FB is down

[Onkel Neal]

Haha, was watching 60 Minutes last night, a whistleblower was outing FB for feeding the hate and division...and this morning it's off line. Hopefully forever! :Kaleun_Applaud:

[Jimbuna]

Still off at this time of posting.

[mapuc]

Thank God we have Subsim Radioroom

FB is a lot more than hate and division.

Thinking about my friends who doesn't discuss politics, religion or problem in our society.

Markus

[mapuc]

Haha, was watching 60 Minutes last night, a whistleblower was outing FB for feeding the hate and division...and this morning it's off line. Hopefully forever! :Kaleun_Applaud:

Do you have a youtube link to this specific subject in this 60 minutes.

Found this and i don't know if it is this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lx5VmAdZSI

Markus

[Onkel Neal]

That's it.

[mapuc]

It's world wide this breakdown-Which indicate it ain't a technical problem-As I understand it.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErDGpdmBZkY

[Otto Harkaman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPIdRJlzERo

[Subnuts]

I actually don't mind Instagram. There's some great photographers on there and some cool fan sites.

Facebook, on the other hand, is 99% hot garbage.

[mapuc]

I would miss FB if it went down. Every Danish online friends I have is through FB. Have on several occasion giving proposal to a Danish forum, but none of them are interested in such a thing.

Markus

[Skybird]

Not only have I not subscribed to any of these, I also avoid just randomly surfing there.

For similiar reasons I will never consider Oculus for VR replacement again. As far as I'm concerned, that company is dead after next year.


My only social medium I need is Subsim General Topics. :Kaleun_Cheers: :Kaleun_Party:

[Rockstar]

I imagine corporate is working overtime right now deleting evidence. So it might be awhile before they’re online again.

[mapuc]

Wondering if it could have something to do with what this whistleblower revealed in 60 Minutes yesterday ?

It could easily become conspiratorial

Markus

[Jeff-Groves]

So. If I did a prayer last night asking God to Hammer the 'New Day Sodom'.
And FB goes POOF!
Is it an act of God? Or could I be sued?
:hmmm:

[Catfish]

FB down? My heart bleeds. I hope it stays that way.

And while i am at it:

Jeff Bezos has thanked his employees for "helping him to get to space".
We should give him a kick in his a$$ that will directly send him to the moon.

[Jeff-Groves]

I'm just wondering if a programmer I know is responsible!
:hmmm:

According to him? He can drop Nations with some groundbreaking software he has written.

I heard He was going to target China after a test deployment.

[mapuc]

I'm just wondering if a programmer I know is responsible!
:hmmm:

According to him? He can drop Nations with some groundbreaking software he has written.

He can only affect the server his account is on.

From what I have learned about how fb works your account is placed on a server in your country or in a country near you.

A world wide shutdown indicate it's not a technical problem.

My little sister said it's not the first time FB went down around the globe.

I can't recall it.

Markus

[Jeff-Groves]

If this Guy says he can do it? I believe he can!
He is the BEST programmer I have EVER met in my life!

I'm wonder if he has brought 'Jack the Ripper' online as a test.

I can't get details on this system right now but it's nothing like any of us here have in our homes!
And the software, according to him, will change things in a way no one can comprehend.

[mapuc]

According to the news here in Denmark.

FB has problem with their DNS server.

Maybe this could be the reason to why this breakdown is world wide.

Markus

[Jeff-Groves]

You have any idea how many DNS Servers are actually out there?
Or how DNS actually works?
Given one has a powerful enough system and the right software?
One could destroy DNS listings World Wide!

Say that system and software hides it self and continues a World Wide attack.
How could you trace and stop it?

I'd not be surprised if I get a knock on my door from the Feds if JTR is live!

[mapuc]

A DNS make you come to the right homepage like subsim.com/radioroom when you enter the name in your URL field. You could also enter subsims ip-adress(numbers) directly.

I could be wrong though.

Edit
Made search on how DNS works and found this


DNS allows a domain name to be associated with an IP address. So instead of typing an IP address that consists of a large number of numbers, you can, for example, type Facebook.com in the browser, and then DNS will redirect you to the correct website.

However, it is apparently Facebook's DNS that is down, which is why the website cannot be accessed.

For example, Google has the IP address 172.217.16.67. Here, the DNS Servers ensure that when you enter Google, it is converted to 172.217.16.67.

End edit

Markus

[Jeff-Groves]

You are partially correct. But those records are online and can be destroyed!
:03:
DOS attacks are one thing. DNS attacks are a whole different thing!
Given one has a system with enough CPU power behind it, a totally new software doing it, and the bandwidth?

Good luck stopping it!

Then add in the fact he is willing to go to prison after he attacks China?
How soon you think he would be stopped?

Here's FB's IP address.
69.171.228.70

[mapuc]

Forgot this information about these DNS-server

All these web addresses and their IP address are then posted to so-called Root Servers, so that no matter where in the world you are, you can access an internet page to use the website's IP address.

