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Skybird
08-28-20, 04:46 PM
https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/celera-500l-plane/index.html


Just by the looks: I don't like it. Looks like a plane with obesity problems. By the economy numbers, I like it. The question however is: how safe is it? How does it glide in case of engines failure? No gliding, no boarding, I say. And the wings simply look - suspicious.

stork100
08-29-20, 03:33 AM
My thoughts/observations:

I think it looks overall like quite a sensibly designed airframe. The fuselage looks very good aerodynamically for an aircraft designed for subsonic speeds. The optimum subsonic shape is in fact a water droplet in free fall, which is quite fat. Increased weight, but also increased cabin space!:) The traditional horizontal and vertical tail plus the ventral fin (largely preventing prop strikes in this case) is a very sensible approach: thank heavens they haven't opted for any silly fashionable flying wing or canard designs. The wings do look a bit small but similar to a UAV or glider. Nice, efficient high aspect ratio. And lift/drag ratios are generally improving in aircraft design all the time, so I'd think it would have quite an excellent glide for an aircraft of its type. Only the numbers can tell for sure though. The polyhedral wingtips are useful, but also a bit of a trendy fashion thing in my opinion. I think they actually work a bit better inverted but then you can have ground clearance issues.

The main thing I'm sceptical about is the diesel engine pusher arrangement. I'd prefer a more conventional design. Put the prop at the front and save the diesels for trucks, tractors, tanks, trains and subs.:arrgh!:

And seeing that they're leaning so heavily towards efficiency, the question is what are they sacrificing in order to attain it? Because everything is always a compromise in aircraft design. How will it compare with competing aircraft that are less efficient but perhaps more practical and capable in other areas? As we move through the 21st Century we're generally seeing the aviation industry in decline, so it will be interesting to see how commercially successful this machine will be, if at all.



For comparison - A successful aircraft, built for an entirely different purpose, with some similar design features - Lockheed U-2:

https://i.imgur.com/TrQqnWP.jpg

Jimbuna
08-29-20, 04:17 AM
^ I concur :yep:

Skybird
08-30-20, 10:49 AM
No, I stick to my taste. By looks, its fat and ugly. :O: Like a swallow that had a bottle of corn sirup per day for the past six months.

Jimbuna
08-30-20, 02:04 PM
Not a problem...to each their own :03:

ET2SN
08-30-20, 11:07 PM
One of the original bullet planes:

:D

https://www.historynet.com/bell-x-1-dropping-the-orange-beast.htm


As I recall, the X-1 was modeled after the shape of the business end of a 50 cal machine gun round. :yeah:

There was also a (sorta) recent Italian twin engine turbo prop biz plane called (I think?) the Avanti. Same basic fuse shape with two pusher engines and a canard wing up front.

Platapus
08-31-20, 06:20 AM
I wonder what the ground clearance is for that prop? I wonder what precautions are in place to prevent over rotation on take-off?


Pretty cool design. I wonder how well it will scale up.

Gerald
08-31-20, 09:29 AM
Looks like a modern Gulfstream.