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mapuc
09-09-21, 11:47 AM
You can't take that away from them...they think big.

What’s more, they could do it – at least according to Mason Peck, a professor of aerospace engineering and former NASA chief technologist who described the idea as “entirely feasible”.

https://www.iflscience.com/space/china-is-thinking-about-building-spaceships-bigger-than-the-burj-khalifa/

Markus

Jimbuna
09-09-21, 11:57 AM
Not in my lifetime or any time soon yet.

Skybird
09-09-21, 01:15 PM
The ISS is said to be in the end years of its life cycles, malfucntions mount up and Russia warns that it is just a quesiton of few years now until the station becomes a dangerous hazard to the crew due to life-threatrening breakdowns.


Thats the status and durability of our technology. Not something I would bet my life on for years or decades long.



However, technological and scientific and industrial development in the past took place in a.) jumps instead of linear development, and at b.) exponetial acceleartion, not linear or constant speed.


A chaos variable thatr interferes with it now is the uncertainty of how the planety ecosphere changes and how it will effect human life, civilization and thus: industrial and research processes. Foci may change. Knowledge may get lost. Ressoruces may be needed to get invested differently. This could hamper scientific development. Alsol, there are strong anti-intellectual and anti-academical movements in both the Christian-Judaic culutrla sphere as well as in the Islamic sphere. Finally there is the intellectual self-deconstruction of the Western academical tradition, and its replacement with practicing correct ideology and correct opinion as defined by the mob.

mapuc
09-09-21, 01:53 PM
If China is serious and start to build mining facilities to be placed on the Moon as first step to build this huge spaceship

I'll tell you USA would not be sitting there and do nothing.

I think it may start a new space race(forgot the correct word)

Markus

Platapus
09-11-21, 05:49 AM
I have no doubt that any space capable country could assemble in space a craft 1,000 meters long. The question is why?


The only reason you would need to build a craft that long is if there are components that need to be kept 1,000 meters apart. Absent that requirement, it would be much better to build a more compact craft that radiates outward in a balanced manner. A sort of Lego Sphere comes to mind.


Maintaining attitude control over a craft 1,000 meters long brings up difficulties concerning balance, moment, and stress that would have to be offset by a considerable benefit.

Skybird
09-11-21, 07:09 AM
Tell that the Empire's engineers...

Ah, wait, you're right. Their stuff always breaks up in the end...

mapuc
09-11-21, 05:28 PM
When JFK said that the human would place a man on the Moon before the end of this decade(60's) The development of Saturn V gave many positive side effects.

I know the same will happen here-When the Chinese regime gives the go-ahead there will be many positive side effect from developing this massive spaceship.

Markus

Buddahaid
09-11-21, 07:04 PM
Maybe it's a giant rail gun.

Rockstar
09-12-21, 08:27 AM
You can't take that away from them...they think big.



https://www.iflscience.com/space/china-is-thinking-about-building-spaceships-bigger-than-the-burj-khalifa/

Markus


The U.S. and those evile Russkies have already done everything that could be done. If China wants make a name for itself in space it needs an original idea. Unfortunately I don’t think building a big kilometer long craft is it.

mapuc
09-12-21, 08:50 AM
The U.S. and those evile Russkies have already done everything that could be done. If China wants make a name for itself in space it needs an original idea. Unfortunately I don’t think building a big kilometer long craft is it.

Your comment made me think.

Could it be so, that China invite USA and Russia to take part in this development ? Instead of compete invite and work together against a common goal.

I'm convinced there will come something good out of this.

Markus

Buddahaid
09-12-21, 09:12 AM
The U.S. and those evile Russkies have already done everything that could be done. If China wants make a name for itself in space it needs an original idea. Unfortunately I don’t think building a big kilometer long craft is it.

Humanity has not gotten anywhere close to everything that can be done. Nowhere near it.

Rockstar
09-12-21, 09:31 AM
Humanity has not gotten anywhere close to everything that can be done. Nowhere near it.

Of course there’s more that can be done. That’s why I said if China wants to make a name for itself in space it needs an original idea. Successful manned space flight, prolonged stays, docking, space walk, interplanetary travel and communications, experiments, moon landings. All done.

A kilometer long craft seems original and might place China on the list of firsts, I just don’t see it happening.

mapuc
09-12-21, 09:38 AM
Of course there’s more that can be done. That’s why I said if China wants to make a name for itself in space it needs an original idea. Successful manned space flight, prolonged stays, docking, space walk, interplanetary travel and communications, experiments, moon landings. All done.

A kilometer long craft seems original and might place China on the list of firsts, I just don’t see it happening.


Don't see it happening.

Do you think they don't proceed after having examine the plans ?
or
Do you think they will fail in their attempt to build this huge spaceship

I believe they will try if these examine they starts with says it is possible

Markus

mapuc
09-12-21, 10:47 AM
Spacetruck

One of the first thing China will do is to develop mining machinery to be placed on the Moon and the product need to be transported to a processing factory and here the Chinese will invent the Spacetruck.

Taking a driver license to "drive" this type of truck will quit different.

Markus

Rockstar
09-12-21, 11:01 AM
Like anything we do China will have to have a stated purpose to accompany the plan to build a kilometer long space craft. To build such a thing just to say you did seems pointless.

I think our plans are to establish a moon base and develop the means extract and transport its resources back to earth and maybe use the moon (The Eighth Continent) as a launch point to Mars.

Not sure what the purpose of a kilometer long space craft would be.

Buddahaid
09-12-21, 11:39 AM
Of course there’s more that can be done. That’s why I said if China wants to make a name for itself in space it needs an original idea. Successful manned space flight, prolonged stays, docking, space walk, interplanetary travel and communications, experiments, moon landings. All done.

A kilometer long craft seems original and might place China on the list of firsts, I just don’t see it happening.

Okay but I don't know how else "done everything that could be done" is supposed to be interpreted.

Jimbuna
09-12-21, 01:07 PM
You can get an awful lot of noodles in a Kilometre-Long Spaceship.

mapuc
09-12-21, 01:23 PM
I remember some thoughts I had about building bigger spaceships.

The form of it I don't know but the ship shall be big enough to carry 40-50 people and they shall each and one of them have a 2X3X2 squaremeter where they can be for them self. The ship shall also be so big it can maintain 40-50 life with food and water.

It shall also be so big that it is possible to gather satellite parts-Like a hangar deck on a carrier.

The engines should be a part of this spaceship.

Nothing but a crazy idea.

Markus

Rockstar
09-12-21, 03:34 PM
Okay but I don't know how else "done everything that could be done" is supposed to be interpreted.

In my mind it makes perfect sense ;)

Buddahaid
09-12-21, 09:27 PM
In my mind it makes perfect sense ;)

Then I suppose you mean that all the baby steps have been accomplished. And they are nothing more than the baby steps leaving vast room for improvement in order to move ahead.

Catfish
09-13-21, 08:35 AM
You can get an awful lot of noodles in a Kilometre-Long Spaceship.
Or rice.. imagine what a missile with a water-filled "war"head would do to a rice-filled hull..

Jimbuna
09-13-21, 11:33 AM
Or rice.. imagine what a missile with a water-filled "war"head would do to a rice-filled hull..

Boiled or fried? :)

mapuc
09-13-21, 01:12 PM
We will first know in around 5 years from now whether they will construct this huge spaceship or not.

They have created a group of expert who shall investigate if it's possible to build such a ship and how. They have 5 years to this.

I say they will not be able to do it by them self, they should invite USA and Russia.

Markus

mapuc
09-13-21, 01:13 PM
Boiled or fried? :)

They boil the rice before loading it into the spaceship.
When the spaceship explode the rice become fried.

Markus

Jimbuna
09-14-21, 12:48 PM
Sounds to me like it isn't a spaceship they're going to build but more of an interstellar wok.

nikimcbee
09-14-21, 02:12 PM
Sounds to me like it isn't a spaceship they're going to build but more of an interstellar wok.


Sounds like someone is having Chinese tonight?

Jimbuna
09-15-21, 08:22 AM
Sounds like someone is having Chinese tonight?

Italian actually but Chinese tomorrow.