GREAT!!! now im getting CTD with hsie installed

[fastfed]

Had GWX and a few other mods installed, worked great, no issues, no crashes. which is rare for this game, I always delt with this issue and it always ruined this game for me.

anyway, forgot about the hsie install, so I did it, everything is great, but the second I get to a port or heavy traffic area, boom. CTD


any thoughts?

[fastfed]

yep, total CTD when anything heavy is needed to load. This happened to me a few days ago, then I forgot about the 4gb patch, installed that and no more issues.

now I install this HSIE thing, worked while out in sea with nothing around me, but once I hit about 50km to port, boom CTD

tried a new career, BOOM CTD

single player mission with no ships near me, no issues.

someone smart enough has to know what the deal is, i'll give it another day or two, really always go back to SH3 every few years after I get a new rig and it seems its always the same story with this game and mods.

[Anvar1061]

Have you carefully read the instructions for installing the Patch?

[John Pancoast]

Post your mod list. You've installed something wrong re Hsie's patch I would bet. Installed correctly, it works perfectly.

[fastfed]

my mods have nothing to do with it, I've been playing for days with no issues.

hate to say it, but its a crap shoot, sometimes you install the wrong thing from time to time and these things happen. If I search CTD and SH3 there are more results listed then searching for milfs lol

[John Pancoast]

my mods have nothing to do with it, I've been playing for days with no issues.

hate to say it, but its a crap shoot, sometimes you install the wrong thing from time to time and these things happen. If I search CTD and SH3 there are more results listed then searching for milfs lol




<shrug> Ok. I was just referencing that you stated that you had then decided to install Hsie's patch and the ctd problems started.


Seems like a mod conflict with Hsie and/or it wasn't installed correctly would be the first place to look.

[fastfed]

<shrug> Ok. I was just referencing that you stated that you had then decided to install Hsie's patch and the ctd problems started.


Seems like a mod conflict with Hsie and/or it wasn't installed correctly would be the first place to look.



yea basically, is there a list of mods somewhere written that is not compatible with the HSIE? if so that would be cool, something tells me it doesn't exist.

pretty sure I installed the patch correctly, I could try again, not going to put this much effort into it, I hate going through this.

Over the years when I first got SH3 and got into adding mods I went through this crap, many here will remember waiting 10+ minutes for SH3 GWX with mods to load, used to go for a walk or take a shower while its loading.

Only to find out it was a CTD because you didn't save the game in the perfect location :(

over the years my computers were built better and better and the load times would improve, now it only take a a minute or 2, but the crashing it seems is still here and will always be part of SH3.

I've spent hours upon hours, reloading the game, reinstalling mods and even formatting at one time only to find out we really don't have a clue of why these crashes happen.

[John Pancoast]

yea basically, is there a list of mods somewhere written that is not compatible with the HSIE? if so that would be cool, something tells me it doesn't exist.

pretty sure I installed the patch correctly, I could try again, not going to put this much effort into it, I hate going through this.

Over the years when I first got SH3 and got into adding mods I went through this crap, many here will remember waiting 10+ minutes for SH3 GWX with mods to load, used to go for a walk or take a shower while its loading.

Only to find out it was a CTD because you didn't save the game in the perfect location :(

over the years my computers were built better and better and the load times would improve, now it only take a a minute or 2, but the crashing it seems is still here and will always be part of SH3.

I've spent hours upon hours, reloading the game, reinstalling mods and even formatting at one time only to find out we really don't have a clue of why these crashes happen.


Up to you. There a plenty here including myself who are glad to help installing Hsie's patch. Anvar1061 is one of the most knowledgable and helpful people here; he asked you a question earlier.
I would bet it's not installed correctly.

Regarding SH3 crashing, there is always a reason. CTD's don't happen "just because."

I've been running GWX with both Hsie's and Stiebler's patches along with several other mods for many campaigns now. Others have too.

Sometimes I get a ctd trying to load a saved game, many times not, and when I do if I keep trying it eventually loads.

I never have that problem with NYGM fwiw. Most likely the difference is the number of units (ships, planes, boats, etc.) in GWX vs NYGM trying to load.

But as I said, up to you.

[John Pancoast]

yea basically, is there a list of mods somewhere written that is not compatible with the HSIE? if so that would be cool, something tells me it doesn't exist.

pretty sure I installed the patch correctly, I could try again, not going to put this much effort into it, I hate going through this.

Over the years when I first got SH3 and got into adding mods I went through this crap, many here will remember waiting 10+ minutes for SH3 GWX with mods to load, used to go for a walk or take a shower while its loading.

Only to find out it was a CTD because you didn't save the game in the perfect location :(

over the years my computers were built better and better and the load times would improve, now it only take a a minute or 2, but the crashing it seems is still here and will always be part of SH3.

I've spent hours upon hours, reloading the game, reinstalling mods and even formatting at one time only to find out we really don't have a clue of why these crashes happen.

Also btw, it's not just if a mod is compatible with another. The order mods are installed can make a difference too as to whether they cause problems or not.
That's why I asked for your mod list.

I.e., Hsie's should in general be the last mod installed. Is it in your case ?

[Anvar1061]

Thank you for listening to my humble opinion. The first thing I do when I get a CTD I check the game SH Validator. And only after that I look for an error deleting the latest mods.

[John Pancoast]

Thank you for listening to my humble opinion. The first thing I do when I get a CTD I check the game SH Validator. And only after that I look for an error deleting the latest mods.

A very good troubleshooting procedure.

[Anvar1061]

In the patch Stiebler & H. Sie's V16C there is a module CAM ship, which many do not pay attention to. Need to change
ClassName=M36B
UnitType=8; 102
in data/Cammpaigns/Campaign_RND.mis and Campaign_SCR.mis files, Otherwise will CTD 100%.

[John Pancoast]

In the patch Stiebler & H. Sie's V16C there is a module CAM ship, which many do not pay attention to. Need to change
ClassName=M36B
UnitType=8; 102
in data/Cammpaigns/Campaign_RND.mis and Campaign_SCR.mis files, Otherwise will CTD 100%.

Very common error. But I think he's only running Hsie's patch and the cam ship is only applied with Stiebler's.

I'm curious about the statement "I forgot about the 4gb patch"; does this mean the one with Hsie's patch, some other one, or what.

[fastfed]

Also btw, it's not just if a mod is compatible with another. The order mods are installed can make a difference too as to whether they cause problems or not.
That's why I asked for your mod list.

I.e., Hsie's should in general be the last mod installed. Is it in your case ?

Yes,the supplemental mod for Hsie is the last to be installed.

[fastfed]

Very common error. But I think he's only running Hsie's patch and the cam ship is only applied with Stiebler's.

I'm curious about the statement "I forgot about the 4gb patch"; does this mean the one with Hsie's patch, some other one, or what.

I was explaining that I was getting a CTD after I installed a small handful of mods,only to realize I forgot about the 4gb patch, allowing the game to use more memory.

After I installed that it fixed my issue, running fine as stated for many missions.


Installed the hsie, patched the sh3.exe, loaded in the extra messages, loaded the wolfpacks and enabled the supplement via jsgme . CTD in heavy ports/lots of loading of stuff.

I deleted the campaign file thinking I messed up the wolfpacks info, no change

[John Pancoast]

I was explaining that I was getting a CTD after I installed a small handful of mods,only to realize I forgot about the 4gb patch, allowing the game to use more memory.

After I installed that it fixed my issue, running fine as stated for many missions.


Installed the hsie, patched the sh3.exe, loaded in the extra messages, loaded the wolfpacks and enabled the supplement via jsgme . CTD in heavy ports/lots of loading of stuff.

I deleted the campaign file thinking I messed up the wolfpacks info, no change

There is a 4gb patch that comes with Hsie's too. Ctds as you describe can be caused by memory problems.

- Did you install Hsie's 4gb patch too ? It is applied via default. One would have to uncheck it to not install it.

- Did you do the wolfpack tests mentioned in his patch documentation ?

[fastfed]

There is a 4gb patch that comes with Hsie's too. Ctds as you describe can be caused by memory problems.

- Did you install Hsie's 4gb patch too ? It is applied via default. One would have to uncheck it to not install it.

- Did you do the wolfpack tests mentioned in his patch documentation ?

I did install hsi 4gb patch because I did not unceck it.

Was I supposed to?

[fastfed]

I had hope.. It was a quiet night, moon was high the air was crisp.

I redid the hsi ensuring to uncheck the 4gb patch


started a new career via sub commander, left lorrient on oct of 42 with a big boat, type 9, but before I could.

CTD

lol

welcome to sh3

[John Pancoast]

I did install hsi 4gb patch because I did not unceck it.

Was I supposed to?

Since you had already installed a 4gb patch, no need to install Hsie's. I don't know if installing two would cause problems, but I would think it could.

Anyone else answer that ?

[John Pancoast]

I had hope.. It was a quiet night, moon was high the air was crisp.

I redid the hsi ensuring to uncheck the 4gb patch


started a new career via sub commander, left lorrient on oct of 42 with a big boat, type 9, but before I could.

CTD

lol

welcome to sh3


I just spent twelve game hours stalking an NYGM convoy/playing cat and mouse with a port side escort the entire time.
Fair weather, cloudy, perfect for a night surface attack.

Night comes, pack is assembled. Just as I'm getting into attack position, the weather breaks and the sky clears !
Went from perfect surface attack conditions to bright, clear night with an escort close by !

The pack had struck already (sunk five so far), and I find myself in the midst of ships trying to escape, including a carrier !
But the escort nearest me was drawn off by the pack anyway.

Ships getting hit, escorts engaging the pack, other ships trying to get away and me just trying to not be seen/run over by any of them now, with no chance to fire without a major change of plan which I may not get the chance to do.

You think a ctd is frustrating ! Shadow/report a convoy for twelve game hours and not one shot yet, lol.

[John Pancoast]

Fwiw, I'd recommend a new install of sh3 1.4/gwx with only the Hsie patch extra.

No other mods. Get that working and go from there. If you do, use the 4gb patch with Hsie's patch.

[Randomizer]

Since you had already installed a 4gb patch, no need to install Hsie's. I don't know if installing two would cause problems, but I would think it could.

Anyone else answer that ?
When you open LAA on the advance setting and point it to the relevant SH3 executable it should show True when LAA is active and this should be the case with the 4GB Patch from H.Sei is already applied. If LAA shows False, no 4GB patch has been applied.

My admittedly limited experimenting indicates that LAA will not apply itself over H.Sie's 4GB patch but don't know about the other way around.

-C

[John Pancoast]

When you open LAA on the advance setting and point it to the relevant SH3 executable it should show True when LAA is active and this should be the case with the 4GB Patch from H.Sei is already applied. If LAA shows False, no 4GB patch has been applied.

My admittedly limited experimenting indicates that LAA will not apply itself over H.Sie's 4GB patch but don't know about the other way around.

-C

Thanks !

[fastfed]

brand new install of sh3. deleted everything included in documents.

unsintalled sh3 commander too.

resintall sh3 gwx gold
installed sh3 commander
install sh3 commanders little extra gwx files needed via .exe

I tested before I ran sh3 and it was fine.

with commander, CTD

lol

[fastfed]

something isn't right, even after I uninstalled commander and load sh3 with the normal exe file, it still says loaded via sub commander on the bottom, like wtf is going on here.

oh thats right, SH3 install and part of the game

[fastfed]

oh and yea before anyone asks, I have roll back checked, and it still says when trying to launch sh3 by itself, loaded with SH3 commander.

Seriously, im now 1.3 hours into messing with this, same crap.

Tried to install the HSI for the 4gb patch, hoping that was the cause of the CTD, although with no mods doubtful. and while the hsi was a success. CTD CTD CTD CTD!!!

seriously, this is getting so lame

[propbeanie]

Did you empty your SH3 save folder again? That would something like "C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH3. The game runs off the information in that folder, and if the Save says commander is in there, commander is in there, and it will crash you every time. Any major changes in the mods or configuration of the game, and you need to empty the Save folder. :salute:

[Nicolas]

I think i read somewhere that you need fixed files to use with sh3 commander with gwx, maybe someone can give you a link.

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi guys
SH3Commander v3.2 Configuration File Needed If GWX3.0 Has Been Installed (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1421)
Peter

[fastfed]

no one ready anything did they :(

[Anvar1061]

no one ready anything did they :(

You didn't say anything but blah, blah, blah. Are we supposed to be clairvoyant?

[John Pancoast]

You didn't say anything but blah, blah, blah. Are we supposed to be clairvoyant?

:up:

[propbeanie]

brand new install of sh3. deleted everything included in documents. :up:

unsintalled sh3 commander too.

resintall sh3 gwx gold
installed sh3 commander
install sh3 commanders little extra gwx files needed via .exe

I tested before I ran sh3 and it was fine.

with commander, CTD

lol

something isn't right, even after I uninstalled commander and load sh3 with the normal exe file, it still says loaded via sub commander on the bottom, like wtf is going on here.

oh thats right, SH3 install and part of the game
Did you delete the Save folder again?
oh and yea before anyone asks, I have roll back checked, and it still says when trying to launch sh3 by itself, loaded with SH3 commander.

Seriously, im now 1.3 hours into messing with this, same crap.

Tried to install the HSI for the 4gb patch, hoping that was the cause of the CTD, although with no mods doubtful. and while the hsi was a success. CTD CTD CTD CTD!!!

seriously, this is getting so lame

no one ready anything did they :(
?? is there more? You really shouldn't willy-nilly mods and utilities in and out of the game. Install SH3 in a non- "Program Files" folder. Empty any Save folders you might have. Any and all Saves are suspect. There are several options to get a 4gig patch to set the bits on the SH3.exe file, but SH3.exe cannot be "Read-only" in Windows. Make certain SH3 runs properly on its own again first. Then attempt to do a simple mod and see how it goes. Once the first mod works, add a 2nd. etc., but test between steps if possible. If we missed another statement, sorry. :salute: