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Rockstar
05-12-22, 09:31 PM
Why Serbia’s President Is a Threat to Europe
Aleksandar Vucic’s authoritarian government is aiding Russian and Chinese propaganda and allowing genocide denialists to celebrate war criminals.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/05/serbia-vucic-mladic-mural-lithium-china-russia-threat-europe/
In November and December 2021, thousands of Serbian citizens took to the streets, blocking key roads for three weekends to protest a proposed law facilitating expropriation seen as favoring a large-scale lithium mine planned in Western Serbia by the multinational company Rio Tinto.
RIO TINTO (RIO) is buying out my favorite mine in Mongolia too. :up: RIO TINTO, they’re ruthless, they’ll blow up gravesites and national monuments and not blink an eye to exploit rare earth metals, nobody likes them them but man do that make me a lot of money. <woot> :yeah:
Catfish
05-13-22, 02:19 AM
If it was only about protesting an international company, in this case the Serbs have my sympathy unless they want all their rivers tinted rosso with chemicals and waste.
Serbia's Aleksandar Vucic and his parliament porbably sees the russian war as the right time to start its own. They were always for becoming russian or at least one of Russia's satellites.
Buying lots of turkish Bayraktar drones lately, also giant chinese military tranport planes supplying Serbia with all kinds of military hardware regularly.
There is something brewing indeed. I take with Serbia and its history of starting wars there may well be another one soon, and maybe a world wide once more. Oh joy.
Skybird
05-13-22, 06:10 AM
And this while the harvests for popcorn grow thin. Its a shame.
Serious, while Mladic and gang were wrong back then, the reality-denying ideas of the EU and NATO how to structure and socially engineering the Balkans new were wrong too. Whatever is brewing now down there - the kettle had been put on the fire already many years ago. Maybe it was never really taken off the fire, just rotated a bit.
This is my personal standpoint
I don't think Serbia will start a new war..I think they will go active in on Russians side of the war in Ukraine.
Markus
Rockstar
05-13-22, 07:40 AM
China delivers missiles to Serbia, raising concerns of an arms buildup
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/china-delivers-missiles-to-serbia-raising-concerns-of-an-arms-buildup
World Apr 10, 2022 3:06 PM EDT
BELGRADE, Serbia (AP) — Russian ally Serbia took the delivery of a sophisticated Chinese anti-aircraft system in a veiled operation this weekend, amid Western concerns that an arms buildup in the Balkans at the time of the war in Ukraine could threaten the fragile peace in the region.
Media and military experts said Sunday that six Chinese Air Force Y-20 transport planes landed at Belgrade’s civilian airport early Saturday, reportedly carrying HQ-22 surface-to-air missile systems for the Serbian military.
The Chinese cargo planes with military markings were pictured at Belgrade’s Nikola Tesla airport. Serbia’s defense ministry did not immediately respond to AP’s request for comment.
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The arms delivery over the territory of at least two NATO member states, Turkey and Bulgaria, was seen by experts as a demonstration of China’s growing global reach.
“The Y-20s’ appearance raised eyebrows because they flew en masse as opposed to a series of single-aircraft flights,” wrote The Warzone online magazine. “The Y-20′s presence in Europe in any numbers is also still a fairly new development.”
Serbian military analyst Aleksandar Radic said that “the Chinese carried out their demonstration of force.”
Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic all but confirmed the delivery of the medium-range system that was agreed in 2019, saying on Saturday that he will present “the newest pride” of the Serbian military on Tuesday or Wednesday.
He had earlier complained that NATO countries, which represent most of Serbia’s neighbors, are refusing to allow the system’s delivery flights over their territories amid tensions over Russia’s aggression on Ukraine.
Although Serbia has voted in favor of U.N. resolutions that condemn the bloody Russian attacks in Ukraine, it has refused to join international sanctions against its allies in Moscow or outright criticize the apparent atrocities committed by the Russian troops there.
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Back in 2020, U.S. officials warned Belgrade against the purchase of HQ-22 anti-aircraft systems, whose export version is known as FK-3. They said that if Serbia really wants to join the European Union and other Western alliances, it must align its military equipment with Western standards.
The Chinese missile system has been widely compared to the American Patriot and the Russian S-300 surface-to-air missile systems although it has a shorter range than more advanced S-300s. Serbia will be the first operator of the Chinese missiles in Europe.
Serbia was at war with its neighbors in the 1990s. The country, which is formally seeking EU membership, has already been boosting its armed forces with Russian and Chinese arms, including warplanes, battle tanks and other equipment.
In 2020, it took delivery of Chengdu Pterodactyl-1 drones, known in China as Wing Loong. The combat drones are able to strike targets with bombs and missiles and can be used for reconnaissance tasks.
There are fears in the West that the arming of Serbia by Russia and China could encourage the Balkan country toward another war, especially against its former province of Kosovo that proclaimed independence in 2008. Serbia, Russia and China don’t recognize Kosovo’s statehood, while the United States and most Western countries do.
nikimcbee
05-13-22, 04:46 PM
At this point, will submarines be used in this?
Skybird
05-13-22, 04:50 PM
A China-syndrome-like tunnel for submarines right through the core of the planet, from their half of the world to ours?
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