If this information does not reach these Root Servers due to a local crash on Facebook's Domain Name Service, then after some time they will be deleted on the Root Servers, which will mean that the website will crash.

Don't know what that mean in plain English.
Especially the last sentence.

Markus

[Admiral8Q]

Remember, the internet was invented as a redundant computer network to prevent centralization and keep working even after multiple attacks. Centralizing like FB has proved how easy it is to take that server (servers) offline. I'm guessing the a.i. algorithms made it even easier.

Heh heh! :Kaleun_Cheers:

Anyways, time to go shopping then...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeHdZZtr0xk

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeHdZZtr0xk)

[Eichhörnchen]

Facebook is back on

Notifications panel won't work, however: when you try to open a notification you first get "Query Error", then "Oops... something went wrong"

Also, posting isn't working either, so it may as well be down

[Skybird]

The tecnical problems seem to have gone beyond FB, since other oparts of the internet have been reporte dform saroudn the globe to have broken down, internet providers saying websites in parts were not accessible, even regionally total blackouts, in germany as well , have been reported. Over here, all provider companies had/have been affected.



A cyberattack is seen as unlikely, since DNS servers, the likely cause of the problems, are too diverse in specs to knock them out simultaneously on such a scale.

[mapuc]

It was a man made failure at FB which was the reason to this major breakdown. So it says in a Danish newspaper.

Markus

[Admiral8Q]

It was a man made failure at FB which was the reason to this major breakdown. So it says in a Danish newspaper.

Markus

You nay be right. Most want to blame an "attack". FB has been screwy for at least a month already. It's probably a overload failure of the a.i. algorithms.
Of course I wouldn't rule out an "attack", though if so it would be easy to push it over the edge, metaphorically.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4WJsp16CpY

[Otto Harkaman]

a bet a squirrel got into the system causing havoc storing nuts

https://www.attic-solutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/squirrel-meme-your-worst-nightmare.jpg

[Skybird]

If so, a job well done. I know why I love squirrels so much.



A single compoany amassing so manby facets and market accesses, represents a fundamental lump risk, in multiple dimensions: material, financial, cultural, economical, legal, technical...


Too big. Way too big, like many others, too. These become a threat to the common good.

[Arlo]

If so, a job well done. I know why I love squirrels so much.



A single compoany amassing so manby facets and market accesses, represents a fundamental lump risk, in multiple dimensions: material, financial, cultural, economical, legal, technical...


Too big. Way too big, like many others, too. These become a threat to the common good.

That's it. I'm reporting you to Mark Zuckerberg. :shucks:

[Armistead]

I have FB and enjoy several historical and selling groups, but that's about it. I think I've amassed about 100 friends over 12 years and I tire of the political stuff they post. I'm conservative, but most my conservative friends are nuts politically. I usually get on and check when I brew a fresh pot of coffee every 3 days or so. I don't have any apps like What..ever app it is. I also lie about everything about me at least some, not that it probably helps much. I do think they listen through your phone tho, cuz I can just be talking to a friend about something and next thing I know I'm getting tons of ads related to the discussion. Also, my wife was out of town and in Messenger I cut up and told her to send me some boobs, which first got me pics of Biden and Harris, but I guess cutting up sent me hers. She then told me to pick up dog food and ..bam...dog food ads everywhere. If you ever see a set on dog food bags...now ya know.

[Buddahaid]

What does Facecrook have to do with your phone? It's your phone service that is selling your name.

[Reece]

What does Facecrook have to do with your phone? It's your phone service that is selling your name.
Could also be he has a viral app on his phone that is monitoring, using speech recognition, certain words that promote the ads. :hmmm:

[Catfish]

That's it. I'm reporting you to Mark Zuckerberg. :shucks:
You mean this nice guy who invented his first website to judge women by their looks and make this public to denigrate them? The one stealing your data and selling them to companies so they can screw you better? The one who creates algorhythms to follow and foretell your behaviour, and record it all for making more money? The one that let people spout all their hate and make racism and the far right wing socially "acceptable" again? The one who knows that hate and diversion draws customers to his site, so he promotes this actively (because companies then pay more for advertising)?

By all means, do that. And if you go there please carry a small device i give to you to hand over to him. Thanks man! :D

[Jimbuna]

Whilst I use FB now and then I can honestly say I didn't miss it.

[mapuc]

Whilst I use FB now and then I can honestly say I didn't miss it.

Same here. When it comes to missing it.

I had access to our forum and this meant more to me, than not being able to access FB.

Could this have to do with the fact that I/we inside our self somehow knew FB would come back sooner or later ?

I visit FB on daily basis this to read and give a like to my Danish friends and to post some comment-I don't write my own bulletin.

A weird thought.
Wonder if there was people thinking on suicide, when they find out that FB was down-There are people who are very addictive to FB.

Markus

[mapuc]

Found this article

Facebook whistleblower will urge U.S. Senate to regulate company

https://www.reuters.com/technology/facebook-accountable-no-one-whistleblower-will-say-testimony-2021-10-04/

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Well no doubt many will be experiencing a sigh of relief.

