installing gwx gold without disk

[flag4]

just starting SH3 again after many years.
on a lap top with Windows 11.
trying to install GWX Gold and im told i need disk7.

i have no disk insert on this new laptop

any ideas most welcome
cheers flag4.

[lees72]

You’d be better off buying a digital version of sh3 from gta for £3.45

[Jeff-Groves]

Are you using the 7 bin files install?
If so you may need to download them again.
I'd just get the single file complete installer.

[Mad Mardigan]

Sounds like you either grabbed a pirated incompete copy of SH3... or... the download you grabbed, was either incomplete or somehow, managed to end up corrupted. :yep:

You'd be better off... grabbing a paid for download, from Ubishaf... erhm, Ubisoft.

Can grab it there for less than a cup of Starbuck's overpriced coffee... it's that cheap. :shucks:

:Kaleun_Salute:

M. M.

[Jeff-Groves]

He states he's trying to install GWX.

"trying to install GWX Gold and im told i need disk7."


So I'd assume SH3 is already installed!

Asking for disk 7 usually means GWX_7.bin is corrupt.

Single FULL GWX installer.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/a0w344v8h56b1h0/GWX3_Full.exe/file

[Mad Mardigan]

He states he's trying to install GWX.

"trying to install GWX Gold and im told i need disk7."


So I'd assume SH3 is already installed!

Asking for disk 7 usually means GWX_7.bin is corrupt.

Single FULL GWX installer.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/a0w344v8h56b1h0/GWX3_Full.exe/file

Ahhhh... :doh: :o :oops:

I stand corrected...

I blame it on... a lack of, navy mud... aka coffee. :yep:

:Kaleun_Salute:

M. M.

[blackswan40]

Hi Flag4 ive sent you a PM with my Mediafire downloadlink of SH3 (already patched to 1.4)zipped up using 7zip from this revival install from my PC just in case your using the Original SH3 with that nasty starforce protection
also ensure you install it outside program files x86 just on drive C:/ or a second drive


Greywolfs Onkel Jeff's download site https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=102096


https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1230&pictureid=11186


regards blackswan40

[Jeff-Groves]

Greywolfs Onkel Jeff
:har:

My nieces and nephews, plus many of my friends children, call me Uncle Bucky.
Some of my Sub-Contractors call me abuelo. (Spanish for grandpa).
Wife just calls me when she wants money!
:o

[flag4]

Hi Flag4 ive sent you a PM with my Mediafire downloadlink of SH3 (already patched to 1.4)zipped up using 7zip from this revival install from my PC just in case your using the Original SH3 with that nasty starforce protection
also ensure you install it outside program files x86 just on drive C:/ or a second drive


Greywolfs Onkel Jeff's download site https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=102096


https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1230&pictureid=11186


regards blackswan40

thank you so much for your help. i downloaded it direct from steam. its patched to 1.4 too. unfortunately its slotted in program files x86. its running very smoothly on this new but low end laptop. at the moment all is well Herr Kaleun! thank you again.:up:

[flag4]

He states he's trying to install GWX.

"trying to install GWX Gold and im told i need disk7."


So I'd assume SH3 is already installed!

Asking for disk 7 usually means GWX_7.bin is corrupt.

Single FULL GWX installer.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/a0w344v8h56b1h0/GWX3_Full.exe/file

thank you for this download! its all running well at present on windows11 laptop. drains the battery like hell. been a while since i last went out - maybe eight to ten years? so i'm finding my around around old familiar routines once more. thank for your help :salute:

[flag4]

installed SH3 the other day onto this new laptop. plenty of power for it.
running windows11. inspiron 15 3000. downloaded from steam. patched to 1.4.
been running fine with gwx gold. then yesterday started crashing at grey wolves load screen back to desktop. cant figure it out?

steam puts it in program files x86. is it alright there. and if not how can i move to prog files?

had mod enabler running to. popped in a few installed mods. nothing heavy.

enabled SHCommander and that seemed to make it worse.

i am now all uninstalled and cleaned out. any help would be a great help!

thanks flag4

[propbeanie]

installed SH3 the other day onto this new laptop. plenty of power for it.
running windows11. inspiron 15 3000. downloaded from steam. patched to 1.4.
been running fine with gwx gold. then yesterday started crashing at grey wolves load screen back to desktop. cant figure it out?

steam puts it in program files x86. is it alright there. and if not how can i move to prog files?

had mod enabler running to. popped in a few installed mods. nothing heavy.

enabled SHCommander and that seemed to make it worse.

i am now all uninstalled and cleaned out. any help would be a great help!

thanks flag4
You will want to consult Moving a Steam Installation and Games (https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4BD4-4528-6B2E-8327) on the Steam Knowledgebase site. SH3 and JSGME both are "old" Windows XP programs. With the introduction of Vista, Windows introduced User Access Control (UAC) and other 'technologies', which restricts edits in the Program Files folders, and all "system" folders. Ostensibly, this is to protect the user and MS's OS from unauthorized intruders, such as worms and viruses, etc. However, JSGME is not "authorized" by Windows (being an "old" program) to make the cfg file and other changes, and therefore what Windows deems to be "system" files are rolled back, resulting in a mish-mash of Stock and GWX.

Make yourself a "Games" folder, or similar, and put your Steam games in there, or if you have a viable second hard drive, make a new Steam Library folder there, and install SH3 in there.

Even the disk version of the game does the same "default" install location of Program Files (x86), resulting in the same mess. Change the install path to a folder you make yourself, and put the game there. Another aspect to be aware of is the "help" that the 'modern' Windows gives the user with their video stream. Newer programs communicate with Windows, whereas SH3 doesn't have a clue what is going on in the background, and doesn't "understand" some of the techniques used by Windows to make things "pretty". You probably also have to use the SH3.exe "Properties" settings to make things "compatible" with Windows. This is a Windows 10 example of an SH4.exe screen on one of my computers:

https://i.imgur.com/bP46VIS.jpg

The little "window" on top is from pressing the "Change high DPI settings" button. On one of our laptops, I have to use all the settings there. On most, just that "High DPI scaling override" section. With SH3, you do have to use the "Compatibility Mode" box, and on my machines, I set SH3 to "Windows XP", other folks use different settings. Experimentation is the name of the game. You have to get stock (the Steam version is v1.4b already) running correctly first, then do the mods and try more experiments, if necessary. :salute:

[flag4]

You will want to consult Moving a Steam Installation and Games (https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4BD4-4528-6B2E-8327) on the Steam Knowledgebase site. SH3 and JSGME both are "old" Windows XP programs. With the introduction of Vista, Windows introduced User Access Control (UAC) and other 'technologies', which restricts edits in the Program Files folders, and all "system" folders. Ostensibly, this is to protect the user and MS's OS from unauthorized intruders, such as worms and viruses, etc. However, JSGME is not "authorized" by Windows (being an "old" program) to make the cfg file and other changes, and therefore what Windows deems to be "system" files are rolled back, resulting in a mish-mash of Stock and GWX.

Make yourself a "Games" folder, or similar, and put your Steam games in there, or if you have a viable second hard drive, make a new Steam Library folder there, and install SH3 in there.

Even the disk version of the game does the same "default" install location of Program Files (x86), resulting in the same mess. Change the install path to a folder you make yourself, and put the game there. Another aspect to be aware of is the "help" that the 'modern' Windows gives the user with their video stream. Newer programs communicate with Windows, whereas SH3 doesn't have a clue what is going on in the background, and doesn't "understand" some of the techniques used by Windows to make things "pretty". You probably also have to use the SH3.exe "Properties" settings to make things "compatible" with Windows. This is a Windows 10 example of an SH4.exe screen on one of my computers:

https://i.imgur.com/bP46VIS.jpg

The little "window" on top is from pressing the "Change high DPI settings" button. On one of our laptops, I have to use all the settings there. On most, just that "High DPI scaling override" section. With SH3, you do have to use the "Compatibility Mode" box, and on my machines, I set SH3 to "Windows XP", other folks use different settings. Experimentation is the name of the game. You have to get stock (the Steam version is v1.4b already) running correctly first, then do the mods and try more experiments, if necessary. :salute:

hi propbeanie

thanks for taking the time to get back to me. but all the above is way over my knowledge base. i just wish to install SH3 on my laptop and get it running smoothly. i'm now left with nothing installed and a copy of SH3 in a zip file i cant install - don't know why? if i create a folder for it it says error or i don't have the right permissions? so i'm stumped. if you have any knowledge on how to install it correctly id be very grateful. cheers flag4

[Jeff-Groves]

You in the USA?

[propbeanie]

hi propbeanie

thanks for taking the time to get back to me. but all the above is way over my knowledge base. i just wish to install SH3 on my laptop and get it running smoothly. i'm now left with nothing installed and a copy of SH3 in a zip file i cant install - don't know why? if i create a folder for it it says error or i don't have the right permissions? so i'm stumped. if you have any knowledge on how to install it correctly id be very grateful. cheers flag4
Let Jeff know where you are located of course, but where are you attempting to create the folder? Open Windows Explorer / File Explorer, whatever you find on your computer to "see" the folders. Double-click on your C: drive icon to open it, and right-click in the right-hand pane and see if you don't have a "New..." option, with "Folder" after you left-click on "New". You should then see a "highlighted" dark blue "New folder" waiting for you to re-name it to whatever you'd like, such as "flag4zGames" or whatever. You then install SH3 in that folder, and GWX inside that particular SH3 game folder. If you cannot create a folder in the C: root, then you are logged-in on a restricted User account, and would probably find it easiest to log-in on an Administrator enabled account to do all of the set-up work, then go back and use your User account. As has been mentioned in other threads by several people now, using anything "protected" by Windows will defeat your efforts, whether the Documents folder, Program Files folders, etc. It doesn't matter if you have an original disk, new disk, Steam, Ubisoft or other download or whatever.

[kyle9154]

See this is why people use discord these days so they can communicate easier and use screen share etc to help people and not use this centuries old way of messaging on subsim. hmmmmmmm??? work smart not hard ;)

Get on subsim discord so then i might be able to help you in a video call and show you how you open and extract files the old sh3 way

[blackswan40]

Hi Again Flag4 at the steel sharks clan we use a program called team viewer and its free for private remotely access, control and support any device, across platforms — from anywhere, anytime.
If you download it and we touched base with each other i could have your SH3 installed with GWX Commander mod Commander Mod Config File and 4Gig Patch squared away within one hour its totaly secure you have a id number and a password the password changes each time you use team viewer and it only works if we are both online at the same time and you have given me your password download link below.


I live in Co Durham Uk but if your in the USA your 5/6 hours behind me thats no problem if we arange a time to hook up with each other ill be there and get your squared away i have used team viewer with guys from the states canada even austrailia



Regards blackswan40



https://www.teamviewer.com/en/

[Jeff-Groves]

centuries old way
:o
Obviously you don't understand the Inter webs tech.
:har:

[kyle9154]

Hi Again Flag4 at the steel sharks clan we use a program called team viewer and its free for private remotely access, control and support any device, across platforms — from anywhere, anytime.
If you download it and we touched base with each other i could have your SH3 installed with GWX Commander mod Commander Mod Config File and 4Gig Patch squared away within one hour its totaly secure you have a id number and a password the password changes each time you use team viewer and it only works if we are both online at the same time and you have given me your password download link below.


I live in Co Durham Uk but if your in the USA your 5/6 hours behind me thats no problem if we arange a time to hook up with each other ill be there and get your squared away i have used team viewer with guys from the states canada even austrailia



Regards blackswan40



https://www.teamviewer.com/en/

I'd honestly go with BlackSwan here since he's willing to put his time in and help, I know about team viewer too and its a good program.

[flag4]

Hi Again Flag4 at the steel sharks clan we use a program called team viewer and its free for private remotely access, control and support any device, across platforms — from anywhere, anytime.
If you download it and we touched base with each other i could have your SH3 installed with GWX Commander mod Commander Mod Config File and 4Gig Patch squared away within one hour its totaly secure you have a id number and a password the password changes each time you use team viewer and it only works if we are both online at the same time and you have given me your password download link below.


I live in Co Durham Uk but if your in the USA your 5/6 hours behind me thats no problem if we arange a time to hook up with each other ill be there and get your squared away i have used team viewer with guys from the states canada even austrailia



Regards blackswan40



https://www.teamviewer.com/en/

ok blackswan. i'll go with that. i'm UK also. does that mean you have remote access to my laptop? as you would accept, i might have a few issues with that. and of course, nothing personal. just simple security concerns. if you could be so patient with me and just explain the process a little more i would be grateful. cheers, looking forward to hear from you, flag4.:up:

[flag4]

I'd honestly go with BlackSwan here since he's willing to put his time in and help, I know about team viewer too and its a good program.


hey kyle9154
thanks for your concern and interest. i do appreciate it. as you can see, i'm thinking of hooking up with blackswan as a solution to this conundrum!
i'm a bit backward when it comes to social platforms i'm afraid. and i'm a bit long in the leg to catch up. thanks again for your support. and no doubt you'll see the outcome, one way or the other - here at Subsim!
cheers flag4:up:

[kyle9154]

hey kyle9154
thanks for your concern and interest. i do appreciate it. as you can see, i'm thinking of hooking up with blackswan as a solution to this conundrum!
i'm a bit backward when it comes to social platforms i'm afraid. and i'm a bit long in the leg to catch up. thanks again for your support. and no doubt you'll see the outcome, one way or the other - here at Subsim!
cheers flag4:up:

No worries and you can trust people like Black Swan and Jeff and any subsim overlord as they donate and have a passion for these sub games. Anyone that has been on subsim for good 6 or more years knows the ins and outs and are very helpful.

P.S. Jesus look at the avatar they just gave me now....i'm not no goddamn crossdresser...I blame subsim for this, intolerable!!!!! ewwwwww

[Mad Mardigan]

Teamviewer... is where you have to accept remote control of what goes on with your computer... it's NOT a hacker, having attacked your computers firewall (or a crap ton of defenses, with firewall being but just 1 of them... :yep:) & breaching it, for 1. You can go with unlimited remote access (only suggested if you 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt, trust the 1 that has that level of access... only) to access where you are there with them...

2ndly... blackswans a good bean... flag4, I know... having worked with 'im before a few times (along with 1 other subsimmer) in getting another user of SH3... or was it SH4... has been, well more than a few to be quite completely frank about it.... set to rights & off hunting.

Heck, main point is... swan's... good people. :Kaleun_Cheers:

:Kaleun_Salute:

M. M.

[flag4]

Teamviewer... is where you have to accept remote control of what goes on with your computer... it's NOT a hacker, having attacked your computers firewall (or a crap ton of defenses, with firewall being but just 1 of them... :yep:) & breaching it, for 1. You can go with unlimited remote access (only suggested if you 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt, trust the 1 that has that level of access... only) to access where you are there with them...

2ndly... blackswans a good bean... flag4, I know... having worked with 'im before a few times (along with 1 other subsimmer) in getting another user of SH3... or was it SH4... has been, well more than a few to be quite completely frank about it.... set to rights & off hunting.

Heck, main point is... swan's... good people. :Kaleun_Cheers:

:Kaleun_Salute:

M. M.


point taken. cheers: :up: