[No Threads Allowed - Post Suspension] Cold Waters Epic Mod 2.12 [Archive] - Page 2

steel shark

03-12-21, 06:39 PM

as ive had to deal with few things for 4 days ive not finished testing it should be done tomorrow

as a few people have asked what ive added hear :

EMT 2.28

(Epic Mod Tweaks) 2.28

NEW Features --------->

NEW -- Optional EM / EMT Huds Ver 2.28 With Improvements

NEW -- Tube Labels for Faster Weapon Selection

NEW -- Tube Selection Design

NEW -- Tube Disabled Design

NEW -- Added missing vessel signatures To EM 2.28

NEW -- Fire Tube "Audio" Tubes 1 to 20 & with Reworked Generic SFX

NEW -- Tube Ready "Audio" Tubes 1 to 20

NEW -- Systems Damaged "Audio" Alarm

NEW -- Systems Destroyed "Audio" Alarm

NEW -- Fire VLS = ver 3

NEW --Navy Guns Sounds = Ver 2

"All Pre Existing Features From EM Tweaks 2.22 to 2.27 (VIIC) Carried over as well ofc"

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Epic Mod ver 2.28 Weps Tags & DEX

Or

Epic Mod ver 2.28 Weapons Tags & Description Expansion Mod

NEW Features --------->

NEW -- Anti-Air Indexing added For SAM,S

NEW -- Renaming of NATO Weapon names on Russian vessels Weapon,s Systems

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Epic mod ver 2.28 EMT 2.28 Depth & SnS Comp Hide Mod

as per usual but made for EM 2.28 / EMT 2.28 / EMT-MDL 2.28

Steel Shark

steel shark

03-14-21, 12:06 PM

Ok that was hard work to find time to finish these Enjoy :

EMT 2.28 Ver 1.a

Epic Mod HUDS 2.28

Epic mod ver 2.28 Weapons Tags & DEX

Epic mod ver 2.28 EMT 2.28 Depth mod + SnS-Comp Hide

They are under = DOWNLOADS/COLDWATERS/GAMEPLAY MODS

Steel Shark

jack33

03-14-21, 01:15 PM

Thank´s:Kaleun_Salute:

goldmastersims

03-14-21, 04:17 PM

I'm downloading that next time I hop on Cold Waters.

goldmastersims

03-15-21, 12:40 AM

These tweaks are amazing. The English voices are up to a similar level of quality as the Russian voices. The echo makes commanding a submarine more realistic than the vanilla voices.

However, the voices for firing and holding fire of surface ships' guns also gets changed to your voices even if the language is set to Russian.

However, the sounds for naval guns are a step back from the vanilla sounds. American 5-inch gun sounds are really wacky. It feels like you're hearing a muffled RBU-6000 launching while the shell fires. You also hear a shell hitting the deck each time the gun fires.

The same also applies for most Russian 5-inch guns. The only ones that sound decent are those of the Sovremmeny and Sverdlov.

Here is how the AK-726 should sound close-up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUCatW4mX0M

The AK-100 should sound like this from 0:30 to 0:35 in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uARXx9qNKU&t=30s

VLS is labeled as a 533mm torpedo tube instead of VLS.

steel shark

03-15-21, 05:04 AM

First off thank you for Downloading the Mods

as for your points :

1.) my mods are Purposely Designed as a English Version of epic mod as their are loads of extra features that were in the Russian Version but not the English Version So from day 1 these were made as a English Versions ONLY

that not only matched the Russian content but exceeded it with extra features and content

if you play epic mod with out my mods you will notice a vast difference when set to English settings

this is totally understandable tho as it was made by Russians for Russians in Russia

the fact they even added a English version was kind of em as it took extra work and loads of translation efforts to do it on their part

im very aware of this as i know EM very well as ive gotten to know it very well while making my various mods for it

if i was to do a Russian EMT version that would double my work load and like them i would face language barriers on text & speech translation and recording audio stuff

i simply do not have the time

2.) guns

well theirs a couple of issues first a load of the clips i got had like yours wind sounds & voices or other undesirable noises on em so the recordings were not good to use so made what i could in the time i had

second certain guns are not linked right ect

DepthWeaponObjectReference=wp_ak-726_shell
DepthWeaponAudioClip=audio/guns/ak725.ogg

DepthWeaponObjectReference=wp_b-34_shell
DepthWeaponAudioClip=audio/guns/ak725.ogg

DepthWeaponObjectReference=usn_mk-45_shell
DepthWeaponAudioClip=audio/guns/gun_firing1.ogg

ect their are others

ect so they dont correspond

i had originally made separate audio files for ever gun :

this will be addressed in the EMT-MDL version as that is a total conversion mod as every things is edited so i left em as were for now and did what i could

as for shell eject noise ive manually added that as its more real in my opinion

3.) VLS

this ones simple they haven't added separate vls caliber weapons or made a vls CAL tube for the huds like i do so it is 533 in-effect

so that is not a over sight its the best i could do that is set within EM atm

they have done this for a few reasons VLS in epic mod is :

ssgn tubes

ssbn tubes

countermesure tubes

ect

my mods i make my self everything is separate see pic :

(New Weapon color back lights )

any ways hope this help you information wise

Steel Shark

goldmastersims

03-15-21, 06:28 AM

Thank you so much for such a detailed reply.

Vanilla Epic Mod will introduce real sounds for AK-100 and AK-130 according to this post on their VK page (https://vk.com/wall-165613870_22651), so you can leave those untouched in future versions of your mod.

steel shark

03-15-21, 07:18 AM

yes its hard to mod a mod as ive got to check what a team of people have done first for the entire game

before i even start my self then figure out how to do it & make the content too ofc

also and they add stuff in Russian as well lol

&

your most welcome

Stay safe mate

Steel Shark

SkulSS

03-19-21, 08:46 PM

Ok that was hard work to find time to finish these Enjoy :
EMT 2.28 Ver 1.a
Epic Mod HUDS 2.28
Epic mod ver 2.28 Weapons Tags & DEX
Epic mod ver 2.28 EMT 2.28 Depth mod + SnS-Comp Hide

They are under = DOWNLOADS/COLDWATERS/GAMEPLAY MODS

Steel Shark

Hi! Good work with English side of Epic mod! Can you upload this extentions to GoogleDisk?

steel shark

03-21-21, 07:57 AM

a family member that was very ill is now critically ill and ive got to attend to other matters also

ill send you a link on discord when i get time to make it

im not at home much of late and when i am its brief visits

were im staying has no WiFi unfortunately

alternatively they are all on subsim if you want to make a combined zip yourself

feel free to google drive em as they are epic mod-mods ofc

thank you for your comment & take care

Steel Shark

goldmastersims

03-22-21, 09:31 PM

Sorry to hear about that! I send my condolences to your poor family member.

Please keep us posted on the Discord as well. I am eager to join and test a major mod other than Epic Mod.

goldmastersims

03-24-21, 11:08 PM

New sounds for AK-100, AK-130, AK-725, and AK-726 have been released. Download the sounds below. Once extracted from the .rar, you can place the sounds in the corresponding audio folders to replace the existing files.

https://vk.com/doc484971298_592970855?hash=f6f09a9be6c99fb586

SkulSS

04-18-21, 01:26 AM

Changes in 2.29 version (update 18.04.21):
-New model of the USS Ohio
-New visual cavitation effect
-Fine-tune the AI during combat
-Edits to the AI navigation on the global map
-Specify the names of cities on the map
-Adjusted the noise level of the torpedoes
-Sensor sensitivity is adjusted
-USS Permit Removed in 2002
-Spearfish torpedoes Removed in 1984
-Tu-142 Removed in 1968
-Removed "time travelers"
-Edit the visual effects of submarines
-Edits of prefixes, texts, etc.

Download here: Cold Waters Epic Mod (http://coldhunter.ru)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxJomkh0w5A

dsawan

04-18-21, 02:59 AM

qhwn i try to dlwd get a blank screen instead. any fix?

Swordsman422

04-22-21, 01:50 PM

Loving the new Ohio. The SSGN is a real convoy killer.

NavyGuy570

04-28-21, 04:32 PM

Loving the new Ohio. The SSGN is a real convoy killer.

Your welcome.

Dainem

05-24-21, 04:37 AM

Hello.

I am interested in Cold Waters. Should I begin with the epic Mod from the start or with the base game? Does the mod change the base game vastly or does it only add things? Is the game more difficult with the mod?

Dainem

05-24-21, 03:22 PM

Hello again.

I have bought the game and installed the epic mod. Just finished the tutorial. Now I like to play some single player missions. Some questions:

What are the meanings of the different colors?

Are some missions easier than others? Any recommendations for a newby?

Which submarine is best suited for a beginner?

If I play the duel mission is the enemy randomly selected?

SkulSS

06-06-21, 03:33 AM

Changes in 2.31 version (update 06.06.21):
-New model of the SSGN Oscar-II
-Updated visual effect of cavitation on all submarines
-New algorithm for passive homing of torpedoes
-Configuring the AI behavior in the event of a torpedo threat
-Advanced use of weapons by AI
-Reconfiguring the strength of the torpedo wire
-Reconfiguring the effectiveness of missiles
-Fix errors in the log when playing on SSN Akula
-Fixed cavitation of UGST, Spearfish, Tigerfish torpedoes
-Modified models and textures of Spearfish, Tigerfish torpedoes
-Fixes in NATO Campaigns
-Fixed SSBN Xia torpedo tubes
-Fix DDG Spruance effects and maneuvering
-Fix of torpedo tubes of the SSBN Delta III
-Fix the noise level and the maximum depth of the SSBN Yankee
-Fix of the maximum depth of the SSN Sierra / SSN Sierra-II
-Fixed ammunition of the SSN Victor-II, etc.

Download here: Cold Waters Epic Mod (http://coldhunter.ru)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgQap3cRMc4

SkulSS

06-12-21, 08:21 PM

Update 09.06.21

-Fixed immortal PLAN Sovremenny class
-Edits of maneuvering and visual effects of all Chinese ships
-A more competent setting of the torpedo search depth of the AI
-Reduced darkness at depth(изменено)

:Kaleun_Salute:

Spielmann

06-19-21, 04:31 PM

SkulSS Thank you for the new mod! All I can say about the new Oskar is .... WOW!!!! :Kaleun_Applaud:

youngsalt

06-29-21, 10:39 AM

Okay so I don't know what it is but every time I play, the game will run great with no lag or issues for about 10 - 15 minutes, then I get huge lag spikes and the game pretty much freezes, ill get like 1 frame every 30 seconds and it just basically stops the whole game. Half the time I end up just closing the program and restarting. Anyone else have similar issues? I tried googling the problem but havent found a solution yet.

Aktungbby

06-29-21, 11:02 AM

youngsalt!:Kaleun_Salute:

youngsalt

07-01-21, 01:58 PM

So I think I fixed the problem, I just reinstalled it. Moved the game from my HDD to SSD.

RobRem

07-02-21, 02:10 AM

hi guys

first post yay :)

can i get some assist with installing epic mod please?

i have the lastest epic mod

i have loaded, unpacked and pasted to: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Cold Waters

Ran installer

activated: Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Cold Waters\Cold Waters Epic Mod 2.31 (09.06.21)\MODS]

1. ???????? ??? - Epic Mod 2.31 (Main Mod)
2a. ???. ????? - ????????? ?????? ????????????? (optional - All 3 control panels are visible and are at the bottom of the screen)

closed all and ran game however the game is still stock

any ideas please?

Help please

TIA

FPSchazly

07-02-21, 07:22 AM

activated: Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Cold Waters\Cold Waters Epic Mod 2.31 (09.06.21)\MODS]

Hello. There's your problem. Take everything in that folder and move it one folder down "common\Cold Waters" and try installing again. Your folder path should look like this:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Cold Waters\MODS

RobRem

07-02-21, 07:24 PM

Thanks for the assist FPS

Aktungbby

07-02-21, 11:15 PM

RobRem!:Kaleun_Salute:

FPSchazly

07-03-21, 03:21 PM

Thanks for the assist FPS

You're welcome! :Kaleun_Salute:

CJMars

07-14-21, 04:02 PM

I installed the Epic Mod and now everything is in Russian. Is there an English translated version?

steel shark

07-21-21, 06:07 PM

ive got a bit of free time from work for a while so im going to use some of that time to make some new stuff & use some of my unreleased work for :

Epic Mod

Dot Mod

PBS ( Playable-Subs )

Coldwaters 1.15g ( vanilla Version )

These New files will also be a thank you from (Me) to those that have Continued to used my V@rious Downlo@ds

Steel Shark

SkulSS

08-05-21, 08:17 AM

Hi all!

Changes in 2.32 version (update 05.08.21):
-New model of pr.885 "Yasen" (Graney)
-Reconfiguration of wire breakage of torpedoes
-Reconfiguration of Towed array breakage (over 28 knots)
-New icons on the minimap as in DW (torpedoes, missiles, SAM)
-New coastal maneuvering algorithm (work in progress)
-Fix AI maneuvering in shallow water
-Fix the position of the periscope on pr.949a (Oscar-II)
-Fix cavitation SSN Virginia
-Fix cavitation SSN Sturgeon
-Fix cavitation SSBN Resolution
-Fix cavitation SSBN Vanguard
-Fix cavitation pr.659 (Echo-I)
-Fix cavitation pr.675 (Echo-II)
-Fix cavitation pr.661 "Anchar" (Papa)
-Fix missions in the Amsterdam area
-Correction of visibility underwater, etc.

Download here: Cold Waters Epic Mod (http://coldhunter.ru)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGeF8vSwu0Q

Kal_Maximus_U669

08-06-21, 04:57 PM

thank you again for this superb mod which continues to improve once again our russian friends show their know-how ... thank you for your mod хорошее продолжение в ваших проектах. :Kaleun_Salute:

spacemishka

08-22-21, 03:57 AM

hi there...

thanks for the nice mod. But why performs the ADCAP so poor....compared to the vanilla Version?

thanks!

NavyGuy570

08-22-21, 09:51 PM

If you’re looking for something similar to EpicMod, but uses more realistic stars, I recommend DotMod. Instead of being biased towards certain countries and capabilities, DotMod tries to use as close to real stats as possible. The ADCAP is still the king, but there are several Russian torpedoes that follow close behind.

itsjero

08-28-21, 04:14 PM

Okay so i understand from the changelog they did some work on the whole wire break deal.

However, i have a few installs of cold water. The reason is i have edited a lot of text files, so i have an install for russian navy, american navy, super sim hardcore mode, and then like an arcade mode.

All the other installs i use i dont mind the wire break stuff. Its legit and just part of the game to even the balance.

However, in the "arcade" mode version i have installed, i have the wirebreak setup to where the wires just dont break. I can launch a spread, and then haul ass across the map and reposition, and in the past before the newest epic mod release ( august 5 2021 relase.. the lastest one i think 2.32 )

Anyways, now once i move my sub, the wires break.. period. I have gone in and checked out my text files for this "version" of the game i have setup, and the wirebreakthreshold i have set is like for 1200 knots. Everything in this "arcade mode" install i have moves much faster. Boats move faster, weapons, etc.

I basically made a version of the game that is super arcadey.. where you can just go in and shoot up and blow stuff up. Its for when i only have like a half our or so to play, so i can jump in and sink some stuff.. and like fill the urge i have to play the game without setting aside like 2 hours to play a super sim-style game.

Anyways, again the newest epic mod they changed the wire break stuff. now, no matter what i edit in the .txt files, the wires break as soon as i steer my sub to another course maybe.. more than 15 degrees or so, and as soon as i increase speed they break too.

Doesnt matter what i put in the .txt files, so im wondering if there are any devs out there or anyone familiar with the newest epic mod release and setting up the wirebreakthreshold value to one that makes the wires basically never break. Sure its a cheat of sorts, but again its for an arcadey version i play and now no matter what i edit or do, the wires break.

And in all honesty, they break in the regular installs of the epic mod FAR easier than past releases of the epid mod.

So id hate to roll back and go to the previous mod revision because the newest revision also lets me play many other subs in campaign mode than just the like 3 i was given in the past. So that along with alot of the new features kick ass and i dont want to roll back because ill lose those features.

But i really would like to know where the new settings for the wirebreakthreshold across the game are.. and if they are editable? This is usually done by vessell, but it seems now there is an overal setting for wirebreak that seems to override whatever the vesells settings are.

So, hope that makes sense and hope someone can help me out.

Badger343rd

08-29-21, 10:37 AM

There are two places for wire breakage...in the weapon.txt itself (for individual weapon)and the config file. I wish I could tell you HOW they work together but I simply don't know.

steel shark

08-31-21, 02:41 AM

SkulSS

When i first Saw Epic Mod I was Amazed and Still am at the Vast Improvement's its brought to Coldwaters ive modded it since Version 2.11 to 2.28

Its True that some of Epic Mods Original Members have now formed Dotmod and given this some of Dotmod Stuff is due you .....

However the work and efforts of DotMod Members that were never ever anything to do with EPIC Mod you most Certainly DONT have any rights Or Claims too .....

If people just take what they want this will Discourage people to share files and Work which will hurt us all In the long run

Steel Shark

Badger343rd

09-03-21, 11:21 AM

hmmmmmm...this is a dilemma...atleast for me it is. I'm not happy having to choose between the two, I'd be happier if they would work at combining the best of both into one. But not knowing the circumstances between the 2 groups makes my opinion mute. I mean they(DOT)gave everyone permission to build on their work as long as credit was given...BUT...not too EPIC?? Epic has supported advancement in this title for along time now ,and I think people are loyal to that commitment. On the other hand people are also up in arms about Epics move to include DOT assets(but credited I assume). Dot contributors are angry and have made that very clear. It's a sad situation all round. I'm fortunate enough to have the time and where with all to make CW what I want it to be for me, while most CW players don't. I say ignore the turf war...play the game that suits you...hope they work it out in the end.

Able72

09-06-21, 05:02 PM

Ok, first, I love the mod. Awesome! I love all the added subs. The fact that I can't survive more than a few missions . . . eh, I just need to improve.

Question though, What movie is shown as the opening scenes for the mod? I think I might like to see it.

Badger343rd

09-06-21, 06:53 PM

Hunter killer

Able72

09-06-21, 08:47 PM

Hunter killer

Thank you.

Bly

09-09-21, 07:39 PM

I've been watching MagzTV playing this mod on his Youtube series and it has inspired me to reinstall Cold Waters and give the mod a go. Look forward to playing.

SkulSS

09-13-21, 09:22 AM

Hi all!

Cold Waters Epic Mod 2.33 fix1 (update 13.09.21):

-New pr.885M "Yasen-M" (Graney) model
-New SSN Virginia model
-New SSN Trafalgar model
-New SSN Nautilus model
-New SS Oberon model
-New SS Kobben model
-New FFG O.H. Perry model
-New DD Spruance model
-New CG Ticonderoga model
-New BB Iowa model
-New Type 21 frigate model
-New model of SAM SA-N-9 Gauntlet
-New model of SAM SAM SA-N-1
-New model of SAM SA-N-4 Gecko
-New model of SAM SA-N-7 Gadfly
-New model of SAM SA-N-6 Grumble
-New model of SAM RIM-2 / RIM-24 / RIM-66 / RIM-67A
-New model of SAM RIM-7 Sea Sparrow
-New UUM-125 Sea Lance model
-New SS-N-21 Sampson model
-New SS-N-22 Sunburn model
-New SS-N-9 Siren model
-New SS-N-3A Shaddock model
-New MANPADS models
-New ICBM models
-New UGST (Futlyar/Fizik) model
-New SAET-60M model
-New MK-50 model
-New Mark-8 model
-New Mark-20s model
-New Mark-23 model
-New Tigerfish model
-New Spearfish model
-Fixes pr.949A (Oscar-II) model
-Fixes pr.885 "Ash" (Graney) model
-Optimization of loading models
-Update visual effects
-Update interface
-Update AI, etc.

fix1 (update 13.09.21)
-Fix quick missions in English
-Fix default HUD on submarine

Download removed by moderator order -Admiral Prower

How to install
1) Throw "ColdWaters_Data" into the main folder of the game
2) Add. options are connected at will in the same way
3) Run ColdWaters.exe

-Metric system, text and voice acting language, Uninstall mod - in game options.
-New game required.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OzAOINhiQ

SkulSS

09-14-21, 01:14 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14WRPg2PKpM

xceptor

09-14-21, 02:52 PM

Isnt this a direct copy of DOTmod? Are you guys collaborating? Or is it a combination of epic and dotmod together. This is getting confusing...

NavyGuy570

09-14-21, 07:08 PM

Isnt this a direct copy of DOTmod? Are you guys collaborating? Or is it a combination of epic and dotmod together. This is getting confusing...

Collaborating lmao….. no, not in the slightest. Epic&Fun (SkullSS) stole everything from DotMod and is publishing it as part of EpicMod, He was repeatedly told not to, and it even says in the DotMod license that nothing from DotMod can be put into EpicMod. EpicMod 2.33 is a direct rip of DotMod 0.2a.

https://imgur.com/a/T1YOAuT

xceptor

09-15-21, 10:00 AM

Collaborating lmao….. no, not in the slightest. Epic&Fun (SkullSS) stole everything from DotMod and is publishing it as part of EpicMod, He was repeatedly told not to, and it even says in the DotMod license that nothing from DotMod can be put into EpicMod. EpicMod 2.33 is a direct rip of DotMod 0.2a.

https://imgur.com/a/T1YOAuT

oh wow...

Why would they/he do that though? is there a financial interest out of steam or something? Or is it the deathrattle of a bitter empty creator?
Horrible ...

Uninstalling Epicmod then.

steel shark

09-15-21, 11:50 AM

This Coming Conflict and BLATENT theft was expected

From Epic Mod discord see pic at bottom for proof in case he deletes The history or something

Epic_Fun — 05/11/2021
cry from the heart. This mod is author's, is distributed freely, I have never asked anything from anyone, neither from the authors of the music, nor from the authors of pictures, and actually from the authors of the game, this is my vision, I made myself for the joy and those who downloaded and just playing, no one forced anyone to do for the mod, who helps - well done, thank you! Dot, I’m waiting for your developments to take them apart, people are waiting, and I’ll put your Campaign in the mod as a whole, since you have already been indicated in the credits for a long time.
Jump

Evgeniy Mas — 05/11/2021
Now we have two frontlines! Epic mod and Dot mod.

Holleywar was begin!

Now AS for the scale of the thefts THE DOT MOD contents In yellow

Cold Waters Epic Mod 2.33

-New pr.885M "Yasen-M" (Graney) model
-New SSN Virginia model
-New SSN Trafalgar model
-New SSN Nautilus model
-New SS Oberon model
-New SS Kobben model
-New FFG O.H. Perry model
-New DD Spruance model
-New CG Ticonderoga model
-New BB Iowa model
-New Type 21 frigate model
-New model of SAM SA-N-9 Gauntlet
-New model of SAM SAM SA-N-1
-New model of SAM SA-N-4 Gecko
-New model of SAM SA-N-7 Gadfly
-New model of SAM SA-N-6 Grumble
-New model of SAM RIM-2 / RIM-24 / RIM-66 / RIM-67A
-New model of SAM RIM-7 Sea Sparrow
-New UUM-125 Sea Lance model
-New SS-N-21 Sampson model
-New SS-N-22 Sunburn model
-New SS-N-9 Siren model
-New SS-N-3A Shaddock model
-New MANPADS models
-New ICBM models
-New UGST (Futlyar/Fizik) model
-New SAET-60M model
-New MK-50 model
-New Mark-8 model
-New Mark-20s model
-New Mark-23 model
-New Tigerfish model
-New Spearfish model
-Fixes pr.949A (Oscar-II) model
-Fixes pr.885 "Ash" (Graney) model
-Optimization of loading models
-Update visual effects
-Update interface .... ENTIRE DOTMOD HUD STOLEN
-Update AI, etc.

fix1 (update 13.09.21)
-Fix quick missions in English <-----O the English was broken on launch Guess they never tested it

-Fix default HUD on submarine

i haven't played epic mod in ages so one or 2 of the weapons models might be EM stuff Dough it tho

O others .....

-Metric system, text and voice acting language, Uninstall mod - in game options....ENTIRE Menu system and coding stolen

Voice acting Language Update BTW is my work This i Dont mind being in COPY MOD ...sORRY ePIC mOD

as its better Audio for the English players that use it

This is What your dealing with If you use this game As it is at the moment What a shame & a waste..... And as i make Games and help others make games My self this matter is close to my heart

Steel Shark

Tonci87

09-15-21, 02:31 PM

Well that is quite horrible.
I´m sure that a collaboration could have been achieved if the maker of the Epic mod wasn´t such a C*** about this.

I´m curious to see how the Dot Mod will be developed further.

I guess it will surpass the Epic Mod easily if it continues with such a speed.

simking

09-18-21, 07:08 PM

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BENICK

10-03-21, 03:50 AM

Quite interesting version.
As far as I have noticed:
1. UUM missile torpedoes missing from U.S nuc subs
2. When playing with a US sub, Own ship sign on hud is Russian while the target sign is US sub.

Aktungbby

10-03-21, 10:12 AM

Simking!:Kaleun_Salute: & Bly!:Kaleun_Salute:

SkulSS

10-04-21, 07:55 AM

DotMod is a stolen copy of Epic Mod, to which they have added their own developments and are now trying to present it as their own mod. 95% of ship and boat files are stolen from Epic Mod, 100% of awards are stolen from Epic Mod, half of weapons and parameters are stolen from Epic Mod. So after that, their claims look ridiculous. :Kaleun_Salute:

steel shark

10-04-21, 11:14 AM

First Off please all Read On this thread my post at #306 and look at picture Thank you

SHALL WE BEGIN .......

First Off Epic Mods Main Vessel Additions are based off Original Cold Waters & Playable Subs

so if you remove PBS & the stolen DotMod Models Which by the way are not In any ways connected to EM as they were made for dot Mod by People that either left EM or were never part of em at all EVER ....!!!!

you really dont have much Original Content DO YOU!!!!! On the Vessel Counts

Just a few kit bash Models & a few original Models you actually made + weapons models

People only have to look at older EM version say 2.32 to see the drastic Massive Changes ranging from code to huds to models Menu settings ect From the stuff you took and shoved in to EM 2.33

Also 95% Humm ....

Cold Waters Epic Mod 2.33 (12.09.21)

3.20 GB (3,437,162,496 bytes)

ColdWaters-DotMod

588 MB (616,824,832 bytes)

Some Of DotMod Members did work on EM stuff at one point so they have spent time making stuff in EM that gives them some rights in this area now projects get multiple people adding and contributing i get it

but........

Just because some of the DotMod team was at one point part of EM Doesn't give you the right to take their new works as your OWN !!!!!

like your team DotMod has many people adding and contributing to it

so i under stand were you coming from on a certain level but the members work that were never ever any thing to do with EM your arguments completely Rubbish

I think your own words say it better then i can

Epic_Fun — 05/11/2021
cry from the heart. This mod is author's, is distributed freely, I have never asked anything from anyone, neither from the authors of the music, nor from the authors of pictures, and actually from the authors of the game, this is my vision, I made myself for the joy and those who downloaded and just playing, no one forced anyone to do for the mod, who helps - well done, thank you! Dot, I’m waiting for your developments to take them apart, people are waiting, and I’ll put your Campaign in the mod as a whole, since you have already been indicated in the credits for a long time.

