So I'm back to this ...

[jscharpf]

Hopefully I won't hurt anyone's feelings. I really appreciate the efforts of developers when it comes to new sub sim games. I've purchased and played Wolfpack. Great game indeed. I have watched enough videos of UBOAT.. Also a great looking game...however.

I find myself coming back to Silent Hunter 3.

Weird.. Wolfpack is cool, great fun on a winter Saturday afternoon to play with a group of friends..

.. but after a few missions, when you've run through the procedures for diving, leveling off, hydrophones, chase.. find.. kill.. etc..
.. at some point you long for more... some type of career.. or .. I don't know.. to go out, find the convoy, kill it.. rinse, repeat.. after a while .. I grew tired of it..
Not to mention the idiots who log in and start screwing up your sub.. I guess I'm saying... the lack of depth is what may kill this game.

I went online and found only two lobbies. One was locked... it appears that the mad rush to play has sort of died down..

For me, I find myself wanting to re-install SH3, so I can go out on a mission with some purpose.. the war is going on, I may go to the north sea, I may go west, I may find convoys, I may not, I may return, maybe not.. but there will be a real purpose to every mission.

I'm wondering if anyone here feels the same; that, this recent surge of new sub games seems to have targeted the X-Box user, great graphics, really cool scenarios, but not very deep.

I'm not saying these games are bad. No, they are fun, but after playing Wolpack and seeing many videos of UBOAT, I really appreciate how good of a game Silent Hunter 3 really is.

:Kaleun_Cheers:

[clayton]

I'm thinking of coming back too...at least until UBoat gets right, but I don't know where to begin anymore. I enjoyed SH5, but that whole '1 knot underwater or the escorts will find you', kills it for me. I really like the idea of Wolfpacks in SH3, but I'm lost with everything out there for the game.

[vadupleix]

Last time I played SH series was 8 years ago and I’ve been watching UBOAT for more than a year, bought it on release but only had 4-5 hrs in it. The game looks so unfinished at this point but judging by the attitude of the developer it will have a bright future given 1-2 years of time and sufficient funding.

And yes, I installed SH3 back and went through all the troubles during past couple days and finally get a working and (hopefully) stable game.

[Sailor Steve]

Right now I've been so tied up with multiple projects (The '100 Years' thread, working with friends on revising rules for our tabletop wargames) that my computer gaming time is severely limited, and I've been using that to play Wings Over Flanders' Fields. That said, my thoughts are always returning to sub sims, and when they do I remember that after fourteen years I never did complete a career in SH3. And I want to get back to it.

Yes, SH3 looks old and clunky compared to more modern sims. I would rather play SH4, as I think it's the better platform. The problem is that it never got the attention from modders that SH3 did. In stock SH3 there isn't even the Kiel Canal. Not only was it modded in but now you can sail through the locks and even have to wait for the gates to open. The variety of bridges, including the rotating bridge. It's silly, but no other sub sim has anything like that.

SH5 has some interesting new stuff, but it also feels to me like it's lacking something. You can try hard to make a better sim, but if you lose what made the ones you love great, then you haven't really gained anything.

I'm interested in the newer sims, but I'm still drawn back to SH3, and probably will be until I've finally completed that career.

[clayton]

Right now I've been so tied up with multiple projects (The '100 Years' thread, working with friends on revising rules for our tabletop wargames) that my computer gaming time is severely limited, and I've been using that to play Wings Over Flanders' Fields. That said, my thoughts are always returning to sub sims, and when they do I remember that after fourteen years I never did complete a career in SH3. And I want to get back to it.

Yes, SH3 looks old and clunky compared to more modern sims. I would rather play SH4, as I think it's the better platform. The problem is that it never got the attention from modders that SH3 did. In stock SH3 there isn't even the Kiel Canal. Not only was it modded in but now you can sail through the locks and even have to wait for the gates to open. The variety of bridges, including the rotating bridge. It's silly, but no other sub sim has anything like that.

