Massacring animals pointlessly is fun, some apemen think

[Skybird]

Some primitive apemen in the world easily can convince me that the only way to deal with them is to return fire on them. This is sick, these minds must be FUBAR.

https://observers.france24.com/en/middle-east/20230417-lebanon-hunters-migratory-bird-slaughter-biodiversity


Maybe we see a good ending to this and the omni-present violence in the ME finds these apemen and takes them out soon, too.

[Commander Wallace]

Some people aren't happy unless they are hurting or killing something. Having a hobby like building things, playing sports, motorcycles, computer games and simulations etc.... Don't seem to be enough for some people. :nope:

[Skybird]

Shooting down birds indiscriminately with automatic weapons just because they are there, and live. These bums really have had a bang to the head. Something like this really upsets me. I hope one day fate finds them and they get drowned in guano.

[Jimbuna]

Hopefully karma will catch up with them.

[Rockstar]

Reminds me of the unregulated mass extermination of species in the U.S.

Thinking about the duck population on the Chesapeake Bay. A good book to read ‘The Outlaw Gunner’ it’ll give you an idea how many water fowl there once was and the means people invented and used to kill damn near all of them off.

https://oremal.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/35677.jpg

Imagine a punt with THREE barrels like that. It took out hundreds of water fowl in a blink of an eye.

[Aktungbby]

:nope:My particular peeve is the massacre of prairie dogs by target shooters often using elaborate equipment for their murderous pleasure; https://www.redboneoutfitting.com/uploads/photos/Prairie%20dog%20hunt-158.jpghttps://www.jimriverguideservice.com/blog/images/prairie-dog-hunting-1d5a.jpg Hunters kill prairie dogs – a lot of them. These little animals are the victims of blood lust and are killed in horrific ways. They are despised by hunters and cattle ranchers and are exterminated without a thought to their importance to the ecosystem. It is estimated that hunters have killed about 98 percent of all prairie dog species, and that before this they were the most populous mammal species in North America.

While shooting prairie dogs is a source of entertainment for hunters, they have to use other excuses to make it seem like killing the helpless animals is a public service. One hunting website uses these excuses:

1. Hunting decreases the threat of plague (despite the fact that plague is transmitted through flea bites, and that only about 7 cases of plague are discovered in the U.S. each year, and those infections are easily treated with commonly available antibiotics, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention).

2. Hunting provides needed population control (despite being a prey species for coyotes, eagles, bobcats, badgers and other predators who will naturally keep their populations in check).

3. Hunting generates revenue for businesses and the state through the sale of ammo and hunting licenses (at least they are being honest for a change).

Here in New Mexico, prairie dogs are considered “unprotected,” meaning that hunters can lawfully kill as many of them as they want anytime during the year without a hunting license (what was that about hunting seasons being scientifically managed?). If hunting on a state wildlife management area, hunters are restricted to using non-toxic ammo, but on private property they can blast as much lead into the environment as their budget will allow.

Hunting guides make big money sending hunters to areas where prairie dog towns are known to exist, and guides can charge $350 or more per day per hunter for a hunting trip https://abolishsporthunting.org/journals/prairie-dog-hunting-the-unnecessary-cruelty/ Killing feral pigs that are Spanish conquistador nonindiginous escaped animals is one thing; as with Neal's ranch: causing damge to land and numbering in the millions; but slaughtering indiginous praire dogs that are part of the prairie ecosystem for unregulated sport is horrible. https://earthbuddies.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/rodents-4179187_1280.jpg The dead animals are left uncollected.

[MaDef]

Where I grew up, prairie dogs were/are considered pests, and were eradicated when they would encroach into the hay fields. As long as they stayed out of the hay and other crops we left them alone, same with the coyotes and a few other species.

[Skybird]

Prairie dogs are ground squirrels. :arrgh!: If only there would be the option, I would provide the animals the ability to return fire. At overkill rates.


Honestly, I think when people say they kill for sports I think they have some serious issues. Kill by existential need is one thing. Taking joy from it, is sick, shows some kind of brutalization that somehow hints at a depraved soul. Taking life never should feel entertaining, or careless.

And certainly you should not feel triumph or enjoyment.

I can imagine I would enjoy the thrill of stalk-hunting. But I would not shoot to kill, but shoot a photo instead. Its completely enough for my male ego and my satisfaction from the deed to have that photo as evidence that I succeeded in the hunt and could have claimed the trophy. I just do not need nor wish to kill if I do not want to eat it (or protect myself or others from a dangerous animal).

I played against other players some games - but I never felt the need to physically kill them during or after the match.

[MaDef]

Said by someone who didn't grow up hunting.

[Skybird]

And so what...? I killed a straying dog once, in egypt. But that did not give me the taste for it either.
Note I talk of killing as a sport and entertainment. Turning the act into a business about killing, or trophy collecting, is where I draw the red line.
Also note I am a meat eater. ;) Not every day, and not in big quantities, but regularly.

[MaDef]

Note I talk of killing as a sport and entertainment. That's different, I don't hunt for those reasons. For me, it's either a hobby or a chore, Depending on what I'm hunting and why.

[Commander Wallace]

I have a quick story that may be amusing for some. For some, it may be pathetic.

We have a ground hog that is systematically undermining an outside shed. The shed houses lawn things like a wooden wishing well and windmill. They are heavy and a royal pain to pull out. The shed also houses lawn equipment and the like.

One day, I decided to shoot the ground hog after fixing the damage it had caused.. The weapon I was using was a target model .22 automatic. The groundhog was no more than ten feet away. It was an easy kill. He was sitting there eating his dinner.

I didn't pull the trigger on him. My lady told me later she didn't want me to shoot him anyhow. She asked why I didn't shoot him and I said, I didn't want to ruin his dinner. :haha: If the groundhog had a weapon and was trying to hurt me, I would have emptied the clip on him. Shrugs.

I told her I would instead trap him and release him in the wild, not far from us..

[Skybird]

:Kaleun_Applaud:
I understand that pest control and controlling animal threats can command use of force. But too easily we call something a pest, because it simply is the most convenient way to go for us, easy and comfortable. What I ask for is some more sensibility for the beauty of life.



The original popst was about brutalized barbars using automatic weapons to massacre birds they do not even eat, just for the joy of killing somehtig n that is alive. And that is sick. whole singing bird hunting (with nets) is idiotic, imo. have you ever seen a larch prepared for dinner? Two or three teaspoons of meat you get form it. In the Mediterranean the catch bords opf even much smaller size, just for one tiny bite of meat as their damn forefathers did.



Killing should never be done for trophies, records, or "enjoyment".



Because man believes that animals do not feel anything, animals must feel that man does not think.

[MaDef]

Those people aren't hunters, they are poachers.

[Jimbuna]

I have a quick story that may be amusing for some. For some, it may be pathetic.

We have a ground hog that is systematically undermining an outside shed. The shed houses lawn things like a wooden wishing well and windmill. They are heavy and a royal pain to pull out. The shed also houses lawn equipment and the like.

One day, I decided to shoot the ground hog after fixing the damage it had caused.. The weapon I was using was a target model .22 automatic. The groundhog was no more than ten feet away. It was an easy kill. He was sitting there eating his dinner.

I didn't pull the trigger on him. My lady told me later she didn't want me to shoot him anyhow. She asked why I didn't shoot him and I said, I didn't want to ruin his dinner. :haha: If the groundhog had a weapon and was trying to hurt me, I would have emptied the clip on him. Shrugs.

I told her I would instead trap him and release him in the wild, not far from us..

Top Man CW :up:

[Reece]

Prairie dogs are ground squirrels. :arrgh!: If only there would be the option, I would provide the animals the ability to return fire. At overkill rates.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eg0pV-mJkTs/T4_dn5OoXBI/AAAAAAAACzk/o_fJKTBbBto/s1600/funny-animal-06.jpg

[mapuc]

Aren't we being a tad double moralist here-Us who point fingers at those who shoot animal for fun.

Do to our huge meat and chicken consumption the slaughter has become an industry and the animal is treated in most cases badly during the grow up-Before slaughter.

Hey! Why should we care -We enter the meal section in our store and pick a package or two of our preferred meat and pay for it...not giving the animal any thought-What we don't see do not make us feel guilty.

Had to put it down in words...My opinion on this matter.

Markus

[Skybird]

You are absolutely right, Markus, and thats one of the reasons why I buy meat less often than in past times, and spend more money for better husbandry and would do so also for more humane slaughtering methods. However, that price raise has its limits, beyond which it is for many, and so for me, no more affordable. Also, supermarkest see the reaction I just describe at first hand, and tailor their offers according to customer request - or customer denial. We know for example that food quality and organic food has decreased on people'S lost of priorities sionce inflation exploded.



I had a farner for many years in reach who held his cattle organically, and had the alloweance - rare in germany - to slaughter by so-called pasture shot. That license was revoked by German authoreities, and also, the demand declined, he had to give it all up. The meat costed 2.5 as much as that from the supermarket. That also was my absolute limit.


Simple truth is that so huge mass societies as we now maintain can not be fed by organic farming and organic cattle holding alone. That is the big green illusion.

Personally, I still put some focus on getting fish and meat regularly, for health reasons. It must not be in huge volumes, and not every day, but regularly nevertheless.

And finally, my holiness knows limits :) - beyond which i give in to taste, appetite and wanting to culinarically sin.

I also live by the rule that who eats meat must be willing, by mental attitude I mean, to also kill by his own hand and do the bloody work afterwards, if need be. If you say you would never do that yourself, then you should not eat meat, fish.