Question about deliveries. FedEx vs DHL

[Von Due]

Not sure where to post this so here goes:

I am looking to buy some game controllers and at the price they're at, I would really sleep better at night knowing the delivery service won't trash the gear, or lose it or something silly like that so:

Any experience with FedEx (economy and priority are available) and/or DHL Express (the most expensice option)?

[Buddahaid]

I can't speak for international shipping but domestically in the US I will not use FedEx ever again. They are expensive and have damaged more items I've shipped than ever arrived intact. I asked about fragile stickers once and the counter person said they treat every shipment as fragile. I interpret that now to mean it gets shipped just as badly as ever. I have far better luck with the USPS which is cheaper, faster and far less likely to be broken.

Just this past fall I ordered some Tamiya spray cans from Amazon and FedEx damaged them in shipment. The package was stalled at one of their facilities and would have stayed there forever if I didn't contact the seller asking what was going to happen. Reshipped USPS and arrived safely in a couple of days.

[Rockstar]

Not sure where to post this so here goes:

I am looking to buy some game controllers and at the price they're at, I would really sleep better at night knowing the delivery service won't trash the gear, or lose it or something silly like that so:

Any experience with FedEx (economy and priority are available) and/or DHL Express (the most expensice option)?


I've used both services and each delivered the package in one piece. The only complaint I have is with DHL. Delivery seemed to take longer and I never got good tracking data. So if I was given a choice I'd go with FedEx every time.




edit: LOL I just saw buddahaid's post

[vienna]

I think its pretty much of a crap shoot when it comes to delivery services; they aren't even consistent within fairly limited areas, like, say, a state; most are pretty good at getting things to their destination in one piece and they are pretty much even in service; I don't do much mail order purchasing, mainly medical stuff, but I haven't had many problems except the usual ones of delayed delivery, but those have been always due to conditions out of the control of the carriers; I did get one item that was slightly damaged, but the vendor was very quick to replace the item, so I really don't have much of a complaint; you might want to inquire of some of the persons who live around you and see if they have any experience with the vendors you mentioned; as said, the service can very from area to area, keeping in mind that, ultimately, the human element is always the wild card in any business transaction...


One other thing you might try: check online to see if there are any service reviews for you area for those companies; I once had something sent to me via the USPS and it seemed to take forever to get here; the tracing showed it was at a USPS distribution hub nearby and had been there for days; I Googled the hub and found links to postal customer complaints regarding severe problems with items passing through that hub; armed with that knowledge, I went to the USPS office here in Hollywood, which is also a hub fr my immediate area and asked to speak with a postal inspector; I told him about the long delay with my item and showed him the critical posts I had found regarding the larger regional hub with the problems; he was a little surprised at the extent of the complaints and told me he would make some calls about the matter; later that day, I checked again on the USPS tracking, and, lo and behold, my item had suddenly passed through the larger regional hub and was on its way...





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[Von Due]

Thanks a ton, guys. Yeah it appears that most delivery services obey the Rules Of Delivery Services:
1: All round parcels are footballs and must be kicked onto the truck.
2: Any non-round parcel must be made round and obey rule #1

I have no idea how many complaints I've read about various services, smashed up items, lost items etc but I am looking at a pretty hefty sum to pay (1800+ euros) and smashing up and losing items is not an option here. Unfortunately, the shop only offers these 3 options.

As for waiting, I sure can wait an extra week or more as long as the goods arrive undamaged. That has the highest priority for me.

[Aktungbby]

good to see nothing's gone outta style in 45 years since I was an 'X-mas hire' UPS delivery driver in downtown San José CA. 50 stops a day and 20 pickups on an all-commercial downtown route before I went to class 1 trukken nationwide. My hobbyist wife receives stuff all the time especially during the pandemic lockdown : FedEx, UPS, USPS...no difference; they all have damage usually from inferior packaging or the highly automated sorting conveyer's handling at the companies' shipping hubs.

[Von Due]

So, should I book a flight to Belarus then and carry the gear back myself? It's a bummer and a deal breaker for sure if there is no sane way of getting the stuff sent over without incidents.

EDIT: Looks like Virpil is taking shipping more seriusly than shipping companies. Reading up on happy customers receiving their items in enough bubble wrap to wrap their houses. That's a good thing!

[mapuc]

I have learned one thing-Never ask other internet user for advice on thing.

You get 100 answers with 100 different solution.

We have many companies who deliver parcel and each of them has made mistake.

Put every name you know off in a bowl
Close your eyes and pick one.

Markus

[Von Due]

While you have a good point, I have about 1900 reasons to not jump into a buy blind. Sometimes there are trends in the replies which are better pointers than no pointer at all.

[Commander Wallace]

I would weigh what shipping companies I use with regards to what comments were made here. I would just make sure to add insurance for some added protection and piece of mind. Other than that, it's a crap shoot..

[Buddahaid]

I actually think adding insurance is a waste of money. You have to have the damage to the "box" before opening very well documented and the opening as well. Gee, it wasn't packed properly, etc. Once you see damage you file the claim and wait, and wait, and wait. Any misstep and the claim will be denied and you are still stuck months later with a broken whatever.

That is speaking from the viewpoint of a private individual shipping something and not a business that has engineered their packaging.

[Commander Wallace]

^ I had purchased a motorcycle fuel tank petcock from Amazon. It sat in the garage for a week or so. upon opening and installing it, I discovered it was a refurbished piece instead of the new unit I payed for. What's worse is that the unit not only flowed at a diminished rate, it also leaked.


I contacted Amazon who said they would correct the issue but never did. I'm thinking had I opted for insurance, it would have covered shipping and defects in the unit.

[Sean C]

I asked about fragile stickers once and the counter person said they treat every shipment as fragile. I interpret that now to mean it gets shipped just as badly as ever.


Many years ago I worked for UPS. We saw lots of boxes marked "fragile". They got thrown into the truck just like every other box. Sad, but true. The boxes don't stop coming down the line just because one has a different word written on it - and we had a deadline to meet. After all, you don't want your delivery to be late, do you?



Now - having said that - I have never had a problem with FedEx, UPS, DHL or any other carrier. Maybe I'm just lucky that way. (Lord knows I get enough bad luck.) Or maybe I just jinxed myself ... :o

[AVGWarhawk]

Not sure where to post this so here goes:

I am looking to buy some game controllers and at the price they're at, I would really sleep better at night knowing the delivery service won't trash the gear, or lose it or something silly like that so:

Any experience with FedEx (economy and priority are available) and/or DHL Express (the most expensice option)?

DHL is your better international company. My office uses DHL extensively. They do a fine job. FedEx is your best bet domestically(USA). I use FedEx quite a bit and without issues. UPS does a fine job as well. USPS? I would not have them transport my laundry let alone a package of any substance. USPS could not deliver a pizza to their own home.

[AVGWarhawk]

I actually think adding insurance is a waste of money. You have to have the damage to the "box" before opening very well documented and the opening as well. Gee, it wasn't packed properly, etc. Once you see damage you file the claim and wait, and wait, and wait. Any misstep and the claim will be denied and you are still stuck months later with a broken whatever.

That is speaking from the viewpoint of a private individual shipping something and not a business that has engineered their packaging.

What is done is the claim is first denied(after months of filing, following up and waiting). This is the first step in frustrating the person in hopes they just go away. By and large the person gives up at this juncture. Now, if the claim is pursued after denial the item insured will be paid and usually a few cents per pound. The claimant gets nothing close to what the item value. If the shipper has a declared value and pays additional insurance, the same will apply. Decline, dodge, frustrate in hopes the person gives up.

I have been in the transportation business since 1993. Seen it all.

[Skybird]

In Germany, DHL is best option. Working conditions for drivers also are the best in business over here. I know one driver, who also thinks like this, he has worked at UPS and Hermes years ago, too. He said the parcle handling and the working climate do not compare, loan anyway. I have had three or four less good experiences with parcel deliveries over the past 20 years, all of them not having been DHL.



They are also extremely fast over here, send it on day one, and get it the next day, is the norm. Delivery projection is usually within 3-4 hours.

[Von Due]

Having read more around the web, and asked around, it seems that DHL is indeed the option I should go for. It costs twice as much as the cheapest FedEx option but DHL seems to get the most positive reviews.

There are still a few questions about the products I am researching the answer to but it also seems that Virpil will be what I'm going for. Nothing but praise about their hardware and a little less praise about their old software solutions which I understand have been updated to be more user friendly. Also, and this is key for me, they do what they can to ensure the protection of their gear being shipped.

Also watching out for news on their upcoming helicopter collectives. Both the Ka-50 and the UH-60 collectives have been modelled to some accuracy (bar classified functions I can imagine). Still no news on how the design is going or any release date. I have been looking at the Puma Pro Flight Trainer as well but it's too specific to be useful for anything other than certain helicopter sims.

I can easily wait a couple of months too so DHL being slow is not much of an issue.

Here's what I have on my radar
https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-control-panel-1.html
https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-constellation-alpha-l.html for Elite Dangerous
https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-constellation-alpha-r.html main for all sims
https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-warbrd-base.html 2 for Elite Dangerous
https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-mongoost-50cm-base.html for DCS
https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-mongoost-50cm3-throttle.html
https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-flightstick-extension-200mm.html for DCS

Now I need to talk myself out of thinking this is insane and it seems it's working slowly but surely. Summer is looking like sim time.

[AVGWarhawk]

Having read more around the web, and asked around, it seems that DHL is indeed the option I should go for. It costs twice as much as the cheapest FedEx option but DHL seems to get the most positive reviews.

There are still a few questions about the products I am researching the answer to but it also seems that Virpil will be what I'm going for. Nothing but praise about their hardware and a little less praise about their old software solutions which I understand have been updated to be more user friendly. Also, and this is key for me, they do what they can to ensure the protection of their gear being shipped.

Also watching out for news on their upcoming helicopter collectives. Both the Ka-50 and the UH-60 collectives have been modelled to some accuracy (bar classified functions I can imagine). Still no news on how the design is going or any release date. I have been looking at the Puma Pro Flight Trainer as well but it's too specific to be useful for anything other than certain helicopter sims.

I can easily wait a couple of months too so DHL being slow is not much of an issue.

Here's what I have on my radar
https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-control-panel-1.html
https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-constellation-alpha-l.html for Elite Dangerous
https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-constellation-alpha-r.html main for all sims
https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-warbrd-base.html 2 for Elite Dangerous
https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-mongoost-50cm-base.html for DCS
https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-mongoost-50cm3-throttle.html
https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-flightstick-extension-200mm.html for DCS

Now I need to talk myself out of thinking this is insane and it seems it's working slowly but surely. Summer is looking like sim time.


That is some serious hardware!

[Von Due]

That is some serious hardware!

I just wish I possessed the ingenuity of this gentleman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4Jn8GJ6wAM

but yeah, this whole thing is one that will be the core of my sim gear for the rest of my simming career so it's an investment I'm willing to make but you see why I REALLY don't want the carrier to mess it up.