Shooting in Moscow.

[ikalugin]

Yesterday (on their proffesional holiday) a man attacked the FSB (Russian equivalent of the FBI) headquarters with a gun, was killed by the responding special forces.


He was a 39 year old male legal-sphere worker called Eugene from Moscow suburbs.


I guess the US culture is spreading around.

[Skybird]

Any word on the Why and motives?


BTW, its not Americna culture, I call it rat culture for sure: in experiments it was shown that if you crowd too many rats together in one tank, or let their population reach a certain critical treshhold level, they start to attack each other and bite each other to death. It leads as far as that only a very few survive.

[ikalugin]

I would assume that this was just a lonely madman trying to do suicide by cop.


No manifesto or anything of that sort was presented yet.

[Skybird]

German media reported the Moscow police rates it as a terror attack so far...?!

[Jimbuna]

I would assume that this was just a lonely madman trying to do suicide by cop.




Then he certainly got his wish.

GOOD RIDDANCE!!

[August]

Yesterday (on their proffesional holiday) a man attacked the FSB (Russian equivalent of the FBI) headquarters with a gun, was killed by the responding special forces.


He was a 39 year old male legal-sphere worker called Eugene from Moscow suburbs.


I guess the US culture is spreading around.


Was it also US culture when your country murdered millions of your own people by starvation and working them to death in your gulags? Was it US culture that poisons dissidents and journalists with radioactive material?

[ikalugin]

Was it also US culture when your country murdered millions of your own people by starvation and working them to death in your gulags? Was it US culture that poisons dissidents and journalists with radioactive material?

Ahh, yes, Epstine killed himself.

As to the other things - not exactly, the use of camps and the practice of sending convicts to colonise far away places with harsh climates were more of the British invention that we kept going into 1950s.
Starvation was sadly a regular thing back then (Russian Empire had historically significant problems with crop yields and regular famines), but in Soviet case it was reinforced by mismanagement related to industrialisation (the decision to feed workers in cities at the expense of farmers) and was widespread across all the main grain producing Soviet republics (ie RSFSR).

[Catfish]

What about the shooting of the Georgian in Germany?

[Skybird]

What about the shooting of the Georgian in Germany?
Interior minister Seehofer said a few days ago he puts his trust in and relies on working with Russia to solve the crime.

:haha:

[Catfish]

Putin said he thought Germany would not surrender said person, so he said he "did not pose a formal request for extradition".
At the same time Lawrow officially asks for a better relationship whith the EU. Russian humour.

Could it be the man attacking the FSB was one of the last sane persons in Russia?

[Skybird]

Putin said he thought Germany would not surrender said person, so he said he "did not pose a formal request for extradition".
At the same time Lawrow officially asks for a better relationship whith the EU. Russian humour.

Could it be the man attacking the FSB was one of the last sane persons in Russia?
By Russians standards that would qualify him as a comedian. Laughed himself to death.

[ikalugin]

Putin said he thought Germany would not surrender said person, so he said he "did not pose a formal request for extradition".
At the same time Lawrow officially asks for a better relationship whith the EU. Russian humour.

Could it be the man attacking the FSB was one of the last sane persons in Russia?
Considering how there was no manifesto etc I doubt that.


Seems like suicide by a cop.

[ikalugin]

German media reported the Moscow police rates it as a terror attack so far...?!
I mean it is one of the ways they can classify it I guess.


https://www.rbc.ru/society/20/12/2019/5dfc571d9a79477c50a4290b?from=from_main



So far the gist seems to be that he was a security guard who was also a gun enthusiast. Allegedly his ladyfriend left him shortly before the attack.

[Catfish]

Considering how there was no manifesto etc I doubt that. Seems like suicide by a cop.
umm, we were speaking about the murdering in Germany :hmmm:
But it does not really fit into this thread, ok.

[Mr Quatro]

headquarters with a gun, was killed by the responding special forces.

The actual reporting of this incident was that the suspect was neutralized :hmmm:

[ikalugin]

Dead people tend to be unable to shoot guns.

[August]

Dead people tend to be unable to shoot guns.


The ultimate gun control tactic, kill everyone potentially able to wield a gun to prevent 100% of gun related crime.

[Dmitry Markov]

Unfortunately this ill-minded "gun enthusiast" killed one FSB serviceman and lately another one has died in hospital. Three more people are still in hospital including one occasional passer-by (( As ikalugin has said - maybe in US this kind of shootouts are sadly common these days but for our country this still is unusual even after loud cases of school shooting in Moscow in 2014 and college shooting in Crimea in 2018.

[ikalugin]

You can see an account by an independent ex-military blogger here:
https://translate.google.ru/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Ftwower.livejournal.com%2F2404389.h tml