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The next time the Americans and their Allies want to Poke their noises into other countries Culture and way of life. If they can resist what you see is
what will happen to All of NATO and it's Allies .So If the Americans think their tanks or so much better, Let's see one on the battle field. And the heroic crew that will roll it into battle after seeing what happens to their opponent's. One thing is certain if Russia wins or draws back they will take the gloves off. They have to survive as a Country and a Culture. Something America and Britain and their children know nothing about or have forgotten.
As a people, If it wasn't, for the best of mind's and those who where our everyday neighbors who had to risk everything To win, Do you think a Russian Patriot is any different? America has now put over 40 billion dollars into this war. I want to know what your countries are putting into the pot. Please list what your country in dollars are investing and what do you as an everyday taxpayer expects to get out of this new war ?
Oh by the way Joe do U know, North Korea is shooting missiles into the Sea of Japan. And where is Americas Vice President? The World hasn't seen or heard a word from Americas next Castrophe.
This New world Order will have to kill by any means 3/4 of this planets population to save the Planet. And i don't know who will pick the apples maybe apples will be, Erased
Skybird
05-15-22, 04:27 AM
Only stupids would fight in the way their enemy wants them to.
The lessons of afghanistan and iraq have been learned. No nation building again any time soon. No appetite for it in the american and european public.
American TANKS ARe better than Russian tanks. And that is to be said about a lot of equipment. Tactics. Logistics. Leadership of troops. Thats the lesson of Ukraine- that the Russians have artillery, which was known, but else they are not half as good as they thought of themselves. Not even that.
Rockstar
05-15-22, 06:32 AM
.So If the Americans think their tanks or so much better, Let's see one on the battle field. And the heroic crew that will roll it into battle after seeing what happens to their opponent's.
Battle of 73 Easting. Iraq lost 3,300 tanks we lost 31. It was kind of a big thing, I’m surprised you missed it. :)
One thing is certain if Russia wins or draws back they will take the gloves off. They have to survive as a Country and a Culture. Something America and Britain and their children know nothing about or have forgotten.
Survive as a country? The only problem is no country in this world has any intention to attack Russia, destroy its culture or borders, absolutely nobody. What we’re are seeing in Putin is the act of a desperate man who actually thinks there is an existential threat to Russia when none exists. It’s Putin duping the Russian people into thinking he’s some kind of savior protecting them against the boogie man and believing the collapse of the Soviet Union was a humiliation that must be avenged.
They already has and they will be there in future to come.
Here I'm thinking on American soldiers in Poland, Romania and other Eastern countries.
Markus
Skybird
05-15-22, 10:02 AM
Survive as a country? The only problem is no country in this world has any intention to attack Russia, destroy its culture or borders, absolutely nobody. What we’re are seeing in Putin is the act of a desperate man who actually thinks there is an existential threat to Russia when none exists. It’s Putin duping the Russian people into thinking he’s some kind of savior protecting them against the boogie man and believing the collapse of the Soviet Union was a humiliation that must be avenged.
Its genetic. Russians get born as paranoids and fatalists. :O:
Its also about cognitive dissonance. If you start to beat up the other to plunder from him what you want form him, you must make yourself believe that he deserves it, else you get a problem with your self-perception of being the good guy. The more brutal you hit him, the meanier you try to demonise him. Lavrov is a reapeated offender of doing so. Or should I say: repeated patient?
In my opinion they all belong in the loony bin.
Jimbuna
05-15-22, 12:03 PM
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Survive as a country? The only problem is no country in this world has any intention to attack Russia, destroy its culture or borders, absolutely nobody. What we’re are seeing in Putin is the act of a desperate man who actually thinks there is an existential threat to Russia when none exists. It’s Putin duping the Russian people into thinking he’s some kind of savior protecting them against the boogie man and believing the collapse of the Soviet Union was a humiliation that must be avenged.
Pretty much sums it up for me as well :yep:
Platapus
05-15-22, 12:04 PM
And where is Americas Vice President?
And just what do you think the VP should be doing?
Skybird
05-15-22, 12:21 PM
^ After the Europeans' throw at "feminist foreign policy", maybe conducting feminist warfare, I suppose? :D
Catfish
05-15-22, 01:26 PM
^ i take it this is and the woke "movement" is why Putin attacked :D
Will we ever put troops in another country again?
Does a bear s#!t in the woods? I mean, c'mon ... it's what we do. Well, unless Trump is president. Honestly, I think the only reason Biden hasn't sent our troops somewhere is because he simply forgot to do it. :doh:
em2nought
05-15-22, 11:43 PM
Will we ever put troops in another country again?
Next time they'll all be wearing high-heel combat boots. :D
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Battle of 73 Easting. Iraq lost 3,300 tanks we lost 31. It was kind of a big thing, I’m surprised you missed it. :)
Survive as a country? The only problem is no country in this world has any intention to attack Russia, destroy its culture or borders, absolutely nobody. What we’re are seeing in Putin is the act of a desperate man who actually thinks there is an existential threat to Russia when none exists. It’s Putin duping the Russian people into thinking he’s some kind of savior protecting them against the boogie man and believing the collapse of the Soviet Union was a humiliation that must be avenged.
Well, Do you think American Tanks could survive the same weapons today? I don't care where you put the reloads in the tank. It's clear the tank will be best used in your own country against who ever the government see's fit to deploy Unfortunately American citizens will not have the access to drone's.
And you think Putin is a problem? Do you think the people of Russia is a problem? How do you know that NATO and the west is not a threat to them? Just because a bunch of Global life long Politicians say so? Europe seemed to be doing good before the Covid....And then All Government's across the World
have shown their selves to be worthless.
And just what do you think the VP should be doing?
We here in America can't find the VP. We can only assume she is in a bunker in Cheyenne Mountain waiting.
Next time they'll all be wearing high-heel combat boots. :D
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And General Milley's Rainbow Warriors can't wait to get at those Russian soldiers. They will turn them on the battle field.
Will we ever put troops in another country again?
Does a bear s#!t in the woods? I mean, c'mon ... it's what we do. Well, unless Trump is president. Honestly, I think the only reason Biden hasn't sent our troops somewhere is because he simply forgot to do it. :doh:
Well you see what NATO weapons are doing to Russian troops. NATO has taken the gloves off. Karma is what it is. And in the future NATO troops will receive it back in kind. It will not matter who the **** is President of the United States or the worthless United Nations. There is still One Communist Country that all countries rely upon. Just because they appear to be the underdog and they love you and want to huge you. Play DayZ
Only stupids would fight in the way their enemy wants them to.
The lessons of afghanistan and iraq have been learned. No nation building again any time soon. No appetite for it in the american and european public.
American TANKS ARe better than Russian tanks. And that is to be said about a lot of equipment. Tactics. Logistics. Leadership of troops. Thats the lesson of Ukraine- that the Russians have artillery, which was known, but else they are not half as good as they thought of themselves. Not even that.
The Ukraine's can thank what ever god they believe in for Joe Biden and the Democrat Party of the United States. Cause the American people could give a rat's ass about a problem what should be handled amongst Europeans. This war is not in the interest or the security of the United States and we have not a damn bit of business being there at all. It was a problem for the EU and your countries to work out. You seemed to be getting along until a business man in our country stood up and said wait a minute. And from that day forth the world has went into chaos
And by the way no member on here whose country that belongs to NATO has posted how many Dollars their country is putting into the fight.I don't want to know about helmets, bandages uniforms and bullets. I want to know how much viable money your country and your leaders are putting into this war on your behalf.Hell The Democrat's just thru another 40 billion in. And mothers in this country can't find similac , It is being passed thru word of mouth and on media , We are tribal find a tit in your neighborhood .The war must go on.
Skybird
05-19-22, 04:38 AM
I and many others feel gifted and thankful that Americans back in the fourties did not tick like you.
I and many others feel gifted and thankful that Americans back in the forties did not tick like you.Actually they did, it was the Japanese attack on Dec 7th, 1941 that allowed Roosevelt to officially enter the war in Europe without a lot of blowback from the citizens.
Actually they did, it was the Japanese attack on Dec 7th, 1941 that allowed Roosevelt to officially enter the war in Europe without a lot of blowback from the citizens.
That and Germanys declaration of war against us (for declaring war on their ally Japan) just days later on the 11th of December.
Skybird
05-19-22, 08:35 AM
Actually they did, it was the Japanese attack on Dec 7th, 1941 that allowed Roosevelt to officially enter the war in Europe without a lot of blowback from the citizens.
Weren't your ancestors engaged in lend and lease already before? :03: Early 1941, I seem to recall. And that is what the US action over Ukraine today compares to. Not declaring war, but lend and lease. You even have revoked or mull to revoke the law from back then. I forgot the details but you certainly know what I mean, its in the news since a few weeks.
Buddahaid
05-19-22, 08:37 AM
The Ukraine's can thank what ever god they believe in for Joe Biden and the Democrat Party of the United States. Cause the American people could give a rat's ass about a problem what should be handled amongst Europeans. This war is not in the interest or the security of the United States and we have not a damn bit of business being there at all. It was a problem for the EU and your countries to work out. You seemed to be getting along until a business man in our country stood up and said wait a minute. And from that day forth the world has went into chaos
And by the way no member on here whose country that belongs to NATO has posted how many Dollars their country is putting into the fight.I don't want to know about helmets, bandages uniforms and bullets. I want to know how much viable money your country and your leaders are putting into this war on your behalf.Hell The Democrat's just thru another 40 billion in. And mothers in this country can't find similac , It is being passed thru word of mouth and on media , We are tribal find a tit in your neighborhood .The war must go on.
As if otherwise there would have no impact in the US under Trump's brand of swamp inbreeding.
As if otherwise there would have no impact in the US under Trump's brand of swamp inbreeding.
"Swamp inbreeding" That's an interesting term to apply to (attempted) swamp buster Trump. Care to expound on this idea?
Weren't your ancestors engaged in lend and lease already before? :03: Early 1941, I seem to recall. And that is what the US action over Ukraine today compares to. Not declaring war, but lend and lease. You even have revoked or mull to revoke the law from back then. I forgot the details but you certainly know what I mean, its in the news since a few weeks.
They were, but only for the 8-9 month period prior to declaring war. However in reality it was Roosevelt's end run around the neutrality acts of the late 30's to further advance his foreign policy goals. Fast forward to today, we have another European conflict and a U.S President wanting to remain relevant on the world stage. Face it (NATO) Europe/U.S. is a day late & a dollar short in this "crisis". The time to stop Putin in his tracks with minimum fallout was in Feb 2014.
Jimbuna
05-19-22, 01:45 PM
They were, but only for the 8-9 month period prior to declaring war. However in reality it was Roosevelt's end run around the neutrality acts of the late 30's to further advance his foreign policy goals. Fast forward to today, we have another European conflict and a U.S President wanting to remain relevant on the world stage. Face it (NATO) Europe/U.S. is a day late & a dollar short in this "crisis". The time to stop Putin in his tracks with minimum fallout was in Feb 2014.
Yep, a golden opportunity certainly went begging there :yep:
Skybird
05-19-22, 02:27 PM
The time to stop Putin in his tracks with minimum fallout was in Feb 2014.
No, February 2008. If not even 1996ff.
But back then we still fell for Putin's lies. Me too, I shamefully admit. Mea culpa. At least I am teachable.
The relevant question for Europe is what are you willing to do to stop Putin now? I think Europe going to continue giving token material to Ukraine hoping to bleed Russia enough so that they'll be less of a threat for the next few years without having to actually do anything of substance.
Understanding that Russia still has a shirtload of nukes and that nukes don't require training or morale might go a long way in understanding that pushing this too far is possibly a really bad thing.
Buddahaid
05-19-22, 10:35 PM
Tell that to Putin.
Buddahaid
05-19-22, 10:45 PM
"Swamp inbreeding" That's an interesting term to apply to (attempted) swamp buster Trump. Care to expound on this idea?
Damn, I know I should leave this alone. Trump's attempt to drain the swamp was/is nothing more than an effort to rebrand with you know you on top. Sure he's a businessman, so what? The government is not a business where the board can make policy alone so that won't work, and if it does, it's fascism.
The swamp inbreeding quip is poking fun at how he appointed so many relatives.
Weren't your ancestors engaged in lend and lease already before? :03: Early 1941, I seem to recall. And that is what the US action over Ukraine today compares to. Not declaring war, but lend and lease. You even have revoked or mull to revoke the law from back then. I forgot the details but you certainly know what I mean, its in the news since a few weeks.
What will the United States get from a devastated country called Ukraine? Now let's roll back to the 40t's. It was your ancestors that brought about lend lease.Am i right or am i wrong ?
As if otherwise there would have no impact in the US under Trump's brand of swamp inbreeding.
Swamp inbreeding,? Exactly how does that occur? My wife is from Philadelphia PA. So if we have children do you think they will be born with web feet and large Northern heads? Can you clarify what you mean before we have any children?
em2nought
05-22-22, 01:43 AM
Swamp inbreeding,? Exactly how does that occur? My wife is from Philadelphia PA. So if we have children do you think they will be born with web feet and large Northern heads? Can you clarify what you mean before we have any children?
He clarified already that he wasn't referring to all of us flyover peons as being inbred. He was referring to Trump having to use members of his own family to avoid putting rino swamp creatures in positions where they could derail the Trump train. Too bad Trump didn't have a much bigger family. :03:
Yep, a golden opportunity certainly went begging there :yep:
It would seem all Democracies on this planet, are a day late and millions of dollars short.Then again when was the last time that your Government had a balanced budget.? If i don't have one that my family must adhere to have 2 choices crime or crime
He clarified already that he wasn't referring to all of us flyover peons as being inbred. He was referring to Trump having to use members of his own family to avoid putting rino swamp creatures in positions where they could derail the Trump train. Too bad Trump didn't have a much bigger family. :03:
No i understood what he said.I don't live in a flyover.
Yep, a golden opportunity certainly went begging there :yep:
Can the Uk stop Putin in his tracks. ? This is where the rubber hit's the road. Tell the U.S.A. to get out The Uk on it's own will step up.Be all that you say you are.America can supply the weapons.
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