I’m waiting for your developments to take them apart ------ your words not mine

ill let you argue with your self

O while Im hear

Yellow is DotMod Stuff

Changes in 2.32 version (update 05.08.21):
-New model of pr.885 "Yasen" (Graney)
-Reconfiguration of wire breakage of torpedoes
-Reconfiguration of Towed array breakage (over 28 knots)
-New icons on the minimap as in DW (torpedoes, missiles, SAM)
-New coastal maneuvering algorithm (work in progress)
-Fix AI maneuvering in shallow water
-Fix the position of the periscope on pr.949a (Oscar-II)
-Fix cavitation SSN Virginia
-Fix cavitation SSN Sturgeon
-Fix cavitation SSBN Resolution
-Fix cavitation SSBN Vanguard
-Fix cavitation pr.659 (Echo-I)
-Fix cavitation pr.675 (Echo-II)
-Fix cavitation pr.661 "Anchar" (Papa)
-Fix missions in the Amsterdam area
-Correction of visibility underwater, etc.

Funny how DotMod Came out with this .......Then you all of sudden YOU MANAGED TO implement new mini map code & icons

Amazing Coincidence ..............

Even EM 2.32 has Their Work in it .......

as for weapons and parameters you started with PBS yes ? so its all EM only stuff yes ? ...... you haven't retained Original CW & PBS stuff ? AT ALL ?

Ill be Honest i really wanted EM & DM to Collaborate and Improve each other but they way you Dealt with matters meant this is Impossible

Steel Shark

SkulSS

10-10-21, 02:08 PM

Hi all!

Cold Waters Epic Mod 2.33 fix2 (update 10.10.21):

-Fix a critical bug in Campaigns on missile submarines
-Fix ballistic trajectories of ASR and ICBM
-Fix the noise of some submarines
-Fix periscope depth pr.629 (Golf)
-Fix texture bug pr.641 (Foxtrot)
-Fix missile missions on pr.651 (Juliet)
-Fix the position of the retractable pr.671RT (Victor II)
-Fix position of Towed array, cavitation SSBN Vanguard
-Fix cavitation SS Cobben
-Fix of cavitation of torpedoes SET-40, MK-46, MK-48
-Fix the wake of DDG Kidd, CG Leahu
-Fix sounds of torpedoes, submarines, ships, guns, etc.

Download removed by moderator order -Admiral Prower

How to install:
1) Throw "ColdWaters_Data" into the main folder of the game
2) Add. options are connected at will in the same way
3) Run ColdWaters.exe

-Metric system, text and voice acting language, Uninstall mod - in game options.

Have fun!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz3w3oyHwag&t=6s

fritolay

10-20-21, 09:28 AM

Hi just a few Qs. Which HuD option am I supposed to use? There seem to be buttons new buttons new methods, and I don't know if i'm setup properly. Also how do you work with heli's? Is there a pdf guide or a reference for this mod I should look for?

- Yikes Didn't realize there was a modder conflict.

Sub Stantial

10-26-21, 05:49 PM

Hi,

first off, a huge thank you to all the authors of this wonderful mod. It really brings CW to a whole new level!

Secondly, I'd have a question about land stike missions: long story short, I've been already assigned a couple of times to these in my Akula 1984 Atlantic Map campaign.

Now, every single time I've tried these missions, it always goes like this: one (or more) of the enemy ships runs aground and I can't sink them anymore, as they're in too shallow waters and even wire-guided torpedoes hit the sea bottom before reaching them.
So, when I fire missiles at the target (Holy Loch, in this case), many of them get shot down by that ship's anti-missile countermeasures, even if I position my sub between the ship and the objective and get as close as possible to the target.

Is this a known bug? What can I do in order to complete this kind of missions succesfully? I thought about loading something like 20 missiles (instead of the required 8) to account for possible losses due to interception, but this is obviously not an ideal solution (nor does it even guarantee that enough of them won't be shot down anyway).

Thank you in advance!

SkulSS

10-31-21, 09:19 AM

Hi all!

Release 2.33 fix3 (update 30.10.21):

-Fix missile guidance to ground targets
-Fix cavitation pr.658M (Hotel-II)
-Fix cavitation SET-65, SS-N-21 «SAMPSON»
-Fix foam USN CG Leahu, DDG Kidd
-Fix the depth of search for torpedoes
-Rearmament of Victor-III, British submarines 1968
-Corrections guidance and warhead UMGT-1
-Correction of British torpedoes
-Corrections of noise of slow torpedoes
-Corrections of the interface in English
-Correction of damage on difficulty Elite, etc.

Download removed by moderator order -Admiral Prower
:Kaleun_Salute:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-htcr-94RU&t=460s

SpeedyPC

11-01-21, 12:25 PM

G'day SkulSS

You bloody RIPPER! :yeah:

However playing the submarine at normal speed with you're latest mod v2.33 fix3 is slower than the original Cold Water submarine at normal speed during the game, could you please fix this issue, thanks.

Have a great day :up:

SpeedyPC

11-01-21, 10:49 PM

G'day SkulSS,

I'm currently using you're latest Release 2.33 fix3 expic mod, please see attachment when using your mod, because, the stinger tab and this issue is from the d. Optional HUD - Line (3+1).

Thank you.

Click image below.
https://i.postimg.cc/RJdcdh1V/Fix-Stinger-Hud.png (https://postimg.cc/RJdcdh1V)

Delareon

11-05-21, 07:45 AM

Im very very new to the Game (to be exact, i bought it 2 Hours ago :D ).
But i allready heard about the Mod.
Can someone explain me in a few sentences what this Mod is all about?
I see many Bug Fixes but no Description for an overall Goal or something like that.

Thanks

NavyGuy570

11-07-21, 12:48 PM

This mod is about stealing the work of others, claiming that work to be original to EpicMod, and when confronted, claim the victims of the theft are thrives themselves, with no evidence.

U-190

11-11-21, 05:41 PM

:Kaleun_Applaud::Kaleun_Thumbs_Up::Kaleun_Salute:

SpeedyPC

11-14-21, 08:04 PM

G'day Subsim,

In the latest Cold Waters Epic Mod 2.33 fix3 (update 30.10.21) the Australian Collins class SS submarine home port is not base in US Washington, their home port is mainly base in Perth, Queensland and Darwin.

Australian Collins class SS naval operation patrol is mainly around the Papua New Guinea, Indonesia, Malaysia and in the Philippines, they can travel to Gulf of Thailand, South China Sea and Philippines Sea, also they've done wargames naval mission patrol around the Yellow Sea and the Sea of Japan with South Korea and Japan many years back in the pass.

Because the Australian Collins class has never reached or done any naval patrol in the North and South of Atlantic, hopefully in the near future when the Australian received their first nurclear power submarines they'll be able to do any naval mission patrol anywhere around the world.

I would like to have our Australian warships and subs located to their original home port in Australia and not mainly base in US.

Thank you.

FoxtrotF

11-14-21, 09:47 PM

@steel shark you have time to put such amount of text, but unable even to decrease mod loading time? To confirm you can simply show mesh screenshots in QUADS, so everyone could see that unique of models.

steel shark

11-15-21, 04:28 PM

I'm nothing to do with epic mod their loading times are their problems

&

Dot Mod loads Fast far as i know

but i only contribute to that not a team member so not sure what you getting at

my Currently released stuff for DM & Em are add-ons not replacers so the mod still controls load times ect

my older projects i abandoned as i knew id not be able to release em to the quality i wanted and other real world matters took priority so i simply didn't have enough time

SO your comment i don't understand at all ?

Steel Shark

steel shark

11-15-21, 08:33 PM

FoxtrotF you mistaking a post I've not made i remember now

my posts were only on subsim and were over 24 separate images under construction or consideration or modification

that quad image is made up of some of my separate posts and wasn't made by me but did use some of my images so no idea who made it

i stopped work on a few projects many months back due to family matters

so any other posts you have seen that are not subsim isn't done by me to be clear on this matter only other thing I've recently used is discord

Steel Shark

dannavy85

11-17-21, 07:55 PM

Just saying, seeing some slav and Russian names mentioned here...as an American I hope we and the Russians never come to actual blows. As a retired Sailor in the USN I've always had a great respect for our Russian counterparts.

Treetop64

12-21-21, 09:45 PM

3rotor

12-31-21, 05:09 AM

does anyone have any old versions of epic mod hosted?

im trying to upgrade from 2.26 and have downloaded latest version of 2.33 r3 - the epicmod installer is not included nor when i copied the files that are included over it hasnt updated it

Texas Red

01-01-22, 07:54 PM

Recently DL'd Epic Mod 2.33. Been running some quick missions, mainly cold war era ASW.

Elite difficulty, 1:1 scale and time. Playing a Riga FF against cold war era US subs, either a Skipjack, Permit, or Sturgeon. I'm going along at flank speed 28 knots and yet somehow I'm still able to passively track a US sub - a Sturgeon most recently - that's idling along at 5 knots, below a layer, and at more than 15 kilometers away? He's too far away for active, even when I'm stationary.

These are the only kind of custom single missions I've run and the result has been the same every time. Reliable tracking of silent running US subs at impossible ranges, with the surface ship moving at speeds that should render it blind.

Also, forgot to mention; US subs are firing torpedoes seemingly at random, in any random direction, with the torps going in a snake pattern as soon as its fired.

Proof that the mod is extremely biased and favors your opponent every single time.
Epic Mod has been stealing from Dot Mod on numerous occasions. Will the Subsim mods allow this blatant violation of Dot Mod's right to ownership to continue?
It is incredibly disheartening to see the moderators stand by while Epic continues to steal from Dot Mod. It is not fair to the creators of Dot Mod and the people who spent countless hours designing the brilliant features of Dot Mod. I sincerely hope that action is taken in the near future to prevent this from happening.
At the very least, the moderators could revoke Epic's "Best of 2020" award for obvious reasons.

Aktungbby

01-01-22, 09:16 PM

3rotor! after a long silent run!:Kaleun_Salute:

SpeedyPC

01-01-22, 09:35 PM

Proof that the mod is extremely biased and favors your opponent every single time.
Epic Mod has been stealing from Dot Mod on numerous occasions. Will the Subsim mods allow this blatant violation of Dot Mod's right to ownership to continue?
It is incredibly disheartening to see the moderators stand by while Epic continues to steal from Dot Mod. It is not fair to the creators of Dot Mod and the people who spent countless hours designing the brilliant features of Dot Mod. I sincerely hope that action is taken in the near future to prevent this from happening.
At the very least, the moderators could revoke Epic's "Best of 2020" award for obvious reasons.

DotMod will continue to RULE the whole Ocean, Epic Mod just sit back and wait and keep on collectiing the US, British, France, Canadain and Australian Naval mod data, and Epic Mod still create more Russian subs and warships design so he can RULE against the West in the entire Ocean while playing only Russian Naval Warfare.

Texas Red

01-02-22, 07:11 PM

DotMod will continue to RULE the whole Ocean, Epic Mod just sit back and wait and keep on collectiing the US, British, France, Canadain and Australian Naval mod data, and Epic Mod still create more Russian subs and warships design so he can RULE against the West in the entire Ocean while playing only Russian Naval Warfare.

