Lying

[mapuc]

We have all lied in our lifetime..However this thread is not so much about us grown-up and our lies we have told our parents, friends and so on I wanna share an interesting observation I made some decades ago.

We shall go back to the end of the 90s and the story about a little girl age 3½-4 years old.

We were very good friend with this family mom-dad-Elder brother and this little girl.

Since they both had a job I was babysitting them a lot. So I so to say followed her from she was a tiny baby to a little girl with fire in her behind-There was always speed in her legs.

It was Summer My friend and I was working in the garden behind the house-After some hours he said-A beer should be fine right now..Coffee for me I said.
Went round the corner of the house when we saw his little girl all yellow around the mouth and on her fingers and on her clothes.
He called on his wife asking what she was doing and why she hadn't been watching what their daughter had done.
My friend toke on a serious face looked at her at said with a hard voice
- Have you been eating these flowers-he pointed at some yellow flower they had in front of the house.

Until now she had only denied when she had done something wrong by saying no I haven't -Except this time she did something which made me go hmmm where did she learn this.
What she did or more correctly said was.
While shaking her head from left to right-ah ah it wasn't me it was and then she pointed at her elder brother...it was him

I was bitting my lips to prevent laughing. Here you have a little girl 3½-4 years old all yellow and still try to escape by "move" the guilt to her elder brother.

In the evening I had a talk with them- Here I asked if she had done this before moved, her guilt to others like his brother..they said no.

Either have I and I have been babysitting her a lot.

My thoughts

Is it something we have in our genes ?
Is it something we learn from others ? -Even small cups has ears
When are we old enough to understand the meaning of lying ?

Markus

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFXWeCMU5sA


Any more questions...? :D

[mapuc]

Thank you-so it's embedded in our genes.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFXWeCMU5sA


Any more questions...? :D

Not from me, my past career put me in contact with more liars than I care to remember :)

[Commander Wallace]

Not from me, my past career put me in contact with more liars than I care to remember :)


I'm sure with that being said, you know when the Russians are lying. Their lips are moving. :03:


I had said that before.

[Jimbuna]

I'm sure with that being said, you know when the Russians are lying. Their lips are moving. :03:


I had said that before.

I also say that of politicians :)

[Commander Wallace]

I also say that of politicians :)


Wow. I completely forgot about them. :haha:

[Jimbuna]

Wow. I completely forgot about them. :haha:

Now that is a lie....I can see your lips moving :03:

[Commander Wallace]

Now that is a lie....I can see your lips moving :03:


Laughs. :haha:

[mapuc]

Can you put liars into category ?

I say you can. Those Jim has met hav used denial lies.
Where little kids use what I would call innocent denial.

Then we have bragging lies-Here I'm thinking on a young man who tries to make him interesting for the girl he like.

Which category our Politicians and their lies come under I don't know

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Untrustworthy

[Commander Wallace]

Untrustworthy


The terms pathological, maniacal and self serving spring to mind in describing politicians.

[Jimbuna]

The terms pathological, maniacal and self serving spring to mind in describing politicians.

Too true :yep:

[les green01]

you don't have to lie if you don't get caught

[Eichhörnchen]

I've told this true story on here already I'm sure, but years ago so anyway...

A friend visited me once and said that a pal of his was sitting in his lounge watching sport on TV recently when he experienced a sudden searing pain, an agonizing concussion and a blinding haze of light - his head almost parted company from his body and he nearly passed out

He looked around and saw his small son standing in the corner holding a hammer

"It wasn't me, Dad" he said

My mate had tears rolling down his face as he told me this story but heck - what was that kid going to turn out like?

[Skybird]

He looked around and saw his small son standing in the corner holding a hammer
"It wasn't me, Dad" he said
My mate had tears rolling down his face as he told me this story but heck - what was that kid going to turn out like?


Fathers and sons: endless stories of endlessly complicated relationships. Bringing peace to the Middle East seems a solvable task by comparison.

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[Platapus]

People lie because it gives them a response that fulfills a short term need/desire.


As we mature, we learn that while lying may work at first, in the long term it is not to our advantage.


Less mature people never learn that


There are some people who are consistently rewarded when they lie -- politicians for example. They lie and they get people to vote for them. Why would they ever change?



Normal people change because we learn that lying often does NOT reward us.


To some extent, children lie when they see that their parents lie and get away with it.

[mapuc]

Came to think of a serious case of lying-Which cost a person his company-Car repair. He gave a very good friend a falske alibi-Saying he had been with him all Saturday evening so it could not have been him who had hit a little girl on her bike.
When the police found 110 % waterprof evidence against this friend-No one wanted anything to do with this liar.

Back to this little 3½-4 years girl. She may have told a lie or two to her parents. But it was the first time she tried to "send" the guilt to her brother.

And this was an interesting observation.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

I don't smoke, I don't drink, I don't do drugs.

I only have one small problem, I lie.

[Skybird]

I don't smoke, I don't drink, I don't do drugs.

I only have one small problem, I lie.
I'm brilliant, I'm sexy, and I am stinking rich.
And different to you I have no problem with lying.

:O:

[Jimbuna]

Any fool can tell the truth, but it requires a man of some sense to know how to lie well.

[Aktungbby]

the biggest lie of all: Sunday school: "be good or you won't get into heaven, the 'happy hunting ground'; or be accorded the charms of '72 virgins in Paradise'??"...which is a great convenience as I cannot count that high any way! I'm holding out for Hades or eternal meading in Valhalla! it:hmmm:

[em2nought]

One Christmas my dog ate a caramel out of my Wittman's Sampler, she did her very best to look innocently at me as she continued chewing the caramel in her mouth. Dogs lie too. :D