Starfield

[Skybird]

Time to board the hype train.:D Septembre 6th.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtXlygBDX4M


I like the narration: "The wonder is not that the field of stars is so vast - but that we have measured it." Thats as good, maybe even better, than the LOTR's famous quote "History became legend, legend became myth."


Maybe this can become what No Man's Sky wanted to be.

[Oubaas]

Yeah, I'll probably give it a try eventually. I expect something like Skyrim in outer space, LOL!

Men of War 2 will be out in September as well.

:Kaleun_Cheers:

[Ostfriese]

It's a Bethesda game. It will be full of bugs at launch, and only modders will make playing the game worthwhile - after about a year or so.

[Skybird]

Oh NO...!
I did not know this: 125GB in size, okay BUT : SSD EXCLUSIVELY... And there Skybird crashlands hard on the ground...
I have a 256 SSD for windows and system, half of which is full, and software, user files, games are all on a 3TB HD.



This really hits me, I waited since over one year for this.


S###

[Skybird]

For all those who are luckier than me:


https://youtu.be/aweaVWjeW1U?si=dbvUoMTS2B2ZWY7s

[Oubaas]

LOL! Besthesda! I find myself playing more and more small indie titles. If a game takes up more than about 30 GB of disc space, I lose interest very quickly.

And SSD only? Ha! I have two big SSDs, but I'm not interested enough in Starfield to give it 125 GB on one of them.

The big studios believe their own hype. And their, "blockbuster" titles are usually underwhelming.

Maybe they should require that developers go to business school and accounting school before learning to program, so they don't make boneheaded decisions like releasing a bloated monster that requires an SSD.

I'll pass. There are plenty of great space titles that don't come with a pain in the ass, for much lower prices.

:Kaleun_Cheers:

[Skybird]

What shpuld I say, I am a Bethesda fanboy and never understood the many criticsms of them. Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 4 and to less degree Fallout 3 were highlights in my gamer biography. I just love these worlds.



Next year inb autumn my rig will be 7 years old, that is the highest age a computer ever has reached in my servioce, 7 years. I will not buy a new one just becasue of the timestamp, but if then it breaks and I need to buy new, it would not be so much a pain as if it broke down after 3 years. And I need to buy a certain beefiness, due to my love for VR whicbh is my travel window to the world. But one day a new rig is on order, and then Starfield will still be there.


But for the time being, this really depressed me today, a bit. I really was in joyful expectation.



Maybe I check whether I can plug in a third drive, and whether steam splits and distributes the steam game folder on HD and SSD as demanded by Starfield.

[Oubaas]

What shpuld I say, I am a Bethesda fanboy and never understood the many criticsms of them. Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 4 and to less degree Fallout 3 were highlights in my gamer biography. I just love these worlds.



Next year inb autumn my rig will be 7 years old, that is the highest age a computer ever has reached in my servioce, 7 years. I will not buy a new one just becasue of the timestamp, but if then it breaks and I need to buy new, it would not be so much a pain as if it broke down after 3 years. And I need to buy a certain beefiness, due to my love for VR whicbh is my travel window to the world. But one day a new rig is on order, and then Starfield will still be there.


But for the time being, this really depressed me today, a bit. I really was in joyful expectation.



Maybe I check whether I can plug in a third drive, and whether steam splits and distributes the steam game folder on HD and SSD as demanded by Starfield.

Well, I hope it works out for you, Skybird. If you've got a slot, adding an SSD is pretty easy and straightforward. And the prices have come down since the early days. I hope that you can find a way to play Starfield.

:Kaleun_Cheers:

[Skybird]

4 TB SSD by Samsung ridiculous 180 coins on German Amazon - did I read this right...??? :o I have really disconnected from the tech train it seems. With that I could migrate my half-filled 3TB HD completely.



I wonder if cloning from HD to SSD via Macrium Reflect is as simple as HD to HD, or knows hidden traps.



So, the last word on this annoying complication is not yet spoken.

[les green01]

wait for the mods to come out don't even know if i will play even then

[Otto Harkaman]

I would get an xbox
https://youtu.be/d9z6Jy2Q-KA?si=xS50UhuV_KcSM4eU

[Skybird]

Ordered a M.2 SSD, 2TB, (PCI 3, system is 6 years old). By factors faster than a SATA SSD. Think I identified where it goe sinto the slot on the mainboard, srews and work to do all should be predictable. Also learned how to tell Steam on installation to ask for the location where to install/store. I currently live by the expectation to be back in business with Starfield.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Also learned how to tell Steam on installation to ask for the location where to install/store.


:up:. All mine are on an external SSD Drive.

[Sniper450]

:up:. All mine are on an external SSD Drive.

Easy peasy

[Skybird]

I did not know the specific details, I have all games on an internal HD and was not sure you could tell steam to have two installation folders simultaneously. I never had a reason to research it.



Possible I move the Flight Simulator files on that SDD, too.

[Oubaas]

Ordered a M.2 SSD, 2TB, (PCI 3, system is 6 years old). By factors faster than a SATA SSD. Think I identified where it goe sinto the slot on the mainboard, srews and work to do all should be predictable. Also learned how to tell Steam on installation to ask for the location where to install/store. I currently live by the expectation to be back in business with Starfield.

Glad to hear you're getting closer to playing the game, Skybird!

Yes, if you have flight sims, racing sims, anything that benefits from smooth, fast motion, put it on the SSD.

Steam has a built-in utility to move installation files to a different drive. Right click on the game title, Properties, Installed Files, Move...

:Kaleun_Cheers:

[Skybird]

Yes, thanks, found it. Howeverm I must not put all on the SSD, it makes sense only for games that use ingam estremasing of any sort, and nthat is not the case with for exmaple racing titles. I do not mind to wait a few seconds for a new track to load or a new level.



Its good to have much free space on an SSD - it lives longer that way, i thnk. I see it with my system pareititon with W10, thats a 256 GB M2.SSD of which almost exactly one half is used. I analysed the sotreage at the beginning of the yera and it said that 4% of the dectors are corrupt. In this case data on an SSD simply moves to an intact sector - as long as there still are some. I expect that the technical situation with SSDs has improved in the past 6 years, still I think SSD has some less endurcance compared to a HD.



I am stunned by how big in size they have become and how cheap. I am stiull used ot the prices six years ago. Think I lost contact to the technological developments, found it difficult to figure out already six years ago when I bought my current rig.

[Skybird]

SSD arrived, will install later this day. Keeping my fingers crossed that the base settings in the BIOS are fine.



And that I have a matching screw to keep that SSD in its slot. Its never the mountains you stumble over, but the very tiny small little things.

[Skybird]

I have a lovely little 2-word message at the bottom of my Steam-app window: "Vorausladen läuft..."

I wonder what they mean! :D

Installation of the SSD went without fault, no BIOS tuning was needed. Telling Steam about the new drive was simple. Man, these things have come a long way since Windows 98SE !

Download size 92 GB.


I probably need to play with very limited graphics options, however, my rig is only slightly above the minimum specs. Demanded is a 1070, I have an 1080TI, they want an i7 6800K, I have an i7 8700K, they want 16 GB RAM, I have 32 GB (ha, take that you tech-drunk Bethesda specs junkeys!). But 15 yerads ago I played Oblivion with mild stuttering before later getting a newer system, and Falcon 4 with frames 14-17, so I'm tough when it comes to that.

[Skybird]

Thorough review, 55 minutes. Good verdict, gbreat game - and the least buggy Bethesda release ever. I think that is becasue Microsoft monitored what they were doing and they needed to comply with standards for console releases, which usually have much less technical issues than PC games.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blQjbbF7HlQ

[Skybird]

Reviews come in. Two meta reviews portlas currently have it both at 87/100.

A pattern emerges already: the game is good, but not that stellar as was hoped and expected. That much opportunity was wasted with the huge universe and this many mostly empty worlds. The hand-crafted worlds are great, the procedurally generated worlds beocme repetitive (which I think is unavoidable). Usually its said if you love Bethesda games you will like this one, too, if you hate Bethesada then dont expect this to be the cure for you.The inventory seems to be unneededly unhandy, the levelling up of skills takes a very lot of time, and you need to really grind very time-intensely for ressources to build your wanted stuff. Well, that was what I already did not like in No man's sky. The procedurally generated worlds are not without borders on their surface, and mostyl are simply empty, maybe offer ressouces. Bethesda said they wanted to depict the universe out there realistically - well, I dont know if this represenation did the game favours.



Quite some people express soemthing nthat could be summarized as that Bethesda maybe bit off slightly more than it could chew. That this does not ruin the game, but prevents it from becoming a real top title.


I have NOT spend 30 coins more just to already play now, thats stupid. So I still need to wait a bit. I usually do not buy even in advance, but this time I expect that on Septembre 6th their servers maybe will collapse. - Or after these reviews not anymore. :)

What they widely admit is that this is a surprisingly bug-free release indeed, the least buggy game Bethesda ever released. The bug when NPCs sink into the ground on some occasions, I expect to be patched soon, since they are so obvious.

The game directly competes with Baldurs Gate III for game of the year title, many assume. And most have Baldur in the lead.

Much hate from PS4 players who cannot play it. LOL Hate also form players coml,aing about wokeness in the game. Oh good, I hope its not as bad as in The Outer World, which I refunded. That title was almost an ideological forced conversion attempt.



I loved Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 4 (F3 not so much). For me it is mandatory that I will try it myself, even if my hopes are not the most enthusiastic.

[Dowly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uuI-6fwwtY

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/--mSrBth6hY?si=XpcjQAdtLsFYs43I

[Otto Harkaman]

I wish it had been released on PS4

[Skybird]

I read good and read bad things about Starfield. In less than20 hours I will come over it. :D My expectations are hopeful, but now muted. However:


[Focus] And they're not the only ones who might be curious: the basic idea of exclusive titles is to encourage the sellers of their own consoles. Sony's PlayStation has repeatedly shown how it's done with titles like the "Uncharted" series or "The Last of Us". Microsoft's selling point has long been the "Halo" series. With "Starfield" you could once again provide a compelling motive for buying a console. Xbox Series X sales are already skyrocketing. Twitter user PeterOvo reports that Microsoft console sales have already increased tenfold as a result of "Starfield". The Xbox Series X has also sold 1,056 percent more on Amazon.

[Platapus]

I was waiting for Todd to say "It just works"


My wife wants this so I will probably get it for her. I would rather wait. Bethesda does not have exactly a stellar reputation for new games and bugs

[Skybird]

Superb weather hinders me to play :) , so I just sank 1 hour into it right now. Introduction, character creation, "leaving the vault" in Fallout, not more.

Looks are nice, my aging system can handle it at medium graphics settings which were defaulted to medium for me, but are not smooth as silk, but I cannot complain, frames so far are okay. Music is also okay, but was recorded in a smaller studio whose smallness you cannot escape to realise. First liftoff into orbit was alienating for me, as the internet already wrote: launching is a menu function, a cut screen and a loading screen that warps you into orbit. Eh - this part I did not like. No immersiveness. The dusty planet surface I just left, the visual style I liked quite much. But as always with Bethesda games, you get injected into the game somewhat slowly.


Cant say much more at this point, only "I'm in". I'm further interested, but not as overwhelmed as I was after the launching stages of Skyrim or Fallout 4.

[Skybird]

Logged another hour or so.

Starship combat. Well, how to put it politely - I am underwhelmed. No cockpit feeling. No real space battle feeling.

Finding the way to another planet system, the game - ctd'ed.

Reloading and then launching again to there, I get animated loading screens. Hovering over the new planet, I initiate landing via a menu, very unimmersive - and get a fixed animation, it seems. No manual landing, just a preset animation. Landed, the game ctd'ed for the second time.

All the time I do not get immersed in what is to be seen, and what happens.

The inventory, I do not like it either. Inventories in Bethesda games often get ciriticised, but I never took care, never used a mod, I used them for what they are, and found them to be okay, i got used to them quickly. This one - I just dont connect.

I loaded the game again, and left the ship, walked on the planet surface, nothing happened, and the game ctd'ed when I got closer to station. Temps are low to moderate, no special effects were displayed, no action took place.

More "underwhelment". I had calmed down expectations after the reviews, but now it looks even - calmer...

Fallout 3 and 4 and Skyrim and Oblivion had me motivated to carry on, they pulled me through, they got me undere their spell, they sucked me in. Nothing of that here. This - its like getting to a house in a cold storm, and ringing, and knocking, and looking through the little window in the door - but the door stays shut.

The ctd's could be something in my system, I have not read anyone having these issues. But even without the crashes I am still very cool-temperatured about the game. I miss the "click" that indicates I linked up to it.

Will try again tomorrow, and with lower settings.

[Skybird]

I had 19 minutes playing time left from the 120 minute trial time you get on Steam.

I played another 10 minutes, without ctd this time but at low graphics, chased some pirates in a station, but it did not connect to me, the whole universe around is not believable, not immersive, there are no surface and no atmosphere vehicles to be used, its all like thin coating on nothing behind it.

Refunded.

Sad, i hoped for more from this, but actually I rate all Bethesda games bettere than this after short of two hours. Somehow this went terribly wrong. It has simply no immersion for me.

I wrote earlier that this game might be what No Man's Sky wanted to be. Actually - its exactly the other way around! :)

File closed.

[Dowly]

I might get it later when it's on sale and once modders have done their thing.

My lack of interest in SF atm can be summed as: SF is more about a destination where as earlier Bethesda games were about the journey to a destination.

The lack of free travel in SF is a huge immersion breaker for me. :down:

[Skybird]

I might get it later when it's on sale and once modders have done their thing.

My lack of interest in SF atm can be summed as: SF is more about a destination where as earlier Bethesda games were about the journey to a destination.

The lack of free travel in SF is a huge immersion breaker for me. :down:
It is. No vehicles on planets and no gliders either. NO MAPS.

[Skybird]

That is hilarious! I jumpoed into No Man's Sky for the firts tiem since - well, since a very long time. Could be two years, if not longer. I know they worked on the game, and that many upgrades were released. But holy moly, I almpost did not recognize it again! Mind you, I play it in VR. Many changes, and finally enemy fighters that really give me a fight for my money - I just dogfought for twenty minutes one single machine, and while I got him, he almost shot me into pieces first. The old savegame sitll worksd, despite the massive upgrades.

I think I will log some more time into this again in coming nights, but must learn some new things and relearn some old things. It seems my fleet can be structured in different ways, and pilots can be assigned - fighter pilots? I could have needed help out there today.

What did Bethesda think to design Starfield without the option to manually fly and drive...? I dont get it. But NMS triumphantly shows that that decision was a very big mistake. It really seems to have matured with dignity.


And then, its VR... I raced my fighter through my 30 capitals ship fleet while dogfighting - in VR... I rest my case.

[Oubaas]

I have every confidence that Bethesda will screw the pooch on the release of, "The Elder Scrolls VI" as well, if it ever comes to fruition and gets released. That will stink on ice. I like Skyrim.

More and more I find myself playing Indie games. The name-brand studios have all lost the thread.

:Kaleun_Cheers:

[Platapus]

I refuse to pay Bethesda to beta test their software.



If it's a Bethesda game, I will wait at least a year

[Skybird]

I have every confidence that Bethesda will screw the pooch on the release of, "The Elder Scrolls VI" as well, if it ever comes to fruition and gets released. That will stink on ice. I like Skyrim.

More and more I find myself playing Indie games. The name-brand studios have all lost the thread.

:Kaleun_Cheers:
TES-VI has started in development with the completion of the development of Starfield. The latter had absolutel priority for them. They plannend that and announced that years ago, and confirmed recently that it is like that, still.

[Platapus]

Well The Frau wanted it for her birthday so I bought it for her.



She has a pretty high powered gaming PC and it struggles. She had to turn most of the graphics down to medium and it still stuttered a bit.


The graphics do look impressive but you better have a very powerful new system to be able to handle the graphics at the higher levels.



And the tutorial is up to Bethesda's usual standards. :nope: