View Full Version : Why are brothels illegal (in most of the US)?
Skybird
05-27-21, 07:01 AM
Hehe, I am certain with this topic I now have every moderator's attention... :D
https://www.fff.org/explore-freedom/article/why-are-brothels-illegal/
But with the last sentence in that essay being "Brothels need not exist in a free society, but their absence should not result from governments’ having made them illegal", all mods I assume can now relax a bit again.
Rockstar
05-27-21, 09:02 AM
I don't know why some comnunities would ban the oldest profession.
I lived on 'dry' island inhabited by a very small community of a devout religious kind of people. Outwardly proclaiming the evils of drugs and booze. It had one of the highest rates of drug and alchohol abuse in the State.
Onkel Neal
05-27-21, 09:05 AM
I'm all in favor of legalized brothels ;)
Mr Quatro
05-27-21, 09:20 AM
Many years ago (before my time of course) brothels were legal in Texas.
Remember the movie "Best Little Whore House in Texas" was based on a true story by a reporter for a Houston newspaper who had them busted.
A brothel can not be legal due to laws enacted by the good people of any given community, plus it's a health problem and a human trafficking problem at the same time.
A place like Amsterdam is not going to happen in the USA. They do have legal prostitution in Nevada, but it is limited to rural counties on rural ranches and is the only state that I know of.
Prostitution is however alive and well in the USA from one end to the other end.
Do your own research using "ladies of the night" and this is what you get.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxHEU40aQ9E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9AgBDkmRO4
Not exactly out of sight either so makes you wonder who's keeping the books ... :o
Know what I mean? :yep:
Moonlight
05-27-21, 09:38 AM
I remember a big scandal at my local catholic school when I was about 12, it was run by the local nuns who didn't take any prisoners when it came to down to any defiance or misbehaviour by us pupils.
One year about 10 of them went to Africa on some kind of nun exchange type system for 6 months or thereabouts, 7 of them came back bleeding pregnant, the shame of the nuns forsaking their vows forced the local council to take over the running of it. :haha: So much for morality eh. :O:
Rockstar
05-27-21, 09:52 AM
If communities support issuing clean needles and safe places for heroine addicts. So these drug abusers can shoot up in safety and without fear of arrest or prosecution.
Think what kind of safety a well run and regulated brothel would provide for the ladies and their clients. And think about all that tax revenue! You could build a free day care center next door where poor single dads drop their kids off on Friday date nights.
Do it for the children, do it for all those lonely single fathers. Vote YES for Brothels.
Skybird
05-27-21, 10:12 AM
All very interesting - just that the replies so far have little to do with the original essay's topic. :D
Moonlight
05-27-21, 10:55 AM
You brought up morality with that bloody link of yours Skybird, I'm just responding to it.
Take a chill pill then book a flight to LA and let your self go for once, I guarantee some of those girls will empty more than yer bleeding wallet, oh yeah and let us all know how it went. :haha:
At least I've found out what a snow bunny is and also a chocolate one, I was thinking what the hell is he bleeding talking about bunny rabbits for when it's a brothel\prostitution thread. :haha:
Texas Red
05-27-21, 11:06 AM
The reason for it being illegal (in my opinion) is partly that it is morally wrong and it is a place where a LOT of major criminals would go to for services. Brothels can be a hub for human and drug trafficking as well as other illegal activities.
I would say no to brothels.
it is the oldest type of work in the world
Markus
Texas Red
05-27-21, 11:18 AM
it is the oldest type of work in the world
Markus
Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that it is wrong.
That is the equivalent of murdering somebody and telling the police:
"Well, its the oldest crime in the world so that must make it right!"
Rockstar
05-27-21, 11:18 AM
Morally wrong?
"I tell you the truth, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you"
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/video/bestoftv/2010/12/14/behar.hookers.for.jesus.hln.640x360.jpg
Texas Red
05-27-21, 11:25 AM
Morally wrong?
"I tell you the truth, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you"
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/video/bestoftv/2010/12/14/behar.hookers.for.jesus.hln.640x360.jpg
Has that woman ever read the Bible before? I would hope so because any religious person would know that God absolutely detests prostitutes and any sexual immoral sin.
Giving bad girls and place to live, clean themselves up, help them find a job and find Jesus is a great thing but that wouldn't be the person I would choose to do it.
Also, if you are quoting a Biblical verse, I would like to know the exact location of it because I am absolutely certain that you are taking it out of context.
Aktungbby
05-27-21, 11:34 AM
Not quite so lad: Rahab let Joshua into Jericho; (and the earth shook??:O:) and Mary Magdalene was oft conveniently portrayed by religious hierarchy as a woman of ill reputation seeking redemption from the Savior.... and, as per my avatar, I suffer from 'Fallen Angel Syndrôme! :hmmm::O:
Bilge_Rat
05-27-21, 12:48 PM
In Canada, you have a strange situation where solicitation and "pimping" is illegal, but prostitution itself is not if carried on by an "independent" adult sex worker, so in Montreal, you have websites openly advertising "escorts" or "sugar babies".
Police do not crack down or prosecute, unless the girls are minors or violence is involved, since the law is so ambiguous.
Skybird
05-27-21, 01:11 PM
The reason for it being illegal (in my opinion) is partly that it is morally wrong and it is a place where a LOT of major criminals would go to for services. Brothels can be a hub for human and drug trafficking as well as other illegal activities.
I would say no to brothels.
Read the article again then, especially the last paragraph. ;) I agree, there should nto need to be brothels at all, but they shoulkd not be not there because state simply bans them, but because society and culture would be such - its people, that is - that the need to have them is not there.
A "moral" society would not have them, one would guess. That they are being had maybe means society is not as moral as some members of it claims. Or sexual liberality is not agreed to be necessarily immoral, as many religions claim.
Also, society's norms and cultural rules on what is moral and what not, may be different in different places.
If state simply forbids something without the crime argument being true, as the essay describes for the given examples, then this prohibition is not right in itself, but only means that some people, want to have and claim the right and power to order others what they are allowed to do and what not.
And that - libertarian freedoms versus pesky state authority commanding people around t enforce their subjugation under state authority - is what the essay is really about. ;)
No, this all is not about brothels and sexcual morality in the first. Thats an illustrating opener only.
Mr Quatro
05-27-21, 02:36 PM
You brought up morality with that bloody link of yours Skybird, I'm just responding to it.
Take a chill pill then book a flight to LA and let your self go for once, I guarantee some of those girls will empty more than yer bleeding wallet, oh yeah and let us all know how it went. :haha:
At least I've found out what a snow bunny is and also a chocolate one, I was thinking what the hell is he bleeding talking about bunny rabbits for when it's a brothel\prostitution thread. :haha:
Ask him if he knows what half and half or around the world means? :haha:
Just kidding I don't do that anymore ... they are unclean. I wouldn't mind witnessing to them though that what they are doing is bad for their health and that they are going to get old someday and nobody is going to care, but that Jesus loves them and wants to make all things right again for them.
I do feel sorry for them :yep:
I personally wouldn't visit such a place.
It isn't the same as I say ban it.
Allow it, but under strict regulations.
Brothels are allowed in Germany and in Denmark.
In both countries there are regulations.
Like the Danish brothels had to close during the corona lockdown.
Markus
Platapus
05-27-21, 06:19 PM
A woman can go to a bar every night, accept drinks from people and choose to have sex with as many men as she wants and that's OK
But if she takes a dollar, all of a sudden it is an immoral act. :doh::doh::doh::doh:
3catcircus
05-27-21, 06:42 PM
In the early 90s, when I was stationed in Pearl Harbor, the main street in Waikiki was awash in ladies plying their trade every night. Right across the street from the police station. If you were young and single or if you were a Japanese businessman in travel, forget about walking down the street unmolested.
Jeff-Groves
05-27-21, 07:23 PM
I'm not sure you really served in the Military if you didn't partake of the Ladies Services at some point.
:hmmm:
Commander Wallace
05-27-21, 07:41 PM
Oddly enough, strip clubs or as they are called, " gentleman's clubs " are perfectly legal. One could get lap dances there or other, um, assorted services as the prices are commensurate with the level of services provided. Therefore, in a way, brothels are perfectly legal.
Mr Quatro
05-27-21, 10:14 PM
Oddly enough, strip clubs or as they are called, " gentleman's clubs " are perfectly legal. One could get lap dances there or other, um, assorted services as the prices are commensurate with the level of services provided. Therefore, in a way, brothels are perfectly legal.
and how would you know that Commander? :D
les green01
05-27-21, 10:48 PM
just go to a truck stop around a college town and you don't have too wait in line and most of them girls looks better than the pro's
3catcircus
05-28-21, 05:58 AM
Oddly enough, strip clubs or as they are called, " gentleman's clubs " are perfectly legal. One could get lap dances there or other, um, assorted services as the prices are commensurate with the level of services provided. Therefore, in a way, brothels are perfectly legal.
The further out into the Pacific you get, the more liberal the strip clubs. Someone finding oneself sitting in a chair in a strip club in a place like Guam (while getting lost on the way to bingo, of course), and the term "meat seat" begins to take on a whole new meaning...
Moonlight
05-28-21, 11:14 AM
Support your local ladies of the night gentlemen, after all, Ladies of the Night Lives Matter too you know, and get this you folk who don't agree with these ladies, they're providing a service that the gentlemen's wives or girlfriends are not providing, it must be that because the alternative means that you yanks are ugly gits. :haha:
les green01
05-28-21, 12:13 PM
Support your local ladies of the night gentlemen, after all, Ladies of the Night Lives Matter too you know, and get this you folk who don't agree with these ladies, they're providing a service that the gentlemen's wives or girlfriends are not providing, it must be that because the alternative means that you yanks are ugly gits. :haha:
:har::har: looks around to check if there a lady shark circling around me anyway you go the man going pay take a woman on date spend 20 or whatever don't mean you going get any you get married it going cost you money and listening to nagging or not tonight i have a headache or why cant you be like that guy on that soap opera crap with a pro you pay you going play and you dont have to listen too a bunch of talk then like the bothers over in UK use too say over pay over sex over here man i got a feeling there a lady shark circling me now or Neal lady is around me with a cast iron skillet i think i'm getting the heck out of dodge while i can move
Remember the movie "Best Little Whore House in Texas" was based on a true story by a reporter for a Houston newspaper who had them busted.
La Grange is a song by the band ZZ Top about the "best little whorehouse in Texas".
I posted this in the useless facts thread too. But it is à propos here as well.
Commander Wallace
05-29-21, 06:20 AM
and how would you know that Commander? :D
I read a lot and of course, this isn't my first rodeo. :D Strip clubs or things like that were never my thing. I can think of much better things to do with my time and of course, much better people to do them with.
The further out into the Pacific you get, the more liberal the strip clubs. Someone finding oneself sitting in a chair in a strip club in a place like Guam (while getting lost on the way to bingo, of course), and the term "meat seat" begins to take on a whole new meaning...
I would imagine that's very true as I had relatives tell me of their time in Vietnam and the clubs not far from Subic Bay in the Philippines. From what they told me, it sounded like a zoo or that the circus had come to town.
Support your local ladies of the night gentlemen, after all, Ladies of the Night Lives Matter too you know, and get this you folk who don't agree with these ladies, they're providing a service that the gentlemen's wives or girlfriends are not providing, it must be that because the alternative means that you yanks are ugly gits. :haha:
In case no one told you Moonlight, you're not wrapped real tight. :haha::haha:
Armistead
05-29-21, 08:59 PM
I know I pay for it daily :Kaleun_Crying:
I'm not sure you really served in the Military if you didn't partake of the Ladies Services at some point.
:hmmm:
If they claim they didn't then they are lying and 30 years later when they are pretending to be upstanding citizens one of their former comrades will show up to tell the truth.
Aktungbby
05-30-21, 01:15 PM
If they claim they didn't then they are lying and 30 years later when they are pretending to be upstanding citizens one of their former comrades will show up to tell the truth.Be merciful! They're not liars; they've just forgotten their Aricept pill...along with their little blue Viagra! :shucks:
Has that woman ever read the Bible before? I would hope so because any religious person would know that God absolutely detests prostitutes and any sexual immoral sin.
Giving bad girls and place to live, clean themselves up, help them find a job and find Jesus is a great thing but that wouldn't be the person I would choose to do it.
Also, if you are quoting a Biblical verse, I would like to know the exact location of it because I am absolutely certain that you are taking it out of context.
Whacko, I have driven across Indiana when i was a long haul driver. I have seen many farms and there miles between each farm. On top of that these farms were miles away from a major city.So what do you folks do out there on a weekend?
As long as brothel's are illegal in this country. Our local cops can get a kick back from the local Pimps. And i can just about bet Germany has its fair share .Could you share about your country's brothel's ? Cause the only way to shut up one of our service personnel, man or woman who was stationed there is buy them beers till they pass out. Or give them a knuckle sandwich and send them home. Ops, Wacko there's very big world out here when you get out of Indiana.
Aktungbby
05-31-21, 10:26 AM
....these farms were miles away from a major city.So what do you folks do out there on a weekend?! They plow furrows & plant seed of course!:shucks:
Platapus
06-05-21, 03:26 PM
I'm not sure you really served in the Military if you didn't partake of the Ladies Services at some point.
:hmmm:
I almost did. I was stationed in Korea and I considered it. I was thinking to myself "Why not? Pretty much everyone is doing it with these ladies"
That's when it hit me.... Everyone was employing the same set of "professionals". :o
No thanks, I'm good. :up:
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