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Rockstar

02-03-21, 06:22 PM

The below article coming from one of the media outlets that without so much as raising a question followed the party line and propped up the Steel Dossier as if it was sent by god. What would help more is if the media actually did their job.

How the Biden Administration Can Help Solve Our Reality Crisis

These steps, experts say, could prod more people to abandon the scourge of hoaxes and lies.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/02/technology/biden-reality-crisis-misinformation.html

Early in life I have noticed that no event is ever correctly reported in a newspaper, but in Spain, for the first time, I saw newspaper reports which did not bear any relation to the facts, not even the relationship which is implied in an ordinary lie. I saw great battles reported where there had been no fighting, and complete silence where hundreds of men had been killed. I saw troops who had fought bravely denounced as cowards and traitors, and others who had never seen a shot fired hailed as the heroes of imaginary victories; and I saw newspapers in London retailing these lies and eager intellectuals building emotional superstructures over events that had never happened. I saw, in fact, history being written not in terms of what happened but of what ought to have happened according to various ‘party lines’.

George Orwell, Looking back on the Spanish War, Chapter 4

Kptlt. Neuerburg

02-03-21, 11:17 PM

I know just the man for the job!
https://i.postimg.cc/4xL3Nv8G/Adam-Savage-motivator-by-Raven-Gold.jpg

Catfish

02-04-21, 03:13 AM

^:har:

@ Rockstar some good ideas, but people want to live in their illusions and filter bubbles. You think bstanko wants reality or the truth?
They look for something that pleases them, then look for proof supporting the already fixed view, for enforcers and same-minded people and theories, no comparison, no critical thinking.

No one is immune to this, but the basic condition for a citizen who is more of a citoyen than a bourgeois, is a good widespread education and knowledge, from parents to school.

u crank

02-04-21, 07:01 AM

Of course I would think that the question to ask here is .. what reality? I would question the reality of a reality that comes from a writer for the New York Times.:O:

Catfish

02-04-21, 07:14 AM

Confusing times for Qanon for sure :yep:

u crank

02-04-21, 07:49 AM

Confusing times for Qanon for sure :yep:

AOC is struggling as well. Tough times for all in these days of post truth.

Catfish

02-04-21, 08:01 AM

Always comparing reality and bogus, and handling it as if that both was at the same level?
Miss Ocasio-Cortez struggles? Because she publicly declares things as bogus as

"the world is run by a Satanic group of pedophiles that includes top Democrats and Hollywood elites, and that President Trump has spent years leading a top-secret mission to bring these evildoers to justice".

And she is not sharing links from right-wing sites like Breitbart and The Epoch Times or QAnon memes pulled off Twitter. Or accusing Congress of high treason, calling Lady Gaga a Satanist and claiming that Trump's "covfefe" was a coded intelligence message.

I'd say she is not quite in that league, 'reality'-wise :)

u crank

02-04-21, 08:42 AM

Always comparing reality and bogus, and handling it as if that both was at the same level?
Miss Ocasio-Cortez struggles?

I was merely pointing out that she struggles with the truth and reality. I don't think pointing that out is bogus at all.

I'd say she is not quite in that league, 'reality'-wise :)

Ok how about Miss Ocasio-Cortez's musings on the Capital riot ...

"We came close to half of the House nearly dying on Wednesday... and if another head of state came in and ordered an attack on the United States Congress, would we say that that should not be prosecuted?"

Refering to Sen. Ted Cruz ...

“I am happy to work with Republicans on this issue where there’s common ground, but you almost had me murdered 3 weeks ago so you can sit this one out. Happy to work w/ almost any other GOP that aren’t trying to get me killed. In the meantime if you want to help, you can resign.”

Miss Ocasio-Cortez claims that her life was in mortal danger during the Jan 6 riot. She claims that the rioters were banging on the door of her office and threatening her life. Turns out that Miss Ocasio-Cortez's office is not even in the Capital Building. And the person banging on her door was a Capital police officer evacuating people from the building. Miss Ocasio-Cortez's office is in the Cannon Building. The rioters never entered that building.

Are not these the ravings of a person who lives in an alternate reality of her own making? The woman is delusional and needs help. And she is propped up in her delusions by the fanboys and girls who think she is a paragon of virtue, truth and bravery. It is a shining example of the biased manipulation of truth.

Catfish

02-04-21, 09:12 AM

^ your latest twist of the story? Please.

I have to say i am out of this, i am happy those f'n four years are over, and i am TIRED of this bullsh!t. Nothing against republicans, but those who still defend riots and QAnon, and still echo the old long-debunked lies, can go to hell.

Sonicfire1981

02-04-21, 09:31 AM

Turns out that Miss Ocasio-Cortez's office is not even in the Capital Building. And the person banging on her door was a Capital police officer evacuating people from the building. Miss Ocasio-Cortez's office is in the Cannon Building. The rioters never entered that building.

Why would the capitol police evacuate the cannon building when the rioters weren't even there?
Sounds a bit like T*** tax infomation that, according to him, the NYT did not have and aquired illegally... which one is it?

AOC was in Porters office and rightfully feared for her life... They wanted to "hang Mike Pence! hang Mike Pence!" ( a figure of speech, I'm sure). What do you think would have happened if they got hands on one of their idols worst enemies for years? selfies & signed T-Shirts?

u crank

02-04-21, 09:50 AM

^ your latest twist of the story? Please.

So when confronted with AOC's actual words and the truth about what happened on Jan 6th you say it is 'the latest twist'. Not a very convincing argument.

I have to say i am out of this, i am happy those f'n four years are over, and i am TIRED of this bullsh!t. Nothing against republicans, but those who still defend riots and QAnon, and still echo the old long-debunked lies, can go to hell.

Now I will ask you a direct question. Do you think that I am in anyway 'defending riots and QAnon'? Do you think I am 'echoing long debunked lies'? What this thread is about is some guy wanting a Reality Czar. But what reality? I used Ocasio-Cortez as an example of this kind of choose your own reality but I could have used any number of Democrat politicians or Left wing media types to make the same point. You seemed to have missed that point.

The truth is that there are people on both sides of the political divide who have a problem with the facts and with outlandish beliefs. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) is one of them. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) is another. No side has the moral high ground when it comes to this kind of thing.

Sonicfire1981

02-04-21, 09:56 AM

The truth is that there are people on both sides of the political divide who have a problem with the facts and with outlandish beliefs. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) is one of them. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) is another. No side has the moral high ground when it comes to this kind of thing.

I'm inclined to believe that "medicare for all!" has the moral high ground over "Nancy Pelosi should be sentenced to death". Could be wrong, thou

u crank

02-04-21, 10:27 AM

I'm inclined to believe that "medicare for all!" has the moral high ground over "Nancy Pelosi should be sentenced to death". Could be wrong, thou

Try to focus man.:O:

Why would the capitol police evacuate the cannon building when the rioters weren't even there?

Are you saying that it didn't happen? Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says it happened. Her staff member said it happened. Are they lying? She said she was in her office. Her office is in the Cannon Building. Why they did it is obvious. The Cannon building is part of the Capital complex and is easily accessed by street or tunnel. It is about 200m away. It was a necessary and prudent thing to do. Had they not done it Ms. Ocasio-Cortez almost certainly would have said that the 'bad policeman' left her to die.

AOC was in Porters office and rightfully feared for her life...

Rep. Katie Porter's office is in the Longworth House Office Building not the Capital building. And next door to the Cannon building. Was that building breached by the rioters? I can't find any reports that it was. Can you?

Onkel Neal

02-04-21, 10:29 AM

mapuc

02-04-21, 12:35 PM

Of course I would think that the question to ask here is .. what reality? :O:

Simple the answer is.......The Subsim reality.

Markus

Sonicfire1981

02-04-21, 01:55 PM

Rep. Katie Porter's office is in the Longworth House Office Building not the Capital building. And next door to the Cannon building. Was that building breached by the rioters? I can't find any reports that it was. Can you?

You see - it's not a real time strategy game. you don't get birds eye view and a minimap. Perhaps we can go back and focus on the important facts of that matter - your legislators feared for their lives while at work. I'm not talking about "poor aoc", but your VP as well. The attempts to play that down kinda gross me out to be honest. There are *not* "fine people on both sides". there is one side based in reality and there is another side, believing in conspiracies, doubting anything that does not fit their delusional world-construct and calling for violence against everyone not ... "on their side".

History teaches that you can't argue with such people, you mustn't use them for your plots, anything but condemning them and removing them from where they can do harm and spread their views to the gullible will result in repeating it.

u crank

02-04-21, 02:42 PM

You see - it's not a real time strategy game. you don't get birds eye view and a minimap.

Actually if you go to Google Maps you can see the Capital building, the Cannon Building where AOC's office is and the Longworth House Building where Katie Porter's office is and their relationship to each other.

your legislators feared for their lives while at work.

They are not my legislators. I am and have always been a Canadian citizen.

The attempts to play that down kinda gross me out to be honest.

I for one am not downplaying what happened on Jan 6th. It was a riot and riots are bad.

There are *not* "fine people on both sides". there is one side based in reality and there is another side, believing in conspiracies, doubting anything that does not fit their delusional world-construct and calling for violence against everyone not ... "on their side".

I hate to break it to you but there are good and bad people on both sides. Those who don't accept this reality have taken a big drink of the proverbial koolaid. My issue with Rep Ocasio-Cortez is that she has in the past and is once again not being completely honest. I don't think she is a liar. The correct term is fabulist. She is a shameless self promoter and this is just another opportunity, a gift you might say to aid her in that goal. I am glad that no members of the US government were hurt that day including her. What she is doing is using those events to smear her political opponents. She accused a US Senator of attempted murder. Pretty shameful to say the least. The question is why are you defending her?

History teaches that you can't argue with such people ..

And yet here we both are.

Catfish

02-04-21, 03:13 PM

[...] I hate to break it to you but there are good and bad people on both sides. [..].
And this is exactly what i mean. Yes, there are "good" and "bad" on all sides, but the "sides" have also a bit to do with one side being halfways realistic and the other believing in absolutely insane conspiracy theories and denying reason, along with science.
Stop comparing reality and bogus as if they both have the same "right" to be believed in, or are both true, and handling it as if that both weres at the same reality level to compare them. They. Are. NOT.
You think you can compare a QAnon believer like this shamane with someone like.. whoever, Cortez?

It is like with someone believing the moon is made of green cheese, and another one saying it is made of rock and regolith.
You can be polite and argue with the green cheese believer, but it will get you nowhere. Do not let yourself get dragged down to this insanity level, the 'believers' will always beat you with experience at that level.
And the very last thing i want is to transfer any power to the green cheese believers, or to a crazy cult.

u crank

02-04-21, 04:06 PM

Stop comparing reality and bogus as if they both have the same "right" to be believed in, or are both true, and handling it as if that both weres at the same reality level to compare them. They. Are. NOT.
You think you can compare a QAnon believer like this shamane with someone like.. whoever, Cortez?

I don't think I ever made a comparison between the shaman and Ms. Ms Ocasio-Cortez. It is possible that they both can be wrong. Yes? The reality level between this QAnon shaman and Ms Ocasio-Cortez is a non issue. He is a nobody nut job criminal. She is a member of the House of Representatives of the US government. Who should be held to a higher standard? Who are we going to pay attention to? If people are going to hold Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene to this high standard (and they should) then why not Ms. Ocasio-Cortez? I find this hard to understand.

the other believing in absolutely insane conspiracy theories and denying reason, along with science.

I would say that the vast majority of people on the left and most Democrat politicians believe, despite scientific evidence to the contrary that a man can be a woman and a woman can be a man. Not that there is anything wrong with that belief. Be happy.:D It's just not scientific. And it is not a view held by very many on the right.

And the very last thing i want is to transfer any power to the green cheese believers, or to a crazy cult.

I think you give the green cheese people too much credit.

bstanko6

02-04-21, 04:23 PM

Catfish

02-04-21, 04:25 PM

I don't think I ever made a comparison between the shaman and Ms. Ms Ocasio-Cortez. It is possible that they both can be wrong. Yes? [...]
Again, i can't believe this! They are "both wrong"?!! You try to pin them to the same evel, no, they are not "both wrong". The level of "wrongness" is a bit different between the two, don't you think so?
Also I have not heard or read of Miss Cortez to promote violence. Maybe she is "wrong", but she is not insanely dangerous.

So Cortez was scared when someone banged again her door, which regardless who it was (she even said yes it had been an officer, but she could not have known in the moment before), some other colleagues told her to run and hide, and she hid in a bathroom, does this put something in perspective? The intruders were reportedly "everywhere". "Hang Mike Pence!", good joke?
OT here but i wonder how Pence felt when he reported to his boss next day, when the latter's followers wanted to kill him.
If people are going to hold Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene to this high standard (and they should) then why not Ms. Ocasio-Cortez? I find this hard to understand.
I somehow doubt you are as dumb as you want to appear here? Miss Greene believes in this QAnon bullsh!t, she is completely crazy! There is a reason you put some people in an asylum, but not others.
You really want to compare Cortez and Greene? They are not both wrong or both right, they are completely different.

A murderer and a boy who stole an apple. They are "both wrong". :doh:

Von Due

02-04-21, 04:51 PM

A murderer and a boy who stole an apple. They are "both wrong".

Yes indeed. Being wrong, as you say, isn't a competition where the "least wrong" gets a free license to be wrong. There is no need to equate the two before calling both "wrong". Pol Pot was bad. He was real bad. He was not as bad as that silly moustached Austrian though, nowhere near in fact, but bad he was indeed. Wrong even. Not as wrong as that failed painter with a uniform fetish but wrong he was.

Sonicfire1981

02-04-21, 05:08 PM

How can Biden assess the damage in this country? He forgets who he is most days?

If he really wants to unify the country, start by not destroying what over half the country wanted in Trumps orders! Stop dismantling and make your own!

Placing a tranny into the secretary of education does not sit well in this popular. Especially since trannys are a minority group. No one wants their children indoctrinated with lies and untrue science.

Start there Cornpop! The. You can have the children stroke your leg hair you useless disgusting communist pedophile!

Are you drunk? Are you having a stroke?
Trump was "wanted" by less than 48% that's close to half, too close to be a sign of a well educated nation, but not at all "over half". Biden even outperformed the "landslide victory" of 2016. Where less than 49% wanted Trump.
Would you be ok with transvestite landowners? I think it's high time US-education became more inclusive. on so many levels, actually.

Catfish

02-04-21, 05:16 PM

Yes indeed. Being wrong, as you say, isn't a competition where the "least wrong" gets a free license to be wrong. There is no need to equate the two before calling both "wrong". Pol Pot was bad. He was real bad. He was not as bad as that silly moustached Austrian though, nowhere near in fact, but bad he was indeed. Wrong even. Not as wrong as that failed painter with a uniform fetish but wrong he was.
Alright, but one took part in an attempted overthrow, or a riot, and the other (Cortez) did what exactly wrong? Did she lie? She told how she felt, and had even said she had then realized it was a police officer, she was just scared. So?

u crank

02-04-21, 05:34 PM

Again, i can't believe this! They are "both wrong"?!! You try to pin them to the same evel, no, they are not "both wrong". The level of "wrongness" is a bit different between the two, don't you think so?

Well no I don't. As I said I don't think I ever tried to compare them. Someone else started talking about the shaman. It wasn't me. The only point I was trying to make right from the start is that Ms Ocasio-Cortez who is a member of Congress plays fast and loose with the truth. She has done this ever since her career in Washington began. If you think that is ok so be it.

Also I have not heard or read of Miss Cortez to promote violence. Maybe she is "wrong", but she is not insanely dangerous.

I have not heard of any other member of Congress promoting violence either. Have you? On the other hand she did accused Sen. Ted Cruz of trying to have her murdered. Perhaps you don't remember what happened to Sen. Rand Paul. Or Rep. Steve Scalisie. Words are dangerous and she is way out of line to say things like that which by the way is another lie by AOC. Is that not a standard that elected officials should live up to?

So Cortez was scared when someone banged again her door, which regardless who it was (she even said yes it had been an officer, but she could not have known in the moment before), some other colleagues told her to run and hide, and she hid in a bathroom, does this put something in perspective?

But this doesn't line up with what we have learned. The building she was in was never stormed by the protesters. The right thing to do would be to admit that she was wrong and maybe apologize for sensationalizing her experience. She wasn't the only one in danger.

I somehow doubt you are as dumb as you want to appear here?

Oh my.

You really want to compare Cortez and Greene?

I never said that. You are putting words in my mouth. I said they should be held to the same standard. There is a big difference. What you seem to be suggesting is that because you think Greene is crazy then we should excuse dishonesty by Ms Ocasio-Cortez. Say it ain't so.

Sonicfire1981

02-04-21, 05:54 PM

Well no I don't. As I said I don't think I ever tried to compare them. Someone else started talking about the shaman. It wasn't me. The only point I was trying to make right from the start is that Ms Ocasio-Cortez who is a member of Congress plays fast and loose with the truth. She has done this ever since her career in Washington began. If you think that is ok so be it.

You may well be right about a politician and the truth. Of course I want some facts, if you have them handy.

I have not heard of any other member of Congress promoting violence either. Have you?

Meh... Yeah, I have. Just about anything Ms. Greene said. And the warrior-rethoric of the president reject & his minions surely did not help.

On the other hand she did accused Sen. Ted Cruz of trying to have her murdered. Perhaps you don't remember what happened to Sen. Rand Paul. Or Rep. Steve Scalisie. Words are dangerous and she is way out of line to say things like that which by the way is another lie by AOC. Is that not a standard that elected officials should live up to?

Absolutely. AOC never "handled" a gullible and violent mob, thou. If you leave a gun with a two-year-old (a frenzied crowd is not smarter than that) and something happens - you don't blame the Kid. I am not aware of the argument Ms. Cortez makes, but I think she's smarter than to just throw allegations around.

But this doesn't line up with what we have learned. The building she was in was never stormed by the protesters. The right thing to do would be to admit that she was wrong and maybe apologize for sensationalizing her experience.

again: she had no birds eye view nor a minimap. the building across the street was overrun by a frenzied mob. All of them supporters of that man that made you one of the worst enemies of the state the last four years. A splinter group could well have thought to cross the street and come look where she was.

She wasn't the only one in danger.

I thought she was never in danger?

What you seem to be suggesting is that because you think Greene is crazy then we should excuse dishonesty by Ms Ocasio-Cortez. Say it ain't so.
You should. Your house is on fire and you're sorting your socks, because they're in disarray. To be less figurative: Such "whataboutisms" are just used to distract from the real issue this country is facing. And that's unhealthy. Think of all the refugees that will pour into canada. EDIT: it wont be the rich landowners.

Von Due

02-04-21, 06:29 PM

Catfish: My post was about matters of principles. That was all my tired brain aimed at. Without going into matters I haven't paid much attention to (the two people in question), the principle that both a murderer and an apple stealer are both wrong was my point. Sorry about not making it clear. I need sleep :)

Onto truth in general:
Uncompromising Truth is a cyanide pill for any politician, anywhere at any point in time. Stick with the truth and you are politically dead. Your friends will abandon you, your financial supporters will run away at warp speed.

Reporters' job is to make headlines and sell papers/advertising space, and write what their employer wants them to write, in other word their job is to have a job to go to, like for most other. Truth or falsehood is irrelevant. If a best seller is true, then the truth is what they'll scribble down. If BS sells, then BS is what we get. A news outlet is a soup of truth and BS. Even RT or Tehran Today will tell you the truth, occationally. Even Fox News will, on occations, tell the truth. BBC, CNN, same thing. They will also tell BS when that pays better.

When news outlets use facebook posts as sources for their story (has happened) then we have reached the end. No further discussion neccessary. The truth gehalt is utterly irrelevant.

When we turn to social media for news, then we have no real reason to complain that the official news outlets are full of **** sometimes.

u crank

02-04-21, 06:48 PM

I am not aware of the argument Ms. Cortez makes, but I think she's smarter than to just throw allegations around.

Think again.

"I am happy to work with Republicans on this issue where there's common ground, but you almost had me murdered 3 weeks ago so you can sit this one out," the New York congresswoman wrote in a tweet directed at the Texas senator Thursday. "Happy to work w/ almost any other GOP that aren't trying to get me killed. In the meantime if you want to help, you can resign."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/28/politics/ocasio-cortez-ted-cruz-capitol-attack/index.html

again: she had no birds eye view nor a minimap. the building across the street was overrun by a frenzied mob. All of them supporters of that man that made you one of the worst enemies of the state the last four years. A splinter group could well have thought to cross the street and come look where she was.

Possibly but now after the fact when we know what actually happened why is she still telling this fabulous tale? An intellegent person would review the facts and make those facts part of her story. She is not doing that. She is playing the victim card to the hilt.

I thought she was never in danger?

