View Full Version : FCC will ‘take action’ in 2019 if carriers aren’t doing enough to fight robocalls
Onkel Neal
11-06-18, 06:19 PM
Actually, the number of spam calls to my personal cell have dropped to zero the last month or so... pretty nice.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/5/18066436/robocalls-fcc-take-action-against-carriers-call-authentication
Ajit Pai and the FCC’s commissioners are growing as incensed and fed up with robocalls as the rest of us. Today, Pai sent a letter to over a dozen US mobile providers urging them to deploy an industry-wide method of combatting the automated nuisance calls — or else. “By this time next year, I expect that consumers will begin to see this on their phones,” Pai said in a press release.
“Carriers need to continue working together to make this happen and I am calling on those falling behind to catch up.” He added that “if it does not appear that this system is on track to get up and running next year, then we will take action to make sure that it does.”
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Sailor Steve
11-06-18, 07:03 PM
I've been getting a few lately. Sometimes I wait until the beep and say something rude, but mostly if I don't recognize the number I don't even answer them.
The ones I laugh at the most are the ones that start with "Don't hang up!"
Jimbuna
11-07-18, 06:25 AM
Currently get far too many not only on the mobile but also the house phone.
The mobile call numbers are easily blocked but the house phone blocked numbers is at capacity.
Aktungbby
11-07-18, 12:34 PM
thank god! they are highly annoying usually at inconvenient times and the one warning me of my pending arrest by the IRS for tax evasion is my favorite; generally in a third-world accent. https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/04/11/473847620/a-real-life-tax-scam-this-is-what-irs-phone-fraud-sounds-like (https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/04/11/473847620/a-real-life-tax-scam-this-is-what-irs-phone-fraud-sounds-like) I always respond in my Indian accent: sound terrified; and offer to bring cash to any place they designate...http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/guns/monkey-shooting-a-gun-smiley-emoticon.gif (http://www.sherv.net/monkey.shooting.gun-emoticon-3919.html)to put an end to the 'monkey business' as I, a poor immigrant, do not have a checking account....and they always hang up.:ping::ping::ping: Verizon with whom I been for 33 years says they can do nothing:damn: and then they try to sell me a $1000 'smart phone'.....http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/guns/smiley-killing-himself.gif (http://www.sherv.net/killing.self-emoticon-493.html) to replace my beloved 20+ year old flip phone.
Currently get far too many not only on the mobile but also the house phone.
The mobile call numbers are easily blocked but the house phone blocked numbers is at capacity.
BT call blocker works for me 99% of the time, nothing is 100% and for those most determine scam dogs who try it on if there is a number hit the block button. If withheld the call blocker informs me putting me on alert.
If you are not with BT jim True Call is the next best thing and stops 99% of these scum dogs. Don't bother with TPS it works for a while then the scum return.
https://www.truecall.co.uk/default.asp
Classic old gem...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIVfrBFc5og
Platapus
11-07-18, 03:52 PM
These days, with caller ID, if I don't recognize the number, I don't pick up. If they don't leave a message, it probably was not that important in the first place.
A telephone ringing is a request, not an order. :up:
Skybird
11-07-18, 04:00 PM
Whitelisting is the best option, I use it for my cable phone (Telekom). Every number is blacklisted (blocked). Nobody gets through who has not been whitelisted (cleared) before. The area code of my hometown and the directly neighbourign districts, the three cellphone network codes we have over here, and a very small number of direct numbers (family, close friends) can reahc me. Nobody else whose landline phone is more than 40 km away. Callcentres have no chance - there are none inside the defined area, and the all operate via landline. However, craftsmen for example usually come from the town I live in, or from the near vicinty of it. They can reach me, so can just any cellphone user.
If need arises, I individually clear a single number from further away.
These days, with caller ID, if I don't recognize the number, I don't pick up. If they don't leave a message, it probably was not that important in the first place.
A telephone ringing is a request, not an order. :up:
:hmmm:...
My father gets phone calls from withheld numbers and they leave no messages. These calls are clinics on Hospital grounds usually only ringing about appointments have been changed or checking up. We know they withhold their numbers when he has been able to reach the phone has checked afterwards it was withheld, most cases they ring off far to soon. They then have the cheek to send half a dozens same letters saying we tried to call you but no answer!
Skybird
11-07-18, 04:28 PM
^Trade the cellphone for something different then.
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Only three people have my cellphone number. Now you know why. The others did not survive.
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Landline Sky, they don't ring his cellphone or as way say Mobile. :03: :yep:
MK2 stun gun please so I can use the kill setting. :)
Jimbuna
11-08-18, 07:18 AM
BT call blocker works for me 99% of the time, nothing is 100% and for those most determine scam dogs who try it on if there is a number hit the block button. If withheld the call blocker informs me putting me on alert.
If you are not with BT jim True Call is the next best thing and stops 99% of these scum dogs. Don't bother with TPS it works for a while then the scum return.
https://www.truecall.co.uk/default.asp
£95 :o
I'm a simple poor pensioner.
