View Full Version : The 7 minutes of Martian terror
Rockstar
02-12-21, 02:07 PM
On the 18th of February NASA's Perseverance Rover attempts most dangerous Mars landing yet. One of goals of this mission is to store samples for later missions to collect and bring back to earth. Hope it works out and lands in one piece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4tdMR5HLtg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm0b_ijaYMQ
Going to be a great year for space exploration. :up:
Hopefully the James Webb telescope gets up there this year as planned. :yep:
Rockstar
02-16-21, 07:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH2tKigOPBU
Rockstar
02-18-21, 11:24 AM
Going live in a few hours.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIooAx_GkJs
Von Due
02-18-21, 12:06 PM
Thanks for this thread! I know I will be glued to the monitor in a couple of hours
Rockstar
02-18-21, 03:38 PM
1 minute to go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm0b_ijaYMQ
Rockstar
02-18-21, 03:56 PM
It made it!
Rockstar
02-18-21, 04:00 PM
Sending images too!
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Von Due
02-18-21, 04:03 PM
Absolutely amazing! Congratulations to everyone who worked and still work on this. :Kaleun_Salute:
Skybird
02-18-21, 04:15 PM
Three successful landings within just a couple of days, no fails, 3:0! An acchievement!
Von Due
02-18-21, 04:23 PM
Three successful landings within just a couple of days, no fails, 3:0! An acchievement!
If they keep this up, they will need to send over traffic lights soon!
u crank
02-18-21, 04:59 PM
I like it when they all jump up and cheer.
:yeah:
I missed it....:Kaleun_Crying:
Markus
Rockstar
02-18-21, 07:12 PM
You didn't miss too much, just a lot of tension, suspense and anxiety followed by sudden relief, cheering and congratulations. I think one of things which makes this mission different from others is they said they'll eventually have video and audio of the descent. They even sent a drone they can fly too.
Hope they captured some good video while that puppy was speeding along 5.3 kilometers per second. :yep:
Jimbuna
02-19-21, 09:13 AM
Watched it on tv and found it as fascinating as that first first moon landing all those years ago.
Rockstar
02-19-21, 10:09 AM
Watched it on tv and found it as fascinating as that first first moon landing all those years ago.
What got me was the idea that what was going to happen had already happened. By the time JPL received information Perseverance was at atmosphere interface. It was in reality already either on the ground safely or scatter in a million pieces. That 12 minute delay was stressing me out.
What got me was the idea that what was going to happen had already happened. By the time JPL received information Perseverance was at atmosphere interface. It was in reality already either on the ground safely or scatter in a million pieces. That 12 minute delay was stressing me out.
You were stressed. I can imagine the groundcrew at JPL and NASA was a lot more stressed.
I'm in a marathon watching of Star Trek-TOS, TNG, Voy. DS9, disc. and the movies in this sequence. Have just watched TNG s2 ep.17.
One day in the future we will exploring the milky way with space craft which can travel with very high speed-Maybe not warp-but near warp
Markus
Jimbuna
02-19-21, 10:32 AM
What got me was the idea that what was going to happen had already happened. By the time JPL received information Perseverance was at atmosphere interface. It was in reality already either on the ground safely or scatter in a million pieces. That 12 minute delay was stressing me out.
I know what you mean but until we develop quicker ways of communicating over great distances we are where we are at.
Where's Kirk or Spock when you need them?
Von Due
02-19-21, 10:38 AM
One day in the future we will exploring the milky way with space craft which can travel with very high speed-Maybe not warp-but near warp
That's the snag. Unless we do stumble across some fundamentally new physics that allows faster than light travel, moving from one end of the milky way to the other will take more than 100,000 years. If we do manage to move across the milky way at light speed, there are other problems like you arriving a few years older but your kids back home died of old age centuries or millennias ago.
Onkel Neal
02-19-21, 10:45 AM
I'm looking fwd to seeing the video it captured during landing. What an engineering feat.
Rockstar
02-19-21, 01:28 PM
I know what you mean but until we develop quicker ways of communicating over great distances we are where we are at.
Where's Kirk or Spock when you need them?
Who needs Kirk and Spock when we have Northrop Grumman. Seems they're working on LASER communication systems as we speak.
Who needs Kirk and Spock when we have Northrop Grumman. Seems they're working on LASER communication systems as we speak.
Who knows, we may have subspace communication one day in the future.
Markus
Buddahaid
02-19-21, 01:57 PM
Who needs Kirk and Spock when we have Northrop Grumman. Seems they're working on LASER communication systems as we speak.
It's still limited by the speed of light.
Btw, anyone else got their name to go to Mars with Perseverance? :salute:
https://i.ibb.co/Qnfvffj/Boarding-Pass-My-Name-On-Mars2020.jpg
Rockstar
02-19-21, 04:43 PM
I missed out on this one. But I'm signed up for the July 2026 mission
Jeff-Groves
02-19-21, 05:50 PM
Btw, anyone else got their name to go to Mars with Perseverance? :salute:
https://i.ibb.co/Qnfvffj/Boarding-Pass-My-Name-On-Mars2020.jpg
WTF?
:o
You saying those were for sale and you didn't tell us?
Guess the best I can counter with is having my name on a Land Speed Record Breaker.
That stood for 16 years from 1990 to 2006!
Now beat this!!! I can walk on the exact same land where that record was set and have done so 3 times!
And I didn't need a Space Suit! :smug:
I get the feeling that science and space interested people only think on what we have now and what's in the pipeline/in development.
I try think 50-100-150 year a.s.o ahead.
