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I'm all for people exercising their second amendment rights, But there are some who probably would be better off if they stuck to tasers for self defense.
https://wgntv.com/news/video-shows-man-accidentally-shooting-himself-in-the-face-at-ohio-gun-range/
While I've had hot brass hit me in the face or go down my shirt, I don't think I did more than flinch. I certainly didn't start break-dancing with a loaded gun in my hand.
Odds are this guy will get rid of that gun and never pick one up again.
Jimbuna
06-20-21, 05:03 AM
Strong contender for a Darwin Award.
Platapus
06-20-21, 05:05 AM
Back when I was shooting in competitions, one learned to ignore the burning metal even though it would cause first degree burns and hurt for a while.
If this guy reacts this way with hot brass, I wonder how he will react in a situation where his "target" may be shooting back?
Moonlight
06-20-21, 08:46 AM
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I'm not in the European Economic Area, I'm in the UK, we left that other cesspit behind and started a new one. :haha:
If I have to use a vpn or something I'll not bother watching it.
Catfish
06-20-21, 10:49 AM
^ :haha: (and this censorship is of course the EU's fault :shucks:)
Astonishingly enough i can watch the vid.. he was very lucky while acting like a moron. Barrels can get hot ..
Back when I was shooting in competitions, one learned to ignore the burning metal even though it would cause first degree burns and hurt for a while.
If this guy reacts this way with hot brass, I wonder how he will react in a situation where his "target" may be shooting back?
Same thing on military rifle ranges shooting for qualification. You take the pain and deal with it after you're done.
Jimbuna
06-20-21, 01:29 PM
Even those adequately trained can have similar misfortunes. In fact, YT has many examples.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHkSbwrGObI
Rockstar
06-20-21, 07:56 PM
When we went to qual uniform regs meant we had to have a t-shirt on which was very helpfuful preventing burns. Others would even button the top shirt button to seal the neck.
But ya, if you got hit or burnt with flying brass and did anything more than flinch. The range master would remove you from the firing line.
We had the old version M16s without the bullet bump. Hot brass would eject right into my chest and shoulder and sometimes bounce into my sleeve cuff plaquet where they would slip down into the crook of my elbow and sizzle. Now that i'm middle aged the scars have finally faded but they lasted for years. Qualified expert though.
Even those adequately trained can have similar misfortunes. In fact, YT has many examples.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHkSbwrGObI Really? That misfortune was completely avoidable, either this guys training was was inadequate or he ignored it, and the end result he almost killed himself.
Jimbuna
06-21-21, 06:41 AM
Then perhaps I should have added 'supposedly' as the third word in the sentence.
Cybermat47
06-21-21, 07:42 AM
I was fortunate enough to have good teachers who drilled it into me that a firearm must always be treated as if it's loaded, even if you're 100% sure it's not loaded.
If you can't follow that rule, especially with a firearm you know is loaded, then you don't deserve to use one.
Then perhaps I should have added 'supposedly' as the third word in the sentence. I think it was using the word "misfortune" as it denotes an accident beyond a persons control, the policeman was just plain negligent.
Rockstar
06-21-21, 09:21 AM
We qual'd on the M16. For some reason I could never hit the broadside of a barn with it even if I was standing inside of one. But now, the model 870 shotgun and .45 colt I was pretty handy with.
Then the butt plate of issue shotguns was just a metal plate. Its sole purpose was to protect the stock not your shoulder. If it wasnt placed in shoulder just right it was very painfull to shoot.
I have my own 870 now and it has really nice cushy pad with also extends the reach a bit. Very fun to shoot and I get better with age too :) I can combat load that baby faster than full autos ;)
I can't read the article in first post-Restricted access for European.
From reading your response I get a picture of what happens with the thing after you have fired.
Try to recall what we had when we were at the firing range in the Swedish military.
If I remember correctly we had a bag made of fabric on the side-so when I fired my machine gun the rest of the bullet fell into this bag.
Markus
GEAUGA COUNTY, Ohio (WJW) — Video obtained by the FOX 8 I-TEAM shows a man shot and wounded himself in an accident at a local gun range.
The accidental shooting happened at a gun range in Geauga County around 6:30 p.m. Wednesday.
The video shows that he is shooting a 9 mm automatic and when he shot, he ejected the shell and it went right down the back of his shirt. So, because that’s hot — it’s brass — he started to move around and his other hand just came and the gun discharged and went through his cheek and out the top part of his other cheek,” the sheriff said.
That's the gist of the article, mupac. The video makes the point a little more poignantly.
In 45+ years of handling/shooting guns, I've had misfires, misfeeds, cookoffs, and once a runaway gun, but I've never had an accidental discharge ever. I credit my grandfather for that, The first thing he said when he gave me my first rifle (it was a single shot 22) " If I ever catch you with your finger on the trigger when when it's not pointed at the target, I'll break it" (my finger not the gun), and being 5-6 yrs old, I believed him. And to this day my finger never goes into the trigger guard until I'm ready to pull the trigger.
Jimbuna
06-21-21, 01:56 PM
^ Wise words and very similar to what I was taught in firearms training.
I can't read the article in first post-Restricted access for European.
From reading your response I get a picture of what happens with the thing after you have fired.
Try to recall what we had when we were at the firing range in the Swedish military.
If I remember correctly we had a bag made of fabric on the side-so when I fired my machine gun the rest of the bullet fell into this bag.
Markus
Ah, Sweden....
...the home of the tidy Army...
<O>
I have a video of my wife getting a spent .380 casing down the back of her shirt. She said "Ow." and reached back to dislodge it. But her stance was rock-steady and she never took the muzzle off the target. I wish I could show you guys, but she'd kill me.
She's a damn good shot, too. ♥
https://i.imgur.com/RVquBlRl.jpg
Texas Red
06-22-21, 10:41 AM
I was once doing stupid things with a BB gun with some of my friends. Like, really stupid and dangerous stuff.
And, two weeks later my mom finds out and grounds me for a week. I then had to write a paper on why "BB Guns are still lethal even though they are toys".
Learned my lesson after that one.
Rockstar
06-22-21, 11:01 AM
I was once doing stupid things with a BB gun with some of my friends. Like, really stupid and dangerous stuff.
And, two weeks later my mom finds out and grounds me for a week. I then had to write a paper on why "BB Guns are still lethal even though they are toys".
Learned my lesson after that one.
You need to start work on your next paper. "Why BB guns are NOT toys"
3catcircus
06-23-21, 06:41 PM
I was once doing stupid things with a BB gun with some of my friends. Like, really stupid and dangerous stuff.
And, two weeks later my mom finds out and grounds me for a week. I then had to write a paper on why "BB Guns are still lethal even though they are toys".
Learned my lesson after that one.
You need to start work on your next paper. "Why BB guns are NOT toys"
Hopefully somewhere in there are the words "you'll shoot your eye out..."
Texas Red
06-24-21, 04:19 AM
You need to start work on your next paper. "Why BB guns are NOT toys"
Yeah I learned my lesson pretty quickly after that one
Hopefully somewhere in there are the words "you'll shoot your eye out..."
I just wanted a Red Ryder BB Gun….:03::O:
Eichhörnchen
07-01-21, 03:15 PM
https://i.imgur.com/N6ehZc2.jpg
My little brother and I used to roll up our pyjama trouser legs and shoot NEEDLES at one anothers knees :yep:
3catcircus
07-03-21, 11:22 AM
https://i.imgur.com/N6ehZc2.jpg
My little brother and I used to roll up our pyjama trouser legs and shoot NEEDLES at one anothers knees :yep:
Flechettes for the win!
3catcircus
07-03-21, 11:24 AM
That's the gist of the article, mupac. The video makes the point a little more poignantly.
In 45+ years of handling/shooting guns, I've had misfires, misfeeds, cookoffs, and once a runaway gun, but I've never had an accidental discharge ever. I credit my grandfather for that, The first thing he said when he gave me my first rifle (it was a single shot 22) " If I ever catch you with your finger on the trigger when when it's not pointed at the target, I'll break it" (my finger not the gun), and being 5-6 yrs old, I believed him. And to this day my finger never goes into the trigger guard until I'm ready to pull the trigger.
This...
My father in law took my son when he was 5 to go help him at his auto shop. He asked him to get a Phillips head and he gave him a wrench instead. FIL jokingly said, "Look, if you aren't gonna do the job right, I'll have to fire ya."
They get back to the house and the boy says, "Pop said he was gonna set me on fire!!!"
Texas Red
07-04-21, 05:17 AM
:haha: Little kids can be like that :Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:
My little cousin went to a Cubs baseball game maybe 2 years ago and he got to go see a player for the Cubs when he went up to the stands to sign stuff and greet fans.
Well, this player (forgot who it was, I would have to ask my aunt) signed my little cousin's hat. Everyone else was happy for him but my cousin, being 4 at the time, proclaimed angrily "That guy wrote on my hat!!!!!"
:haha: We went to a RailCats game in Gary on Friday too. The newest edition to their family (he's 2) was also quite a joker. That's a story for another time though
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