Jimbuna
11-08-18, 07:19 AM
These days, with caller ID, if I don't recognize the number, I don't pick up. If they don't leave a message, it probably was not that important in the first place.
A telephone ringing is a request, not an order. :up:
True that :yep:
£95 :o
I'm a simple poor pensioner.
Coming from the Mexican bandit. :o :03:
Yes it costs a lot but it works, I bought my one a few years ago before BT woke up to this problem. I was getting over ten calls a day from call centres scammers and can we wash your windows fix your roof etc etc. Bought True Call and they all went away. :03:
Best thing I ever bought. :)
Jimbuna
11-08-18, 07:37 AM
High praise indeed.
High praise indeed.
Trust me jim I have bought crap in my time and still doing it now! :damn:
This is one product that was easy to set up and do what it states it would do. No I am not a sales person..:haha:
It's just one of those few things I took the gamble on and it paid off. :)
Getting back on topic its taken years for phone companies like BT to wake up and smell the coffee. BT is now getting to grips with this just hope all the rest are as well.
The days of..."Hello you have a virus on your PC"...are coming to an end. The dumb scammer days are over and the clever scammers move in and they sound convincing! :o
Jimbuna
11-08-18, 07:58 AM
I'll ask the wife for permission to start saving up for one because she is the most likely to be taken in by this sort of crap.
I'll ask the wife for permission to start saving up for one because she is the most likely to be taken in by this sort of crap.
:hmmm:...Lets see what the Dragons say about that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-olHq_mwCc
Jimbuna
11-08-18, 08:48 AM
That must be one happy Dragon now.
Onkel Neal
11-17-18, 08:40 AM
The only robocalls I've gotten lately were from Beto's Senate campaign. Thankfully, that has now stopped. :O:
After years of worsening robocalls, a bipartisan group of senators has introduced a bill today that would levy greater penalties on people and groups that place the scammy and sometimes malicious calls.
The TRACED Act, sponsored by Sens. John Thune (R-SD), Ed Markey (D-MA), and Roger Wicker (R-MS), would dramatically increase the penalty per robocall to up to $10,000. Previously, violators were charged with up to $1,500 per call. Currently, the Federal Communications Commission can only prosecute violators over inauthentic calls that were placed in the past year. This bill increases that time frame to three years. In previous letters to the senators, the commission said that “even a one-year longer statute of limitations for enforcement. . . would improve the Commission’s enforcement efforts against knowing and willful violators.”
Earlier this year, the FCC inflicted a $120 million fine on a robocall kingpin. It was one of the largest fines ever implemented for robocall violations, and it signified that the federal government would prioritize lessening the burden of these calls on consumers. This bill generally gives the FCC more power to act on these calls, and this new power has the potential to dissuade others from placing them.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/16/18098415/robocaller-congress-fcc-penalities-traced-act
em2nought
11-17-18, 09:45 AM
THIS and charities hitting up senior citizens with junk "real" mail are two of my BIG pet peeves. Running a mini storage, I have to answer my phone no matter what. I get fake google calls all the time. The RNC aren't on my favorites list either. Also being partners with a few truck drivers who call me when they need somebody to keep them awake isn't my favorite way to pass my day, since I'm not a multi-tasker I don't get anything else done when that happens. lol My mother is getting on in years and I'm afraid of what somebody might trick her into on the phone. I really need to fix that, but she's stubborn. I think I'll still be getting junk "real" mail for her when I finally die someday. I blew my top last year when she made a contribution in my name. Only my worst enemy would do something like that, my sister had to calm me down over the phone. I never lose my cool, must have been a breaking point. :hmmm:
The day I can take my US smart phone and toss it in a lake is the day I look forward to like no other, LIKE NO OTHER. :up:
One thing that has really been bugging me lately is robocallers are increasing the tactic of making calls directly to voicemail, by passing even having to call your phone directly. It is annoying when you see you've got, say two missed calls, and five voicemail messages, and most of the voice mail messages are from robcallers. You can't even block them because the number that shows up is almost always the number for your voicemail account. This article describes the practice:
New robocall tactic? Skip the ring and go straight to your voicemail --
https://komonews.com/news/consumer/new-robocall-tactic-skip-the-ring-and-go-straight-to-your-voicemail
...and I'm not at all pleased with the exemption the government gave itself to allow them to make robocalls for their own political purposes. Fortunately, since I have no party affiliation, I don't get such calls, but I still think such calls are only self-serving and do not rise to the level of an essential such as emergency notifications, etc. ...
...and, here in CA, there have lately been robocalls by swindlers posing as firefighter charities soliciting contributions to aid the firefighters on the lines fighting the current disastrous wild fires; the local media have warned that the calls are frauds, but who knows how many gullible people will make contributions to those hucksters...
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em2nought
11-17-18, 08:42 PM
...and I'm not at all pleased with the exemption the government gave itself to allow them to make robocalls for their own political purposes.<O>
On that we can definitely agree! :Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:
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