Sure, I think I know what you mean. :hmmm:

SpeedyPC

01-03-22, 05:24 AM

Sure, I think I know what you mean. :hmmm:
If you look very closely at the Epic mod game and the mission layout you'll see a lot more Russian than the US, British, France, Canadain and Australian Naval fleet misson, on the other hand DotMod really need to catch up against Epic and the way I see it.

He's just collecting the data to expand the Russian fleet and mission.

Would you agree....... Epic mod is Russian and he's catching up... DotMod is falling way be behind on their own fleet.

Tonci87

01-03-22, 11:37 AM

I personally care more about gameplay, than about the number of ship models in the game.
Who is ahead in that department?

SpeedyPC

01-04-22, 04:27 AM

I personally care more about gameplay, than about the number of ship models in the game.
Who is ahead in that department?

That will be the Epic mod creator about the whole gameplay only for Epic mod, you can reach to him via Discord

Texas Red

01-04-22, 11:53 AM

Epic keeps on stealing models from Dot Mod. He has so many more units because he uses similar ships for those positions. He previously had Russian landing craft under an American flag for the NATO side and then when DotMod came out with new models, he took them.

Ref:
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2768202&postcount=301

NavyGuy570

01-04-22, 12:27 PM

If you look very closely at the Epic mod game and the mission layout you'll see a lot more Russian than the US, British, France, Canadain and Australian Naval fleet misson, on the other hand DotMod really need to catch up against Epic and the way I see it.

He's just collecting the data to expand the Russian fleet and mission.

Would you agree....... Epic mod is Russian and he's catching up... DotMod is falling way be behind on their own fleet.

This is not the point of DotMod. Instead of copy and pasting by the same subs just to create new content that often ends up being ****, they take their time to ensure that it’s quality and it works as intended. Also the gameplay is better, and a lot of the mechanics and improvements that EpicMod uses have been taken from DotMod, and there are some that haven’t been stolen yet.

If you’re just looking for loads of bull**** content to play, EpicMod would be best. But if you want a mod that feels like it’s a real, quality update to the game, that would be DotMod.

Texas Red

01-04-22, 02:04 PM

This is what I was trying to say. They make an effort.

The Perry

01-06-22, 07:25 PM

There is a way to make it playable ships like Type 21 or Framm Destroyers? I have try but whitout results

Aktungbby

01-06-22, 07:40 PM

The Perry!:Kaleun_Salute:

NavyGuy570

01-06-22, 11:51 PM

There is a way to make it playable ships like Type 21 or Framm Destroyers? I have try but whitout results

Wrong mod.

SkulSS

01-07-22, 11:19 AM

Hi all!

Changes in 2.34 version (update 07.01.22):

-New torpedo/missile homing system
-New model pr.955 (Borei)
-New model pr.665 (Whiskey Long Bin)
-Added a smooth disappearance of smoke from rockets
-Change the effects of the explosion of missiles
-Improving the color of smoke in cloudy weather
-Increased visibility
-Added modification of pr.659T (Echo I)
-Added ASW SS-N-16 "Stallion" 650mm
-Added torpedo MGT-1 400mm
-Added torpedo SET-72 400mm
-The ASW SS-N-15 "Starfish" 650mm is used
-Fix critical bugs in NATO Campaign 2000
-Fix Towed array on Astute Class SSN
-Fix wire control on Valiant Class SSN
-Fix cavitation Narwhal Class SSN
-Fix the probability of meeting Narwhal Class SSN
-Fix the trajectory of the ICBM flight
-Fix the maneuvering of slow torpedoes
-Fix the maneuverability of MANPADS missiles
-Fix Towead arrays on Ships, which have them
-Fix the probability of dipole clouds
-Fix the probability of shooting down missiles in 1968
-Fix news events of the USSR 1968
-Fix AI under ice cover
-More aggressive AI, etc.

Download removed by moderator order -Admiral Prower

:Kaleun_Salute:

SkulSS

01-07-22, 09:12 PM

* Hotfix - explosion of SS-N-27B Sizzler when starting from SSBN Borei
* Hotfix - pr.885M cavitation (Yasen-M)
-Explosions of warheads upon impact on the bottom of the ships

link updated

SkulSS

01-08-22, 12:48 AM

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15Z7qaPkwHsHg-I7LVB238e6unPbgcPO4/view?usp=sharing

Just so you know, the Dot team stole the content first, and now they are complaining that they got the same thing in return. That's all I wanted to say

SkulSS

01-08-22, 12:54 AM

https://disk.yandex.ru/i/b8n9jGHmW8o08Q

SkulSS

01-08-22, 12:56 AM

Sorry, can't attach screenshots

SkulSS

01-08-22, 01:03 AM

Screenshot https://drive.google.com/file/d/15Z7qaPkwHsHg-I7LVB238e6unPbgcPO4/view

Cy-Fox

01-08-22, 10:29 AM

Due to an ongoing dispute between Epic Mod and the Dot Mod development groups in regards to asset theft among other concerns, it is hereby ordered that discussion of both mods is hereby suspended indefinitely. Threads related to either will be closed non-punitively unless determined to be in direct and deliberate violation of the topic spamming rules.

Furthermore both Epic Mod and Dot Mod are also suspended from consideration for any Mod of the Year contests.

Update from 17 January 2022 - Due to the updates made to DotMod 0.3b4 that have been verified by myself, the restriction on DotMod is being lifted. The restriction on EpicMod remains in place.
Update from 31 March 2022 - Due to Epic Mod continuing to take material from DotMod without permission, the suspension of EpicMod on SUBSIM assets continues. No threads about Epic Mod are permitted.

Admiral Prower
SUBSIM Radio Room Moderator for Cold Waters
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