I'm pretty sure we will have following within the next 50 years from now.
Phaser-Today we have Taser which will be developed into a phaser
Replicator(none food) Instead of ordering things from online store-we buy and then our replicator build it.
Laser-Well this is nothing new, but I'm convinced that in 50 years from now our military will have almost Star Trek like laser/phaser as main weapon.
Diseases - We may get rid of some and find antidote against others, while new will appear.
Flying cars-It's only a matter of time before this will be an ordinary sight.
Computer-If we within the next 50 years will have developed a quantum computer and if it will be each man's property I can't say.
And many other things
Markus
Von Due
02-19-21, 06:45 PM
I get the feeling that science and space interested people only think on what we have now and what's in the pipeline/in development.
I try think 50-100-150 year a.s.o ahead.
I'm pretty sure we will have following within the next 50 years from now.
Phaser-Today we have Taser which will be developed into a phaser
Replicator(none food) Instead of ordering things from online store-we buy and then our replicator build it.
Laser-Well this is nothing new, but I'm convinced that in 50 years from now our military will have almost Star Trek like laser/phaser as main weapon.
Diseases - We may get rid of some and find antidote against others, while new will appear.
Flying cars-It's only a matter of time before this will be an ordinary sight.
Computer-If we within the next 50 years will have developed a quantum computer and if it will be each man's property I can't say.
And many other things
Markus
“Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future!”
It is true that our understanding of nature has changed radically and suddenly at certain points in history. Newton was right until he wasn't, at least not all the time. Einstein's theories of relativity are being questioned, Copernicus was utterly wrong until we knew he was essentially right. The best theories we have today are, I'll borrow this one: "the best of bad ideas" meaning they are almost certainly not correct. They are just the best we have at the moment. It is entirely possible that our understanding of nature will be laughable at some point in the future. "Can you believe that? They actually believed in space-time!"
In fact, we have no reason to insist that an orange can not possibly spontaneously change into a ballerina. Noone has ever seen an orange change into any sort of dancer but there is nothing we know in science with certainty that strictly forbids it to happen. The best we can say is that it is so incredibly unlikely that looking into it is as close to a guaranteed waste of time as we can comprehend. Still, we can't outright dismiss the possibility... as a matter of principle of course.
Quantum mechanics and the theories of relativity are the most successful theories to date but we know for a fact they can not be entirely correct. The best of bad ideas. Noone knows what future physics is going to look like.
Flying cars have been a couple of decades into the future for about 100 years now. We dream, dreams drive us to discover new things. Dreams of space travel drove Tsiolkovsky to come up with the equations that allowed us to send this rover to Mars. Some dreams though, are old and still dreams.
Onkel Neal
02-19-21, 08:13 PM
Like this
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/210219130529-perservance-descent-image-exlarge-169.jpg
Rockstar
02-19-21, 08:23 PM
I like how they describe Perseverance as the 'cleanest' rover to go to Mars. Until then, it had never occurred to me previous missions were transporting microbes from Earth to the Red Planet.
Buddahaid
02-19-21, 09:43 PM
Btw, anyone else got their name to go to Mars with Perseverance? :salute:
https://i.ibb.co/Qnfvffj/Boarding-Pass-My-Name-On-Mars2020.jpg
No, but I think I did something similar before. Bells are ringing.....
WTF?
:o
You saying those were for sale and you didn't tell us?
Guess the best I can counter with is having my name on a Land Speed Record Breaker.
That stood for 16 years from 1990 to 2006!
Now beat this!!! I can walk on the exact same land where that record was set and have done so 3 times!
And I didn't need a Space Suit! :smug:
Are you talking about the guy that brought his Triumph motorcycle from England to the salt flats of Utah. My friend give us a little more to go on. And will you be in Daytona this year?
Jeff-Groves
02-20-21, 07:28 AM
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1069&pictureid=11811
Sailor Steve
02-20-21, 11:21 AM
When I first saw the title I thought it was going to be about the Orson Welles 'War of the Worlds ' radio play.
I missed it....:Kaleun_Crying:
Markus
Same here, though in my case I was in the middle of 24-hour sleep.
When I first saw the title I thought it was going to be about the Orson Welles 'War of the Worlds ' radio play.
Same here, though in my case I was in the middle of 24-hour sleep.
Our news channel had on several occasion days before the event told its viewer about it.
Watch the landing live from 21.30(9.30 pm) Said I'll remember it...well it was first around 22.30 I suddenly came to think of it.
Markus
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1069&pictureid=11811
Dave Campos on July 14 1990 at the Bonneville Salt Flats set a land speed record of 322.870 mph in that Harley Davidson powered streamliner. the names on the side are the sponsors. Your right i can't beat that. there's a good article on wikipedia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4czjS9h4Fpg
Catfish
02-23-21, 03:42 PM
Great footage :up:
Well done Nasa
Jimbuna
02-24-21, 07:31 AM
Yes, most enjoyable :sunny:
u crank
02-24-21, 09:02 AM
Longer and more detailed explanation of Perseverance landing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfgzTfw_J6o
Ingenuity has completed its first flight on Mars!
https://youtu.be/tm8HBIHdfOY?t=177
Catfish
04-22-21, 02:29 AM
First time oxygen is extracted from Mars atmosphere:
https://mars.nasa.gov/news/8926/nasas-perseverance-mars-rover-extracts-first-oxygen-from-red-planet/
Jimbuna
04-22-21, 12:14 PM
Seen it all before :O:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuCiiRDpbCk
Catfish
04-22-21, 03:20 PM
^ :rotfl2: this film
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