SH5 has some interesting new stuff, but it also feels to me like it's lacking something. You can try hard to make a better sim, but if you lose what made the ones you love great, then you haven't really gained anything.

I'm interested in the newer sims, but I'm still drawn back to SH3, and probably will be until I've finally completed that career.
Ive seen your posts over at WOFF. Have you tried WOTR yet? It's pretty good, but nowhere near Flanders Fields

[Sailor Steve]

Ive seen your posts over at WOFF. Have you tried WOTR yet? It's pretty good, but nowhere near Flanders Fields
No, but only because at this point I don't have time to help test new games. I love the Battle of Britain era, but I'm just not up to playing a Hurricane against a Bf-109 with no other options. I'll wait until they've had some time.

[Carlito48]

Hopefully I won't hurt anyone's feelings. I really appreciate the efforts of developers when it comes to new sub sim games. I've purchased and played Wolfpack. Great game indeed. I have watched enough videos of UBOAT.. Also a great looking game...however.

I find myself coming back to Silent Hunter 3.

Weird.. Wolfpack is cool, great fun on a winter Saturday afternoon to play with a group of friends..

.. but after a few missions, when you've run through the procedures for diving, leveling off, hydrophones, chase.. find.. kill.. etc..
.. at some point you long for more... some type of career.. or .. I don't know.. to go out, find the convoy, kill it.. rinse, repeat.. after a while .. I grew tired of it..
Not to mention the idiots who log in and start screwing up your sub.. I guess I'm saying... the lack of depth is what may kill this game.

I went online and found only two lobbies. One was locked... it appears that the mad rush to play has sort of died down..

For me, I find myself wanting to re-install SH3, so I can go out on a mission with some purpose.. the war is going on, I may go to the north sea, I may go west, I may find convoys, I may not, I may return, maybe not.. but there will be a real purpose to every mission.

I'm wondering if anyone here feels the same; that, this recent surge of new sub games seems to have targeted the X-Box user, great graphics, really cool scenarios, but not very deep.

I'm not saying these games are bad. No, they are fun, but after playing Wolpack and seeing many videos of UBOAT, I really appreciate how good of a game Silent Hunter 3 really is.

:Kaleun_Cheers:I agree... in toto!!! SH3 is the best sub game for me!! Wonderfull !!!:Kaleun_Cheers:

[Krieg Francis]

I came back mainly because UBOAT let me down a little bit at it's current state.
I mean, there's plenty to do with crew management, but I can't say the same for the rest of the war, especially for missions and ship variety.

GWX, here I come!
:Kaleun_Salute:

[Damo]

Ahh SH3, what a special game it is to me. I originally got it from a friend who was throwing it out and I asked if I could have it. I remember the dinosaur of a PC I had at the time was at it's limits so it wasn't a great experience to start with. Then I built my first PC and loaded it back up and started playing again, but by then I'd discovered the world of modding and that led me here to Subsim, exactly 10 years and 10 days ago. I never had any interest in submarines or naval warfare at all before this point but as I sat until the early hours of the morning perusing the mod threads I came across GWX and promptly downloaded it. It was a while before I played as I was so engrossed in the documentation that came with it, a true work of excellence by all involved. At this point the modding bug bit and I found myself languishing in 'Mod Soup', not always successfully of course which led me to delve in and start editing and merging files to get an install that would load, not an easy task. It's why my location over on the left there is what it is.

I actually spent more time tweaking and editing than playing and I too, like Sailor Steve have never finished a career. I could never quite leave it alone, with new mods appearing every visit to Subsim I was doomed to restart over and over. The game just grabbed me and I wanted to make it as good as I could but it wouldn't have been possible without the talented people here who are so willing to help or spend hours perfecting mods that made my game what it was. Once I discovered SH3Commander it was on a whole new level and I was checking uboat.net to see the history of the boats I was playing with and making sure I used the correct emblems, I became quite the perfectionist, and now have quite an extensive knowledge of the War of the Atlantic.


