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bacchusxxx22
04-04-20, 06:13 AM
I have made a version where the weather every 2 minutes updates. (Works with v16b1)

In this video you can see the weather( in this case only wind direction) change every 2 minutes.

In earlier attempts, after hitting the time accelerator the weather would stuck as a result. Making the weather change ca. all 5 days and the whole time no windchange.

This is fixed now and I have the whole patrol 2 minute update.

Wich makes storm for days and similar disappear.

Does anyone has the same expierience?

Regular weather changes

Looks now really nice
The max the game can give


VIDEO:

https://youtu.be/BRJRWQm3FFI

Fifi
04-04-20, 07:23 AM
:hmmm: Every 2 minutes?...don’t you think it’s a bit too much?

For sure time compression has an impact on weather change because of inside game clock running off (i think) after some time at high compression.
That’s why i try to never pass X1024.

Perso, i like to keep same weather for around 2/3 days, and playing GWX with HSIe patch (weather fix UNTICKED) + Hsie Supplement for 16b1 + Stiebler add-on + Stiebler Env SIM Act 10 gives me quite accurate weather changes.
Again no more than X1024 TC!

While this is true for GWX, it doesn’t work well for LSH3 nor Ccom12...
I suspect some file somewhere is interacting and break this nice set up.
With same setting as above for GWX, i sometime get stuck with very bad weather and heavy fog for too long time...Hsie weather fix ticked or unticked...
So lately, in Ccom12 i do not apply the Hsie supplement mod nor the Stiebler add-on nor the Env SIM act 10, and just valid the Hsie weather fix box.
Result is i get same weather for lets say around 4 days...sometimes less, sometimes more.

I’m not fan of too much weather change, it can bring sides effects ingame...when hunting a convoy for instance.

bacchusxxx22
04-04-20, 07:51 AM
Hi it's a very very sensible thing this weather files, yes.

My configuration:
Most of the time3 - 4 hours only wind changes.

0 to 15 or similar only high time accelerator.

A whole day with no change is now past.

After a few hours the weather changes for sure. Up to 12 hours I think

This adjustment did not I.
Its the output of the simact 2016

bacchusxxx22
04-04-20, 08:01 AM
One imortant thing I always forget to mention:

The stiebler simact 2016 MAKES THE WIND DEGREE WORK.

However, look for yourself wich simact you are gonna to use.

It's the only one fixed simact.

And does the job very well

Fifi
04-04-20, 08:17 AM
Yes i have the Sim Act 10 from 2016, and it’s working nice with GWX. Not really with Ccom12 and LSH3.

bacchusxxx22
04-04-20, 08:18 AM
Yes, it's too much for the sh3 engine I suspect.

I think now everyone has the choice

To run a super mod with All that pipapo and absolutly stuck weather.(because sh3 can't handle it all together)

Or to choose a light package with wonderful realisticly simulatet weather .


Maybe with 4 gig patch it works smoother

Me has already sortied out all unnessesery.
The good thing is putting in the v16 does most of the job. These fixes are the break trough.



(But I have All affecting the weather off)

And some smaller 2d grafiks nek triangle, leer, etc...

bacchusxxx22
04-04-20, 08:24 AM
Yes i have the Sim Act 10 from 2016, and it’s working nice with GWX. Not really with Ccom12 and LSH3.

I have downloaded the stieber simact with the date 2016 here on subsim.

There are quite a lot with different date.

But I am not sure I now yours.

What's a simact 10 16?

I do have seen one with a date 2010 I think

But what's a simact 10 16

bacchusxxx22
04-04-20, 09:05 AM
[QUOTE=Fifi;2660069]:hmmm: Every 2 minutes?...don’t you think it’s a bit too

Perso, i like to keep same weather for around 2/3 days, and playing GWX with HSIe patch (weather fix UNTICKED) + Hsie Supplement for 16b1 + Stiebler add-on + Stiebler Env SIM Act 10 gives me quite accurate weather changes.
Again no more than X1024 TC







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Perso,when I encounter for 2 or 3 days no weather nor windchange I realize me playing a bugged game and turn the mashine off.

Fifi
04-04-20, 09:48 AM
My Env Sim Act 10 comes from here: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2392727&postcount=1
And it’s a 2016 one :salute:

bacchusxxx22
04-04-20, 09:58 AM
Ok. Than I think we use the same.

Sorry so much of info. I have seen the post before but have not remembered that he called it there simact 10.

Try only this (simact 2016)

In a clean 1.4 and you will see there is no need for further talk about the weather not correct.


It's the same file envsim.act 26.03.2016
This file activates the windchange in 2 min takt

And makes bug disappear in stock

The gwx 16 km atmosphere mod to correct the sun will run ok

John Pancoast
04-04-20, 02:35 PM
Fifi I run at 2048x at times and the weather changes ok then too. But I'm using the stock weather file.

Anvar1061
04-04-20, 03:10 PM
I run at 2048x at times
You risk missing everything sweet.

John Pancoast
04-04-20, 03:15 PM
You risk missing everything sweet.


Not at all. I only do it when there is a storm. Instead of the hassle of submerging/surfacing to recharge/submerging, etc. like they would have done in real life, I just do 2048x at two knots surfaced to simulate the same.


When the storm ends I resume normal patrol speeds, etc.


Can't attack/be attacked in a storm anyway, so the 2048x doesn't affect that.

bacchusxxx22
04-04-20, 03:50 PM
Once I got hit by destroyer in storm on accelerator. The game was over

try the simact 2016 in stock.

To get a overview how proper weather is simulatet

John Pancoast
04-04-20, 04:24 PM
Once I got hit by destroyer in storm on accelerator. The game was over

try the simact 2016 in stock.

To get a overview how proper weather is simulatet




Been lucky; never been hit. I tried Stiebler's and H.sie's both, but to me they give to nice of weather for the North Atlantic.

bacchusxxx22
04-05-20, 02:03 AM
Been lucky; never been hit. I tried Stiebler's and H.sie's both, but to me they give to nice of weather for the North Atlantic.

I'm not sure I understand that kind of the point of view


All other trys with supermods or different simact result in:

Barely one weather change in 3 or 4 or 5 days.

Always the wettderbericht shows exact the same for days and then one change if you are lucky.

And not to forget the always start with wind 4 richtung 0

Thats playing with a a bug.

No, I now everyone got used to it since the 14_b with the stocksimact has this behavior..


Now, as I said few times

It's a different world with fixed time trigger for weather and if I hadn't succeed to fix.(thx to genious stiebler)

I wounld not play a game with bugging weather.


How realistic is it to not have the slightest weather nor windchange for days

I can't even imagine me to play hitting the weather button
All ways getting same massage..
To not forget to mention the horrible monotony at bridge view
That is all passe now in my version

You folks are strange

With this stuck weather you miss the best part of the game: the atmosphere

bacchusxxx22
04-05-20, 06:41 AM
On my way to an 47 patrol area I had 32 weather changes( not counted the winddirection)


That means 32 times different bridge view. In about 30 hours!?

Now I arrived it's rain calm and fog. Wind direction changes slightly all the time.

Periscope deapth. It's too dangerous for surface.

Soon the weather will change I guess.

.......

How long you play to get this?
(The bridge change)

John Pancoast
04-05-20, 07:30 AM
I'm not sure I understand that kind of the point of view


All other trys with supermods or different simact result in:

Barely one weather change in 3 or 4 or 5 days.

Always the wettderbericht shows exact the same for days and then one change if you are lucky.

And not to forget the always start with wind 4 richtung 0

Thats playing with a a bug.

No, I now everyone got used to it since the 14_b with the stocksimact has this behavior..


Now, as I said few times

It's a different world with fixed time trigger for weather and if I hadn't succeed to fix.(thx to genious stiebler)

I wounld not play a game with bugging weather.


How realistic is it to not have the slightest weather nor windchange for days

I can't even imagine me to play hitting the weather button
All ways getting same massage..
To not forget to mention the horrible monotony at bridge view
That is all passe now in my version

You folks are strange

With this stuck weather you miss the best part of the game: the atmosphere


Weather works fine. Sometimes it changes a lot, sometimes it doesn't. Like real life. Like I said, it gives me much more weather like I expect the North Atlantic to be; windy, stormy, etc. any time of the year (which is what skippers actually experienced, including "storms for days", even weeks) vs. the smooth as glass at times affect the other .act files do at times.


I also don't like how they force a change after a few days max. of bad weather. To me, for the North Atlantic, THAT is unrealistic.



Weather isn't stuck at all. I know different people get different results with the stock .act file; maybe ours are.

bacchusxxx22
04-05-20, 07:51 AM
I'm pretty sure, when you copy the stiebler simactfile 2016 in stock 1_4b.

The weather is fixed on every system that can run sh3

John Pancoast
04-05-20, 07:55 AM
I'm pretty sure, when you copy the stiebler simactfile 2016 in stock 1_4b.

The weather is fixed on every system that can run sh3


It changes the weather. Like I said though, I don't care for the changes it does; to nice of weather, cutting storms short, etc.


My comment about the .act file acting differently for different people was referring to the stock file.

bacchusxxx22
04-05-20, 08:34 AM
Do you have winddirection change, or just once the weather changes the winddegree changes once with it.

As I said before, the simact 2016 makes the winddegree work.
That's a main reason to use it


The weather changes are smoothly, looking

No cut it goes: 7 6- 4 6 8 9 10 12 and so on...
Not 0 15 015 or similar

Only on time warp maybe that

John Pancoast
04-05-20, 08:48 AM
Do you have winddirection change, or just once the weather changes the winddegree changes once with it.

As I said before, the simact 2016 makes the winddegree work.


The weather changes are smoothly, looking

No cut it goes: 7 6- 4 6 8 9 10 12 and so on...
Not 0 15 015 or similar

Only on time warp


The wind direction changes, never paid attention to how often. Doesn't really matter to me, as long as it changes now and then.

bacchusxxx22
04-05-20, 08:57 AM
Yes, I doesn't really matter, but it has to work.

Now I do it often just to check.


At patrol start. I check it.
Hit weatherbutton
Wait 3 or 4 min.


Then hit weather button again

And I get same wind but different direction.

Thats a working weather.

If after 5 min no change it's bug.

it works only with stock.

John Pancoast
04-05-20, 09:38 AM
Yes, I doesn't really matter, but it has to work.

Now I do it often just to check.


At patrol start. I check it.
Hit weatherbutton
Wait 3 or 4 min.


Then hit weather button again

And I get same wind but different direction.

Thats a working weather.

If after 5 min no change it's bug.

it works only with stock.


I don't have a problem if the wind direction doesn't change every few minutes.


Also don't consider it not doing so a bug.



Different strokes, etc.

bacchusxxx22
04-05-20, 10:33 AM
I don't have a problem if the wind direction doesn't change every few minutes.


Also don't consider it not doing so a bug.



Different strokes, etc.

It doesn't change always every two minutes.

Sometimes for hours not.

But in general it works. That's the point

It adds life to the sea and it's must-have like fixed oxygen

When it not does it at start. It will never

John Pancoast
04-05-20, 11:47 AM
Is this available anywhere ? Like to try it out.

bacchusxxx22
04-05-20, 12:17 PM
I told you already.

Copy the simact 2016 in stock 14b.
And try at mission start in harbor
Hit weatherbutton
Wait 5 min hit the weatherbutton again.
You will see slightly winddegree change.


Write me when you have it checked, ace of the deep ;)

bacchusxxx22
04-05-20, 12:29 PM
And put in the gwx 16 km( sunfix)
+ V16b1( I have the u tanker fix and all regarding the weather off)and fog.

The options you can experiment.

It's all 100 percent stable

All works perfect

John Pancoast
04-05-20, 12:33 PM
I told you already.

Copy the simact 2016 in stock 14b.
And try at mission start in harbor
Hit weatherbutton
Wait 5 min hit the weatherbutton again.
You will see slightly winddegree change.


Write me when you have it checked, ace of the deep ;)

Ah, for some reason I thought it was a version you had modified. Yes, I've run this for many patrols/campaigns in GWX and NYGM with H.sie's and Stiebler's patches hence my earlier comments about it.

bacchusxxx22
04-05-20, 12:45 PM
The degree change works not with gwx30 gold.

Only in stock the simact 2016 gives proper winddegree change.
In all other I tried it does not

John Pancoast
04-05-20, 12:47 PM
The degree change works not with gwx30 gold.

Only in stock the simact 2016 gives proper winddegree change.
In all other I tried it does not




Thanks, but as I mentioned earlier, I don't care for the actual weather this file produces. To calm; cuts storms artificially short, etc.


Sorry for the confusion.

bacchusxxx22
04-05-20, 01:24 PM
To calm; cuts storms artificially short, etc.


I don't have experienced that in stock

I use only this one file, the rest is stock.

The hsie mod has more files to copy over