[Rockstar]

Found this article



https://www.reuters.com/technology/facebook-accountable-no-one-whistleblower-will-say-testimony-2021-10-04/

Markus

Well no doubt many will be experiencing a sigh of relief.


Not everyone sees it as something good or a relief. Think about it, heck, just look at how many here fell for the Russiagate conspiracy theories which inundated the daily cable and mainstream media news cycles. They swallowed it all hook line and sinker without question. Not too long ago I was still reading things about how they’re gonna get Trump, low hanging fruit, anyday now, ticktock. Guess what, all those pages of posts all that bandwidth a waste. The whole Russiagate thing was sham, debunked, a lie, a conspiracy theory half of the voters fell for. Now its time to ‘regulate’ social media in the same manner I guess.

What’s most concerning is just under 2/3 of Democrats favor U.S. Government censorship of the internet in the name of fighting misinformation. Yet these same people were the ones who fell for believing in true q-anon fashion main stream media Russiagate conspiracies.

Democrats and Media Do Not Want to Weaken Facebook, Just Commandeer its Power to Censor

"Whistleblower" Frances Haugen is a vital media and political asset because she advances their quest for greater control over online political discourse.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/democrats-and-media-do-not-want-to


The social media giant hurts America and the world, this narrative maintains, by permitting misinformation to spread (presumably more so than cable outlets and mainstream newspapers do virtually every week); fostering body image neurosis in young girls through Instagram (presumably more so than fashion magazines, Hollywood and the music industry do with their glorification of young and perfectly-sculpted bodies); promoting polarizing political content in order to keep the citizenry enraged, balkanized and resentful and therefore more eager to stay engaged (presumably in contrast to corporate media outlets, which would never do such a thing); and, worst of all, by failing to sufficiently censor political content that contradicts liberal orthodoxies and diverges from decreed liberal Truth. On Tuesday, Haugen's star turn took her to Washington, where she spent the day testifying before the Senate about Facebook's dangerous refusal to censor even more content and ban even more users than they already do.

There is no doubt, at least to me, that Facebook and Google are both grave menaces. Through consolidation, mergers and purchases of any potential competitors, their power far exceeds what is compatible with a healthy democracy. A bipartisan consensus has emerged on the House Antitrust Committee that these two corporate giants — along with Amazon and Apple — are all classic monopolies in violation of long-standing but rarely enforced antitrust laws. Their control over multiple huge platforms that they purchased enables them to punish and even destroy competitors, as we saw when Apple, Google and Amazon united to remove Parler from the internet forty-eight hours after leading Democrats demanded that action, right as Parler became the most-downloaded app in the country, or as Google suppresses Rumble videos in its dominant search feature as punishment for competing with Google's YouTube platform. Facebook and Twitter both suppressed reporting on the authentic documents about Joe Biden's business activities reported by The New York Post just weeks before the 2020 election. These social media giants also united to effectively remove the sitting elected President of the United States from the internet, prompting grave warnings from leaders across the democratic world about how anti-democratic their consolidated censorship power has become.

But none of the swooning over this new Facebook heroine nor any of the other media assaults on Facebook have anything remotely to do with a concern over those genuine dangers. Congress has taken no steps to curb the influence of these Silicon Valley giants because Facebook and Google drown the establishment wings of both parties with enormous amounts of cash and pay well-connected lobbyists who are friends and former colleagues of key lawmakers to use their D.C. influence to block reform. With the exception of a few stalwarts, neither party's ruling wing really has any objection to this monopolistic power as long as it is exercised to advance their own interests.

[Arlo]

... just look at how many here fell for the Russiagate conspiracy theories which inundated the daily cable and mainstream media news cycles. [/B]

https://theconversation.com/fact-check-us-what-is-the-impact-of-russian-interference-in-the-us-presidential-election-146711

https://www.cnn.com/2016/12/26/us/2016-presidential-campaign-hacking-fast-facts/index.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-senate-findings-fact/factbox-key-findings-from-senate-inquiry-into-russian-interference-in-2016-u-s-election-idUSKCN25E2OY

https://time.com/5565991/russia-influence-2016-election/

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/18/903512647/senate-report-former-trump-aide-paul-manafort-shared-campaign-info-with-russia

https://securingdemocracy.gmfus.org/fact-sheet-what-we-know-about-russias-interference-operations/

https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/download

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume2.pdf

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/senate-report-russian-interference-2016-us-election/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/putin-has-won-mueller-report-details-the-ways-russia-interfered-in-the-2016-election-11555666201

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/04/trump-russia-meddling-2016-election/587518/

And before any of you start flapping arms, running in circles and shouting 'fake news':

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2017/09/05/the-anti-semitic-origins-of-the-war-on-fake-news/

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-42724320

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/the-ominous-nazi-era-precedent-to-trump-s-fake-news-attacks-1.5438960

https://www.justsecurity.org/72339/qanon-is-a-nazi-cult-rebranded/

*ShruG* So there. :shucks: