...And Again...

[Sailor Steve]

It's hard to believe it's been five years since the last time I tried this, but with '100 Years' finally out of the way it's time once again to try Silent Hunter III.

I have several games I'm trying as well - Wings Over Flanders' Fields, Train Simulator, Microsoft Flight Simulator Ten (or FSX, as it's commonly called), and Lockheed-Martin's flight sim Prepar3d. People call that one by a lot of different names, but the manual says it's pronounced "Prepared".

So, I'll be tracking my progress with re-installing SH3 the way I like it. I'll be referring to my old thread as a guide to how I did it before. This time maybe I'll finish one career before I get distracted by something else. I'll be doing all this on a new desktop computer I bought a couple of years ago and have upgraded a couple of times since then.

[FUBAR295]

Bug bites are a terrible thing ... :yeah:

Good luck.

Good hunting,
FUBAR295

[Sailor Steve]

:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:

That's a good one. It took me a minute to figure it out though. But you're right. I've been bitten far to many times.

[Randomizer]

@Sailor Steve, I quite enjoyed your postings both here and over on the WOFF forum so look forward to reading what you bring here going forward.

-C

[gord96]

i too am just getting back into SH3, after what must be close to 10 years!

at the moment DCS (flying the Harrier) has been my main 'milsim' obsession, but ready to get back into the water!

Where the heck do I get the game now? I remember in the past I got it from a site I can't remember. Heard bad things about the Steam version.

Thanks all!

[melis]

steam version is very well. I have, and all works fine ;)

[UKönig]

i too am just getting back into SH3, after what must be close to 10 years!

at the moment DCS (flying the Harrier) has been my main 'milsim' obsession, but ready to get back into the water!

Where the heck do I get the game now? I remember in the past I got it from a site I can't remember. Heard bad things about the Steam version.

Thanks all!

I got my copy on line from Ubisoft's website store. Paid 10$ for it. Single best purchase I never regretted.

[Ktl_KUrtz]

Bug bites are a terrible thing ... :yeah:

Good luck.

Good hunting,
FUBAR295
Once bitten it is impossible to shake it!
Guta jagt!
KUrtz

[gord96]

steam version is very well. I have, and all works fine ;)

thanks for the reply!

[gord96]

I got my copy on line from Ubisoft's website store. Paid 10$ for it. Single best purchase I never regretted.

thanks!

I am trying to remember the name of the store i got my last digital copy from. it eludes me. it was nice because it was free and clear of any DRM from Steam or Ubisoft. I imagine they are out of business now.

what's the best mod to use now? I used GWX back in the day.

edit: found it. gamersgate was the site and it's still there. downloading now. :)

[derstosstrupp]

Sailor Steve get Wolfpack (too) and come join us! There are a lot of solid players who love the immersion and an old hat like you would be an asset to the community!

[Sailor Steve]

My copy is from the twin-pack (SH2 + SH3) I bought from a store spin-rack in 2006. I almost never touch download games, though that is slowly changing.

Sailor Steve get Wolfpack (too) and come join us! There are a lot of solid players who love the immersion and an old hat like you would be an asset to the community!

Sorry, multi-player is something I never do. As soon as I heard about Wolfpack I knew it wasn't for me. I've looked at some videos and they only reaffirmed my conviction on that.

[derstosstrupp]

That’s fair. Depends on whom you play with. Plenty of idiots in the main Wolfpack Discord but there is a core of players who are very into the role playing aspect and take it seriously. Think historical SOPs, German commands, etc. I had my share of doubts in that regard too, believe me, but I was smitten. I was a crewman on an armored vehicle in the Marines and the small crew dynamic, working efficiently, training etc really brought back good memories.

[Sailor Steve]

That’s fair. Depends on whom you play with.
Not for me. I've tried all sorts of role-playing games and hated them all. That's the last thing I want to do on my computer, even with all good, friendly players.

[Chief_WH]

steam version is very well. I have, and all works fine ;)


Does it work ok with mods like GWX, and can it be run directly from Steam?


I have SHIII on Steam but should also have a CDrom somewhere in the cupboard under the stairs but really don't want to have to go in there lookin for it if I can avoid it.

[ThePrody]

Steam version works perfect with every mod, i never had any issues with it, i have some five different sh3 installs .
After you install a supermod and patch the executable you dont need Steam open to run the game .

[gord96]

Not for me. I've tried all sorts of role-playing games and hated them all. That's the last thing I want to do on my computer, even with all good, friendly players.

I'm the same way. With DCS, everyone is always telling me I should be playing multiplayer. Have no interest in that, would rather just do my own thing.

Looking forward to getting back into the Atlantic. :arrgh!:

[Chief_WH]

Steam version works perfect with every mod, i never had any issues with it, i have some five different sh3 installs .
After you install a supermod and patch the executable you dont need Steam open to run the game .


Thank you; time to roll back the years and give SHIII another go!

[Sailor Steve]

After a little work I got SHIII installed. From the disc. At first it wouldn't install, and I couldn't figure out why I was having so much trouble when It worked fine the last time. Then I realized that the "gift" computer I had it on was running Windows 8. Here I was telling everybody it worked fine for me on Windows 10, and the reality was that I've never tried to install it on Win10.

I ended up installing to the much-hated X86 folder on the C Drive. That worked fine, and then I moved the whole thing to the folder I store all my games on. So far, so good.

[Jeff-Groves]

I do hope you have the later version disk that has no StarForce.

[Sailor Steve]

Oh yeah. I have the second generation disc that came bundled with SH2.

[Sailor Steve]

GWX is installed and running.

[Sailor Steve]

SH3 Commander is in. :sunny:

[gord96]

nice!

I was always a GWX guy as well but figured for my return i'd try Living Silent Hunter. Already died in my first campaign hehe. First cruise after leaving the training flotilla and got caught my some Swordfish off the coast of Scotland. :(

[Sailor Steve]

Sorry for the huge delay, but I've had other games also grabbing my interest - Wings Over Flanders Fields and especially, believe it or not, Train Simulator. I'm at a point no where SH3 is begging me to research mods again, and I'm starting to warm up.

[Sailor Steve]

Well, I spent a lot of time working on other games with problems. Then I got back to SH3 and Commander kept telling me that I already have SH3 running and I can't load Commander. After stripping out SH3 once again everything seems to be running alright.

[Sailor Steve]

Loading Screens mod is installed. I like the band playing a different song every time I enter port.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Sorry for the huge delay, but I've had other games also grabbing my interest - Wings Over Flanders Fields and especially, believe it or not, Train Simulator. I'm at a point no where SH3 is begging me to research mods again, and I'm starting to warm up.

You too??? WOFF is AWESOME! I've flown it quite a bit, although not recently. Also in my absence, I've taken up model railroading. AT&SF between 1936-1946. I've got the big train sim, (Trainz 2019) but haven't messed with it much at all.

Am coming back up to speed here myself. (but try not to worry.... :D although my post count is 6,666 currently.:haha:)

Sorry, didn't mean to derail anything. I just thought the coincidence was remarkable.:ping:

[Sailor Steve]

I became upset with WOFF because one player/modder developed the ring of forts that surrounded Verdun. I couldn't get them to show up in the game, and I kept badgering the chief modders until I embarrassed myself. When I apologized they all said that they should be thanking me because if not for me they never would have been aware of the problem. Now it looks like the head designers are redoing that part of the game so the forts all show up automatically...just for me!

As for trains, I've become hooked on Dovetail's Train Simulator. I love driving the real engines along the real routes, especially some of the oddball little routes like the Corris Railway with its miniature engines. One of my favorites is the Welshman/Scotsman who goes by 'SmokeBox' and his 1870s engines that you can drive using the techniques they really used.

Oh, and you didn't derail anything at all. It's my thread.

[Sailor Steve]

The Wilhelmshaven, St. Nazaire etc mod is installed, as is the 4-Gig patch, and all seems to be working okay so far.

[Sailor Steve]

Well, the inevitable happened - I screwed up and lost the whole thing. I found I had a folder set aside labeled something like 'Complete finished 'Data' folder'. The last time I had it set up exactly the way I wanted I copied everything in the 'Data' folder, thinking that I would just have to install the mods and the .ini and the the other files would be ready to go. I loaded it up and got through the entire entro, except for the way it looks. It loaded for awhile, then crashed. It might be something as simple as one mod I forgot to install, or as complex as being completely twisted around. Or maybe it's because the last version was done on Windows 8 and I'm using Win10 now. It doesn't matter. The only thing now is to tear it out one more time and start yet again from scratch.

[Pisces]

Well, the inevitable happened - I screwed up and lost the whole thing. I found I had a folder set aside labeled something like 'Complete finished 'Data' folder'. The last time I had it set up exactly the way I wanted I copied everything in the 'Data' folder, thinking that I would just have to install the mods and the .ini and the the other files would be ready to go. ...Sounds like you are not using JSGME to enable the bunch of mods. If so, "there's your problem!". If you need to make personal tweaks to files, create your own mod-folder structure in MODS. It is so easy to undo mods and re-arrange in another order. Also, it can also change files in the SH3-root folder, not just /Data

The majority of mods relate to what is in the Data folder, but not all. Some files could be in the root folder (community executable patches). Or the savegames/user configuration settings in the Documents/SH3 folder may out of sync with your 'Complete finished Data folder'. As you must know, that can cause crashes as well.

[Ktl_KUrtz]

In one thread...
Jeff-Groves,
Sailor Steve,
Kpt Lehmann,
Fubar295.
:Kaleun_Cheers:
The Heads of State are back!
Nice!

KUrtz

[Ktl_KUrtz]

Not for me. I've tried all sorts of role-playing games and hated them all. That's the last thing I want to do on my computer, even with all good, friendly players.
Most of 'em do not take it seriously.
They are like kids with a toy pistol!
Never again! (unless I know the guy's well!)
:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:
KUrtz

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Not for me. I've tried all sorts of role-playing games and hated them all. That's the last thing I want to do on my computer, even with all good, friendly players.


If you like single player sci-fi stuff, the MASS EFFECT series, especially the first three... I'm in love with those games. Its like being the main character in a movie. Very heavy epic stuff. You can feel it as you play. Very well written and interlinked storyline (until the very last, and they've got a mod for that, fixing it.)


Just don't forget that you live here at Subsim, Sailor Steve. Its like mold. It grows on you and permeates. You can't scrub it off. :D

[Kpt. Lehmann]

In one thread...
Jeff-Groves,
Sailor Steve,
Kpt Lehmann,
Fubar295.
:Kaleun_Cheers:
The Heads of State are back!
Nice!

KUrtz


Not gonna lie. I laughed so hard that I had to blow my nose. Thank God I wasn't holding coffee.:haha:

[Jimbuna]

Not gonna lie. I laughed so hard that I had to blow my nose. Thank God I wasn't holding coffee.:haha:

You and me both :haha:

Always safer lurking in the shadows :smug:

[Kpt. Lehmann]

You and me both :haha:

Always safer lurking in the shadows :smug:


Oh my friend, I do believe that you are firmly one of those 'heads of state' if anyone must suffer that errm... accusation? You certainly have the commanding spammy post count to prove it. :D


In all seriousness, I have missed you, Jim. (Don't worry.... I still like girls.)


Cheers, KtL Kurtz/U301. :03:

[Jeff-Groves]

In one thread...
Jeff-Groves,
Sailor Steve,
Kpt Lehmann,
Fubar295.
:Kaleun_Cheers:
The Heads of State are back!
Nice!

KUrtz

I've never left!
:o

[FUBAR295]

In one thread...
Jeff-Groves,
Sailor Steve,
Kpt Lehmann,
Fubar295.
:Kaleun_Cheers:
The Heads of State are back!
Nice!

KUrtz

Thank you, humbly, :oops: but I really do not think my head should be included in this illustrious collection of heads above me not matter what the state. Cheshire or otherwise.

Like Jeff, I haven't gone anywhere. Just doing my best Marley's ghost intimation and rattle chains on occasion.

Good hunting,
FUBAR295

[Ktl_KUrtz]

It's very reassuring to get a reply, I've been too long on flight sim sites, to hear the sound of a human voice has chilled me right out!
I remember the names and the help you guy's gave to us all.
Let me take this time to thank you for all you do.
:Kaleun_Cheers:
KUrtz

[Jeff-Groves]

I can not speak for the others but I do what I do for myself first.
It's my obsession to mess with the files and see how far I can push things.

[Mad Mardigan]

@Sailor Steve

Just something to consider... I, for 1, use a computer running Win 10 & this is what I did to set up SH3 to it:

When I went to install SH3, I avoided C:/Program Files & C:/Program Files (X86) completely & set up a folder as follows:

C:/Games/SH3/(whatever mod I decided to use here, for me, I used /LSH3-2015, since I went with it...)

Hope this helps you out...

:Kaleun_Cheers:

:Kaleun_Salute:

[Kpt. Lehmann]

It's very reassuring to get a reply, I've been too long on flight sim sites, to hear the sound of a human voice has chilled me right out!

KUrtz


Well that's pretty messed up. I've been treated fairly in the Wings Over Flanders Fields forums. Except for two or three from my Red Baron 3D days, they don't know me from Adam over there. They are at least polite though. Other than there, I don't have any experience with other sim sites, but some have seemed so massive and full of children, that I didn't even try.

[Sailor Steve]

@Sailor Steve

Just something to consider... I, for 1, use a computer running Win 10 & this is what I did to set up SH3 to it:

When I went to install SH3, I avoided C:/Program Files & C:/Program Files (X86) completely & set up a folder as follows:

C:/Games/SH3/(whatever mod I decided to use here, for me, I used /LSH3-2015, since I went with it...)

Hope this helps you out...

:Kaleun_Cheers:

:Kaleun_Salute:
I have a separate SSD set up just for my games. I don't go anywhere near the C drive at all.

[Sailor Steve]

Sounds like you are not using JSGME to enable the bunch of mods. If so, "there's your problem!". If you need to make personal tweaks to files, create your own mod-folder structure in MODS. It is so easy to undo mods and re-arrange in another order. Also, it can also change files in the SH3-root folder, not just /Data

The majority of mods relate to what is in the Data folder, but not all. Some files could be in the root folder (community executable patches). Or the savegames/user configuration settings in the Documents/SH3 folder may out of sync with your 'Complete finished Data folder'. As you must know, that can cause crashes as well.

I use JSGME for everything.

[Sailor Steve]

Used Ichso's old advice to remove the big compass from GWX. It will be replaced by FLB Sales' original (sort of).

[Mad Mardigan]

I have a separate SSD set up just for my games. I don't go anywhere near the C drive at all.


No problem.

:Kaleun_Cheers:

:Kaleun_Salute:

[Col7777]

Hi Steve,

Not sure if you remember me from the old SH2 days, I see you use FSX, I too went on flight sim, got in to AI and doing repaints.
I'll be honest I'm a rubbish pilot, I should practice more lol, I un-installed my FSX and went back to FS2004 and installed some better scenery and I'm happy with it.

As for Windows 10, I was on Windows 7 and had no problems running sims then I upgraded to 10, I could have rolled back but I missed the roll back date so was stuck with 10.
Cut the story short I formatted my hard drive and re-installed Windows 7 again and all is back to normal.

I left SH for a long time but recently got back in to it, I have all the versions on disk and installed SH3, SH4 and SH5. I can't get SH5 to run it is asking for updates but the Ubisoft server is down so no big deal yet I still have 3 and 4 to play with.

I tried Train sim and I liked it but my problem was slowing down in time for stations and lights, I used to overshoot or slow down too soon then have to start again and often got it wrong.
I looked to buy one of those controllers but they are too expensive, I thought by now some company would have come up with more alternatives, I tried using my FS joystick but couldn't get it to marry up.

Anyway sorry for the long post but it is always good to chat to one of my old friends.

Col.

[Sailor Steve]

Hey Colin, yes I remember you! I also remember when one member started calling you "Colonel" because of your user name.


I'll be honest I'm a rubbish pilot, I should practice more lol, I un-installed my FSX and went back to FS2004 and installed some better scenery and I'm happy with it.
That's funny. I have a copy of FS2004 (or FS 9 as some call it), but I figured I had to have FSX (or FS 10 as it is properly known). I'm doing fine with FSX and Steam, so no complaints. I've also been trying out Prepar3d v3. Just experimenting so far.

As for Windows 10, I was on Windows 7 and had no problems running sims then I upgraded to 10, I could have rolled back but I missed the roll back date so was stuck with 10.
Cut the story short I formatted my hard drive and re-installed Windows 7 again and all is back to normal.
I've been quite happy with the recent updates to Windows 10. I used to think of going back but I have no such desire these days.

I tried Train sim and I liked it but my problem was slowing down in time for stations and lights, I used to overshoot or slow down too soon then have to start again and often got it wrong.
I looked to buy one of those controllers but they are too expensive, I thought by now some company would have come up with more alternatives, I tried using my FS joystick but couldn't get it to marry up.
I've never been a train guy, but I'm really getting a kick out of Train Sim. I especially like the Old West trains by Smokebox and the equivalent 1880s Caledonian locos. Lots of fun, for me anyway.

[Col7777]

Hi again Steve,

I forgot to mention I also have XPlane11 as well, that is good, especially the models, they are very detailed, the default scenery is OK too, I did get some local scenery that was fairly real.
Problem I had with it was, I got used to tweaking FS and XPlanes is a lot different, I couldn't get my head round doing any tweaks lol.

Anyway back to SH, I just did a long mission on SH4, sank a good few but I couldn't surface, I think the whole of the Japanese air force was up there.
I eventually crept away and made it back to Midway.

I remember the guy calling me Colonel too, I got that on the flight sim forum as well lol.

Col.