As the game aged I looked to SH4 and Uboat Missions but it wasn't the same for some reason, like a lot of people say, it just didn't get the love SH3 did. Then SH5 was nearing release and I was stoked, giddy even about SH3 with next gen graphics. Oh what a travesty..... But, eventually it became an enjoyable sim again thanks to the people here and I played that on and off for the next few years. Again though, it lacked, I think mainly in atmosphere and the feeling you get from being down in the depths getting pinged and DC'd by stubborn Brits. I played it far less than SH3 and I think the last time I booted it up I sat and looked at the screen before shutting it straight off again, the draw was gone.


Now up to date I looked into Uboat and while it's got potential, it isn't a 'sim' as such, not like SH3 modded, so I started digging through my stuff until I found the CD that I'd copied my entire SH3 install onto many years ago because I knew I'd tweaked it so hard that I'd never be able to replicate it again, and here I am, after a LOT of trial and error and adding/removing new/old mods with a working SH3 with all the bells and whistles I love. Graphics will always come second to gameplay, SH3 taught me that. I'll include my modlist below and I know there's some old stuff in it but I can't face anymore tinkering and there are probably many manual edits that I've long forgotten about. It works, and I'm going to finish a career!



Thanks to all that made this little nostalgia trip possible.


:Kaleun_Salute:


GWX - Wilhemshafen,St Naz,Schluese and xtra ships V5
Community units
Conus' Historically Accurate U-boat Emblems 1.3
DD_OH_V3.09_20091209162038
DFant_subFlag_2010
Rbs1_SH4_Effects_GWX_30_71
LifeBoats&Debris_v4
Waterstream+Exhaust Combi V2.3 for GWX3
SH4StyleFlags_GWX
OLC's Modified Searchlight Beams for GWX3
ANZACMICKS DAMAGE IMMERSION
M.E.P v5
M.E.P v5- VisualSensors for GWX3
Sober's 3D Waves
Ahnenerbe WideGui 1920 x 1080 Final
Torpedo_HAHD_1024_GWX
Merchant_Fleet_Mod_3.2
Ricks_GWX_Rec_Man_Final
ANZACMICKS DAMAGE IMMERSION layer 2
Flags_enlighten
TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Disturbance_v4_0_SH3
TheDarkWraith_Ship_Plane_Fire_Damage_v1_4_SH3
Optional - FSF for MEP v5
Foam
Sound
IXBsplint camo
VIIB Early War Skin
Optional - ShipVanishingHull for MEP v5
Optional - Stock Reflections for MEP v5
Optional - Zoomable Free Camera
Aces Hi Res Uniforms and Medals Mk 2
b25_Louder_Diesels
Thomsen Parameters
FM_NewInterior v2.1D
Type VII salvo selector
Supplement to V16B1 (JSGME)
ARB WideGui 1920x1080
TychoSh3Patch_v3

[John Pancoast]

Ahh SH3, what a special game it is to me. I originally got it from a friend who was throwing it out and I asked if I could have it. I remember the dinosaur of a PC I had at the time was at it's limits so it wasn't a great experience to start with. Then I built my first PC and loaded it back up and started playing again, but by then I'd discovered the world of modding and that led me here to Subsim, exactly 10 years and 10 days ago. I never had any interest in submarines or naval warfare at all before this point but as I sat until the early hours of the morning perusing the mod threads I came across GWX and promptly downloaded it. It was a while before I played as I was so engrossed in the documentation that came with it, a true work of excellence by all involved. At this point the modding bug bit and I found myself languishing in 'Mod Soup', not always successfully of course which led me to delve in and start editing and merging files to get an install that would load, not an easy task. It's why my location over on the left there is what it is.

I actually spent more time tweaking and editing than playing and I too, like Sailor Steve have never finished a career. I could never quite leave it alone, with new mods appearing every visit to Subsim I was doomed to restart over and over. The game just grabbed me and I wanted to make it as good as I could but it wouldn't have been possible without the talented people here who are so willing to help or spend hours perfecting mods that made my game what it was. Once I discovered SH3Commander it was on a whole new level and I was checking uboat.net to see the history of the boats I was playing with and making sure I used the correct emblems, I became quite the perfectionist, and now have quite an extensive knowledge of the War of the Atlantic.


