A Fix for Windows 10 Blocking SH4 Executable

[Hazelwood]

Ahoy Colleagues,

It's possible I'm the only person on the planet to have run into this problem but if any of you also have done so and are still struggling, the following may prove helpful...

Inexplicably, a couple of days ago Windows started blocking SH4.exe from execution. It would show a seriously red headlined pop-up with a warning and the disappointing advice that it would not launch SH4. This may have to do with a recent Windows security update. My anti-virus and anti-spyware confirmed no intrusions. I spent a highly frustrating day trying various Internet solutions including disabling the "hidden" UAC - all to no avail. What finally worked was to create an "elevated" shortcut with full privileges for SH4.exe, using the Task Scheduler as nicely described at the link below. There are quite a few steps but it's really easy. The author is to be commended for providing complete instructions:

https://winaero.com/blog/create-elevated-shortcut-to-skip-uac-prompt-in-windows-10/

This may be one of the few (or only) solutions that doesn't involve shutting down or otherwise compromising Windows security. It's specific to the application which is just what you want. The new shortcut has some mysterious useless icon but really, who cares? I'll figure out how to replace it one day.

Best wishes,
JHzlwd

[Webster]

thank you for this, im sure it will help many

progress seems to be more trouble then its worth sometimes

[ironkross]

My windows 10 just upgraded. I had played SH4 just today. Now, using Steam, the game won't start. I don't get a warning window, or anything else. It just does not start. Other games on Steam still work. It's just SH4. :hmmm:

[wade88]

run it directly from the directory and see what happens.

[ironkross]

run it directly from the directory and see what happens.
I tried that with same result.
SH4 1.5 with the FotRSU mod was running on steam Windows10pro 64bit OS, in the steam directory. Everything ran great, everytime. Until the last Windows update. After that SH4 1.5 would not start. However SH4 1.4 which was also on steam listed as a separate game did run.
I uninstalled 1.5 and reinstalled. Somewhere in that process I reinstalled 1.4 version. Now neither game runs. On the Steam box it says the game is running. If I click on cancel nothing happens, the cancel button remains. Task mgr shows the game exe running. I have tried since to start the exe from the directory. I have tried to run it with Windows 7 compatibility mode. No change, and it ran fine previously not in compatibility mode.
:confused:
Thanks, for the response, and any further help. :Kaleun_Salute:

[ironkross]

I tried that with same result.
SH4 1.5 with the FotRSU mod was running on steam Windows10pro 64bit OS, in the steam directory. Everything ran great, everytime. Until the last Windows update. After that SH4 1.5 would not start. However SH4 1.4 which was also on steam listed as a separate game did run.
I uninstalled 1.5 and reinstalled. Somewhere in that process I reinstalled 1.4 version. Now neither game runs. On the Steam box it says the game is running. If I click on cancel nothing happens, the cancel button remains. Task mgr shows the game exe running. I have tried since to start the exe from the directory. I have tried to run it with Windows 7 compatibility mode. No change, and it ran fine previously not in compatibility mode.
:confused:
Thanks, for the response, and any further help. :Kaleun_Salute:

OK, maybe it was a compatibility setting, I ran the windows troubleshooter and got the SH4 1.4 version going. DL Uboat missions now and (fingers X'd) maybe it will play. OMG this has been 2 days of stress.

[ETR3(SS)]

Why are you running 1.4 if you have 1.5?

[propbeanie]

It is probably actually the v1.3 of the SH4 game from Steam that they have ETR3(SS). Steam has a little "gotcha" in that the v1.5 of the game is actually a Uboat Missions Add-on, so a player has to purchase the v1.3 of the game, and the v1.5 add-on, installing both, in order to run the v1.5 of the game...it's like 2008 all over again - Ground Hog Day, etc... In either case, a Steam player like ironkross has to be careful not to install the game into the default "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam \SteamApps \common \Silent Hunter..." folder structure, and like the other versions of the game, install it into a folder of their own creation and naming, that is outside of the Windows' protection racket of a "Program Files" folder structure. In Steam, this entails creating a new "Steam Library" folder, as per Moving a Steam Installation and Games (https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7418-YUBN-8129) on the Steam Support site. Also, when re-installing the Steam game, a player has to make certain that the "DirectX v9.0c" and "Windows Media Codecs" are also installed, along with the Steam game, else you will not get a window for it to run in... The v1.3 of the game is basically useless to a player, and there are very few mods made for it, but is necessary to have so that the Uboats v1.5 will run, especially if a player wants to add mods to the game, since most of them are made for v1.5 only... :salute:

[ironkross]

It is probably actually the v1.3 of the SH4 game from Steam that they have ETR3(SS). Steam has a little "gotcha" in that the v1.5 of the game is actually a Uboat Missions Add-on, so a player has to purchase the v1.3 of the game, and the v1.5 add-on, installing both, in order to run the v1.5 of the game...it's like 2008 all over again - Ground Hog Day, etc... In either case, a Steam player like ironkross has to be careful not to install the game into the default "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam \SteamApps \common \Silent Hunter..." folder structure, and like the other versions of the game, install it into a folder of their own creation and naming, that is outside of the Windows' protection racket of a "Program Files" folder structure. In Steam, this entails creating a new "Steam Library" folder, as per Moving a Steam Installation and Games (https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7418-YUBN-8129) on the Steam Support site. Also, when re-installing the Steam game, a player has to make certain that the "DirectX v9.0c" and "Windows Media Codecs" are also installed, along with the Steam game, else you will not get a window for it to run in... The v1.3 of the game is basically useless to a player, and there are very few mods made for it, but is necessary to have so that the Uboats v1.5 will run, especially if a player wants to add mods to the game, since most of them are made for v1.5 only... :salute:

Thanks, yes this is correct. I was incorrectly referring to 1.4 when I should have said v1.3. :oops:
I had to buy the basic SH4 on Steam before I could run SH4 Uboat missions(aka v1.5). I actually had v1.5 on DVD but could not get it to run on my Windows10 pc so Steam was my only recourse. At least it was on sale. :03:

[Hazelwood]

run it directly from the directory and see what happens.

No dice. Only the "elevated" shortcut works.

Best wishes,
Hazelwood

[ironkross]

I am running SH4 right now from the Steam install, in the default Steam folder.
I have split my D drive and made a new E drive and put the new Steam library there. However, when I started reading from the link above, about moving the existing Steam folder into the new drive, that's where I get hung up. Step 3. says " Delete all of the files and folders except the SteamApps & Userdata folders and Steam.exe." This seems too extreme! There are a lot of files there. 98,498 Files, 9,123 Folders. I am very hesitant to delete everything except SteamApps and Userdata and the exe.
This is where I am, and as I said the game runs ok in the default folder.
So... how important is it to run in another drive/folder structure?

[propbeanie]

It's not important at all if you don't use mods. The alternative method is to install the game to the new E: drive Library folder, but you might have to un-install it first. No matter which way you go, it does take a while to accomplish... that is just the nature of Steam. Those files that you delete in the "manual" method of moving everything, are re-created after the move, so you do need a lot of hard drive space. Steam stays in the Program Files folder (for the most part), but the game and necessary Steam files for the licensing are in the new Library folder. :salute:

[ironkross]

It's not important at all if you don't use mods. The alternative method is to install the game to the new E: drive Library folder, but you might have to un-install it first. No matter which way you go, it does take a while to accomplish... that is just the nature of Steam. Those files that you delete in the "manual" method of moving everything, are re-created after the move, so you do need a lot of hard drive space. Steam stays in the Program Files folder (for the most part), but the game and necessary Steam files for the licensing are in the new Library folder. :salute:

Thanks for the info and clarification PB. :salute:
I may leave as is for awhile. I just spent 2 days just making SH4 work again. That was enough tinkering for this week! :haha:
I'll move after my current mission is over. :up:

[Sosondowah]

Starting today, I am encountering the same issue (see attachment). I wasn't even able to take a screenshot, I had to do a picture with my phone.

When I try to start the game normally, nothing happens and this message appears when I try to run the program as an administrator. I have the 1.5 version of the game, the "old" version, not Steam.

I've tried to take privileges, to drop security and so on, nothing helps. Did anyone found a solution for this? I mean a real solution, not a workaround.

https://ibb.co/XVsrdLP

https://ibb.co/XVsrdLP

It's funny, I am supposed to be the administrator of my PC, good or bad, but it seems there is a some big brother in a higher plane watching over my safety.

[propbeanie]

Windows 10 and the 'modern' computing world demand a bit more of a person seeking to run 'legacy' software these days...

Read through this, and change the Properties setting of the SH4.exe file:
SH4 won't start after recent Win10 update (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2738754#post2738754)

[Sosondowah]

Windows 10 and the 'modern' computing world demand a bit more of a person seeking to run 'legacy' software these days...

Read through this, and change the Properties setting of the SH4.exe file:
SH4 won't start after recent Win10 update (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2738754#post2738754)


Thank you, but it doesn't work, I just did that.

[3catcircus]

Thank you, but it doesn't work, I just did that.

I'll ask again. After you logged in as an admin? As in did you open up the accounts page and see that there account actually has admin rights. There have been instances where Win10 updates have removed those rights.

[Sosondowah]

Yes, it works from the Administrator account, but that account is not customized. Also, it works perfectly from a user account on my other desktop, with the same OS and updates. But it doesn't from this PC from the regular user account.

[propbeanie]

First things first: have you attempted to activate any mods, or is this a bone-stock install? Have you tried to clear the Save folder ("C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4")? Navigate to that folder and delete it. Everything below it will be re-created when you start the game again. However, you will lose all game progress - if you have an. Another technique would be to move the folder out of Documents for safe-keeping elsewhere, or copy and paste it somewhere else.

Have you set the video stream correctly? Your monitor has a "native" resolution, such as 1920x1080 or similar, which Windows will refer to as "(recommended)" after the numbers, such as "1920x1080 (recommended)" or "1366x768 (recommended)" or some-such. Be sure you have Windows set like that, unless you are doing HDMI, in which case, Windows will set it to whatever it wants... I do not use anything with the DisplayPort connector, so I am uncertain as to how Windows handles those. Be sure your "Scaling" is set to 100%. Look at those Properties settings in the link on the previous page again, and make certain that you have the "Disable fullscreen optimizations" checked, as well as the "Override high DPI scaling... Application" from the "Change high DPI behavior" button. On one of my computers, I have to tick the "Run this program in compatibility mode - Windows 7", on another I do not. On one of my computers, I have to tick the "Run this program as an administrator", on the other I do not. It all depends upon your hardware and OS settings. It took a LOT of experimentation on the newest beast I have, to find the correct combination.

What can sometimes help is to edit the "Main.cfg" file with a text editor, such as Windows Notepad or Notepad++ (https://notepad-plus-plus.org/) or similar, to match your video settings, but set it to windowed. If the game ran previously, that file is usually found in the "C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4 \data \cfg" folder. "UserName" being the name that you log into the computer with, and "Documents" might be "My Documents". The first line under the heading "[Video]" in the file to look for is similar to "Resolution=1768,992,30,22" or maybe "Resolution=1024,768,30,22" or similar. Match your Windows video setting. The other line is "FullScreen=No", which you might change to "FullScreen=Yes". This should be unnecessary to do. A person with SH3 might need to do this.

I have 3 computers with Win10 on them. 1) A Core2 quad-core Running Win10 Insider, fast circle, with an nVidia 560Ti card, minimal changes (High DPI changes though). 2) A 5th gen Core i5 laptop running Win10 Home "Local" log-in, with onboard Intel graphics, minimal changes, (Run as administrator). 3) An i7 920 running Win10 Home retail, with dual nVidia 980 cards, and this one was a real bother to get SH4 running reliably on, and Win10 seems to constantly want to change all of my user settings for the "legacy" apps with each update, like my cell fones do... :roll: - everything is ticked on it, and is the basis of the illustration in that previous post. :salute:

[3catcircus]

Yes, it works from the Administrator account, but that account is not customized. Also, it works perfectly from a user account on my other desktop, with the same OS and updates. But it doesn't from this PC from the regular user account.

So... You haven't answered my question. The account you *normally* use on that machine - the one you indicate is "customized" - does *that* account have admin rights? Not is it an admin account - you need to actually open up the accounts info and confirm that account didn't somehow get it's admin rights revoked.

The account you log in to play SH4 *must* have admin rights.

[Sosondowah]

Taking this into account, I would say I have (theoretically) administrative rights, belonging to the Administrators group:


https://ibb.co/VNYmQWx

[Sosondowah]

First things first: have you attempted to activate any mods, or is this a bone-stock install? Have you tried to clear the Save folder ("C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4")? Navigate to that folder and delete it. Everything below it will be re-created when you start the game again. However, you will lose all game progress - if you have an. Another technique would be to move the folder out of Documents for safe-keeping elsewhere, or copy and paste it somewhere else.

