Los Angeles Must Pay Billions to Adapt—or Slip Into the Sea

[Onkel Neal]

According to a new report from the New York Academy of Sciences, it’ll take LA as much as $6.4 billion to fortify itself against an impending increase in coastal flooding, with moves such as nourishing its beaches with extra sand and elevating its ports.

https://www.wired.com/story/los-angeles-sea-level-rise/

Ok, so LA is slipping into the sea, that's like a reverse hurricane.

[Jimbuna]

Trump could always consider building a second wall, this one being for sea defences though :hmmm:

[Catfish]

^ "NO MOLECULE GETS THROUGH, AND I WILL MAKE POSEIDON PAY FOR IT !"


Sorry, what was the OP? "Reverse hurricane" lol :)

[u crank]

Well the problem is pretty obvious. Look at a map. California is slanted to the left. There's your trouble. Time to level off a bit. :O:

[Rockstar]

But how do you fight back against a force like the sea?


geez, do I gotta think of everything?

You move to higher ground or build a boat.

[AVGWarhawk]

Trump could always consider building a second wall, this one being for sea defences though :hmmm:

Are you kidding? Well over half of the democratic voters would go into the sea! :haha::o Trump will not build a wall!!

[AVGWarhawk]

https://www.wired.com/story/los-angeles-sea-level-rise/

Ok, so LA is slipping into the sea, that's like a reverse hurricane.


Beach replenishment is conducted here on the east coast. Large ships offshore pump sand in large pipes to the beaches. The process works well but is very expensive.

http://www.octhebeach.com/images-things/beach-replenishment-c.jpg

https://www.dgs.udel.edu/sites/default/files/news/-sbytab07-16-2013dewave1t01420130714imgdeweyreplenishment11hv4. jpg

[Rockstar]

Man has a penchant building near the oceans. With sea levels having been 300 feet lower than they are now. There must be hundreds of ancient cities underwater far off shore.

[Catfish]

The geological viewpoint:
Does the sea level rise, or does the continent drop?
Or both?
Or does the sea rise faster, than the continent?
Or do both drop, but the continent is faster?

If we say the sea level rises, there must be a cause :hmmm:

[AVGWarhawk]

If we say the sea level rises, there must be a cause :hmmm:

Overabundance of toilet flushing.

[Rockstar]

Causes? :hmmm:, in addition to the overabundance of toilet flushing there's gravity, melankovitch climate cycles, solar radiation, current disarray of earths magnetic field, Atlantic and Pacific decadel oscillations . Lots of reasons why and we find out more everyday, and as much as some would like to think otherwise there isn't one damn thing you can do to change any of it. Like a big truck, going down a big hill, with no brakes, sea levels are gonna rise. So go out buy some mountain property inland while it's still cheap your great, great great grand children will think well of you. Because it will become very costly ocean front property in the near future.


bwuhuhuhaha
:lost: :D

[STEED]

Would the rest of America miss LA if it slipped into the ocean. :hmmm:


FAKE NEWS TWEET.
https://s.faketrumptweet.com/jnyum5h4_rui7lf_ues1id.png

[Mr Quatro]

The new fear is that an earthquake in LA basin would cause a tidal wave that would hit the Island of Catalina and then bounce back causing untold damage on Long Beach :o

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-earthquake-tsunami-ventura-20150819-htmlstory.html

An earthquake along the California coast could pose a greater tsunami threat to the Ventura area than previously understood, according to a new study

the study found that tsunami floodwaters could reach points in the Ventura vicinity beyond the area currently marked in California’s official tsunami inundation map. Tsunami wave heights could approach as high as 20 feet in the Ventura Harbor and Channel Islands Beach area near Oxnard.

[Onkel Neal]

^ "NO MOLECULE GETS THROUGH, AND I WILL MAKE POSEIDON PAY FOR IT !"


Sorry, what was the OP? "Reverse hurricane" lol :)

Lol

[nikimcbee]

Meh, good riddance. Take Hollywood with you.

[Skybird]

Beach replenishment is conducted here on the east coast. Large ships offshore pump sand in large pipes to the beaches. The process works well but is very expensive.

Extremely ruinous to the ocean ground and the life habitats it forms.


Also, what almost everybody does not know: sand is running out. The sand needed to build concrete with. Desert sand is unusable, its grains have no compatible geometry. The immense hunger for concrete to build ever more cities, skyscrapers and sealed infrastrructure with, has led to a race at sea for "harvesting" suitable sand from the seabed. What is left behind in the process, is a dead area. And already years ago I saw documentary on it showing that they run out of sand. Construction sand is one of the most asked-for commodity on the global trade market now. :o


We are too many.

[Rockstar]

desert sand is just another resource to exploit and exploit it we will. Just give it time. Some high school drop out will come along and figure out a way to use that desert sand for building and make his million.

[Buddahaid]

Oh the humanity...wait what humanity?

[Skybird]

desert sand is just another resource to exploit and exploit it we will. Just give it time. Some high school drop out will come along and figure out a way to use that desert sand for building and make his million.
Desert sand is - it is somethign about the geometry of the grains, they are too tiny or too round, too smooth think. It is not suitable to be used for concrete of that kind that is needed to build heavy structures. Else there would not be this big problem for thje industry. Nobody invests huge amounts of money into harvesting sand from the seabed if all he would need to do is driving into the sahara and digging sand on lorries.



Our urban civilization is literally build on sand. And most sands nature offers, are not suitable for that task. In fact, sand that can be used for the kind of construction we do in the industrialised world, is a scarce and limited ressource.



We know of cases when over night whole sandbeaches were stolen by dozens and dozens of lorries. Also, legal harvesting globally reduces the amount of natural sandy seashores and bathing beaches.



I could link you to German texts and documentaries claiming that sand is the most important unliving ressource for human economy second only to - sweet water. And construction prices are globally climbing already, due to shortages in sand supply. The concrete industry since many years already frequerntly suffers from delays in sand supplies, since it now mist be brought up from the seabed - and the shallow waters suitable already have almost completely milked by now, with partially desastrous consequences to natural habitats, coral reefs, and maritime life.


Laissez faire is definitely not the way to tackle this problem.


We are too many.


Nations in the gulf region and Saudi Arabia belong to the most active sand importers worldwide, btw. This should tell something to all sceptics who think desert sand can be used. This assumption simply is wrong. And sand mafias belong to the biggest crime cartels that operate in the world today. The demand for sand that can be used in the construction industry is twice as high than the amount of sand that rivers and the oceans flush onto land every year. The availability from this sand gets hindered even further due to dams and artifical redirecting and managing of rivers and channels.

[August]

The geological viewpoint:
Does the sea level rise, or does the continent drop?
Or both?
Or does the sea rise faster, than the continent?
Or do both drop, but the continent is faster?

If we say the sea level rises, there must be a cause :hmmm:


The weight of more than 7 billion people on the planet is causing the land to sink and the seas to rise. Fakt.

[STEED]

Meh, good riddance. Take Hollywood with you.

I see no reason not to agree with that. Hollywood has been making bloody awful films for years now.

[Skybird]

I see no reason not to agree with that. Hollywood has been making bloody awful films for years now.
The many bad ones finance the few good ones that also are being made. I prefer to simply watch the good ones while not watching the bad ones.