Reality Doesn’t Exist Until You Observe It

[mapuc]

Quantum Pseudo-Telepathy Experiment Suggests Reality Doesn’t Exist Until You Observe It
Using quantum entangled particles, scientists have managed to overcome the limits of probability to win a theoretical game more times than should be possible.

The idea that physical objects can exist in multiple states simultaneously is known as wave-particle duality and is demonstrated by the famous double slit experiment. Using this iconic set-up, scientists have established that photons (light particles) spread out through space like a wave when no one is watching, but “collapse” to a single fixed point the moment they are observed.

https://www.iflscience.com/quantum-pseudo-telepathy-experiment-suggests-reality-doesnt-exist-until-you-observe-it-64539

I tried to translate it into plain English, to get a grip without any success

Markus

[Aktungbby]

This all translates loosely to: with the Hubble and Webb space telescopes(with their respective faults-mirror anomalies; meteor hits etc.) the universe simply doesn't exist w/o pics!?? :Kaleun_Periskop::Kaleun_Binocular::()1: :Kaleun_Party:

[Skybird]

It means this: as long as you do not feel being slapped into your face by me, you haven't gotten slapped into your face by me. :D
:Kaleun_Cheers:
Now, shall we? Who's first? :Kaleun_Wink:

[Buddahaid]

Reality always comes into sharp focus when my alarm goes off in the morning......

[Platapus]

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/97/fa/9b/97fa9bf02d1c35052f78d6d30830e5b5.jpg

[Rockstar]

Don’t let the title fool ya. If you have the time, she has a good video is nuclear power green.

https://youtu.be/Wsjgtp9XZxo

[mapuc]

There are those, including scientist who is fully convince that Matrix is more real than we think.. Meaning our perception of reality is made of dots.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/zvJFTDqs/crazy-2.gif (https://postimages.org/)

[Redshock]

It means this: as long as you do not feel being slapped into your face by me, you haven't gotten slapped into your face by me. :D
:Kaleun_Cheers:
Now, shall we? Who's first? :Kaleun_Wink:

https://i.postimg.cc/zvJFTDqs/crazy-2.gif (https://postimages.org/)
Why do people judge without understanding?
There is a real experiment where the particles of a photon behave absolutely differently depending on whether there is an observer or not. How do you explain it? I am not saying that there is no other explanation for this. But at the moment there is no other explanation other than that we live in a simulation. And this is more real than it seems, sooner or later on the scale of the game we will be able to come up with artificial intelligence that will think that it is alive. So where are the guarantees that we are not that artificial intelligence? Many scientists talk about this, because we have been using the principle of changing physics from the presence of an observer for a long time. And then we saw it in real life

[Aktungbby]

Redshock!:Kaleun_Salute:Assuming you're real??!:arrgh!: There are those, including scientist who is fully convince that Matrix is more real than we think.. Meaning our perception of reality is made of dots.

Markus Especially thru the front Corolla windshield:yep: :ohttps://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/1f9NRz2mbGBVUxdomvfUUQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTEyMDA7aD04MDA-/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/qYXr7dI4BznFMv72vYryyw--~B/aD0xMjAwO3c9MTgwMDthcHBpZD15dGFjaHlvbg--/https://media.zenfs.com/en/travel.travelleisure.com/043d3277750c7cacb5688b83e5a306b5

[Rockstar]

There are those, including scientist who is fully convince that Matrix is more real than we think.. Meaning our perception of reality is made of dots.

Markus

Like Ben-day dots in a comic book. :D

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/46/27/e9/4627e9930253e8a0198bd3b7f5bc42ac.png

[mapuc]

Why do people judge without understanding?
There is a real experiment where the particles of a photon behave absolutely differently depending on whether there is an observer or not. How do you explain it? I am not saying that there is no other explanation for this. But at the moment there is no other explanation other than that we live in a simulation. And this is more real than it seems, sooner or later on the scale of the game we will be able to come up with artificial intelligence that will think that it is alive. So where are the guarantees that we are not that artificial intelligence? Many scientists talk about this, because we have been using the principle of changing physics from the presence of an observer for a long time. And then we saw it in real life

Thank you for your answer I read it with huge interest.

It also made me recall some episode of Through the Wormhole W. M.F

I should also welcome you.

Markus

[Skybird]

There are those, including scientist who is fully convince that Matrix is more real than we think.. Meaning our perception of reality is made of dots.

We perceive "reality" not itself, "reality" by term and concept is only an abstraction. We realise however the results of the electric storm in our brains. The brain "interprets" the stimuli form our senses as "reality", but we cnanot say whether or nnto all people's brains tick the same way. We cannot say whether we share each other's "reality".

All we could say about "reality", necessarily is wrong. The more exactly we aim at it, the more precisely we miss it. For scientists, this is hard. :D

In principle, we are not static or separate beings, but processes of becoming aware of something.

What is it that perceives? Who is it who watches, listens, feels?

Who is it who is aware of the watcher?

The inner space, the outer space, the space between subatomic particles, the space between suns, galaxies, clusters of galaxies, the space between superclusters of clusters- its not several different spaces, its all just one empty space.

Or in the words of the Buddhist Heart Sutra: "Form is Emptiness, Emptiness is Form".

There is only one relevant question, but the question is already the answer to everything: "Why is not just Nothing?"

