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The Navy Will No Longer Restrict Sailors To The Brig On Bread And Water JEEZE!! I DIDN'T KNOW THIS PUNISHMENT STILL EXISTED! According to the Department of the Navy Corrections Manual, "Confinement on Bread and Water (B&W)... may be imposed as punishment upon personnel in pay grade E-3 or below, attached to or embarked in a vessel."
Article 15 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice outlines the punishment further (https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2017-12/understand-bread-water-punishment):
• It may not be implemented for more than three consecutive days.
• Rations furnished a person undergoing such confinement shall consist solely of bread and water. The rations will be served three times daily at the normal time of meals, and the amount of bread and water shall not be restricted.
• The medical officer must pre-certify in writing that a deterioration of the prisoner's health is not anticipated as a result of such action.
• Prisoners serving this punishment will be confined in a cell and will be bound by the procedures set forth for disciplinary segregation cells. They will not be removed for work or physical exercise.
While the Bread and Water punishment sucks and does seem rather archaic (https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2017/07/13/will-trump-end-bread-and-water/), it's hardly the worst punishment that can be handed to a sailor at Captain's Mast — especially for an E-3 or below. Needless to say, although the punishment sucks, some commanders used (https://www.wearethemighty.com/military-life/how-us-sailors-can-be-confined-in-the-brig-with-just-bread-and-water) it on rare occasions as a way of correcting sailors’ bad behavior while saving them from losing stripes or forfeiting pay. Others, however, such as Capt. Adam Aycock of the USS Shiloh (https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2017/10/09/uss-bread-and-water-punishment-loomed-over-a-demoralized-crew/) https://www.armytimes.com/resizer/8Xd3wq4-1Zu8NfL9oDSzynIuWzE=/1200x0/filters:quality(100)/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-mco.s3.amazonaws.com/public/YA2QNYQ3W5AC3BHCV3GCDAQEWI.jpgearned his ship the nickname of USS Bread and Water due to his doling out the punishment at least six times over his command, Navy Times reported. [/QUOTE

I have personally been confined to the brig of USS Enterprise on three days’ bread and water.
It’s not exactly all you can eat. It’s served to you three times a day - a brig guard comes to your cell and asks how many slices of bread you want, and how many of the small cups of water. About a half hour later he arrives with the requested food. You’d better eat it all.
The first time it’s almost funny. The second time, it’s like “Hm. Bread.” The third meal, you’re bummed as f*ck. After that, you get creative - you make bread sandwiches and bread tacos and breadrolls and everything you can think of to make it not-bread. Eventually you kinda get off bread, and eat less of it.
But it really does mean bread. And water. And that’s it. I wasn’t left to go hungry - at no time during my sentence did I feel the slightest hunger pang. But what a way to reinforce that yes, you are being punished. If you’re in a jail cell at sea on bread and water, you messed up royally and there is no justification or explanation around it.
I deserved it. It was probably rock-bottom for me. I was released from the brig during mid-rations, just after midnight, and that first meal of leftover beef noodles was probably the finest meal I’ve ever eaten - better than any steak-and-crab-legs I’ve had since.MY OWN BROTHER WHO ONCE SPENT TEN DAYS IN THE BRIG FOR 'DISRESPECT TO A SENIOR OFFICER' CONSULTED WITH ME ON THIS POST...:arrgh!: https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2017/10/09/uss-bread-and-water-punishment-loomed-over-a-demoralized-crew/ (https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2017/10/09/uss-bread-and-water-punishment-loomed-over-a-demoralized-crew/)

[Mr Quatro]

Jog's old memories of a sea story my father told me (he wouldn't lie to a son now would he).

He was on a heavy cruiser the USS Helena with a brig run by US Marines.
They brought a prisoner on bread and water up topside to exercise on the main deck while they were at sea.
The prisoner jumped overboard and was never seen nor heard from again.

Plus I heard that you can't be a real sailor until you've been around the horn :o

I've never been around the horn :yep:

[Bleiente]

The US falls back in time to the Middle Ages.
I'm just waiting for this complete idiot and total failure to send Trump slave ships to the western shores of Europe and Africa. :03:

[August]

Confinement on bread and water for three days seems like a fair deal compared to loosing a months pay and/or a stripe.

[ET2SN]

I knew a guy in "A" school who set a land speed record on getting busted. :up:

We were in the pilot class when the Navy re-started a dedicated submarine ET "A" school in Groton. It was tricky and it was a tough school. In many cases the syllabus needed some fine tuning, in some cases the syllabus just didn't exist yet, and for the most part it was up to us to survive.

So, 12 of us hung on to graduate. We had become known as the Dirty Dozen by then :D . So, the magic Friday arrives marking Graduation Day. We show up that morning in our dress blues only to be told that we were out of uniform and needed to get our ET3 "crows" added to all of our uniforms ASAP. :D
A small fight broke out while they were getting us lined up for our group portrait, but that was nothing new by now. :D
So, with the picture taken we were set free as newly-minted third class Petty Officers. :yeah:

Some of us had some free time to go on Leave before we started our "C" schools. Some of us (me included) would be starting "C" school the next Monday. But ALL of us had the weekend off. And that was all that mattered.

:D

By Sunday, I heard about one of my class mates being escorted back to the base as a guest of the New London PD.

Oops.

We all painted the town red on Friday night unless we had a plane to catch. Some us painted the town in multiple coats. :arrgh!:
And, one of us got caught. :o

By Monday, that One Of Us was told he was out of uniform again and got demoted back to E-2 from E-4. A rank he had officially held for almost one day.

:yeah:

[Jimbuna]

Plus I heard that you can't be a real sailor until you've been around the horn :o

I've never been around the horn :yep:

My first experience of that was back in 77 and I consider myself quite fortunate that despite the fact a male shaved my head it was indeed one of my fellow officers wives who performed an identical duty further down below :)

[Cybermat47]

Confinement on bread and water for three days seems like a fair deal compared to loosing a months pay and/or a stripe.

Agreed. Plus, I basically only ate bread and water growing up (by choice - asperger’s does weird things lol) and I was an introvert, so it doesn’t sound like much of a punishment to me :Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

[Commander Wallace]

Confinement on bread and water for three days seems like a fair deal compared to loosing a months pay and/or a stripe.


Maybe a more suitable punishment would be what you suggested in addition to being made to listen to rap music on a constant basis for a week.

That might qualify as cruel and unusual punishment by the General Assembly of the United Nations though. :D

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...it was indeed one of my fellow officers wives who performed an identical duty further down below :) MAY YOUR NAUTY LINGUISTICS ALWAYS BORDER ON SEMANTICS!:Kaleun_Salute::O: :arrgh!:

[Jimbuna]

MAY YOUR NAUTY LINGUISTICS ALWAYS BORDER ON SEMANTICS!:Kaleun_Salute::O: :arrgh!:

Actually it wasn't that far down, just my chest hair. I shoulda guessed someone would activate their potty mind :haha:

[Mr Quatro]

Actually it wasn't that far down, just my chest hair. I shoulda guessed someone would activate their potty mind :haha:

That was me, but I didn't want to say anything :oops:

[Platapus]

As a kid I remember eating jam sandwiches. Take two pieces of bread and jam them together. It was not punishment, it was just what you ate when you were poor.