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mapuc
07-14-21, 02:25 PM
It's almost time for another round of Olympic Games.

I hope Denmark and Sweden will win a few gold, silver and bronze during the games.

I cross my fingers hoping your country will win gold, silver and bronze too.

Do you have any favorite sports, you will try to watch in this Olympic ?

For me it's Handball, Football, Athletic, Swimming and what I else find interesting the day I watch the Olympic.

Markus

Skybird
07-14-21, 04:09 PM
Sorry, but my interest does not even match that little to none I had in the football tournament. Nill. Its not even due to Covid. Its the whole damn moneygrabbing and commercial thing, and the corruption it causes in the organisations, the political lining up with evil regimes if only they pay enough money for it. I'm done with this stuff. All of it.


Durch feuriges Laub gesickertes Herbstmorgenlicht
beglänzt die Ahnung vergänglichen Ruhms,
der einsamen Türme verfallene Zinnen Schattenriß
derweil durchs Gras des Tales kriecht,
Tau mit sich nehmend.
Und der Wind durchwandert die zeitlosen
Hallen aus Stein, gleich einem ewigen Sänger,
kündend von Heldentaten.
Der Könige Ehre, der Krieger Ruhm -
was sind sie mehr als Staub
in den schweigenden Gängen?


Could be said about medals and sports trophies as well. The older I get, the more vain these kind of things seem to me.

But this evening, i had a lonely walk in a nearby small, light forest. Temperature was great, not cold, not warm, the green appeared fresh and juicy like in spring, but the fern was out, and tight on the ground. We have heavy rains here, it was in a break I walked there, and the air was filled with the crackling of the thousands upon thousands of drops of water that dripped from the leaves of the trees. The light was greyish, and fresh, a very mild mist seemed to hover over some parts of the ground, but not too much. It was magic. It was lonely, but it was a good, positive loneliness. The smell of the ground was in the air, moist and heavy. It felt distanced from the rest of the dirty world, a moment separated from the flow of time, clean, purified, fresh, full of life. A bubble inside the turmoil of the world surrounding me from all sides and so near by.

You see, I will remember such perfect moments much longer than anything TV yells at me from during the broadcast of sports fanfares and triumphs and postures. In the end these things mean nothing, and they will not warm me in the coming difficult times of my life.

You see, that walk in the forest just 2 hours ago had kind of an impact on me. :)

Platapus
07-14-21, 04:26 PM
I look forward (not) to the usual dismal coverage of the Olympics that we have in the US.



If it is not an event where the US is anticipated of winning medals, it gets little if any coverage here. :(


Maybe if they stopped running stories about selected athlete's lives and other fluff stories, there would be more time to actually cover the less trendy events.

mapuc
07-14-21, 04:30 PM
I'm a sport fan it hasn't gone away despite my ageing.

This Olympic will not be as fun to watch as it use to.
I will watch these event I mentioned in my first post though

Know this from watching last season football from UK-No spectators-Felt like watching a movie without sound.

Markus

em2nought
07-14-21, 06:40 PM
Not really a fan of watching my flag get disrespected by privileged athletes from my own country whilst they wear sneakers made by Chinese slave labor, so nope.

Buddahaid
07-14-21, 07:51 PM
Not really a fan of watching my flag get disrespected by privileged athletes from my own country whilst they wear sneakers made by Chinese slave labor, so nope.

You must hate it when you see it improperly mounted on a vehicle, or hung incorrectly, etc.

EDIT: Anyway, those "privileged" athletes have worked very hard from a young age at conciderable sacrifice to get there.

Catfish
07-15-21, 02:40 AM
I have always wondered how a flag is "disrespected" when athletes kneel to show respect for people having suffered wrongdoing. Nothing to do with a flag, nothing to do with politics.

Cyborg322
07-15-21, 05:57 AM
I have always wondered how a flag is "disrespected" when athletes kneel to show respect for people having suffered wrongdoing. Nothing to do with a flag, nothing to do with politics.


totally agree :Kaleun_Applaud:

Simon

Jimbuna
07-15-21, 01:35 PM
I have always wondered how a flag is "disrespected" when athletes kneel to show respect for people having suffered wrongdoing. Nothing to do with a flag, nothing to do with politics.

True that :yep:

Platapus
07-15-21, 04:13 PM
Kneeling during the anthem is supposedly terrible
But athletes using the flag as a sweat rag is OK?


:doh:

mapuc
07-15-21, 04:20 PM
A countries flag and the abuse of it.

In the beginning of the 20 century a private person accused a group of sport fan for having abused the Swedish flag. These people had written Sverige/Sweden on their flags.

The prosecutor came with the conclusion that it could not be seen as an abuse of the flag. So painting the countries name, wearing it and wave with it is not abuse.

Set it on fire, tramp on it, pee on it...is abuse.

Markus

MaDef
07-15-21, 05:54 PM
I have always wondered how a flag is "disrespected" when athletes kneel to show respect for people having suffered wrongdoing. Nothing to do with a flag, nothing to do with politics.

Can't speak for other countries but Here in the Land of the Free, the following applies:(a)Designation.—
The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
(b)Conduct During Playing.—During a rendition of the national anthem—
(1)when the flag is displayed—
(A)individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;
(B)members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and
(C)all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
(2)when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

nothing about kneeling in there.

Buddahaid
07-15-21, 06:16 PM
Can't speak for other countries but Here in the Land of the Free, the following applies:

nothing about kneeling in there.

https://www.usa.gov/flag

Nothing here about mounting it in the back of your truck until it's in shreds, sticking it out your car window, leaving it up at night in the dark, or wearing it as a shirt either.

em2nought
07-15-21, 06:24 PM
You must hate it when you see it improperly mounted on a vehicle, or hung incorrectly, etc.

EDIT: Anyway, those "privileged" athletes have worked very hard from a young age at conciderable sacrifice to get there.


No matter how hard I work at trying to sing, you're definitely not going to want to be within earshot.

Buddahaid
07-15-21, 06:37 PM
No matter how hard I work at trying to sing, you're definitely not going to want to be within earshot.

LOL! The difference is the athletes compete all the time and the ones who can't "sing" well enough never find themselves moving up into higher levels of competition.

MaDef
07-15-21, 07:52 PM
https://www.usa.gov/flag

Nothing here about mounting it in the back of your truck until it's in shreds, sticking it out your car window, leaving it up at night in the dark, or wearing it as a shirt either.

2 points for deflection. I've said what I needed to.

Buddahaid
07-15-21, 07:57 PM
2 points for deflection. I've said what I needed to.

Oh c'mon! That's got to be at least worth five points!

Anyway, I woudn't call it deflection, just pointing out how 'merican flag wavers usually don't heed the rules of respect either.

Sean C
07-16-21, 01:00 AM
Comparing the person with the tattered flag waving from the back of their pickup to the multi-millionaire who only kneels during the anthem is not a good look, IMHO.

3catcircus
07-16-21, 08:22 AM
Hhere's the BLUF:

If you feel the need to show disrespect towards a nation that provided you the opportunity to compete in the Olympics by kneeling during an anthem or turning away from a flag (symbols of that nation), then you shouldn't be allowed to compete for them to begin with.

Winning Olympic gold is a gateway to fame and fortune, going all the way back to being on the Wheaties box and even before that. I'm happy to give a shot to someone else who has a greater appreciation for the opportunity they've been given.

Buddahaid
07-16-21, 08:32 AM
You do understand that the Government doesn't fund the US Olympic Committee. It's funded by private and corporate sponsors.

3catcircus
07-16-21, 08:53 AM
You do understand that the Government doesn't fund the US Olympic Committee. It's funded by private and corporate sponsors.

In the US, yes, not every nation. Doesn't change the fact that the nation is listed next to the name and that anthem plays when they award a gold. You think their corporate bankrollers would stand for it if the athletes disrespected them by turning away from a corporate logo or badmouthing the brand?

How come we don't see athletes from China, Iran, etc. taking a knee or turning away when their nations flag is shown or anthem played?

Moonlight
07-16-21, 09:32 AM
You do understand that the Government doesn't fund the US Olympic Committee. It's funded by private and corporate sponsors.
I think I've got to disagree on that point, I would say the US citizens and the US government are funding not only the US Olympic Committee but the athletes as well.
Private and corporate sponsors wouldn't exist without Huge government tax incentives, add on to that a lot of tax avoidance\evasion as well and some dubious accounting practices and that is where a lot of the money is coming from. Then we have these large corporations shipping their brands in from S Asia where some workers are being used as slave labour, and these top brands are buying for a pittance and selling to the general public for huge amounts.
I don't see any of these athletes or corporations taking a knee for those poor buggers while they're sat sunbathing in their million $ homes, its all bleeding hypocrisy of the highest order. :o

ET2SN
07-16-21, 11:56 AM
So, you're saying its all Adam and Eve's fault? :up:

I can stretch a point until it becomes a line. :salute:

Moonlight
07-17-21, 11:31 AM
Well stretch it a bit further then and explain it because I'm not understanding your post, that might be because I'm losing brain cells at an alarming rate. :O: