Base GWX3.0 crashing

[LuteFlute]

Hey everyone, I'm new around here, and just discovered the joy of SH3, coming from U-BOAT, the gameplay and features in SH3 are awesome (thanks to the mods)

Anyways, I've been playing SH3 (steam version) for the past 3 days with this mod setup, and have never got it to work flawlessly https://pasteboard.co/JSVbeJj.png
It would crash towards the end of loading the menu or a mission (from the port or save). The thing is, sometimes I am able to load fine and pray to god it works from thereon. It also turns out that in-game it does crash sometimes, (noticed this occurs usually around the bay of northern France, Belgium, and the Netherlands, could be just a coincidence) which finally broke me, as I just couldn't progress anymore.

As such, I tried to do a fresh installation (deleted everything SH3 related) to try and test each mod one by one (should have done this before I know...). I tried out SH3 with just GWX 3.0 and :wah: yup, still crashes. I'm lost, if anyone, got any other ideas, I'll gladly listen. Anyways, I'm gonna go to bed as it's late, and trying to fix this has been driving me crazy. Sidenote: crashes could be from my RAM sticks, as they are iffy for some games, so I'll test this out and update this thread with the results after I wake up.

Thanks!

EDIT: Unfortunately (or fortunately for the sticks themselves) the tested RAM sticks also crash.

[John Pancoast]

Hey everyone, I'm new around here, and just discovered the joy of SH3, coming from U-BOAT, the gameplay and features in SH3 are awesome (thanks to the mods)

Anyways, I've been playing SH3 (steam version) for the past 3 days with this mod setup, and have never got it to work flawlessly https://pasteboard.co/JSVbeJj.png
It would crash towards the end of loading the menu or a mission (from the port or save). The thing is, sometimes I am able to load fine and pray to god it works from thereon. It also turns out that in-game it does crash sometimes, (noticed this occurs usually around the bay of northern France, Belgium, and the Netherlands, could be just a coincidence) which finally broke me, as I just couldn't progress anymore.

As such, I tried to do a fresh installation (deleted everything SH3 related) to try and test each mod one by one (should have done this before I know...). I tried out SH3 with just GWX 3.0 and :wah: yup, still crashes. I'm lost, if anyone, got any other ideas, I'll gladly listen. Anyways, I'm gonna go to bed as it's late, and trying to fix this has been driving me crazy. Sidenote: crashes could be from my RAM sticks, as they are iffy for some games, so I'll test this out and update this thread with the results after I wake up.

Thanks!

In terms of your mod list, the TKSS u-boats and the ARB gui eat up memory.
In terms of saves some general SH3 rules to prevent corrupt saves/ctds.
- only save on the surface.
- only save when 50km or more from land and/or other ships.
- I've had the best luck saving from the navigation map screen.
If any of your saves have "broke" these guidelines, your save may be corrupted causing even base GWX to ctd in which case a re-install is advised.

[Aktungbby]

LuteFlute!:Kaleun_Salute:

[LuteFlute]

In terms of your mod list, the TKSS u-boats and the ARB gui eat up memory.
In terms of saves some general SH3 rules to prevent corrupt saves/ctds.
- only save on the surface.
- only save when 50km or more from land and/or other ships.
- I've had the best luck saving from the navigation map screen.
If any of your saves have "broke" these guidelines, your save may be corrupted causing even base GWX to ctd in which case a re-install is advised.

All right, thanks for the general info on how to use SH3, especially with the saves. I think I should have enough memory, 16gb. Also, I have reinstalled GWX as a base to no avail, which is the reason why I am confused.

[John Pancoast]

All right, thanks for the general info on how to use SH3, especially with the saves. I think I should have enough memory, 16gb. Also, I have reinstalled GWX as a base to no avail, which is the reason why I am confused.

The saves are kept separate from the game in path "drive\my documents\gwx" or whatever is similar for your OS. That (entire folder) needs to be deleted too before a re-install.
That may be causing the current problems.

[Jeff-Groves]

I'd suggest patching the SH3.exe to use more RAM.
Then make sure you set compatibility mode.

Also. I'd copy a clean install from Steam to a different folder outside of the Program files areas then add GWX and the 4 GIG patch.