Apparently not.

You should. Your house is on fire and you're sorting your socks, because they're in disarray. To be less figurative: Such "whataboutisms" are just used to distract from the real issue this country is facing.

The logic here is difficult to understand. To excuse dishonesty in one person because someone else is crazy does not do anything to dispell the accusation of dishonesty.

August

02-04-21, 07:30 PM

Sonicfire1981

02-04-21, 07:42 PM

Aww, now that really cuts deep man! But if you're so TIRED then you can always just stop reading this thread.

what can one do when he's a philantrophist?

Sonicfire1981

02-04-21, 08:02 PM

Think again.

You're still dodging the key point, I wonder why this is. This commentary is so meaningless, you could have done without. I repeat: please give me a bit more to go on; in facts.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/28/politics/ocasio-cortez-ted-cruz-capitol-attack/index.html

she blames him for inciting the riots of which she could easily been one of (if not "the") key victim. the *bad, bad* media talks about murder allegations. that is incorrect: "You [..] had me murdered" -> incitement to murder, which I find acurate. courts should decide on that. Wonder why Mr. Cruz did not file anything yet.

Possibly but now after the fact when we know what actually happened why is she still telling this fabulous tale? An intellegent person would review the facts and make those facts part of her story. She is not doing that. She is playing the victim card to the hilt.

She was talking about her feelings. Is it sexist to point out that she's a women and that's not uncommon, as well as perfectly covered by the first ammendment?

Rep. Katie Porter's office is in the Longworth House Office Building not the Capital building. And next door to the Cannon building. Was that building breached by the rioters? I can't find any reports that it was. Can you?

She wasn't the only one in danger.

Apparently not.

Without the quotes it got lost how you contradicted yourself. I took the liberty to put it back in.

The logic here is difficult to understand. To excuse dishonesty in one person because someone else is crazy does not do anything to dispell the accusation of dishonesty.

You could at least try. I even painted you a pretty word picture; deal with the immediate threat to democracy first, do it without distraction ("whataboutX") and deal with the parking tickets once the crisis is averted.

u crank

02-04-21, 08:50 PM

You're still dodging the key point, I wonder why this is. This commentary is so meaningless, you could have done without. I repeat: please give me a bit more to go on; in facts.

Sorry but I thought that it what you were looking for in regards to "I am not aware of the argument Ms. Cortez makes, but I think she's smarter than to just throw allegations around." She made the allegation right? You read that part didn't you. So what exactly are you looking for?

she blames him for inciting the riots of which she could easily been one of (if not "the") key victim. the *bad, bad* media talks about murder allegations. that is incorrect: "You [..] had me murdered" -> incitement to murder, which I find acurate. courts should decide on that. Wonder why Mr. Cruz did not file anything yet.

Sounds like you are saying that it is Mr. Cruz's fault that AOC said that he tried to have her killed. I understand beyond a doubt that AOC has accused Sen. Cruz of 'trying to have me killed.'

She was talking about her feelings.

I'm touched.

You could at least try. I even painted you a pretty word picture; deal with the immediate threat to democracy first, do it without distraction ("whataboutX") and deal with the parking tickets once the crisis is averted.

I believe I made a pretty good attempt. You have disregarded it. 'The immediate threat to democracy first' is a good tactic though. Because you think the sky is falling is not an excuse to overlook something as important as a Congresswoman's honesty or her slanderous accusations.

Sonicfire1981

02-04-21, 09:07 PM

Sounds like you are saying that it is Mr. Cruz's fault that AOC said that he tried to have her killed. I understand beyond a doubt that AOC has accused Sen. Cruz of 'trying to have me killed.'

Yes. yes indeed. this will be interesting for the courts no doubt.

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She was talking about her feelings.
I'm touched.

You should be. you should get in touch with your feminine side.
No, wait, that was b_stank. got you mixed up because your names rhyme.
But it's a healthy thing for you to try, too.

I believe I made a pretty good attempt.

I believe you can do better than this
You have disregarded it. 'The immediate threat to democracy first' is a good tactic though.

Rightfully so. but thank you.
Because you think the sky is falling is not an excuse to overlook something as important as a Congresswoman's honesty or her slanderous accusations.
When your toddler reaches into the cookie-jar and someone tries to shoot your toddler - your not going after the toddler first.