Ships that never were

[Kapitan]

I figured i would try something different for a change, as you guys are well aware i have a fond love of anything naval, that includes ships and submarines that haven't been built as well.

I saw a program a while back on abandoned engineering and oddly they mentioned a ship that was never fully realized.

So here is my top 5 ships that didn't make it, you could say they are the what could have been.

https://www.immortalwordsmith.co.uk/top-5-ships-that-never-were/

[Armistead]

The aircraft carrier made of ice

https://www.cnn.com/style/article/project-habbakuk-ice-aircraft-carrier/index.html

[Jimbuna]

The aircraft carrier made of ice

https://www.cnn.com/style/article/project-habbakuk-ice-aircraft-carrier/index.html

My personal favourite but I would also have liked to see the CVA-O1 come to fruition.

[Kapitan]

Indeed jim the CVA01 in the falklands well wouldn’t that have been something

[Jimbuna]

Aye, having the F4 phantom as well as the Buccaneer would have beefed up our air strike capability more than ten fold.

[Kapitan]

Just imagine it now F4 chasing down daggers etendard and sky hawks while buccaneers bomb land targets

What a mix

[Reece]

I vote for old time sake they build the KM FÜHRER. :up:

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/457b6747-8c3f-4acc-8a43-0354940679eb/d233i86-6ce870eb-fce1-493a-9498-1c632ee28226.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJ IUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQz NzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZT BkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6 W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzQ1N2I2NzQ3LThjM2YtNGFjYy04YT QzLTAzNTQ5NDA2NzllYlwvZDIzM2k4Ni02Y2U4NzBlYi1mY2Ux LTQ5M2EtOTQ5OC0xYzYzMmVlMjgyMjYuanBnIn1dXSwiYXVkIj pbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.YVv2V7IE gNX1PoLc30q-llmQ9LybWqg6xvcSoYJN5Rc

[Jimbuna]

Just imagine it now F4 chasing down daggers etendard and sky hawks while buccaneers bomb land targets

What a mix

Mind you, I'm not taking anything away from the Harriers, their kill rate ratio was most impressive.

Starting with just 20 Sea Harriers, a further eight joined the Task Force by mid-May. A total of six were lost by accident or ground fire, and not one in air-to-air combat.

On the other hand the Argentine losses were 44 aircraft of all types shot down by enemy fire, 31 of those being fighters and 18 of which were as a result of Sea Harrier CAP.

A better breakdown of the figures below.
https://www.quora.com/How-many-Argentinian-aircraft-did-the-UK-destroy-in-the-Falklands-conflict

[Kapitan]

The harriers were impressive I can always remember the broadcast it appears on all documentaries I can’t say how many took part in the raid against Stanley but I counted them all out and I counted them all back

Guess that’s why the Argentines called the meurta negra

I do think that splendid should have sunk the carrier too maybe then they would have just surrendered

[Jimbuna]

My sources at the time (both political and participants) informed me the US were happy to help in any way but short of physical involvement provided only enough effort was used to retake the islands and not as a result of total annihilation.

I guess a carrier was a price too high.

[Kapitan]

Perhaps but it certainly would have been a huge moral dampener to the argies for sure

I did hear from a few people that the USA would lend us a LPA if anything was to happen to one of our carriers now fill that with harriers and you have one mean machine considering they were twice the size of invincible

[Jimbuna]

Never heard that one but wouldn't that invole US personnel participating in the conflict?

[Kapitan]

Sure I read it somewhere or heard it up have to dig it out

[Jimbuna]

I just can't imagine the US risking their personnel in another countries war zone (did I just post that?)

My understanding was that should either of the carriers be lost there was a strong argument for withdrawal.

[Kapitan]

I think they meant hand one over and have it manned by RN and RNR personnel

When I finish I’m going to hunt down where I heard this

[Jimbuna]

The USS Iwo Jima (LHD-7) Wasp-class amphibious assault ship apparently.

While publicly claiming neutrality between Argentina and the U.K. during the 1982 Falklands War, President Ronald Reagan’s administration had developed plans to loan a ship to the Royal Navy if it lost one of its aircraft carriers in the war, former U.S. Secretary of the Navy, John Lehman, told the U.S. Naval Institute on June 26.

Lehman and then Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger agreed to support U.K. Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher with the loan of the amphibious warship USS Iwo Jima, he said.
https://news.usni.org/2012/06/27/reagan-readied-us-warship-82-falklands-war-0