As the game aged I looked to SH4 and Uboat Missions but it wasn't the same for some reason, like a lot of people say, it just didn't get the love SH3 did. Then SH5 was nearing release and I was stoked, giddy even about SH3 with next gen graphics. Oh what a travesty..... But, eventually it became an enjoyable sim again thanks to the people here and I played that on and off for the next few years. Again though, it lacked, I think mainly in atmosphere and the feeling you get from being down in the depths getting pinged and DC'd by stubborn Brits. I played it far less than SH3 and I think the last time I booted it up I sat and looked at the screen before shutting it straight off again, the draw was gone.


Now up to date I looked into Uboat and while it's got potential, it isn't a 'sim' as such, not like SH3 modded, so I started digging through my stuff until I found the CD that I'd copied my entire SH3 install onto many years ago because I knew I'd tweaked it so hard that I'd never be able to replicate it again, and here I am, after a LOT of trial and error and adding/removing new/old mods with a working SH3 with all the bells and whistles I love. Graphics will always come second to gameplay, SH3 taught me that. I'll include my modlist below and I know there's some old stuff in it but I can't face anymore tinkering and there are probably many manual edits that I've long forgotten about. It works, and I'm going to finish a career!



Thanks to all that made this little nostalgia trip possible.


:Kaleun_Salute:


GWX - Wilhemshafen,St Naz,Schluese and xtra ships V5
Community units
Conus' Historically Accurate U-boat Emblems 1.3
DD_OH_V3.09_20091209162038
DFant_subFlag_2010
Rbs1_SH4_Effects_GWX_30_71
LifeBoats&Debris_v4
Waterstream+Exhaust Combi V2.3 for GWX3
SH4StyleFlags_GWX
OLC's Modified Searchlight Beams for GWX3
ANZACMICKS DAMAGE IMMERSION
M.E.P v5
M.E.P v5- VisualSensors for GWX3
Sober's 3D Waves
Ahnenerbe WideGui 1920 x 1080 Final
Torpedo_HAHD_1024_GWX
Merchant_Fleet_Mod_3.2
Ricks_GWX_Rec_Man_Final
ANZACMICKS DAMAGE IMMERSION layer 2
Flags_enlighten
TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Disturbance_v4_0_SH3
TheDarkWraith_Ship_Plane_Fire_Damage_v1_4_SH3
Optional - FSF for MEP v5
Foam
Sound
IXBsplint camo
VIIB Early War Skin
Optional - ShipVanishingHull for MEP v5
Optional - Stock Reflections for MEP v5
Optional - Zoomable Free Camera
Aces Hi Res Uniforms and Medals Mk 2
b25_Louder_Diesels
Thomsen Parameters
FM_NewInterior v2.1D
Type VII salvo selector
Supplement to V16B1 (JSGME)
ARB WideGui 1920x1080
TychoSh3Patch_v3



If as you state graphics are second, you should check out the cd version of Aces of the Deep. (Not the "Command" version).
It's enemy/escort AI is something to be feared and respected vs. any SH3 of the same. Other things done better too; i.e., larger convoys, atmosphere, etc., but the AI is the largest difference.

[Sailor Steve]

I have both versions of Aces Of The Deep, and I agree - for the very best organization and AI there is still nothing like it. Unfortunately I'm a sucker - not for the graphics so much as the visceral appeal. I love sailing out of the harbor, seeing all the sights, following the escort vessel and finally reaching the open ocean. Even so, AOTD does have a lovely 2D graphic with the correct boat and insignia, and it has its own special appeal. Also with AOTD there is no external view. Sometimes when I play it I miss looking at the convoys and escorts in action, but there is also something terrifying about not being able to see what's going on.