Have you set the video stream correctly? Your monitor has a "native" resolution, such as 1920x1080 or similar, which Windows will refer to as "(recommended)" after the numbers, such as "1920x1080 (recommended)" or "1366x768 (recommended)" or some-such. Be sure you have Windows set like that, unless you are doing HDMI, in which case, Windows will set it to whatever it wants... I do not use anything with the DisplayPort connector, so I am uncertain as to how Windows handles those. Be sure your "Scaling" is set to 100%. Look at those Properties settings in the link on the previous page again, and make certain that you have the "Disable fullscreen optimizations" checked, as well as the "Override high DPI scaling... Application" from the "Change high DPI behavior" button. On one of my computers, I have to tick the "Run this program in compatibility mode - Windows 7", on another I do not. On one of my computers, I have to tick the "Run this program as an administrator", on the other I do not. It all depends upon your hardware and OS settings. It took a LOT of experimentation on the newest beast I have, to find the correct combination.

What can sometimes help is to edit the "Main.cfg" file with a text editor, such as Windows Notepad or Notepad++ (https://notepad-plus-plus.org/) or similar, to match your video settings, but set it to windowed. If the game ran previously, that file is usually found in the "C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4 \data \cfg" folder. "UserName" being the name that you log into the computer with, and "Documents" might be "My Documents". The first line under the heading "[Video]" in the file to look for is similar to "Resolution=1768,992,30,22" or maybe "Resolution=1024,768,30,22" or similar. Match your Windows video setting. The other line is "FullScreen=No", which you might change to "FullScreen=Yes". This should be unnecessary to do. A person with SH3 might need to do this.

I have 3 computers with Win10 on them. 1) A Core2 quad-core Running Win10 Insider, fast circle, with an nVidia 560Ti card, minimal changes (High DPI changes though). 2) A 5th gen Core i5 laptop running Win10 Home "Local" log-in, with onboard Intel graphics, minimal changes, (Run as administrator). 3) An i7 920 running Win10 Home retail, with dual nVidia 980 cards, and this one was a real bother to get SH4 running reliably on, and Win10 seems to constantly want to change all of my user settings for the "legacy" apps with each update, like my cell fones do... :roll: - everything is ticked on it, and is the basis of the illustration in that previous post. :salute:

Thank you for the effort, but it's a Windows problem.

[1Patriotofmany]

Just another reason I hate win10. Hell charge me $400 a year to update XP and 7 against hacks and lockups microsoft and I'd gladly pay it. XP was great, 7 was awesome IMO. Guess I'm just a dated guy but I hate 10.

[3catcircus]

Taking this into account, I would say I have (theoretically) administrative rights, belonging to the Administrators group:


https://ibb.co/VNYmQWx

I'm wondering if your account became corrupted somehow...

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-security/administrator-account-does-not-have-administrator/f704341b-09d2-431e-9c54-a2c7ab5370d3

https://www.ryadel.com/en/windows-users-administrators-group-without-admin-rights-uac-fix/

[Moonlight]

Use the link below, read it, change it, use it, it's that bleeding simple, :haha:
There are 5 ways to change an account in this link, use the one you think is the easiest.
How to change a Windows 10 user account type and why you might want to
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-change-user-account-type-windows-10#page1

Something doesn't look right with that blank line.
I'm wondering if your account became corrupted somehow...

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-security/administrator-account-does-not-have-administrator/f704341b-09d2-431e-9c54-a2c7ab5370d3

https://www.ryadel.com/en/windows-users-administrators-group-without-admin-rights-uac-fix/

[3catcircus]

Use the link below, read it, change it, use it, it's that bleeding simple, :haha:
There are 5 ways to change an account in this link, use the one you think is the easiest.
How to change a Windows 10 user account type and why you might want to
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-change-user-account-type-windows-10#page1

Something doesn't look right with that blank line.

I think the fact that local accounts being part of the Administrators group but not actually having full rights like the built-in admin account is something a lot of people don't actually know.

[Sosondowah]

It seems that this option is greyed out:

https://ibb.co/TtcWCxm

[3catcircus]

It seems that this option is greyed out:

https://ibb.co/TtcWCxm

It appears your account doesn't have admin rights, If I'm reading that correctly, which means you'll have to log in via the built-in admin account and give your account admin rights.

[Sosondowah]

It doesn't work. Even reinstalling Windows didn't worked. Forget it, thanks, anyway!

[mazzi]

It doesn't work. Even reinstalling Windows didn't worked. Forget it, thanks, anyway!
Now on your way "G:\Games\Silent Hunter 4\sh4.exe" does not work. And on other disks?
Copy the game, for example "D:\Games\SH4\sh4.exe" or "E:\Games\SH4\sh4.exe" or "F:\Games\SH4\sh4.exe" does not work?

[3catcircus]

It doesn't work. Even reinstalling Windows didn't worked. Forget it, thanks, anyway!

Let me ask one last outlier - what version of Win10 do you have? If it is Win N version, you might have to install the media pack that includes a bunch of codecs.

[Sosondowah]

Let me ask one last outlier - what version of Win10 do you have? If it is Win N version, you might have to install the media pack that includes a bunch of codecs.

It is Windows Pro 64.

[Sosondowah]

Now on your way "G:\Games\Silent Hunter 4\sh4.exe" does not work. And on other disks?
Copy the game, for example "D:\Games\SH4\sh4.exe" or "E:\Games\SH4\sh4.exe" or "F:\Games\SH4\sh4.exe" does not work?

No, nothing works, I've reinstalled Windows, I've changed the location of the game, I've reinstalled the game and so on.

I will also add that when I've reinstalled the game and wanted to update to 1.4 version, when I double click to silent_hunter_4_1.4.exe nothing happens and when I try to open that file as an administrator I receive the same crappy message.

The only way the game currently works is via built in administrator account.

[3catcircus]

No, nothing works, I've reinstalled Windows, I've changed the location of the game, I've reinstalled the game and so on.

I will also add that when I've reinstalled the game and wanted to update to 1.4 version, when I double click to silent_hunter_4_1.4.exe nothing happens and when I try to open that file as an administrator I receive the same crappy message.

The only way the game currently works is via built in administrator account.

Then it means *your* account doesn't actually have admin rights. With the built in admin account, go and give your account admin rights.

[Sosondowah]

Then it means *your* account doesn't actually have admin rights. With the built in admin account, go and give your account admin rights.

I cannot do that, as you can see in this screenshot, this is made from the built in administrator account when I try to change the so called user account where the problem is:

https://ibb.co/TtcWCxm

And the strangest thing is that I have this problem with not being able to run SH4 only on one desktop out of the three I have.

[Moonlight]

This is a tutorial link that changes a guest account into an administrator account.
https://www.tenforums.com/user-accounts-family-safety/165845-how-merge-user-account-administrator-account.html

If you can't do it that way then you'll have to make yourself a member at https://www.tenforums.com/ and they will help you to change an account type.

Do what these people tell you to do and they'll sort it out for you, Do Not take 15 posts to tell them about your account problem when 1 will suffice. :up:

[3catcircus]

I cannot do that, as you can see in this screenshot, this is made from the built in administrator account when I try to change the so called user account where the problem is:

https://ibb.co/TtcWCxm

And the strangest thing is that I have this problem with not being able to run SH4 only on one desktop out of the three I have.
I'm going to ask a really dumb question - your account is an actual account, right? Not a temporary guest account?

[Sosondowah]

I'm going to ask a really dumb question - your account is an actual account, right? Not a temporary guest account?


Yes.

[Sosondowah]

This is a tutorial link that changes a guest account into an administrator account.
https://www.tenforums.com/user-accounts-family-safety/165845-how-merge-user-account-administrator-account.html

If you can't do it that way then you'll have to make yourself a member at https://www.tenforums.com/ and they will help you to change an account type.

Do what these people tell you to do and they'll sort it out for you, Do Not take 15 posts to tell them about your account problem when 1 will suffice. :up:


I will mention that I have a lousy workaround which is not safe, so I will not use it: disabling UAC (the registry key to change is EnableLUA, whose DWORD value needs to be set to 0 instead of default 1:

https://community.microfocus.com/t5/ALM-QC-User-Discussions/lt-ALM-Support-Tip-gt-How-to-disable-UAC-from-windows-registry/td-p/951108


, restart and then set the proprieties of the sh4.exe file in Compatibility/Change high DPI Settings and check "Override high DPI scaling".

It works, in the sense that your game will start, but it puts you at high risk, so it's not a solution.


So, going back to trying to find a fix... looking at the screenshot I wonder: Is my Microsoft account Administrator or not?

https://ibb.co/jJPhf64

This is what I see listed as other users when I log into that so called built in administrator account.

While I appreciate your effort and involvement, none of the suggestions worked, so I invite anyone that believes can fix my issue to use TeamViewer/AnyDo on my PC with full access and Skype or any other similar software for communication purposes. Details can be given in a private message.

[stoppro]

i guess i was lucky. changed compatablity setting to vista 2 started right up

[propbeanie]

From Page 1:
Windows 10 and the 'modern' computing world demand a bit more of a person seeking to run 'legacy' software these days...

Read through this, and change the Properties setting of the SH4.exe file:
SH4 won't start after recent Win10 update (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2738754#post2738754)
What is "unsafe" about changing the High DPI behavior of an app? or setting its compatibility to something other than Win10? The game is put in a "sandbox" inside of Windows, even on the Home edition (one address space), but especially on a Pro version (multiple address spaces available). Windows 10 wants to "help" you with the "scaling" of all apps, but SH4 has no clue how to allow Windows to do that. SH4 can't even share the audio stream, much less the video stream. It is an old, "legacy", DirectX v9.0c game... kind of like some of the "legacy" members around - o-l-d... present company included... :roll: :salute:

[Sosondowah]

propbeanie (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=354436), just in case your above message was meant to be directed to me: it's not safe for your computer to have UAC disabled, which is USER ACCOUNT CONTROL.

In my particular situation, that is the first and mandatory required step to do in order not to receive that crappy red message. Any other attempt failed and I have tried some.

And only the second step is to change the proprieties of the. exe file.

[propbeanie]

You shouldn't have to disable UAC to run SH4.exe - You have your computer set to log-in on restricted privileges. As 3catcircus mentioned, you can log-in on the admin account and change the settings for your "normal" account to run SH4.exe as an administrator by right-clicking on the SH4,exe file, by use of the Compatibility tab on the Properties page, and using the "Change settings for all users" and then change the settings as alluded to in previous posts. "OK" your way back out, log-out of the Administrator account, and log back into your "normal" account, and see if it won't allow you to run the program now. You should be set to "Run this program as an administrator" on the Properties page...

[Sosondowah]

Your suggested solution doesn't work.

OK, thank you all for the effort!

[Red Devil]

I have just posted in general comments about this - I am getting the red screen too. Will reinstallation fix this problem. Its currently residing on my E Drive which I use mainly for games.

The 'elevated' system looks complicated but will try it if I have to

[Red Devil]

On advice from a win 10 forum I did the following:

Search box, regedit and follow this path;

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Policies\System

Open system and look opposite for enableLUA. Click on this and you will see on the pop up a rectangle with a 1 it it. change this to 0 And click OK. Close this down, close down the pc and then boot it up again. The problem was fixed on mine and I went straight into the game.

The problem was caused by a recent windows feature upgrade which has screwed many pc SH4 gamers up and probably others. I have asked an insider to speak to MS and kick them up the (cough). Telling them off for fixing something which was not broke.

[fitzcarraldo]

On advice from a win 10 forum I did the following:

Search box, regedit and follow this path;

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Policies\System

Open system and look opposite for enableLUA. Click on this and you will see on the pop up a rectangle with a 1 it it. change this to 0 And click OK. Close this down, close down the pc and then boot it up again. The problem was fixed on mine and I went straight into the game.

The problem was caused by a recent windows feature upgrade which has screwed many pc SH4 gamers up and probably others. I have asked an insider to speak to MS and kick them up the (cough). Telling them off for fixing something which was not broke.

I used this for FS9, but I had UAC deactivated. FS9.exe continues to don´t work. My SH4 and SH5 work fine with the latest update of W10, with and without UAC (the enableLUA entry in the registry). But MSFS2004 (FS9) is out, and I don´t know how to make work it. Died.

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo :Kaleun_Salute:

[Moonlight]

Why You Shouldn’t Disable User Account Control (UAC) in Windows
https://www.howtogeek.com/124754/htg-explains-why-you-shouldnt-disable-uac/

[Red Devil]

thank you for that link. I do understand but I would rather wait until MS fix it before I go down that road. My Kaspersky Total Security seems to be doing its job.

[3catcircus]

I used this for FS9, but I had UAC deactivated. FS9.exe continues to don´t work. My SH4 and SH5 work fine with the latest update of W10, with and without UAC (the enableLUA entry in the registry). But MSFS2004 (FS9) is out, and I don´t know how to make work it. Died.

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo :Kaleun_Salute:

Dunno if it works for Win10, but in Win7, I had to arm the secdrv driver which an update disabled. I then have to start FS9, close it from task manager ( running it the first time arms the rundll) and then run it again to get it to run.

[propbeanie]

... :hmmm: - Someone in the SH3 threads had similar happening with the game running in the background, but not displaying. I cannot find the postings about what they did... Memory is not my strong suite anymore, but it might have been the "Properties" page for the game executable, just like with Silent Hunter 4 - but your mentioning of that driver sounds familiar also... Windows 10 especially really tries to "Smooth" things, and alter the DPI stuff itself, and attempts to "help" the user. The older DirectX 9 games do not have the "circuitry" to understand that, just like they don't know what "virtualization" is when it comes to addressing, which is why they all get confused when you shell-out to Windows from one of the old games...

[l02turner]

On advice from a win 10 forum I did the following:

Search box, regedit and follow this path;

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Policies\System

Open system and look opposite for enableLUA. Click on this and you will see on the pop up a rectangle with a 1 it it. change this to 0 And click OK. Close this down, close down the pc and then boot it up again. The problem was fixed on mine and I went straight into the game.

The problem was caused by a recent windows feature upgrade which has screwed many pc SH4 gamers up and probably others. I have asked an insider to speak to MS and kick them up the (cough). Telling them off for fixing something which was not broke.

I followed your suggestions and all went well until I clicked "enableLUA" and no popup appeared. I went to Edit\Modify and a pop up opened with a 1 in the white box.

Is that the value I change to 0?

I hesitate to edit the registry as I was always told serious damage can occur so I tread slowly & cautiously. Thanks for the detailed instructions!

Down scope....

[Red Devil]

yes, change the 1 for a 0

[l02turner]

I made the registry change but when I tried to run SH4 I got a pop-up error saying, "code execution cannot proceed because um.dll was not found. Reinstalling the program may fix the problem."
I searched my SH4 folder for um.dll and the only one found was in the backup Registry I had created.

Should I just unchange the Registry change made? Doesn't seem like things should be so difficult, right?

Thanks for the help -
Larry

[Red Devil]

No idea, as I never had that problem. Yours could have been caused by a mod, but thats only a guess.

[IronsMan]

On advice from a win 10 forum I did the following:

Search box, regedit and follow this path;

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Policies\System

Open system and look opposite for enableLUA. Click on this and you will see on the pop up a rectangle with a 1 it it. change this to 0 And click OK. Close this down, close down the pc and then boot it up again. The problem was fixed on mine and I went straight into the game.

The problem was caused by a recent windows feature upgrade which has screwed many pc SH4 gamers up and probably others. I have asked an insider to speak to MS and kick them up the (cough). Telling them off for fixing something which was not broke.

Thank you for this. I was about to give up after having the same issue.

[Red Devil]

The win 10 forum has been going online since Win10 came out. I have been a member there since 2013. They have helped me out with loads of problems, puzzles and glitches. Its called tenforums.com

Now, they have also started up Win 11 forum, run by the same people. Win 11 is now available as a free upgrade, but after reading many posts on various aspects of Win 11, I have decided to steer clear, for now.

elevenforum.com

They also go on about Win 11 ISO - I dont understand a word or the instructions on how to install it. Those that have also report problems with win 11 boot software and something called TPM.

edit: another point: check carefully the compatibility of Win 11 with your rig. Details and checklist online

[Aktungbby]

IronsMan!:Kaleun_Salute:

[l02turner]

While I have seen the issue you describe I am seeing a different problem. When I launch SH4, I usually launch JGSME, then I click SH4. I see the brief movie about the developer of SH4 followed by a longer movie with a poem read to us. I usually hit ESC to stop both of those and the main SH4 launches with the red progress bar below it. But the progress stops at approx 80% and goes no further. At that point I am unable to recover without doing a hard reset where I hold the Power button down for 7+ seconds.

Is anyone else getting that error? Is there a fix? I'm about to remove everything relating to S4 and reinstall starting with my SH4 CD.

