Yet another example of Chinese disrespect for others.

[Jimbuna]

Absolutely disgusting behaviour but in reality, to be expected.

Chinese scavengers have violated the sanctity of the war graves of 840 Royal Navy sailors. Individuals from China illegally extracted remnants of wreckage from the sunken World War 2 ships, HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Repulse which were targeted by Japanese torpedo bombers near the Malaysian coast, a mere two days after the attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941.

These wrecks hold the status of being designated British war grave sites and are meant to be safeguarded.

Photographs obtained by The Sun show the immense dredger named Chuan Hong 68 in the vicinity of the wrecks.

This vessel operates under the Chinese flag and has previously been associated with unauthorized salvage operations.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/fury-as-chinese-scavengers-desecrate-war-graves-of-840-royal-navy-sailors-killed-in-ww2/ar-AA1bFB4X?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=40c01f4fbd344974bd0a27bcb4b9e44e&ei=15

[Reece]

miserable bastards!! :nope:

[Aktungbby]

I read this article yesterday and thought about posting it...but my eyes had grown slitty with rage against the ''yellow peril"!...(with misquote apologies to the late Duke of Edinburgh):O::arrgh!::nope: We should scavenge the Chinese wreck with rare porcelin cargo just found in the South China Sea...:hmmm: and see how they like it in return!??:x:know::Kaleun_Mad:https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/article275659401.html# https://pics.mcclatchyinteractive.com/incoming/xgo65r/picture275663046/alternates/LANDSCAPE_1140/W020230522408685889967.jpg but the problem goes much deeper https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-hack-is-latest-challenge-for-wests-diplomatic-reset-with-beijing-9a7e880d Cybersecurity agencies in the U.S., the U.K., Canada, Australia and New Zealand—an intelligence-sharing group of countries known as the Five Eyes—said a Chinese state-sponsored actor is employing a tactic known as “living off the land,” which involves using built-in network administration tools to gain access to systems. The activity blends in with normal Windows system activities, allowing the actor to evade detection. https://www.wsj.com/articles/house-select-committee-chinese-communist-party-defend-taiwan-volt-typhoon-u-s-military-f037439c The news underscores how vulnerable the U.S. is to cyber attacks and deep virus plants that we may never discover until a conflict erupts. As it happens, that bad news coincides with a list of 10 well-timed bipartisan recommendations that the House Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party adopted this week to preserve “peace and stability in the Taiwan Strait.”

The committee warns that “U.S. critical infrastructure is vulnerable to CCP cyber attacks.” People’s Liberation Army hackers, the report notes, “could target naval and aerial ports of embarkation to slow down our ability to send American forces to the theater, as well as shut down much of our nation’s economic activity.” Sounds like that’s what China is already planning. The report recommends grants for port operators to improve cybersecurity, more testing and other measures to add “resiliency.” Now that British and American submarines are
shifting operations to Brisbane Australia, together withthe adoption of nuclear sub technology by Australia as in WWII to counter Japan's 1940's imperial ambitions, the the Chinese complaint about Western "encirclement and containment" gains merit...the more so as Australia, Japan, the Phillipines, and Guam are carriers Sino-imperialist ambition cannot readily sink. Read some more BS statements from this minister: https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/xwfw_665399/s2510_665401/202305/t20230526_11084484.html For development, China needs the world, and the world needs China. We will continue to foster a market-oriented, law-based and world-class business environment and share China’s market and dividend of openness with companies of all countries. China will never close its door to the world. We are ready to work together with all countries that wish to pursue win-win cooperation with us for global prosperity and common progress. :o:nope::roll::cry:

[Onkel Neal]

Disgusting.

[Jimbuna]

MALAYSIA YOU ROCK! https://i.postimg.cc/VkHk1tC9/headbanger-1.gif (https://postimages.org/)

Malaysia detains Chinese barge on suspicion of looting British warship wrecks
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/malaysia-detains-chinese-barge-on-suspicion-of-looting-british-warship-wrecks/ar-AA1bPPGP?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=7f45f9cf33b347ada9589cdef7325188&ei=11

[Aktungbby]

...not the first time the site has been raided. Malaysian navy intercepted a 2015 Vietnamese treasure hunt operation that had used explosives on the wreckage. The site is a memorial to the 842 sailors killed in the battle.

[Jimbuna]

From #1

These wrecks hold the status of being designated British war grave sites and are meant to be safeguarded.

[d@rk51d3]

From #1

From what I've read, they've been caught pillaging US sites as well in previous years.

[Jimbuna]

From what I've read, they've been caught pillaging US sites as well in previous years.

Nothing would surprise me where the Chinese are concerned.

[Skybird]

Nothing would surprise me where the Chinese are concerned.
Me either. Anacondas dont embrace just to snuggle.

[Commander Wallace]

An interesting development in this disgusting story.



Malaysia detains Chinese ship suspected of looting British WW2 wrecks.

Apparently, Malaysia has detained a Chinese registered vessel suspected of looting two British World War Two shipwrecks. On board the vessel was ammunition from both vessels.


Quote: Old shipwrecks are targeted by scavengers for their rare low-background steel, also known as "pre-war steel". The low radiation in the steel makes it a rare and valuable resource for use in medical and scientific equipment.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/malaysia-detains-chinese-ship-suspected-060804171.html


:Kaleun_Applaud::Kaleun_Applaud:

[August]

Wallace beat me to it! :salute:

[Commander Wallace]

Wallace beat me to it! :salute:


It seems so. I was confident others would hear the news and write of it here. :) I know Jim and others, especially in the U.K, will be thrilled to hear the news of the detained Chinese ship. :yep:

[Reece]

Jim beat you both on post #5. :D

[Commander Wallace]

Jim beat you both on post #5. :D


I don't know how I missed that. :oops: Well, there you go August. Jim beat both of us to " the punch. " :D Jim is right though. MALAYSIA rocks.


Thanks Reece. :salute:

[Gorpet]

Absolutely disgusting behaviour but in reality, to be expected.

I would like to know how much oil and bunker fuel,These sunken ships are leaking into the the worlds oceans ? There are no human remains left after all these years.It"s time for humanity to clean up the ocean floor of these leaking and rusting relics. To call them graves and let them continue to leak oil into the our life giving ocean is a Travesty, We must kill cows cause they fart. Fish do not fart.

[Ostfriese]

The same sort of illegal salvaging has already happened to the wrecks of Allied ships sunk in the battle of the Java Sea.


HMS Jupiter (discovered before 2002, had been scavenged long before as she sank in very shallow water)
HNLMS Java, HNLMS De Ruyter (discovered Dec 2002, both wrecks completely disappeared at some point before 2016)
HNMLS Kortenaer (discovered in Aug 2004, mostly gone by 2017)
HMS Electra (discovered 2003, mostly gone by 2016)
HMS Encounter (discovered 2007, almost completely destroyed by illegal salvaging in 2016)
HMS Exeter (discovered 2007, destroyed by 2016)
USS Pope (discovered 2008, by then already almost destroyed except for a skeleton).

[Aktungbby]

Fish do not fart.That is a damn lie!:arrgh!::shucks::know: https://www.master-divers.com/blog/2016/11/30/do-fishfart/#:~:text=Some%20other%20marine%20fish%20also,of%20 the%20fart'%20to%20communicate. If you consider farting to be the by-product of digestion – in other words gases expelled from the rear end – then most fish don’t fart. However there are two exceptions, the shark and the herring. It is reported that the sand tiger shark purposefully gulps air into its stomach at the surface then farts it out at the other end so it sinks to its desired depth!... Biologists have also linked a mysterious underwater farting sound to the bubbles coming out of a herrings’ rear end. It apparently sounds like a high-pitched raspberry, and biologists now believe it is how the herring communicate to each other in order to keep their shoal together at night and alert other fish of their presence! Lets hope that’s a trend that remains firmly in the fishy world and doesn’t start to catch on above land too! This phenomenon has been named Fast Repetitive Tick and once even sent the Swedish navy scrambling for answers. Top on the hit list of probable causes was a Russian submarine, so discovering it was only herring and not in fact an army of spies came as a relief! The herring are not entirely alone though. Some other marine fish also make quite distinctive gassy sounds. For instance cod/groupers make their swim bladder vibrate to produce a kind of drumming sound, whilst some other fish make noises by belching. But so far it’s only some herring species that seem to use the ‘art of the fart’ to communicate. So while in polite society flatulence is considered a social faux pas, for a herring it is an important social tool! Then too we cannot overlook our own scavenging of Cold War dead russian sailors with the raising of K-129 by the Glomar Explorer by the CIA and Howard Hughes; ie: a double standard is a double standard...even against the "evil empire" as Reagan dubbed it...the more so as there were actually still Russian bodies in the sub when raised.:hmmm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Azorian https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Soviet_ballistic_missile_submarine_K-129.jpg

[August]

Then too we cannot overlook our own scavenging of Cold War dead russian sailors with the raising of K-129 by the Glomar Explorer by the CIA and Howard Hughes; ie: a double standard is a double standard...even against the "evil empire" as Reagan dubbed it...the more so as there were actually still Russian bodies in the sub when raised.:hmmm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Azorian [/SPOILER]


Which were handled with complete respect and were given a proper burial at sea. They even filmed it:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOypyBdVZhU



Not something I expect to see from the ChiComs.

[Aktungbby]

I noted that also; but scavenging is still scavenging: for espianage coups or pre-nuclear steel makes no difference; if your going to have rules about it! A double standard, or the appearance therof, is to be avoided. If we doth protest too much, the "surrounded and contained" world-hegemonic Chinkaderos are sure to bring it up!!:shucks::ping::ping::ping:

[August]

I noted that also; but scavenging is still scavenging: for espianage coups or pre-nuclear steel makes no difference; if your going to have rules about it! A double standard, or the appearance therof, is to be avoided. If we doth protest too much, the "surrounded and contained" world-hegemonic Chinkaderos are sure to bring it up!!:shucks::ping::ping::ping:


To heck with appearances and double standards. I have no problem comparing that one single instance and how it was handled with the many instances of Chinese war grave robbing for profit and how they were and continue to be handled.

[Aktungbby]

To heck with appearances and double standards. I have no problem comparing that one single instance and how it was handled with the many instances of Chinese war grave robbing for profit and how they were and continue to be handled.No wonder yer on my friends list?!:arrgh!: My wife agrees with you...and she's also from Athol, Massachusetts, by way of Boston College...I still think we should counter-scavenge their Ming dynasty? porcelin laden junk-wreck for profit as in my post #3 above!:o

[August]

No wonder yer on my friends list?!:arrgh!: My wife agrees with you...and she's also from Athol, Massachusetts, by way of Boston College...I still think we should counter-scavenge their Ming dynasty? porcelin laden junk-wreck for profit as in my post #3 above!:o


LOL when I first saw that I had the same thought!

[Otto Harkaman]

https://youtu.be/bjbwwrLUZ-o