Yes, I still play AOTD and SH3. I only hope that U-Boat has the correct harbors with locks and working gates where appropriate.

[John Pancoast]

I have both versions of Aces Of The Deep, and I agree - for the very best organization and AI there is still nothing like it. Unfortunately I'm a sucker - not for the graphics so much as the visceral appeal. I love sailing out of the harbor, seeing all the sights, following the escort vessel and finally reaching the open ocean. Even so, AOTD does have a lovely 2D graphic with the correct boat and insignia, and it has its own special appeal. Also with AOTD there is no external view. Sometimes when I play it I miss looking at the convoys and escorts in action, but there is also something terrifying about not being able to see what's going on.

Yes, I still play AOTD and SH3. I only hope that U-Boat has the correct harbors with locks and working gates where appropriate.

I agree Steve. The two games compliment each other well.

[Aktungbby]

Carlito48!:Kaleun_Salute: after a 3-year silent run,

[Leoz]

Great thread all.



It is amazing the hold SHIII has on me.

I think of getting involved in other games and then think, well, that will take away time from SHIII.

Have always had an install of GWX and NYGM handy.

Now have a 34" monitor and with normal viewing distance, the stock game resolution is good enough.

(off topic: at Sailor Steve.... grew up on board wargames :up: )

[jscharpf]

:Kaleun_Cheers: to everyone.

I also think that the current generation no longer cares about details of World War 2, (things that take planning/time, such as board games, or simulators). I feel like to them, it is like the civil war.

I think my generation (ish), where our fathers/mothers/uncles were ALL affected by World War 2, as youth we read every thing we could on that war. My father was on a destroyer, my uncle was in the air force, another uncle was a cook on a ship during D-Day.. so as a 10 year old I had stacks of books written about World War 2.

I remember being obsessed with World War 2 as a pre-teen, purchasing many of the Avalon Hill board games (too many to list lol!!).

For me as I grew older, when the 1980s and especially the 1990s came around, and you could SIMULATE some battle or even a campaign. My first experience was with a game called "Knights of the Desert" by SSI. It was a turn based strategy game of Rommel in the desert. I was blown away!!

Then shortly later, in the mid-1990s, I came across "Air Warrior" where you could play against people from around the world, with multiple people in a bomber, and I was in pure heaven!

The games that came out in the 1990s for a World War 2 "historian", .. well to me that was the golden era...

Now, everything is focused on graphics and getting into action quickly. There is one online game that I still play "World War 2 Online", which, in my opinion, is still the best overall WW2 game out there. This game started in 2000, but now, new players complain about the graphics and having to sit around if they are pulling guard duty on some building. The game is losing customers to all of the "quick action" type games.

This is just the way it is. The World War 2 generation has almost completely died off, and I just don't see anyone interested in it anymore (other than a reason to make a bloody shooting game).

Same goes for the sub sim community I'm afraid. Why would anyone float around in a sub for hours when they could be running around with blazing guns?

Sorry for the rant, but I enjoy reading these threads to see how others feel about the same things.

Jeff

[K-61]

Hello all,

An old salt saying "ahoy" again after several years away from the game. A lot of water has flowed under the bridge of my life, including nearly dying and being in a coma for three days, but I pulled through and in spite of all the new games, and hardware on which to play them, I have yet to find a sim or game that has the atmosphere and immersion, no pun intended, that this game does.

The last version of the game I played was Living Silent Hunter, so I am checking into the forum to take a look around and see what new mods and such have been developed. I am also hoping I will be able to get the game to play again on my old ASUS G73J notebook gaming PC, that back in its day was quite the smoker. I have since upgraded the OS from W7 Home 64 bit to W10. I have a lot of catching up and tinkering ahead of me.

Anyhow, just wanted to extend the courtesy of saying hello before I start posting again. And to say, what a pleasure it is to find this game and this community still going strong.