[LuteFlute]

The saves are kept separate from the game in path "drive\my documents\gwx" or whatever is similar for your OS. That (entire folder) needs to be deleted too before a re-install.
That may be causing the current problems.

Odd, I don't see any file "gwx" file, anywhere. I have however found several posts (steam and subsim) indicating that SH3 needs to be run on administrator mode, but more important Win XP sp2, and those guys have the same symptoms I am having. I'm also reinstalling GWX 3.0 as the FullSingleInstaller which people seem to use more, as I used the 7part file installer before. Just gonna shotgun all these ideas, and hope one of em works.

[LuteFlute]

LuteFlute!:Kaleun_Salute:

:Kaleun_Salute: Thanks Aktungbby!

[Jeff-Groves]

The Steam install seems to be causing a lot of trouble as of late.
I don't use Steam but try to help since I wrote the GWX 3 installer.

I run as WinXP service pack 3

I use Windows 7

[LuteFlute]

The Steam install seems to be causing a lot of trouble as of late.
I don't use Steam but try to help since I wrote the GWX 3 installer.

I'll let you know how things go, as this GWX 3.0 file type is barely being seeded. should be finished in around 1 - 2 hours.

[Jeff-Groves]

This is the FULL install directly from the one who wrote it!
https://www.mediafire.com/file/a0w344v8h56b1h0/GWX3_Full.exe/file

:up:

[LuteFlute]

There's too many versions from too many places, I'm currently just downloading the one labeled "GWX3.fullsingleinstallexe.torrent" from http://www.thegreywolves.com/downloads/

[Jeff-Groves]

Yep. That's a good one.
My link is the ORIGINAL that all copies came from.

You are welcome to ask around about me if you wish.

[John Pancoast]

Jeff will set you straight. Very knowledgable. :salute:

[LuteFlute]

I believe you Jeff, not questioning your knowledge or anything, was just remarking as to how over the past 10 years, so many versions of GWX 3.0 have been uploaded to different places, that every other mod I download makes me question if this is the correct one, lol.

[LuteFlute]

Welp, I'm out of ideas, still crashing even after using a different GWX 3.0 installer, and running it in administration mode, and win xps2/3.

[Jeff-Groves]

I understand Mate.
And don't blame you for being cautious. Smart on your part.
My link will always be there in case you ever need it.
:salute:

[Jeff-Groves]

Welp, I'm out of ideas, still crashing even after using a different GWX 3.0 installer, and running it in administration mode, and win xps2/3.
Can you give details on Hardware, software, and such?
the more info the better We can try to help.

Install path of SH3 also.

[blackswan40]

Hi LuteFute sorry to hear your having trouble with Your Steam install of SH3/GWX
same for me and Onkel Neal Stevens C-in-C Subsim also ive reinstalled my steam version of SH3 it works fine.

But when i place the 7 GWX bins files and the GWX.Exe it installs but when GWX fires up it is Paused and i cant unpause it Grrr.
My steam install is installed in Program Files X86 so uninstalled steam and reinstalled on drive C:/ outside Program Files X86 then reinstalled SH3 and GWX still same result looks like steam version of SH3 dont like you moding it any more.
But theres another option i can send you two copies of SH3 on Dvd copied from this original below PM me your home address and ill post you the discs Thursday Sir the dvd's are starforce free

@Subsim the Pride runs deep we look after our own Salute
Sent 2 copies to Doolar three weeks ago he got them Monday


https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1230&pictureid=11186

[Jeff-Groves]

If you are correct on the problem with Steam?
I'll figure it out with some help.
:up:

[LuteFlute]

Can you give details on Hardware, software, and such?
the more info the better We can try to help.

Install path of SH3 also.

CPU: i5-7600k
RAM: 16gb 2400mhz DDR4
GPU: RTX 2070 Super
Mobo: Asus z270-H
OS: Windows 10 x64 Home

These are the basics I can think off the top of my head.

[Jeff-Groves]

You have the hardware easily.
Checking with others on some information to solve this issue.

[LuteFlute]

Hi LuteFute sorry to hear your having trouble with Your Steam install of SH3/GWX
same for me and Onkel Neal Stevens C-in-C Subsim also ive reinstalled my steam version of SH3 it works fine.

But when i place the 7 GWX bins files and the GWX.Exe it installs but when GWX fires up it is Paused and i cant unpause it Grrr.
My steam install is installed in Program Files X86 so uninstalled steam and reinstalled on drive C:/ outside Program Files X86 then reinstalled SH3 and GWX still same result looks like steam version of SH3 dont like you moding it any more.
But theres another option i can send you two copies of SH3 on Dvd copied from this original below PM me your home address and ill post you the discs Thursday Sir the dvd's are starforce free

@Subsim the Pride runs deep we look after our own Salute
Sent 2 copies to Doolar three weeks ago he got them Monday


https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1230&pictureid=11186

Thanks, I'll take you up on your offer if it really comes down to it, cause I'm certain there are people out there who are running fine, and the shipping fees on my end will be around 10 -15$ :P

[Jeff-Groves]

Recent installs on Steam versions seem to be causing issues.
I am looking closely at the problem.
If it comes down to it? I'll install Steam and find a solution.

Never did trust those people at Steam!

[LuteFlute]

Recent installs on Steam versions seem to be causing issues.
I am looking closely at the problem.
If it comes down to it? I'll install Steam and find a solution.

Never did trust those people at Steam!

Steam tends to have trouble sometimes with old games, pair that with Windows 10, and old games get confused as to where they are.

[John Pancoast]

I believe you Jeff, not questioning your knowledge or anything, was just remarking as to how over the past 10 years, so many versions of GWX 3.0 have been uploaded to different places, that every other mod I download makes me question if this is the correct one, lol.
http://www.thegreywolves.com/

[LuteFlute]

Unfortunately yeah, this is looking like a steam issue, I just tried it on another computer (My MacBook pro 2018 on Bootcamp), and it still crashed. One thing I haven't tried yet is removing SH3 out of Program Files (x86), however, Steam doesn't like letting its users play the game when they are out of their directory given by steam.

[LuteFlute]

Recent installs on Steam versions seem to be causing issues.
I am looking closely at the problem.
If it comes down to it? I'll install Steam and find a solution.

Never did trust those people at Steam!

Hey Jeff, I did some more searching and found this thread, I might have to go soon, and if so, I'll try it out in around 8 hours, if not, then you should see another post from me within the hour

http://www.donitzeliteflotilla.com/forum/index.php?topic=2838

[LuteFlute]

Hey Jeff, I did some more searching and found this thread, I might have to go soon, and if so, I'll try it out in around 8 hours, if not, then you should see another post from me within the hour

http://www.donitzeliteflotilla.com/forum/index.php?topic=2838


Welp, once more, no dice, I kept fiddling with this install method for 4 hours. Did it a total of four times on two computers to be sure, and it still crashes. Unfortunately, it was a waste of time. I'm gonna call it a day, and that physical copy offer blackswan42 is looking quite eye-catching:yep:. Darn you steam.

[Jeff-Groves]

blackswan40 sent me the Steam Silent Hunter 3 folder.
Of course it will not run on my system since I don't have Steam.
Now. I replaced the SH3.exe with a non-Steam version and it runs fine.
Downloading the GWX installer from my link above and will test that next.

I have 1 question for Steam Users.
In the base folder of SH3 is there another folder named SH3?
If so dig into that and see if there is a main.cfg

[blackswan40]

Hi Jeff yes Sir there is both screenies to follow

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1230&pictureid=11870


https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1230&pictureid=11871

[Mad Mardigan]

blackswan40 sent me the Steam Silent Hunter 3 folder.
Of course it will not run on my system since I don't have Steam.
Now. I replaced the SH3.exe with a non-Steam version and it runs fine.
Downloading the GWX installer from my link above and will test that next.

I have 1 question for Steam Users.
In the base folder of SH3 is there another folder named SH3?
If so dig into that and see if there is a main.cfg

Ahoy, Jeff-Groves... :Kaleun_Cheers:

Paid for access for SH3, 4 & 5... got them in a 3 for 1 deal, Steam had some time back (paid like.. $21 usd).. I did use SFSF to, divorce SH3 from Steam. I did run a check of that copy I have of it & yeah, there is a folder in the main, titled 'SH3', digging into it, Yes, there is a .cfg titled 'main'.

M. M.

:Kaleun_Salute:

[Jeff-Groves]

OK.
Look in the cfg folder under Silent Hunter 3/data folder.
Is there a main.cfg in it?
It must be a stock unmodded Steam install!

[blackswan40]

yes Jeff the second screenie taken from the SH3 Folder screenie of whats in main

Steam/Steam Apps/Common/SilentHunter3/SH3/Data/Config/Main


if you download teamviewer you are free to look at Steam/SH3 on my system Jeff link below


https://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/windows/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=gb%7Cb%7Crm%7C20%7Cjun%7Cexact-brand-combi-sn%7Cfree%7Ct1%7C0&utm_content=exact_brand_combi_downloads&utm_term=teamviewer+download&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIufO3q9S37wIVQZ7tCh0IGAb6EAAYASAA EgJp5vD_BwE

[Jeff-Groves]

Check
Steam/Steam Apps/Common/SilentHunter3/Data/Cfg
Is there a main.cfg in there?

It's not in the version you sent me.
I'd like verification from someone else.

I'd like to know WHY that SH3 folder is there.
IF you have Steam SH3 and installed GWX? Move the main.cfg to that odd ball folder and remove it from the Data\cfg folder and test.

[blackswan40]

Hi Jeff thats a complete new install of Steam on drive C:/not in program files x86 and only the Steam Version of SH3 no mods

[Jeff-Groves]

Roger Mate!
:salute:

Installed GWX to the SH3 blackswan40 sent me.
Only replaced the SH3.exe and it runs fine!

So Steam did something to screw the pooch!

[blackswan40]

Hi Jeff Onkel Neal so can i upload my SH3 Exe. from my Dvd install so all the SH3 steam players can mod there SH3 steam install
or i could upload it to my mediafire account and post a download link if thats ok.


thats what i thought Jeff because last Oct/Nov i installed SH3 from Steam installed GWX on my old intel 7700k it worked no sweat then installed the Commander mod just below SH3 in Steam Apps Common and the Commander mod Config and it worked like a dream now its 6 eggs short of a dozen so to speak.
What are steam thinking even new guys downloading the Steam version of SH3 for first time will be moding it at some point theres better ways to keep a chin up not allowing guys/girls to mod the SH3 install is a bad judgement call from steam sales will drop off

[Jeff-Groves]

That may be on option as Ubi does not care as stated before.
:03:

I'd like to test a few things first.

Have to make a run so I'll be back in a bit.

[LuteFlute]

Sorry to be a bit late in the issue, but just to confirm, I also have the same situation on the base steam install. There is indeed a main file in Silent Hunter 3\SH3\data\ and Silent Hunter 3\data\Cfg. And if I'm correct, what I'm getting from the exchanges above is that the sh3.exe file itself has been changed in some way in steams version, and recently too. Probably explains why some people had success years ago, but never really saw people have problems about it a few months ago. as blackswan40 said, why would steam go out of there to "update" that doesn't need one. Boggles my mind.

[blackswan40]

Hi LuteFlute you have a PM Sir

[LuteFlute]

hey blackswan40, was able to H.sie patch it, ARB WideGUI patch it, then just switch the .exe files. So far the game has been running smoothly for about 30 minutes and so far looks good. Good to note also is that I also am running it with the modlist I showed earlier.

[blackswan40]

glad your sorted Sir happy hunting

[Jeff-Groves]

I've got a Patch nearly ready that will patch the SH3.exe in Steam.
It is way smaller and safer then sending the SH3.exe to everyone.
:up:

[blackswan40]

Great Jeff :Kaleun_Salute:

[Jeff-Groves]

Patch uploaded here.

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2737210&postcount=7355

[LuteFlute]

Patch uploaded here.

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2737210&postcount=7355

Thanks for the patch Jeff! Hopefully others in the future find this post.

[blackswan40]

SHIII on Steam is £1.07 75% off wonder if after the sale ends its going tobe discontinued on Steam