Das Wesen, das begriffen werden kann,
ist nicht das Wesen des Unbegreiflichen.
Die Vorstellung, die gedacht werden kann,
ist nicht das Abbild des Ewigen.
Namenlos ist das Eine, ist inneres Wesen.
Mit Namen benannt ist ist die Vielheit, ist äußere Form.
Begehrdenlos lassen heißt das geheime Innere erfahren.
Begehrdenvoll tun heißt dem begrenzten Äußeren verfallen.
Eines und Vieles sind gleichen Ursprungs,
Ungleich nur in der Erscheinung und im Namen.
Ihr Gemeinsames ist das Wunder,
Das Geheimnis dieses Wunders
Ist das Tor allen Verständnisses.
TaoTeKing, I

The Being that can be comprehended, / is not the essence of the incomprehensible. / The conception that can be thought, / is not the image of the Eternal. / Nameless is the One, is inner being. / Named is the multiplicity, is outer form. / To let desirelessly, is to experience the secret inside. / To do with desires is to fall prey to the limited exterior. / The One and the Many are of the same origin, / Unequal only in appearance and in name. / Their common is the miracle, / The secret of this miracle / Is the gate to all understanding.

[mapuc]

Let me add something to the discussion

Nothingness can't and have never existed..There has always been something.

Markus

[Platapus]

I asked Werner Heisenberg what he thought about this.


He was not sure.

[Skybird]

I asked Werner Heisenberg what he thought about this.

He was not sure.
He should really learn to think out of the box.
Are you sure you asked him?

[Skybird]

Let me add something to the discussion

Nothingness can't and have never existed..There has always been something.

Markus
Ruht ein Tal wie das Nichts zwischen Bergen,
ruht in der Leere des Wesens das Sein.
TaoTeKing VI

[mapuc]

Reality is more real than what these scientists claim. Are you a physiologically person or do you only exist in cyberspace.. You will of course see yourself as a real person

I think therefore I am, but am I a real physical person? To me I am real, seen through your eyes I may be a ghost that exists only in cyberspace

I say they are wrong-Reality is there even when you can't see it. The forrest you use to bicycle through is there-Even if your not there for the moment.

A tree falls with vibration when it hit the soil...these vibration become sound when they hit peoples ear. Same with reality it's there even if you can't see it. the reality will become clear when you see it.

Markus

[Skybird]

Things are not as they seem to be. You perceive in the way your sense are designed, and if you had other senses, the same place you are in would be perceived very differently by you. Ask a bat. A dolphin. A snail.


Even your perception changes, according to changing priorities of your motivation. You have no eyes for the beautiful girls at a party if you spent the past 36 hours crawling on all four through a desert. All you see, and that immediately, is the bar.



You do not perceive an ultimate reality with your senses. By your senses you only get aware of your INTERPRETATION of stimuli. You do not discover reality - you invent it.



Meditation can help to realise this. But in the end, any enlightenment always is sudden, and complete. All, or nothing at all. Nothing is to be gained. Nothing ever was lost.


Logical thinking will not help you. In Zen, they have this koan: look, this cow is going through the neddles eyd, almost. The head, the horn, the front legs are through, the body, the back legs and the bottom, it all went through the needles eye. But why is it that the tail does not fit through?


You want to know what ks behind the veil of Maya? Lose all your words, let go control of your logical thinking, and then let go even the letting go. Let go all that you think is yourself, forget it, overlook it. Only when your ego is silent and gone, the soul can hear the voice of reality.



Thats the meaning of the story of Jesus chasing the traders and money changers out of the temple. The temple is the soul, and when foreigners are in it who pollute it with noise, it cannot hear and listen.



Throw away the names and words and concepts. Mind is clear and bright and transparent by its essence, it needs not these crooks to bee what it is. Free yourself from everything (Huang-Po).

[ET2SN]

So, here's a thought experiment you may enjoy:

I visit a wooded area near the old home where I grew up. I haven't been there for many years but I remember the path through the woods where I used to run as a child.

Just to have fun, I start running down the path again and run smack into a tree. A very large tree. :doh:

How did it get there? :hmmm: If I create my own reality, why would I wish to get a bruise from a tree that I created? Or, did the tree grow during the years when I was away?

Speaking of Fusion :D , commercial cold fusion would solve the planet's energy concerns overnight. If every conscious entity wants a dependable source of clean and safe energy, why haven't we willed cold fusion into existence yet?

[Platapus]

Cogito ergo sum, cogito?

[Rockstar]

So, here's a thought experiment you may enjoy:

I visit a wooded area near the old home where I grew up. I haven't been there for many years but I remember the path through the woods where I used to run as a child.

Just to have fun, I start running down the path again and run smack into a tree. A very large tree. :doh:

How did it get there? :hmmm: If I create my own reality, why would I wish to get a bruise from a tree that I created? Or, did the tree grow during the years when I was away?

Speaking of Fusion :D , commercial cold fusion would solve the planet's energy concerns overnight. If every conscious entity wants a dependable source of clean and safe energy, why haven't we willed cold fusion into existence yet?


If ran into the tree it was because you weren’t looking where you were going. Remember you’re not the only observer in this universe.

[mapuc]

So, here's a thought experiment you may enjoy:

I visit a wooded area near the old home where I grew up. I haven't been there for many years but I remember the path through the woods where I used to run as a child.

Just to have fun, I start running down the path again and run smack into a tree. A very large tree. :doh:

How did it get there? :hmmm: If I create my own reality, why would I wish to get a bruise from a tree that I created? Or, did the tree grow during the years when I was away?

Speaking of Fusion :D , commercial cold fusion would solve the planet's energy concerns overnight. If every conscious entity wants a dependable source of clean and safe energy, why haven't we willed cold fusion into existence yet?

Altered memory. It could very well be so that your memory have changed throughout the years, so the path you ran as adult wasn't the one you ran as kid.
Then there are tree types who grow big fast Meaning you could have remembered correctly.

Markus