[K-61]

I've had a quick look around the forum and found that the LSH mod has been updated to a 2015 version; the last version I played was the 2010 version and it ran fine on my old ASUS notebook. My notebook has 8 GB of RAM and 1 GB of video RAM, which was a very good setup when it was new.

I see that LSH 2015 is recommending 2 GB of video RAM. Looks like I shall be shopping for a new computer if I wish to run the new version. And I do wish to run the new version. My wife is not going to like hearing this....

If there are any current players of LSH 2015 I would appreciate hearing your comments about game play with this supermod. Do you think it is worth it for me to splash out money for a new, more powerful PC in order to run LSH15?

[John Pancoast]

Can't help answer your LSH questions, but welcome back. Especially after your experiences.

[ThePrody]

8 GB of RAM and 1GB of video RAM should be enough to play any mods and supermod out there . Yes, maybe you will not have 60+ FPS when sailing in and out of the port area but that's like 0,01 % of the total time we spend on a patrol .

Also, welcome back :Kaleun_Salute:

[Anvar1061]

8 GB of RAM and 1GB of video RAM should be enough to play any mods and supermod out there . Yes, maybe you will not have 60+ FPS when sailing in and out of the port area but that's like 0,01 % of the total time we spend on a patrol .

Also, welcome back :Kaleun_Salute:

+1
http://s3.uploads.ru/d/3NeP2.jpg
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/smilies/Kaleun_Salute-1.gif

[K-61]

Thank you for the replies, gentlemen.

Yes, I should think my system meets requirements, and did in the past run LSH 2010, GWX and such very well.

As stated, the harbour experience is such a small part of the game and is thus not that important to me. I was merely flabbergasted to see that LSH 2015 says to have 2 GB of video RAM, not just for port scenes but also for at sea.

As my old notebook is giving me issues again with overheating, I was out today at my shop getting a quote for a new gaming desktop with a larger monitor. I have enjoyed my notebook gaming time, but I believe a proper desktop will not give me overheaying issues. Even with two internal cooling fans the notebook still gets toasty and then unstable. I've had seven years out of it and it will still soldier on for a few more I should think, but my games are pushing it too hard.

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi Randy
Always good to hear from you my friend.
Hopefully there should be a new version of LSH3 out next year which will be the final version from the team.

I do highly recommend SH4 v1.5 Fifi's OM+OMEGU Compilation covering the German campaigns.
Much improved graphics on SH3.
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=240804
Peter

[iggypop37]

Yeah on a similar theme. I've started playing it again in the last week on a simple budget laptop (celeron n4000, 4 gig ram, integrated intel graphics etc)

I was sure I would have problems but sh3 and gwx nice and smooth, 60fps etc.

Yeah yeah I know it lacks some of the eye candy, but still great fun on a cheap machine I bought for primarily for Windows work and web browsing.

For reference originally bought game in 2005 ! Long term sub sim fan right back to Silent service and RSR

[Aktungbby]

K-61!:Kaleun_Salute:

[K-61]

Well, in anticipation of desiring to get back into SH3, for the third time in my life I am buying a new system capable of playing the game with heavy graphics mods.

The first time I custom ordered a desktop and surround sound system. Years later I bought a high end gaming notebook. Now I am buying another high end gaming rig.

My wife hates this game.:haha:

Edit: Sorry, forgot to post the new system specs. In addition to the following, I opted for a 27 inch widescreen monitor. I could have gone larger, but I am not greedy.

New Dell G5 Gaming System
9th Gen Intel® Core™ i7 9700K (8-Core/8-Thread, 12MB Cache, Overclocked up to 4.6GHz on all cores)
Windows 10 Home, 64-bit, English
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1660 Ti 6GB GDDR6
16GB Dual Channel DDR4 at 2666MHz; up to 64GB (additional memory sold separately)
512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD (Boot) + 1TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s (Storage)
460W, Chassis with blue LED Lighting and Clear Side Panel
Qualcomm® DW1810, 1x1, 802.11ac, Bluetooth 4.2
Dell Multimedia Keyboard-KB216 Black (English)
Dell Optical Mouse - MS116 Black
1 Year Parts and Labour Warranty

[Anvar1061]

Chassis with blue LED Lighting and Clear Side Panel

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/smilies/Kaleun_Thumbs_Up-1.gif
This is the most important spare part on the airplane!
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/smilies/Kaleun_Rolf.gif

[K-61]

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/smilies/Kaleun_Thumbs_Up-1.gif
This is the most important spare part on the airplane!
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/smilies/Kaleun_Rolf.gif

I know. I had originally ordered the simple normal chassis, but I have given this guy so much business over the years and sent others to his shop, in appreciation he upgraded the chassis no extra charge. I'm not a ride pimper but hey a free upgrade?

And thanks to all for the welcome back messages. I've missed this game for years. I had a [luckily] non-malignant brain tumour removed and I am still in a level of recovery four years later. For the first couple of years afterward I wasn't interested in books or games or anything mentally challenging. I take it as a positive sign that I feel up to playing SH3 again. I am also thinking of trying my hand again at GWX, after reading a few comments that some think the escort A.I. too soft.

[K-61]

+1
http://s3.uploads.ru/d/3NeP2.jpg
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/smilies/Kaleun_Salute-1.gif

Cool chassis, by the way. That thing is definitely a one of a kind. Kind of looks like the platoon radio I had to hump back in 1980 when I was a reservist rifleman. I forget the model, but it was like the ones you see in the Vietnam movies, with the folding antenna that is usually folded back, with an officer standing next to the radioman using the handpiece. Such lovely sniper targets.

[K-61]

Whilst awaiting arrival of my new desktop, I have decided to install SH3 on my old ASUS G37JH notebook; Intel core i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.6 GHz, 8 GB RAM, 1 GB VRAM, Windows 10 64 bit OS on a 512 GB SSD. Crossing my fingers, this should be good enough to run GWX Gold, the mod I intend to setup and play to get me back into the game for now. I played GWX Gold as my main game until LSH2010 was released. I played LSH for a while, then I had my health challenges, which led to a several-years hiatus from the game.

Over the years I have acquired quite the library of SH3 mods, files, bits and bobs, stored over several hard drives [redundancy]. As of this post, I have installed the game from DVD, an old Starforce disc. Not to worry, I still remembered to remove the disc from my optical drive and patched it to 1.4b. and have not yet run the SH3.exe to start the game. As well, I know my next step is to install the "no-disc crack" which is a small set of files that I will install into the game directory and allow them to overwrite the original files, before I even run the game for the first time. Then hsie, SH3 Cmdr, 4 GB patch, etc. I doubt I'll have the game ready to go by bedtime, but I am not going to be hasty and careless and mess up my game. I used to do a lot of experimentation with mods and was quite good at it and I do remember that one must be very careful not to do things in the wrong order or to make errant changes.

I cannot remember why, but I have two versions of the "no-disc crack" in my archives: The first is a folder titled No Disc Crack and then I have another set in a folder labelled "Privateer Version." I have no memory of why I have two sets, but by examining file properties I can see the SH3.exe files are of different file size. Looks like I have to do some more reading in the forum before I proceed. On the off chance someone might recommend which crack version to use, I will ask this here; however, I shall exercise my due diligence and now proceed to the mods forum and so some digging.

Thanks in advance to any who might reply in the interim.

Edit: I also installed the game in a folder called C:\SH3GWX. It is also my intention to make a copy of this folder once finalized in configuration as a "clean" copy of the game in case of future need to reinstall the game. I believe from what I have read thus far about other setups under W10 that I have to run my SH3.exe and Sh3Cmdr in admin mode, W7 compatibility, correct? Off now to do some research. Thanks.

[Anvar1061]

I have Sh3.exe 1.32 MB and another 2 with a tail. When you install Patch 1.6 (which contains 4 Gb patch) you will see that one of the versions is not compatible. Good luck!

[K-61]

Cheers, Anvar.:salute: