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Conveen
04-21-19, 05:09 AM
Hey everyone, I change it in the cfg to 3840x1080 but in the game the pic is freeze, not the game. But I can use the binoculars and look around. Outside view F2 dont work also. Any idea? :hmmm:
THEBERBSTER
04-21-19, 05:34 AM
HI C
You will have a problem with any SH version as 3840x1080 is not a standard recognized resolution.
Peter
Conveen
04-21-19, 12:02 PM
I know but it can be fix it. Dont know why. First I know to know how I can change the FOV.
XenonSurf
04-21-19, 12:58 PM
In TWoS there are different 'ratio fixes' you can additionally load as optional mod. Try out the different ones, maybe one will fix your situation. As default, TWoS runs in 16:9 ratio. And additionally try:
Go in your grafic card setup (NVidia Control Panel for Nvidia cards), and set the scaling to Fullscreen (or Fullscreen with GPU), this could work for you.
Except your native resolution (which you mention) your monitor and GPU should also support other resolutions. In this case you must first switch your desktop to that resolution before applying the ratio fixes in TWoS (and the GPU scaling settings above).
Another alternative is: Try Windowed mode with D3DWindower or DXWind.
Conveen
04-22-19, 03:16 AM
https://i.ibb.co/wgzS6xc/sh5.jpg (https://ibb.co/H4Htgkh)
https://i.ibb.co/q0dQv3c/sh51.jpg (https://ibb.co/bHP9kMC)
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On this screen I cant move the view with the mouse.
https://i.ibb.co/ysD0HqD/sh52.jpg (https://ibb.co/h8ks3Vk)
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https://i.ibb.co/ZfDztTr/sh53.jpg (https://ibb.co/kGC2kcT)
https://i.ibb.co/16KfnFZ/sh54.jpg (https://ibb.co/yS5nRH0)
When I use Fullscreen on NV control panel it just stretch the pic, here it will be nice set the FOV a bit lower to compensate that you know. Dont know how change FOV.
THEBERBSTER
04-22-19, 05:01 AM
Hi C
The pictures you are showing is because 3840 resolution is the same as having 2 1920 monitors.
You may need to look at your display options.
This has its own problems as it makes text in the game more difficult to see.
How is your monitor connected, HDMI, DVI or a combination of both?
I cannot see how you are going to overcome this problem.
This is an option:
Override High DPI Scaling Behavior > Pictorial (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2515223&postcount=412)
Peter
XenonSurf
04-22-19, 08:22 AM
Try to plug a DVI or SUB cable instead of HDMI cable from monitor/GPU. That may be the reason.
Also if you monitor is the latest in technology, I would switch-off 4K and HDR, the game is far from supporting this tech (game is from 2009).
I have a DVI-D cable plugged with my GTX 960 4GB VRAM.
XenonSurf
04-22-19, 10:14 AM
And ... important: your 1st screenshot tells me that you have not installed TWoS (this bunker picture should not show-up). The stock game 1.2 is NOT playable, install TWoS. Do that and come back here...
Conveen
04-24-19, 06:29 AM
So I test all. TWos. DVI, HDMI and both. DPI scaling. HDR on/off. Nothing help.
To clear that up: Outside view camera works, binoculars works.
When I start the game the screen is black. Than I switch to the binoculars and I can look around. I switch back without binoculars and it looks like on pic 3. Mouse works but I cant look around, the screen frizzing. Game still work. Also I cant click on crew members.
Dont know what I can do more. I think I have to live with that :) anyway thanks for help guys... :)
XenonSurf
04-24-19, 10:16 AM
You are not playing on a laptop, do you? Because then, there could be problems with the system recognizing your main grafic card. With Win10 you would need to launch the game by right-clicking and chosing the right GPU which is: your main dedicated one.
If you are not using a laptop, right-click on your Win desktop > Monitor Resolution.
In the picture above ONLY 1 monitor should be listed with a big number 1. You would need to disable any number 2 or 3 etc.
Same in your GPU settings (NVidia Conrol Panel, AMD Command Center), only 1 and the right monitor should be set.
Does your monitor come with special DRIVERS? They need installation in this case. Refer to your manual.
If not for multiple monitors I cannot explain your screenshots, I have seen grafic distortions because of bad setup, but not yours which are far different and must have to do with the game or your system not being correctly set for your monitor. To test this, change monitor if you can.
In your SH5 savegame folder, located in [DOCUMENTS]\SH5\data\Cfg there is a file main.cfg. You should see this inside:
[VIDEO]
AntialiasingLevel=0; 0=none, 1=non-maskable, 2=2x, 4=4x, ...
;Resolution=1024,768,60,22; commented so, at first, it starts with the desktop resolution (on release version)
FullScreen=Yes
;Synchronized=Yes
Synchronized=No
Resolution=1920,1080,60,22
If you are using a single monitor only which supports this resolution (even if your native res. is different), then you should not experience your grafic glitches. Try to change the last line to one which your monitor supports, but still in 16:9 ratio.
Also try the setting
FullScreen=No
You would play in Window mode if it works.
And lastely, I come back to my suggestion above: Try the external programs D3DWindower, or DXWind to play SH5 in a window with your chosen resolution size. These programs are expressly made for such games or apps that cannot be switched to windowed mode in their options. With one of these programs, you would chose a resolution that almost fills your entire screen, but a 16:9 ratio which the game does support.
Would interest me as well, I get the same issues as Conveen (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=257304),
everything works fine except when trying to walk around, any view that is from the Captains View just freezes the screen but the game continues as normal.
It seems to only happen when running aspect ratios that the game does not offer by default, for instance, 3440 x 1440 (43∶18) works perfectly.
@XenonSurf (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=239575)
I also tried your recommendation of trying D3DWindower or DXWind and running it windowed, unfortunately the problem still remains, was worth a shot though.
I'd really love to know if this can be solved as, it almost works, and it looks really amazing otherwise.
Edit:
I also found more information on this site:
https://www.wsgf.org/dr/silent-hunter-5-battle-atlantic
Not sure if the 3ditor can help, any takes on it?
Aktungbby
10-24-20, 10:59 PM
Xall!:Kaleun_Salute:
Xall!:Kaleun_Salute:
Thank you Aktungbby, its certainly been a while, unfortunately I cannot seem to get the game running on 5120 x 1440 :S
rfxcasey
11-13-20, 01:19 PM
There is a way, but it's a bit complicated. I'm trying to get it working right now using a program called Cheat Engine. I have successfully used this program in the past to get Metal Gear V running in ultrawide. There is someone working on this but I don't think their native language is English so the translation is a bit hard to follow. I'll point you to the thread, the more people attempting this the better.
The process is a bit complicated however, you have to use Cheat Engine to actively intercept the games memory addresses and change the data for the specific parameter on the fly from what I understand. I'm no programmer, I know just enough to get myself in trouble. Still, these guys seem to have gotten it to work in SH5.
On a side note, just from experience with Metal Gear, once you get it working the clicking for the buttons might be off a little bit or the filter overlays for the graphics might not extend all way to the left and right edges of the screen, in other words, the might be in a different aspect ratio then what you're trying to run. I don't think this will be a problem in SH5 because my resolution, 2560x1080 actually shows up in the graphics settings, though I think it's kind of crappy that while the game recognizes my systems current resolution it doesn't allow for FOV adjustment, which would have been super easy for the devs to include. The one problem we might encounter is the buttons being off graphically from where you actually have to click them. Both of the aforementioned problems were present in Metal Gear V but, if I remember correctly, Metal Gear V did not recognize the systems current resolution or support running in an ultrawide resolution, so that's probably why it exhibited the problems mentioned above. SH5 might not have those issues, but if it does there are fixes, though once again, a bit complicated.
Sorry to be long winded, I really want to get this working on my system. Here's a link to the discussion I mentioned. Use Google Translate if you need to.
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2706517#post2706517
rfxcasey
11-13-20, 03:37 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I GOT IT WORKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Though it's not working in automated script for me yet but I'll get that sorted, for now I have to do it manually. BUT IT WORKS! You need to download a program called Cheat Engine and then follow this procedure.
This is copied from the other thread I'll link to.
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2706856#post2706856
"Well, good news and bad news. Overall good news though, I got the FOV working but not through the script. I started Silent Hunter 5 and loaded my save game so I'm standing on the bridge of the sub. Then I alt tab out of the game and I loaded Cheat Engine with no script. I clicked on 'select process to open', found SH5.exe, selected it and then clicked open. Next under the scan settings on the right I set the 'value type' to 'Array of byte'. Then under 'value' I ticked the 'Hex' checkbox and pasted in under 'value' '5C420000AA420000003F0000C03F00'. Next I clicked 'New Scan' and 2 results came up on the left, address '30034C3E' and address '3048BCB6' both of which had values of '5C420000AA420000003F0000C03F00'. So I right clicked on them, one at a time, and changed the first 2 bytes of both to '40 43' from their original value of '5C 42'."
Alt tabbed back into the game and like magic, the FOV is perfect, no stretching at all and all the button clicks line up with the buttons. It's BEAUTIFUL! Ah, I'm so happy I could kiss you guys.
Something that might be of interest to the guys having the black screen problem. I noticed when I was playing with those 2 values located at those memory addresses, if I went too high or too low on the numbers the screen would go black. It appears that if FOV is set beyond a certain range it causes the screen to go black. I'm not 100 percent sure what the first and second numbers do exactly, the first number appears to be the FOV but the second seem like a zoom level or possibly....... aspect ratio??? I can't say 100 percent, maybe the guy from the other thread knows.
Only remaining issue is why the script isn't working. I'm no programmer so I'll need some help probably. I don't understand the code enough to know how to fix it. I can play now with the proper FOV but a automating everything, the script launching and the game starting, under one icon would be really great.:subsim:
EDIT: I think once you make the changes in Cheat Engine you can have Cheat Engine generate a 'Trainer' file that you would then just double click on to start Cheat Engine with the setting that worked. This is very off the cuff right now, I don't have a lot of experience with Cheat Engine and I'm just making these posts as I go. I'm looking for the option now.
P.S. Depending on what resolution ultrawide you're running those first two values of those addresses are going to be different, the default actual FOV of the game is 55 Float according to this guy from the other post, so you have to figure out what FOV you want, like mine is actually 48 degrees now down from 55 degrees (it's a float value in the program) so you have to do some number conversion, from float to hex I guess and that will give you the proper numbers to change the address values to. Once I get mine working in script form I'll post, then as we come up with scripts for everyone's resolutions we can just post them all so the next guy won't have to deal with all this.
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2706856#post2706856
rfxcasey
11-13-20, 04:09 PM
ALMOST FORGOT...........SCREENSHOTS!:k_confused:
Original FOV on 2560x1080
https://i.ibb.co/JvS3fSL/Source-Ge-Force-SHARE-B64-ey-JEUl-NBc-HBOYW1l-Ii-A6-ICIi-LCAi-RFJTUHJv-Zmls-ZU5hb-WUi-IDog-Ii-Is-ICJ.jpg
NEW MO BETTER FOV!!!!
https://i.ibb.co/DGg7jp6/Source-Ge-Force-SHARE-B64-ey-JEUl-NBc-HBOYW1l-Ii-A6-ICIi-LCAi-RFJTUHJv-Zmls-ZU5hb-WUi-IDog-Ii-Is-ICJ.jpg
rfxcasey
Excellent stuff!
I actually managed to get it work now as well with a Resolution of 5120x1440
What I did is...
1. Get Cheat Engine
2. Open Silent Hunter 5 with Cheat Engine
3. Press "Memory View"
4. In the Memory Viewer Window Click Search & then "Find Memory"
5. Search For: 5C420000AA420000003F0000C03F00 & Tick (Array of) byte ON
6. Right Click on the First Value Top Left, by me it was 5C
7. After Right Clicking, Click "Add this address to the list"
8. Confirm the Pop Up Menu
9. Go Back to Cheat Engine, and Right Click the newly Added Address seen below & Click "Browse this memory region"
10. Repeat Step 5.
11. Now Right Click and "Add this address to the list" on the first two Values.
12. Go back to Cheat Engine and Edit the Values in the last two added memories.
For me the first one I set to 85
The Second one to 95.
FOV and Zoom seems fine but new problems arise, not game breaking though.
Would be good to know why the Map turns so dark.
rfxcasey
11-19-20, 04:55 AM
As for the map turning dark, I cannot say, but, I have a working script now from the nice gentlemen in another thread that basically makes it a one click operation. I'll post it if you want it. I'll even modify it for your resolution for you. It's working great for me and the game looks great in ultra wide.
I noticed yours look bit zoomed out while mine is more zoomed in. I had to do that to get rid of the edge distortion but I like it cause it makes the sub feel more, confined and well, sub like. That said, man those screenshots look great, how'd you get them to post like that, mine are crap in comparison. And the map thing, hum, are you running any mods in JSGME like the aspect ratio 'fix' or anything like that? I think I read somewhere that someone had a similar issue, might want to do a deep dive for it. Also, take note, if you haven't already figured out, those memory addresses will change with every new load of the game or save file. You either need to search for the array value each time manually or create an automated search in Cheat Engine. The script this guy made will do that, I tried to make my own, but I'm no Cheat Engine pro so you know how that goes. No use in reinventing the wheel anyways when I have a working script. Still, I'd like to learn how it was generated.
Certainly rfxcasey, I'd really appreciate that.
The way I did mine so that its not so zoomed in is that I just messed around with it until I found a FOV that I liked,
I just went over it again not long ago and your solution was more elegant than what I posted just a moment ago, less steps involved.
https://www.binaryhexconverter.com/decimal-to-hex-converter
Using this site I just type in the Decimals and convert it to Hex.
As you suspected the second Value seems to be the Zoom, while the First is the FOV.
Oh and the screenshots, as I am a hobby Artist, I made screenshots using Steam and modified the image size and quality to get the file size acceptable for Subsim using Photoshop and then posted it like that.
I might have a look at the mod list, although it be really impossible to tell really as I play with the Wolves of Steel Mega Mod and that really has allot of mods in there... So not sure how or what I can do about it, probably have a view at the documentations.
I'll just post this what I written as a personal reminder here with your method so that it may help others as well in the future perhaps.
Run Silent Hunter
Open Silent Hunter 5 (With Cheat Engine)
Change Value Type to: Array Of Byte
Search for
5C420000AA420000003F0000C03F00
Right Click Results and:
Add Selected Addresses to the Address List
Original Values:
5C 42 00 00 AA 42 00 00 00 3F 00 00 C0 3F 00
Edit Value:
5C 42 (First Value is FOV Second Maybe Zoom)
Edited Example:
55 5F 00 00 AA 42 00 00 00 3F 00 00 C0 3F 00
Decimal to Hex Converter:
https://www.binaryhexconverter.com/decimal-to-hex-converter
rfxcasey
11-19-20, 05:22 AM
I updated my last post, don't know if you read it before the changes so go back and see. Also, one more thing. I know you like subs, you might like space ships too. Just a heads up, sorry if this is taboo on the forum but, Elite Dangerous is FREE on Epic Games until Nov 26th. It's a pretty epic space sim with randomly generated star systems. Grab your free copy if you want.
I shall have a look into it, I am also a rookie with Cheat Engine, I do not even know how to load a script for that matter :S
I am guessing the Script you are referring to is in the other thread?
And thanks for the heads up on the Free Game.
rfxcasey
11-19-20, 05:48 AM
Here is the script modified for you. If you want you can edit the script by opening it with Notepad ++ or maybe Notepad. The only thing you have to do if you want to change those 2 values is change them in the 3 locations where it says 'db 55 5F' in the script and nothing else. Then save and it should then work with whatever new value you're trying out. As is, it should work right out of the box so to speak, I've already made the changes for you. Just download the .zip file, unzip it to wherever you want, I suggest your SH5 directory. You can make a shortcut to the desktop or your games folder. You want to use the 'SH5_FOV_Fix.CT' file, this will open Cheat Engine and start the script. If you get a message about unsigned scripts just click to run every time and it won't bother you anymore. Also, very important, you need to be using Cheat Engine version 7.1 or newer, I think back as far as 6.8 will work. I'm using version 7.0 and it works fine. So the procedure would be as follows.
1. Start SH5
2. Once in game 'alt tab' out and double click SH5_FOV_Fix.CT
3. Once Cheat Engine is running you should see 3 boxes at the bottom FOV1, FOV2 and FOV3, you don't have to do anything with them just verify they are there.
4. Alt tab back into SH5
5. The Numpad 'asterisk key' and '9 key' will start and stop the script, so hit the asterisk key once and wait a second for the script to work, you're view should change after a moment.
Here is the link to the script for download hosted on Mediafire. Let me know if you have any issues and happy hunting.:Kaleun_Cheers:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/v9h3j9fqxs0ql3r/SH5_FOV_Fix.zip/file
Awesome rfxcasey, thank you so much for being so kind and helpful, I will give it a go there right now and report back how it goes.
rfxcasey
11-19-20, 05:57 AM
Just doing my duty Captain.:salute:
rfxcasey
11-19-20, 05:59 AM
And don't forget to grab that copy of Elite Dangerous from Epic Games if you want, it's free till Nov 26, get it while it's hot. Actually, it's not free yet, you might have to wait a couple of hours but don't forget, it's supposed to be pretty nice.
Hmm Unfortunately it does not really want to work as intended.
So I got the newest Cheat Engine version 7.1,
Placed the SH5_FOV_Fix.ct in the Root Directory for convenience as you suggested, started SH5, loaded my save, tabbed out, made sure no other cheat engine was running, then ran the script. That prompt greeted me and I selected to not show itself again.
When it loads, it seems either stuck, or something, I do see the 3 FOV's, I also see the Hotkey menu, but there are no hot keys assigned or at least this is how it looks:
The Open menu is glowing as well not sure if one has to select the game afterwards manually, but looking at it in notepad++ I can see that it should do the getAutoAttachlist for "SH5.exe"
I do not know if it makes a difference but I do have the Steam Version of the game, I checked task manager and it does show up as sh5.exe though, so it should be fine.
Edit: If I load SH5 Manually, using the SH5_FOV_Fix.ct, it seems to be loading forever.
Some other news:
I checked the documentation of The Wolves of Steel Mega Mod, and sure enough I found IO_StrategicMap_7_5_0_for_TDWv750
This is probably what is causing the Map to go Black, so I will try to remove that and give and see if it makes a difference.
rfxcasey
11-19-20, 07:09 AM
Hmm Unfortunately it does not really want to work as intended.
So I got the newest Cheat Engine version 7.1,
Placed the SH5_FOV_Fix.ct in the Root Directory for convenience as you suggested, started SH5, loaded my save, tabbed out, made sure no other cheat engine was running, then ran the script. That prompt greeted me and I selected to not show itself again.
When it loads, it seems either stuck, or something, I do see the 3 FOV's, I also see the Hotkey menu, but there are no hot keys assigned or at least this is how it looks:
The Open menu is glowing as well not sure if one has to select the game afterwards manually, but looking at it in notepad++ I can see that it should do the getAutoAttachlist for "SH5.exe"
I do not know if it makes a difference but I do have the Steam Version of the game, I checked task manager and it does show up as sh5.exe though, so it should be fine.
Edit: If I load SH5 Manually, using the SH5_FOV_Fix.ct, it seems to be loading forever.
Make sure SH5 is running and you are in game before you alt tab out and open the SH5_FOV_Fix.CT file. The flashing attach to process button, don't worry about that, don't touch it, as long as the bar at the top says 'sh5.exe' with some numbers in front of it, that's good to go. Don't worry about the hotkey dialog box just move it off to the side, but don't close it either cause it will close Cheat Engine and it won't work. Click on the open Cheat Engine screen to make sure it's focused. In that screenshot you posted, you've got the 3 FOV boxes at the bottom. Hit the NUMPAD (the regular asterisk key won't work) asterisk key and you should see the boxes turn into circles with rotating scans in them. After a moment (takes about 5 seconds), one or more will lock in and change to an 'X'. Alt tab back into the game. If you don't see your FOV fixed, hit the NUMPAD (very important) asterisk key, wait a moment, if nothing, hit the NUMPAD 9 key, then hit the NUMPAS asterisk key again, your FOV should change.
It's very important you don't close Cheat Engine before going back into SH5 cause it won't work if you do close it.
If still no go, open and edit the script file and find where is says Cheat Engine 7.0 and change it to 7.1, I don't think that's an issue but worth a shot if you're still having problems. Let me know and we'll get it sorted. I had an issue when I was running it on 7.2, it wouldn't work at all. I haven't tested in 7.1 but it was created in that version so it should be OK. If still no go, uninstall version Cheat Engine 7.1 and install Cheat Engine 7.0.
Let me know, we'll get it sorted. Just tested on mine and it works, but my screen goes black cause it's way outside of my resolution.
rfxcasey
11-19-20, 07:20 AM
That dialog box you select to 'not show again', you chose to always run unsigned scripts right? it looks ok cause in that screenshot I see the 3 FOV boxes in the lower left of the main Cheat Engine screen so it should be good. Hit the NUMPAD asterisk Key and see if the boxes change to spinny things. They should lock in after a moment. One or two boxes will change to and X and the others go blank. That means the script found the date and performed the operation on it. Don't forget to read my previous post.
rfxcasey
11-19-20, 07:26 AM
Also take note, it can take around 5 seconds for the script scan to finish and the FOV to change after you hit the NUMPAD asterisk key, so press it and be patient.
rfxcasey
11-19-20, 07:30 AM
Don't forget to read all my previous posts, I posted like 5 of them. Yeah, I know, I have issues. And I'm running The Wolves of Steel as well so no worries, it doesn't effect the FOV fix.
rfxcasey
Got it working :)
Getting Cheat Engine 7.0 did the trick.
Now all that is in the way is the Black Map, renders tools pretty useless in its current form.
Its definitely the mod.
Now the issue is that The Wolves of Steel Mega Mod is a large combination of Mods, and the more recent WOS comes with an installer not using JSGME.
Last thing I want is to meddle with it, as its been a pain to set everything up, but if I could get the original map files and overwrite the modded maps, perhaps it would work.
Don't forget to read all my previous posts, I posted like 5 of them. Yeah, I know, I have issues. And I'm running The Wolves of Steel as well so no worries, it doesn't effect the FOV fix.
Its not effecting it?
Huh good to know, I'll deactivate everything else then and see if it makes a difference, I have some minor additional mods, maybe real navigation?
I'll report back after running the game just with TOS and nothing else.
Edit: Unfortunately the Black Map Still Remains.
My guess is that its probably IO_StrategicMap_7_5_0_for_TDWv750, I'll have to mess around with it.
Edit 2: The Map Turns Black with or without using the FOV Fix. It changes to Black when I tab out. I have an Idea though, I can tab out in the main menu and run the Script, then tab back in load the game and then activate the script with the hotkey. I'll report if this works.
Edit 3: It works this way, just means you cannot tab out but everything else works fine.
Its the Yellows on the map, where earth and land is that gets bugged out.
rfxcasey
11-19-20, 11:44 AM
Its not effecting it?
Huh good to know, I'll deactivate everything else then and see if it makes a difference, I have some minor additional mods, maybe real navigation?
I'll report back after running the game just with TOS and nothing else.
Edit: Unfortunately the Black Map Still Remains.
My guess is that its probably IO_StrategicMap_7_5_0_for_TDWv750, I'll have to mess around with it.
Edit 2: The Map Turns Black with or without using the FOV Fix. It changes to Black when I tab out. I have an Idea though, I can tab out in the main menu and run the Script, then tab back in load the game and then activate the script with the hotkey. I'll report if this works.
Edit 3: It works this way, just means you cannot tab out but everything else works fine.
Its the Yellows on the map, where earth and land is that gets bugged out.
Yeah, no, whatever works for you, I just suggested tabbing out 'in game' to get you going as pain free as possible. Yeah, I've done it myself at various stages of the menus, while loading, all over the place, it really doesn't make a difference as long as the sh5.exe is running before the CT script tries to attach to the process. The same guy who gave me the script also gave me an Autohotkey script that would load sh5 and then a delayed start of the FOV script. Not sure why he made it in Autohotkey (another program that would have to be installed) it seems like you could do it with just a batch file but I think it's actually because of the 'sleep' command you can utilize to delay an action. I'm not sure that batch files can do that, I'd have to look it up. Point being, it's possible to automate the startup of the programs so you can have just one Silent Hunter Icon/Shortcut/whatever that does it all for you, no tabbing out or anything.
Well, awesome, so glad you got that working. Yeah, the map, not tabbing is a workaround, and that's fine, but it'd be nice to know what's really causing it. I don't have the issue, I'm running just TWOS and the FOV fix. Could be a mod, could be an option you selected during the TWOS install, could be a option you have selected in the game itself. I don't use 'real navigation' or some of the more really hardcore stuff. I play on about 68 percent realism. I do use manual TDC targeting, I just like having map updates and the like, stuff that makes life easier, time savers.
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