Sub Sunk!

[Red Devil]

well, my CD version of SH4 has finally sunk. It happened to me once before but somehow it was resurrected from the deep. I took my pc in for a new Samsung V-Nand SSD 970 Evo Plus NV Me M.2. Thats what it says on the box. Its very fast.

Now I have a fast pc but no SH4. :Kaleun_Sick:

I bought the Steam version and that won't even open. It keeps telling me the game is running, and the library says so too, only it isn't. I have only just got steam open about a half hour ago, as the desktop icon refused to open, then, it did.

:doh:

[torpedobait]

well, my CD version of SH4 has finally sunk. It happened to me once before but somehow it was resurrected from the deep. I took my pc in for a new Samsung V-Nand SSD 970 Evo Plus NV Me M.2. Thats what it says on the box. Its very fast.

Now I have a fast pc but no SH4. :Kaleun_Sick:

I bought the Steam version and that won't even open. It keeps telling me the game is running, and the library says so too, only it isn't. I have only just got steam open about a half hour ago, as the desktop icon refused to open, then, it did.

:doh:

I can't help with the Steam version, but there are plenty of postings from others who have made it work, and just as many who haven't!

If all else fails, you can buy a download version of SH4 v1.5 with the Uboat missions on Amazon for $20. That has saved my game several times. Be sure to save the download to a cd in case you lose a drive and need to do it again! The v1.5 is essential if you intend to run one of the many major mods (I love FOTRSU, myself). Good luck! :Kaleun_Salute:

[Red Devil]

I dont use u boats, I am on 1.4 and have no intention of going to 1.5.

1.4 had, apart from once, worked fine on all vers of windows. I seem to recall something in properties and box ticking. But its not loaded at present so unsure.

Steam have offered me some suggestions, but need to check that out first, once reinstalled.

[JapLance]

I dont use u boats, I am on 1.4 and have no intention of going to 1.5.

By staying with 1.4 you're shooting yourself in the foot. Stock game is BAD, and mods improve it in so many ways that it's like playing a different game.

If I were you I would pay a few bucks for 1.5. Not for the U-boats, not for the 1.5 improvements, but for the latest mods.

[Red Devil]

does 1.5 have the pacific theatre, or just u boat

[mikesn9]

does 1.5 have the pacific theatre, or just u boat

BOTH..

use the link under "quick Links" to shop at amazon.

I got the "gold" version while ago.

[propbeanie]

The Steam version is v1.3 or v1.5, and you can no longer apply the v1.4 update to the v1.3 file, due to Steam licensing restrictions. However, the v1.3 should still play fine, even in Windows 10. There are a few "tweaks" you need to do on the executable file though.

First of all, make certain that you installed the "DirectX v9.0c" and its associated Windows Media files. If you have to, run the Steam installer for SH4 again, and be certain that you choose those from the menu, which comes up after the user's agreement, the language choice and the path to install to (as mentioned, change that to something other than Program Files):

https://i.imgur.com/atIImv5.jpg


This is a screen grab from my disk version of v1.5 install, so the Steam v1.3 might be a little bit different, but not much. Do not bother with GameShadow, and you probably don't need that 11 year old+ version of Acrobat Reader. GameShadow shouldn't be on the Steam menu, if I remember correctly... :roll:

After you have the game installed, go into the Steam Library folder where you put the game (Steam can stay in Program Files, but the game cannot), and select the SH4.exe file. I have Steam on my Win10 laptop in a "Games" folder, such that I go to "C:\Games \Steam \SteamApps \common \SH4\", of which I had also renamed the default "Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific" folder to "SH4". Right-click on the executable SH4.exe, and choose "Properties" from the menu with a left-click, then "Compatibility", and click the "Run this program in compatibility mode for", then choose anything from WinXP (SP3) through Windows 7. You could also click the "Run this program as administrator", which would be influenced by how you have the UAC (User Access Control) set-up in Windows. Try it without if you want to, but you might have to come back in. While there anyway, on the "General" tab, make certain that the "Read-only" box toward the bottom of that tab is cleared.

The reason for that last, is so that you can use LAA (Large Address Aware) if you have a 64-bit version of Windows (Win10 usually is) and more than four gig of RAM. That will give the app more room to breathe. Read up on LAA in CapnScurvy's thread Windows10; Large Address Aware; SH4 Install (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2452635#post2452635). For those with other Windows 64-bit OSes, it can still be used, from Vista through Win10... :salute:

[Red Devil]

[QUOTE] on the executable SH4.exe, and choose "Properties" from the menu with a left-click, then "Compatibility", and click the "Run this program in compatibility mode for", then choose anything from WinXP (SP3) through Windows 7. You could also click the "Run this program as administrator", [UNQUOTE]

In the steam ver - this is becoming even weirder - after properties, there is none of the above. I am going to try and install the disk version again; I think what you are describing is in fact the disk ver.

[Red Devil]

Prop - done as you asked after installing disk ver and patch 1.4. I set it to run as admin and the DPI setting to 'override' and 'system'. Current is Win XP Sp3, still not working so going to leave it till tomorrow now, getting a headache, eye ache bum ache and tired :k_confused:

[cdrsubron7]

well, my CD version of SH4 has finally sunk. It happened to me once before but somehow it was resurrected from the deep. I took my pc in for a new Samsung V-Nand SSD 970 Evo Plus NV Me M.2. Thats what it says on the box. Its very fast.

Now I have a fast pc but no SH4. :Kaleun_Sick:

I bought the Steam version and that won't even open. It keeps telling me the game is running, and the library says so too, only it isn't. I have only just got steam open about a half hour ago, as the desktop icon refused to open, then, it did.

:doh:


I'm running my OS (Win 10 64-bit) on a 970 Evo Plus and I agree it is very fast. I have a 960 Evo M2 from my last build that I never used. However I'm using it in my current build and this is where I have v1.5 of SH4 installed. If I'm reading your post correctly are you saying that the 970 Evo plus has something to do with SH4 not working? If so I think that they're are other factors which are contributing to your problem. You shouldn't have any problems running v1.4 or 1.5 on the 970 Evo. Not knowing you're computer specs makes it hard to comment on the problems you're having. But as was said above, some people have problems running SH4 under Win 10. who knows. :06:

[propbeanie]

Check the DirectX v9.0c and make certain it's on your computer as mentioned above. Even though you might have DirectX v12, you still need to install DirectX v9.0c - the one with the Steam install - so that the game can do the 3D properly. It will not overwrite the newer version, only add files. The newer versions of DirectX do not have all of the library files that SH4 needs.

Also, if you aren't getting the full "Properties" dialog, then you are either hitting the ico file, or you are in an incorrect folder and hitting the shortcut instead, or you're in the Steam Library, which also has a "Properties" dialog. You want this:

https://i.imgur.com/fT3Rhwa.jpg

and go to this:

https://i.imgur.com/rPCztTL.jpg

You might also have to tweak that "Change high DPI settings" dialog... That is for my SH3, of course, and with SH4, you can choose anything between XP and Win7. :salute:

[Red Devil]

I have removed the steam version and been refunded. I am going to work on the cd shortly. thanks, for now, for all the tips. DX9 is auto loaded via cd. What it does not do is load adobe reader, telling me a higher ver is already loaded.

[Red Devil]

update: installed fresh SH4 after making sure no residuals left. Did the compat check and admin tick and placed shortcut on desktop.

Installed patch 1.4 only to find, for the first time, it refused, telling me sh4.exe was corrupt!:/\\!!

[Sailor Steve]

What it does not do is load adobe reader, telling me a higher ver is already loaded.
That is as it should be. You should be fine.

Installed patch 1.4 only to find, for the first time, it refused, telling me sh4.exe was corrupt!:/\\!!
Which disk version do you have? It's my understanding that later versions are already patched to 1.4. Trying to patch it again on top of that can cause odd messages. Try running the game without patching it and see what version the loading screen says you have.

[Red Devil]

disk ver is original. On previous machines always added 1.4.

[propbeanie]

I cannot find my v1.01 (or whatever it was) that I got Spring 2007, but I never had issues with installing the v1.4 update on top of it, but of course, that was the Windows XP days... Anyway, one thing to do is to right-click your SH4.exe file, left-click "properties" on the menu, and see if it is set to "Read-only" under the attributes section on the "General" tab. If there is a check mark in the box, then that's the issue. OH! Don't forget to right-click the update file, and choose "Run as administrator"... :salute:

[Red Devil]

This is really weird. I had the idea of replacing the display cable (4K 28 inch monitor) with the HGMI cable. And installed SH4 from disk. The sim loaded but at massively corrupt graphics. The screen was so big half the thing was missing. After playing around with the graphics, it still would not sit right, so in desperation, I replaced the display port cable and did a compat check with troubleshooter. It ran the game but with the icons super small, I could hardly see them. So I played around with the graphics again and the troubleshooter and finally got a working model. I have no idea what I did that worked, but even though screen graphics are not 'quite' what I want, I can live with it I suppose. Now, to find the mods again :arrgh!:

[propbeanie]

What is the "Native" resolution of the monitor - 3840x2160? I have a 27" 1080p monitor that's running at 1920x1080, and I have no issues. If I look in the "Resolution" settings for Windows, it will show "1920x1080 (recommended)". You want to use the "recommended" setting, if you aren't. In the game itself, at the main menu, "Options" menu choice, then "Graphic Settings" menu choice in there, and finally, the "Game Resolution" drop-down box. Toward the bottom of the drop-down list might be a setting that matches your monitor and Windows Display settings. In my case, I had to choose "1920x1080 60Hz", even though my monitor runs at 40Hz. Even if you get really close, you might have to experiment with the "Display Scaling on high DPI settings" on the "Compatibility" tab of the "Properties" dialog for the SH4.exe file, as described above. If you can't exactly match the 3840x2160, choose a 16:9 setting, such as 1920x1080 (1/2 resolution). You might still have to experiment with the "high DPI" settings... No matter what though, you might have to change your Windows Display settings to get larger icons for your desktop, and in the game, you might have to use a mod that gives you larger dials. I know I do... :roll: oldmanitis... :salute:

btw, the HDMI cable on my set-up worked fine, and I got sound through the monitor speakers also, which irritated the ~fire~ out of my wife... "Turn that thing DOWN!" :har:

[Red Devil]

the res is 3840 (recommended). The sound is patched into my new hearing aids (I have 40% loss in ears). I also have external speakers. The sim opens with mismatched opening graphics and when I actually set sail, the images are perfect (1.4 patch added, disk is 1.3). Game is good at that stage. Did run out and attacked 2 ships with torps and gunfire; seems ok, graphics high. I will try the 1920 x 1080.


edit. on your setting its great. Many thanks, delighted to be setting sail again.

[propbeanie]

If you get a resolution "switch" as the game is loading, then that is the Game, Options, Graphic Settings, Game Resolution not matching Windows settings. Once the screen loads, it doesn't care 'bout no shtinking Windows... :O:

[Red Devil]

my problem is crap memory. I have used all fixes for diff things in the past, but when something comes up, cant remember.

:Kaleun_Salute:

[propbeanie]

Yeah, and folks worry about their computer memory... :har:

[Red Devil]

Off and on I have been running SH4 and it seems to be that the graphics have actually improved. This is with your recommended settings. I am wondering also if my problems were possibly due to the monitor too. It was on display port (4k); then briefly on HGMI then back to DP, which may have jogged the monitor into actually doing something itself??? One of lifes eternal mysteries :yeah: