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Platapus
04-15-21, 01:18 PM
Here is a small sampling of the cognitive tests that ESA astronauts are asked during their training.



https://i2.wp.com/bestlifeonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/esa-test.jpg?resize=500%2C502&ssl=1

What's the answer and more importantly, why is that answer correct?


:o:06::oops::wah:

Catfish
04-15-21, 02:01 PM
B.
B?
:hmmm:

Buddahaid
04-15-21, 05:22 PM
I think B would be the answer because it doesn't match any of the others in arrangement or shading.

Platapus
04-15-21, 06:31 PM
According to the website, you have to explain why you selected your answer.

Texas Red
04-15-21, 07:00 PM
Here is a small sampling of the cognitive tests that ESA astronauts are asked during their training.



https://i2.wp.com/bestlifeonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/esa-test.jpg?resize=500%2C502&ssl=1

What's the answer and more importantly, why is that answer correct?


:o:06::oops::wah:

I think I'll just stick to Elite Dangerous and KSP..lol

August
04-15-21, 09:16 PM
According to the website, you have to explain why you selected your answer.




B. The grid pattern is that the colors stay in the same places but all four shapes have to be different than the grids on either side. Only choice B meets both of those requirements, vertically, horizontally and diagonally.

Reece
04-15-21, 09:22 PM
Are you smart enough to be an astronaut?

No! :oops:

vienna
04-16-21, 01:05 AM
I am certain the answer is "B", but I'm taking the reasoning for the answer to my grave...


Somehow, I think I would have made a very poor astronaut candidate; I have this proclivity to look at a panel of buttons/levers and say, "Hey, I wonder what this one does...?..."...

Empiricism is not a good trait for a task that involves sticking to a set of precisely choreographed actions...





<O>

d@rk51d3
04-16-21, 04:56 AM
B

To me, in each box, running left to right, the left hand shapes and the right hand shapes switch side and colours. Then switch back again..... if that makes sense.

But I’m smart enough to not want to be an astronaut. :D

Catfish
04-16-21, 05:23 AM
What if it's not your decision.. and the name's not astronauts.

Dowly
04-16-21, 12:27 PM
B?


The shapes and colors alternate, only B matches horizontally, vertically and diagonally.

Catfish
04-16-21, 12:52 PM
While i posted it should be 'b', there would be another possibility.

Making the case for 'd' it is the only one that has nothing in common with all others, which is also a solution in itself :hmmm:

Dowly
04-16-21, 01:34 PM
D was my other candidate before I noticed B lines up diagonally as well. Another thing I noticed just now about B is that all the corners of the center piece supplement the shape and colors it touches outside of it.


i.e. if you put B in the center, the top left shape is black triangle. To the left of it is a light grey triangle, diagonally there's a white triangle and upwards there's a grey triangle. All four colors are touching. This is the same for the other corners of the center B.
https://i.imgur.com/s42gnum.jpg

So that's four things going for it being B. I think I'm ready to place my bet. :yep:

Catfish
04-16-21, 01:52 PM
Accepted .. was there already a finnish astronaut?
:up:

Dowly
04-16-21, 02:38 PM
Nah, just one with Finnish ancestry; Tim Kopra. (our media of course made a big deal about it, small country issues.)

vienna
04-16-21, 04:56 PM
D was my other candidate before I noticed B lines up diagonally as well. Another thing I noticed just now about B is that all the corners of the center piece supplement the shape and colors it touches outside of it.


i.e. if you put B in the center, the top left shape is black triangle. To the left of it is a light grey triangle, diagonally there's a white triangle and upwards there's a grey triangle. All four colors are touching. This is the same for the other corners of the center B.
https://i.imgur.com/s42gnum.jpg

So that's four things going for it being B. I think I'm ready to place my bet. :yep:



That was basically the same reasoning I used for my answer; I was looking for a symmetry of pattern in the puzzle and the only one I could immediately see was, if "B" was inserted into the center, there was a grouping of the four shapes, all with the same pattern of shadings, in the same order.; I didn't even consider diagonal relationships...


As far as taking my reasoning to my grave, well, hyperbole...


...and I also have no desire to be an astronaut; I have enough difficulty getting across town on the bus...




<O>

mapuc
04-16-21, 05:00 PM
I can tell you that it demands a lot and I mean a lot more than getting these IQ test correct to become an astronaut.

Markus

August
04-16-21, 05:22 PM
While i posted it should be 'b', there would be another possibility.

Making the case for 'd' it is the only one that has nothing in common with all others, which is also a solution in itself :hmmm:


Yeah but D doesn't match the color pattern. All other squares have the same colors in each location, only the shapes change.

Platapus
04-17-21, 06:24 AM
B. The grid pattern is that the colors stay in the same places but all four shapes have to be different than the grids on either side. Only choice B meets both of those requirements, vertically, horizontally and diagonally.


Winner!


"the pattern mirrors adjacent shapes but in different colors."

Platapus
04-17-21, 06:25 AM
Number 2


https://i0.wp.com/bestlifeonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/esa-test-2.jpg?resize=500%2C501&ssl=1

August
04-17-21, 09:50 AM
Winner!


"the pattern mirrors adjacent shapes but in different colors."


You saying I ain't eloquent enough to be an Astronut? :)

August
04-17-21, 09:58 AM
Number 2


https://i0.wp.com/bestlifeonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/esa-test-2.jpg?resize=500%2C501&ssl=1


The three wheels in the middle seem to be a combination of larger, smaller and the same size as 1 & 2 so my guess would be A. As fast as wheel 1.

Platapus
04-17-21, 10:22 AM
Another wiener!!!


"wheels of same radius at start and end of the sequence will spin at the same speed."

Platapus
04-17-21, 10:23 AM
Last one


https://i2.wp.com/bestlifeonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/esa-test-3.jpg?resize=500%2C500&ssl=1

3catcircus
04-17-21, 10:30 AM
The three wheels in the middle seem to be a combination of larger, smaller and the same size as 1 & 2 so my guess would be A. As fast as wheel 1.

Visually and logically, same size wheels should rotate at the same speed when one is the driver and the other is driven by it. What complicates things is not knowing the sizes of the idler wheels, so you have to assume they will result in cancelling each other out or fool yourself into believing that they're going to have different angular speeds - unless you can do the math to prove it to yourself.

Easiest thing to do is to apply the law of gearing and assume each wheel is a gear with a single tooth, and then do the calcs for a compound gear train. Your result should match your gut instinct that both wheels that are the same size will spin at the same speed. But again - to do this you'll need to know the diameters of all the wheels.

August
04-17-21, 11:17 AM
Last one


https://i2.wp.com/bestlifeonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/esa-test-3.jpg?resize=500%2C500&ssl=1


I'm thinking it's B, the cylinder. An imaginary line running down the center axis would be equidistant from all surfaces. All the other choices would eventually run into a surface.



Visually and logically, same size wheels should rotate at the same speed when one is the driver and the other is driven by it. What complicates things is not knowing the sizes of the idler wheels, so you have to assume they will result in cancelling each other out or fool yourself into believing that they're going to have different angular speeds - unless you can do the math to prove it to yourself.

Easiest thing to do is to apply the law of gearing and assume each wheel is a gear with a single tooth, and then do the calcs for a compound gear train. Your result should match your gut instinct that both wheels that are the same size will spin at the same speed. But again - to do this you'll need to know the diameters of all the wheels.


I figure that since they didn't specify then it was a safe assumption.

3catcircus
04-17-21, 11:46 AM
Last one


https://i2.wp.com/bestlifeonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/esa-test-3.jpg?resize=500%2C500&ssl=1

I'm thinking it's the sphere. All points on the surface aimed towards and passing through the middle (i.e. center) will be equidistant since there is only one surface (well, a coplanar inner and outer surface joined by umbilics).

mapuc
04-17-21, 12:31 PM
Totally wrong comment in an interesting thread

Markus

Platapus
04-17-21, 01:26 PM
And a third winner!


I only got two our of three and one of those I got I just remembered from another article. :oops:

d@rk51d3
04-17-21, 04:22 PM
You saying I ain't eloquent enough to be an Astronut? :)

Maybe have to settle for “space cadet”. :D :up:

mapuc
04-17-21, 05:16 PM
In your next life you could always try to get admitted to the Star Fleet Academy
Well something similar.

No doubt in my mind...some day in the future, we will not have NASA, Russian, Chinese a.s.o. We will have on Organization.

Markus

Catfish
04-18-21, 06:23 AM
^ I agree, but without England i guess :O:

Seriously, be it a hard contact with some asteroid or a debatable what was called a "contact of the third kind", mankind will sooner or later have to come to terms with itself, with one mankind and an existence without artificial nations. There is of course the other "branch", the possibility of fading awy and dying out.
Before WW1 there were not even borders in the sense mankind has it today, clearly not an achievement.

August
04-18-21, 02:45 PM
Maybe have to settle for “space cadet”. :D :up:


:D Actually with the creation of the US Space Force that could become an official rank! :)

Catfish
04-18-21, 02:50 PM
Maybe have to settle for “space cadet”. :D :up:
"Would you like to know more?"

"Would you like to know more?" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdrjzE1SE58)

This is "Starship Troopers", not "Space Cadet" i know :O:

Platapus
04-18-21, 05:21 PM
Concerning Space Force, the general term is "Guardian".

E-1 through E-4 are referred to as Specialist (1,2, 3, 4)

After that it follows the Air Force rank names.

:nope:

I hope they kill this before it gets out of control.

Nothing wrong with a Unified Command of US Space Command like we used to have.

Having a Space Force now is like proposing an Air Force in 1907, in my opinion.

https://politicalpunchline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/space-force-dumb-idea.jpg

August
04-18-21, 06:59 PM
Concerning Space Force, the general term is "Guardian".


Yeah good luck with that guys! :03:


Having a Space Force now is like proposing an Air Force in 1907, in my opinion.


All due respect to Mark Kelly but there ain't no air in space, so the Navy, Marines, heck even the Army, have just as much claim to novelty of military space duty as the Air Dales.

3catcircus
04-19-21, 07:33 AM
Yeah good luck with that guys! :03:





All due respect to Mark Kelly but there ain't no air in space, so the Navy, Marines, heck even the Army, have just as much claim to novelty of military space duty as the Air Dales.

Funny. USN has a "Naval and Space Warfare command (aka SPAWAR) who are now called NAVWAR because of the new space cadet force.

Catfish
04-19-21, 07:37 AM
Space warfare, what else. So the US are not the good guys?

https://2009-2017.state.gov/t/isn/5181.htm