View Full Version : 10 dead after rampage at a Boulder Colorado supermarket
Commander Wallace
03-23-21, 07:15 AM
10 people have been killed including one police officer at a Boulder Colorado Supermarket.
Quote : A suspect is in custody, Boulder Police Chief Maris Herold said, but authorities did not share any information on his identity, the type of weapon used or any possible motive. It has been reported by authorities that the weapon used was an AR style rifle.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/23/us/boulder-colorado-shooting-tuesday/index.html
The fatal shooting at the King Soopers store comes less than a week after attacks with weapons left eight people dead.
The Police Officer who was killed, 51-year-old Eric Talley, was one of the first to respond to the scene.
Jimbuna
03-23-21, 07:36 AM
So tragic and senseless :nope:
Commander Wallace
03-23-21, 07:45 AM
So tragic and senseless :nope:
They always are. :nope:
Sad news-Followed it on CNN until bedtime.
I live under the Prime Directive-not pointing fingers or telling the Americans how things should be done.
I only pray that one day the Americans say ENOUGH.
Markus
Rockstar
03-23-21, 10:50 AM
What does enough mean? That we isolate and divide each other even further by pro-gun, anti-gun, religion, who has a more comprehensive plan than the last, politics, skin color, defining the 2nd amendment, origin, slogans, or by the political media personality we listen too? Isn't that what incidents like this always turns into? Hows that helped, feel free to speak up, anyone? In my opinion it doesnt it just perpetuates it.
Everyone speaks the language they grew up hearing as a child. The questions should revolve around what CAUSED him to act as he did. Couple that with mental instability what else can we expect to happen? In this world we live in there are individuals that do bad things and hurt people for a multitude of reasons. Do the continued arguments mentioned above stop any of it? Hell no it doesn't.
Maybe increase wages, better living conditions, economic security, less internet, less political divide, less war, less divisiveness, less strife in the news. Or maybe we can develop the technology and chip people or inject them with something that makes them more docile.
em2nought
03-23-21, 02:40 PM
So tragic and senseless :nope:
We let them lock us in our houses for a year without much fuss so we'll probably allow them to totally disarm us now too.
Hardigen
03-24-21, 06:27 PM
It,s the Families that remain who have the pain and sadness , what a waste so sad
Bad people do bad things. They've done so since the beginning of "civilization", and will continue long after we're dead.
Skybird
03-25-21, 04:49 AM
And the usual, experienced ritual begins...
As long as so many people, after these many, many incidents, still refuse to ask why in their society these things happen so very very often any way more often than in other civilised countries, my sympathy remains limited.
Wer nicht hören will, muß eben fühlen.
A culture gloryfying violenc, and media focussing on fear-raising sensationalism, create an emotional cultural climate that was well described and corfectly identified as a key answer in Bowling For Columbine. Violent neurotism.
3catcircus
03-25-21, 10:48 AM
And the usual, experienced ritual begins...
As long as so many people, after these many, many incidents, still refuse to ask why in their society these things happen so very very often any way more often than in other civilised countries, my sympathy remains limited.
Wer nicht hören will, muß eben fühlen.
A culture gloryfying violenc, and media focussing on fear-raising sensationalism, create an emotional cultural climate that was well described and corfectly identified as a key answer in Bowling For Columbine. Violent neurotism.
That would be true if it weren't for the fact that most gun owners are normal people without violent tendencies or mental illness who never engage in unlawful use of their firearms. Just like most knife owners or car owners.
It is very troubling that the media refuse to admit their complicity in encouraging people to go on a rampage with a firearm. They routinely publish the suspect's information, wedding their hands about the situation, and claim it's always white heterosexual men who commit these crimes. They were up in arms that the police refused to provide details on the suspect. They've completely ignored that the gunman in this case was a Syrian refugee who claimed that islamophobic people were after him. As soon as it turned out to not fit the media's narrative, they were not interested in his motivation.
They also rely upon statistics from countries where firearms are not legal, using circular logic - " see - they don't have any gun rampages in the UK!" completely ignoring that knifings, vehicular homicide, axe murders are at a record high in places such as the UK, Australia, etc. People bent on murder are going to commit murder, regardless of whether it is a gun, knife, or their bare hands.
One must ask - in other places where gun ownership is legal, what is the percentage of people who commit gun crimes? In those places, does the media sensationalize it and provide immortalization of the suspect like in the US?
Skybird
03-25-21, 11:06 AM
As I said, the usual ritual. Crocodile tears and the same old explanations.
The love to a politicians or a party is a lot stronger than the wish for a change
Markus
Mr Quatro
03-25-21, 12:07 PM
Shooters seem to breed shooters :o
Glad someone saw him before he could come out of the restroom :yep:
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/atlanta-man-arrested-6-guns-022852837.html
Atlanta man arrested with 6 guns, body armor at Publix grocery store
Two days after 10 people were murdered at a grocery store in Colorado, a man was arrested at an Atlanta supermarket with a semiautomatic rifle, a shotgun and four handguns. The man also was wearing body armor and had a cache of ammunition, according to police.
Atlanta police identified the suspect as Rico Marley, 22, and said he'd been charged with reckless conduct.
The incident happened at about 1:30 p.m. when a witness saw Marley allegedly enter the Publix grocery store's bathroom with a cache of weaponry. The individual called police and the suspect was arrested when he left the bathroom, law enforcement said.
No shots were fired and no one was injured in the incident.
Jeff-Groves
03-25-21, 02:49 PM
I travel A LOT. And I sometimes wear my Body Armour depending on the area I must travel in.
Now I don't go carting Fire Arms with me but still.
Am I to be suspect now even though I am using my right to protect myself in a NON-VIOLENT way?
:doh:
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1069&pictureid=10835
I travel A LOT. And I sometimes wear my Body Armour depending on the area I must travel in.
Now I don't go carting Fire Arms with me but still.
Am I to be suspect now even though I am using my right to protect myself in a NON-VIOLENT way?
:doh:
I think it's apparent that the jackbooted thugs now running our country don't want you to have the means to defend yourself at all.
I think it's apparent that the jackbooted thugs now running our country don't want you to have the means to defend yourself at all.
I don't think Biden or any other politicians will prevent you from owning a gun, what I think he and the rest is interesting in is preventing you from owning big guns like a 16-inch guns(I know no one could carry around with such a gun)
But I hope you understod what I meant.
Markus
Rockstar
03-25-21, 04:01 PM
I travel A LOT. And I sometimes wear my Body Armour depending on the area I must travel in.
Now I don't go carting Fire Arms with me but still.
Am I to be suspect now even though I am using my right to protect myself in a NON-VIOLENT way?
:doh:
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1069&pictureid=10835
It might be helpful if you stenciled 'SJ' on your shirt and sported a cape. Then everyone will know you're a real superhero protecting us from villainy instead of some nut case that ought to be restrained and institutionalized . Super Jeff to the rescue!
I'm guessing this is your secret identity?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExSYIODWQAAa7Q0?format=jpg&name=small
I don't think Biden or any other politicians will prevent you from owning a gun, what I think he and the rest is interesting in is preventing you from owning big guns like a 16-inch guns(I know no one could carry around with such a gun)
But I hope you understod what I meant.
Markus
Not really Markus. You may believe otherwise but he's directly calling for gun bans. Not some naval cannon either (which BTW I'm pretty sure is still legal to own) but rather firearms currently owned by millions of Americans.
Jeff-Groves
03-25-21, 04:25 PM
LOL!
I ain't out to rescue anyone. As an example of my job sites.
Atlanta, Georgia.
Several workers were leaving the building and on the sidewalk which is like 3 foot from the door?
They were robbed at Gun Point!
Norfolk, Virginia.
As a friend and I sat on the tail gate of his truck a Guy approached and pulled a knife demanding money.
My friend calmly told him:
"You don't want me to pull my hand out of my jacket. If I do? You'll be sorry."
The Guy left. Yes. My Friend had a fully loaded 38 in his pocket.
Cleveland, Ohio.
As I left a store a Guy approached me. He pulled a knife and demanded my money. I told him I don't carry cash just a debt card.
He attempted to stab me but the body armour stopped any wounds to me.
He was not so lucky as the 12 pack in a bag did some serious damage to his face!
Columbus, Ohio.
A job site had been robbed several times. Even the car the Security Company had on site was stolen twice! Leaving one day a young kid tried to rob me with a knife.
He saw my body armour and hesitated. At that point I pulled my 9mm on him. He walked away as did I.
I'm NOT a Super Hero. But I'll be damned if I die doing anything less then fighting for my right to live!
Not really Markus. You may believe otherwise but he's directly calling for gun bans. Not some naval cannon either (which BTW I'm pretty sure is still legal to own) but rather firearms currently owned by millions of Americans.
Have never claimed to be an expert on American politics and its federal laws far from it.
Isn't there some kind of chain of decision before an amendment can't be changed or erased ? Isn't there some rule what, where and who before the politicians can make changes in these amendment ?
Why I ask is, as I read your comment Biden & Co will try to totally ban the right to wear a gun even a single handgun.
Can he/they do so without violating an amendment ?
Markus
Jeff-Groves
03-25-21, 05:14 PM
I'm guessing this is your secret identity?
Nope.
This is my secret Identity!
http://i.imgur.com/1WIQ9fW.jpg
Catfish
03-25-21, 05:29 PM
^ :D
[...] Why I ask is, as I read your comment Biden & Co will try to totally ban the right to wear a gun even a single handgun.
Can he/they do so without violating an amendment ? Markus
Of course he cannot. But it's the same argument against presidents the right does not like, same with the "thoughts and prayers" crocodile tears after the shootings.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4318286/
This is an in-depth article, discussing the current theories and it does not even say that gun owning should be forbidden. "[...] gun control in itself would be ineffective at stopping gun crime [...]"
However if you really want to change something you need the political will, and you will most probably never have the majority to ban guns in the US.
If you only want the conclusions they are pretty much at the end of the article, but i found it worth reading.
Why I ask is, as I read your comment Biden & Co will try to totally ban the right to wear a gun even a single handgun.
Can he/they do so without violating an amendment ?
Markus
I didn't say anything about handguns Markus but the Democrats have gone to great lengths to make our Constitution not worth the paper it was written on. All of our supposedly constitutionally guaranteed freedoms are being redefined into irrelevancy.
Torpex77
03-25-21, 06:05 PM
Removing any Gun from the Legal right of ownership is no more logical than removing pneumatic tires after a car crashes and kills 5 people after a Blowout. Tens of Millions of tires function properly daily, just as tens of millions of regular gun owners.
This is a terrible tragedy and I wish they would stop standing on dead bodies to further a political agenda. High Power Guns have been available to the Public for over 70 years!
Look at Society, degrading family values, general disrespect for human life for the Source of the problem, after all how is it my generation didnt behave like this or the Generation before me? Yes there were a few incidents but damn few.
Torpex77
03-25-21, 06:07 PM
I think it's apparent that the jackbooted thugs now running our country don't want you to have the means to defend yourself at all.
Your Spot on! I would say the Communists who left Russia and took up shop here in the US want the US to Be the next USSR
Commander Wallace
03-25-21, 06:30 PM
Have never claimed to be an expert on American politics and its federal laws far from it.
Isn't there some kind of chain of decision before an amendment can't be changed or erased ? Isn't there some rule what, where and who before the politicians can make changes in these amendment ?
Why I ask is, as I read your comment Biden & Co will try to totally ban the right to wear a gun even a single handgun.
Can he/they do so without violating an amendment ?
Markus
You don't need to be from the U.S or an expert on U.S affairs to ask reasonable questions, Markus. In fact, not being from the U.S may well give you a unique perspective on the happenings here.
August has suggested that the Democrats don't want the U.S citizenry to have the ability to defend themselves. In fact, It's a Democratic agenda to completely disarm the American citizenry and deny them access to anything even resembling a weapon.
Authorities have revealed that Boulder Colorado shooting suspect, Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa has a history of mental illness and anti social behavior. This has long been the problem and what needs to be addressed, not the responsible people and individuals who make up the majority of gun ownership.
Jeff had mentioned some close calls he and his friend had. Thankfully, everything worked out in his favor. Another happy ending, brought to you, courtesy of the second amendment. My only question is did the beer in the bag survive the encounter ? :03:
Rockstar
03-25-21, 07:06 PM
Nope.
This is my secret Identity!
http://i.imgur.com/1WIQ9fW.jpg
egads, its pretty clear what bars,,, err I mean, job sites you hang out at. :D
You'd think a chain mail codpiece would be a mite pinchy... :hmmm:
Jimbuna
03-27-21, 08:57 AM
Nope.
This is my secret Identity!
http://i.imgur.com/1WIQ9fW.jpg
I was seriously thinking of posting that picture until I read your post :)
Jeff-Groves
03-27-21, 11:42 AM
I'm wondering if Toxoplasmosis is to blame in some cases of mass shooting.
:hmmm:
I'm wondering if Toxoplasmosis is to blame in some cases of mass shooting.
:hmmm:
LOL , Something Dr. Fauci should be heads up on and tell the whole United States about this weekend on all the Networks. Sounds plausible to me. Or the media could tell the truth these people were killed by a racist Muslim.Not by any white racist group as the Socialist and their media lackeys first claimed. Hell it was a while before you could see the pictures of those he had killed. Maybe Toxoplasmosis exists in the immigrants we let into our country.
I travel A LOT. And I sometimes wear my Body Armour depending on the area I must travel in.
Now I don't go carting Fire Arms with me but still.
Am I to be suspect now even though I am using my right to protect myself in a NON-VIOLENT way?
:doh:
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1069&pictureid=10835
If i was Antifa,I would try and stick my pointed bamboo flag holder right thru the left eyepiece of those shades.
If i was Antifa,I would try and stick my pointed bamboo flag holder right thru the left eyepiece of those shades.
Look at the Dude Dude! It'd probably be the last time you used that hand.
Look at the Dude Dude! It'd probably be the last time you used that hand.
I think against that dummy he has dressed up id be ok. it doesn't have his ears , hard to hide ears of his age
Moonlight
03-28-21, 07:23 AM
If i was Antifa,I would try and stick my pointed bamboo flag holder right thru the left eyepiece of those shades.
I'd refrain from using fighting talk like that until you see all of the image first, usually people dressed like that have got a vicious killer dog or something to back them up.
Yep, a Chihuahua with a couple of grenades strapped to their backs are bleeding lethal, I'd use the old but trusted Green Cross Code if I were you, it's a short step-by-step procedure designed to enable pedestrians to live a bit longer. While the Code has undergone several changes over the years, the basic tenets are "Stop, Look, Listen, Think" or "Stop Look Listen Live".
It's your choice though. :haha:
3catcircus
03-28-21, 09:30 AM
I'd refrain from using fighting talk like that until you see all of the image first, usually people dressed like that have got a vicious killer dog or something to back them up.
Yep, a Chihuahua with a couple of grenades strapped to their backs are bleeding lethal, I'd use the old but trusted Green Cross Code if I were you, it's a short step-by-step procedure designed to enable pedestrians to live a bit longer. While the Code has undergone several changes over the years, the basic tenets are "Stop, Look, Listen, Think" or "Stop Look Listen Live".
It's your choice though. :haha:
I can't speak to Europe, but here in the US, it seems the majority of antifa tend to attack easy targets who can't defend themselves. The moment they pick the wrong person to need with, they go crying to the police that they hate to protect them.
Just saw a video of some antifa turd attack a woman and then proceed to get a mudhole stomped into his backside by some big Samoan-looking guy.
I'm of the opinion that local PDs should be issuing orders to give them all a good dose of wooden shampoo. And if they meet ANYTHING that could be considered lethal weapons, they shoot to kill.
People with common sense know the difference between peaceful protest and violent rioters.
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