Suggestions?
TIA -

[Red Devil]

I open the game via a desktop icon (sh4 launcher NOT game icon), and I dont touch JGSME unless I want to look at a mod etc. When I last loaded sh4 from disk, I had a problem via the icon. I went into properties (right click on icon) and then compatibility where i run it with Windows XP Service pack 2. Change high DPI setting and in here, I have both boxes ticked. Image of both boxes attached. No prbs here. Mine loads to 80, pauses a couple of seconds then races to the end of the red line. I have it on 1920 x 1080 at 60 Mhz. Sorry about size of image, maybe you can blow it up a bit. I cant use the other button as I dont have relevant places to store images. DPI change to when I open windows

[l02turner]

I long ago gave up on the SH Icon. I use the SH4.exe in the base folder. After I reinstalled from the CD things have worked. I didn't try to launch the Vers 4 upgrade and am content using SH4 with TMO but I'm not sure TMO is actually running. Is there a visual indication to know when a mod like TMO is running or not?

[Mad Mardigan]

I long ago gave up on the SH Icon. I use the SH4.exe in the base folder. After I reinstalled from the CD things have worked. I didn't try to launch the Vers 4 upgrade and am content using SH4 with TMO but I'm not sure TMO is actually running. Is there a visual indication to know when a mod like TMO is running or not?

If I am not mistaken, TMO should have a loading screen image that will say it's TMO.

If I have this right, the loading image should be located as follows:

C:\Games\Silent-Hunter\SH4-Steam\steamapps\common\SH4-megamods\FotRS-U-EN remix\Data\Menu\Loading (using as an example here... replacing the 1st part of all this with /TMO (or what name for the folder you are using here) basically folder structure according to how you have SH4 installed & working from there.)

The loading image will be in this part of the main folder for SH4 that you're using the TMO mod in... \Data\Menu\Loading

In the Loading folder the file you're likely to be looking for should be tagged as:

intro_logo_bkg (I do believe... :yep:)

Hopefully this info is correct since I do NOT have TMO installed & set up... though I think I still do have the mod set up unzipped in My 2ndary hard drive... & shall take a look & see (though there were a couple of integrations of TMO to be frank about it, but.. the basic file location... should be the same as here, I do believe.)

Upon investigation the TMO I have is v2.5 & the location of the main loading image, is indeed located in Data\Menu\Loading & is tagged as ''intro_logo_bkg''

Hopefully this helps... :yep:

M. M.

:Kaleun_Salute:
If on booting up your TMO modded SH4... you should then see that image, if you're NOT.. then soething is not set up right.

[l02turner]

Hey MM -
Thanks for that detailed explanation, but if it requires that much effort to launch TMO I'll probably pass, but I need to study your comments more and decide what to do.

Thx again -
Larry

[Mad Mardigan]

Hey MM -
Thanks for that detailed explanation, but if it requires that much effort to launch TMO I'll probably pass, but I need to study your comments more and decide what to do.

Thx again -
Larry

It's not that difficult... just open up the folder you have SH4 in (that is modded with TMO)... go to the 'Data' folder, open that, find the 'Menu' folder, open it then find & open the final folder 'Loading'.

Once that last folder is opened up, is a simple task to locate the file 'intro_logo_bkg' & veiw it... either inside the folder in the preview pane... or using any picture viewer app you either have with your operating system or 1 you downloaded & installed... it's NOT that difficult to do.

It just looked so, due to all the explaining I did... is all. :yep:

I over explained it, in the effort to try & be as clear as where the screen you should be seeing, when you start your TMO modded copy of SH4... is located. So as to know for definite that the mods are working as they should. :shucks:

Sorry about that... :oops: I tend to get motor mouthed (well, in this case fingered) in detailing how to find/fix/correct things... I do try to curb it but.. well, it has a tendency to slip out... :D

M. M.

:Kaleun_Salute:

[Sosondowah]

Just in case anyone is still giving a damn on this issue ...

This is how this particular registry key should look like:

https://ibb.co/SXMgG5d

And this is how the SH4.exe file proprieties should be:

https://ibb.co/mXFkKpJ

[BrassMonkey]

Thank you🥇😉

[Galeocerdo]

Experienced the red Windows 10 UAC screen and was able to bypass it by changing screen scale from 125% to just plain 100%. Basically, turning Windows scaling off. Hope this helps. G

[Aktungbby]

Galeocerdo!:Kaleun_Salute:...back on the surface after 13-years' 'silent running'!??:up: