Silent Hunter 4 on Wine, No sound Effects?

[Caption Ranker]

Hi, I recently jumped ship and switched to Linux. I tired to Run Silent Hunter 4 U-boat missions through Steam with Lutris. It works for the most part, but the funny thing is I don't have any sound effects. Music plays fine, voices work, but other then that I can't hear anything.

I'm running Linux Mint 19. Intel i5, 12gb ram Nvidia GtX970.

I tried switching out the Kernel to the latest version, but that had no effect.

I read online I should try switching the Audio drivers with Winetricks, I tried that but it seemed to have no effect... (although I'm unsure I did it right)

I can play cold waters just fine, so I'm somewhat inclined to just put SH4 on the list of games I won't be able to play ever again, unless somebody has any ideas.

Too bad Ubisoft never made SH4 open source... ah well.

[Aktungbby]

Caption Ranker!:Kaleun_Salute: AFTER A LONG SILENT RUN!

[propbeanie]

Caption Ranker, some of the music, and a lot of the speech in SH4 is in ogg vorbis format. The rest is probably in wav format. Is there a codec for wav on your computer for Linux? I would think there would be, even before any Wine install... You can also check in the game's Options menu, under the Sound settings, and see what the various sliders are set to. The 3D slider on the upper left of that page is kind of wonky, and should probably be left of center, if you've moved it any. On my computer, it messes with the "stereo" field if I move it to the right. I'm using Win7, and I do not remember what happens with it in my Ubuntu 16.x... Are you usiig a built-in sound card on your motherboard, or an after-market thingie?... :salute:

[Caption Ranker]

Just an inbuilt sound card, although I got a USB dongle to headphones. I found out I have no sound in Skyrim when I ran that last night, so I'm assuming something is messed up with my wine install or I don't have my audio drivers working correctly. Thanks for letting me know about the sound effects. Maybe I don't have .wav codex?

I have not used linux in years, but I'm finding it much more stable then before, also don't need to open a console all the time now. Even without the sound I'm fairly impressed everything else works in SH4. I'm gonna look into fixing the sound in Skyrim, as it looks like a lot more support exists for solving that issue online, hopefully by fixing that I will fix this too. But I will also look into .wav codex and try and get a better understanding of Linux Audio.

[Caption Ranker]

Oh brother, well I got sound working on Skyrim, I have no idea what I did. I tried running it on different wine staging then switched it back and for some reason sound started working.



But now SH4 will crash anytime I try and load a mission... you know, you use Linux for awhile and it really makes you appreciate all the things that are not broken on windows that we take for granted.

Still I think I'm making progress, I'm not going back to windows, just not sure if I should list these as bugs on wine HQ.

[propbeanie]

I forget what I changed in my SH4 install one time, and it crashed from then on... Try to navigate to the game's folder, and double-click on the SH4.exe directly, instead of any shortcut you might have... BarracudaUAK and Rockin Robbins are two big Linux users here, let's see if we can get their attention...

[Caption Ranker]

I think lutris switched me over to a beta version of wine to run Skyrim. I told the runner in lutris to run staging 3.12 instead and I'm back to being able to play the game but with no sound effects.

I ran the game with the 1.9.21 version of wine that was the last version to get a platinum rating on wine HQ and it also ran but with the same issue.

There must be something I do not fundamentally understand about the audio drivers on my computer. Or maybe how wine interacts with them...

[propbeanie]

Don't forget the game's settings also though... That "3D Sound Channels" thingie, messes with my computer...

[BarracudaUAK]

I got propbeanie's message....


...BarracudaUAK and Rockin Robbins are two big Linux users here, let's see if we can get their attention...



Who you callin' "BIG"?



On to buisiness...


I can say that I'm running WINE 3.13 staging (Fedora 28) and I have sound.
(It has been working fine for the last several versions.)
I just tried both a 64bit and a 32bit (w/DX9 and Dotnet 2.0), and both are working flawlessly.

Based on a quick perusal of the thread, I can see a few possibilites...


Just an inbuilt sound card, although I got a USB dongle to headphones.
...

Are you using the headphones when you play?
Do they work for other things with sound in Linux?

If not, can you plug in a set of speakers/headphones to the sound card...

NOTE: As I was clarifying my post, I had the thought, Mint could be "seeing" the headphones as a separate sound device.
Which desktop are you running? (Cinimmon? MATE?)

Fedora "sees" my RX 580's built-in sound (for HDMI) and my motherboards sound card separately, and I can switch them "on the fly".

Can you right-click on the Sound/Speaker icon on (what windows calls) the System Tray?
Should pop-up a small menu:
KDE has "Configure Audio Volume" then I can choose the default in the window that pops up under the "Audio Volume/Devices" tab.
Cinimmon has "Output Device", Then it list the Sound options when you click on the drop down menu.
MATE has "Sound Preferences", in the box under the hardware tab it list all devices, and under the "Output" tab, you can select your prefered device...


END NOTE.

I think lutris switched me ...



I haven't used 'Lutris', or 'Play on Linux' so I'm unfamiliar with the specifics, but based on what I've read...
It allows multiple different versions of WINE, and then runs the program through those.

There may be a disconnect somewhere in there, since WINE isn't running from the default location on the system.
The System may not be allowing WINE access to the sound...
OR could be a bug in the version of Lutris that you have.


I'm not sure about this, but I thought I would mention the possibility...

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BTW, which Kernel version are you using?
At the terminal: uname -r


Barracuda

P.S. I'm one of those that is going to ask you some questions that you might have to use the terminal to answer...

I from the DOS era, so command line is "home" for me!

[Caption Ranker]

Yeah I'm running Mint 19 with the Cinnamon desktop. I should have mentioned that I switched from my headphones, to my speakers and had the same issue.

Yeah, lutris is great, it's really making the transition to Linux much easier. It's basically a better version of play on linux, making set up of wine games a one click process in most cases.

I can run off my systems version of wine with Lutris. I just did so and used wine tricks to switch between the different audio divers Alias, OSS, Plus audio to no effect.

It's sounding more and more like there is something wrong with my version on linux mint 19 and how it is handling audio. I believe I should be able to install another version of Linux alongside my current OS fairly easy if I remember. I think that is my next step in determining what's wrong here.


Edit: Also my sound works fine in everything else, I had an issue with Skyrim but somehow that fixed itself by just switching between wine versions with lutris.


Edit: Did you install DX 9? I'm trying to do anything but install DX9.

[propbeanie]

I got propbeanie's message....

Who you callin' "BIG"?
...
Why, me of course, big on Linux, that is!... :salute:

Just a "refresher" for my memory, but check out:

Rockin Robbin's Let's Install Linux on Moonlight's Spare Computer! (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2441856#post2441856)
and
BarracudaUAK's WINE or How to run your Windows game on Linux (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2457836#post2457836)


Of particular note here is RR's post #27 on page 2 (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2442773#post2442773) wherein DirectX v9.0c and the WindowsMedia 9 Codecs are part of the game install at about the 55 second mark of his video...

there might be updates to the Linux stuff though... :salute:

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[BarracudaUAK]

I had a system freeze while typing, so this will be short and to the point, appologies ahead of time...


Typos possible too....

>> NOTE: Freeze again... somethings up, booted with older kernel, hopefully it holds this time!
I had similar trouble, and it wasn't WINE, it was the Video drivers, it was finally fixed with a Kernel update... So that may very well be the problem you are having...
Still, I'll leave the entirety of my post here so you can see my wandering and rambling before coming to this conclusion...


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Yeah I'm running Mint 19 with the Cinnamon desktop. I should have mentioned that I switched from my headphones, to my speakers and had the same issue.
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Ok, that removes "wrong device" as a possible issue.
Is the output "muted"? (I've done that before.)



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Yeah, lutris is great, it's really making the transition to Linux much easier. It's basically a better version of play on linux, making set up of wine games a one click process in most cases.

I can run off my systems version of wine with Lutris. I just did so and used wine tricks to switch between the different audio divers Alias, OSS, Plus audio to no effect.
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> I was typing this section when it froze, so this is the short version. <

Aplication Launcher ("start menu"), under WINE:
WINE Configuration. (or terminal "winecfg"), you can select the output device.

If the rest of the system is working with one of them, then sticking with that while you try to troubleshoot the issue is probably best.




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It's sounding more and more like there is something wrong with my version on linux mint 19 and how it is handling audio. I believe I should be able to install another version of Linux alongside my current OS fairly easy if I remember. I think that is my next step in determining what's wrong here.
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Yes you can, you need an empty partition to put the System on.
If you setup a seperate "Home" partition (a partition mounted at /home) for MINT...
THEN...
EITHER:
A: Put the 2nd Linux distro's /home on the "system" partition. That is, don't setup a separate /home partition when you install it.

B: Use a different Desktop for the 2nd Linux Distro.
OR
C: Use a different USERNAME.

OTHERWISE:
The Settings files might over-write each other if it is the same desktop (Cinimmon/MATE/KDE/etc.) if on the same partition.


If you go with option "A" or "C", you will need to reinstall (or copy over) SH4.

>>> CAN CLARIFY THIS IF NEED BE <<<

(I really need to do a basic run-down on how this works, with pics and all.)



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Edit: Also my sound works fine in everything else, I had an issue with Skyrim but somehow that fixed itself by just switching between wine versions with lutris.
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I've had issues that are fixed with a WINE update.
But if the problem persist, then it's probably not WINE.



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Edit: Did you install DX 9? I'm trying to do anything but install DX9.


Only my 32bit prefix has DX9 and Dotnet 2.0, others have Dotnet 4/4.5/4.6/etc as required by mod tools/editors.


My default 64bit. is "clean" unless a game has installed something on its "first run".






Why, me of course, big on Linux, that is!...

Just a "refresher" for my memory, but check out:

Rockin Robbin's Let's Install Linux on Moonlight's Spare Computer!
and
BarracudaUAK's WINE or How to run your Windows game on Linux


Of particular note here is RR's post #27 on page 2 wherein DirectX v9.0c and the WindowsMedia 9 Codecs are part of the game install at about the 55 second mark of his video...

there might be updates to the Linux stuff though...




My WINE thread only covers the basics, it doesn't go into that much detail.


I did plan on covering the install of tools like S3D, since the install isn't straight forward.
It's not hard, just not as easy as point and click.

[propbeanie]

Someone (you??) has some notes on their adventure getting S3D on their computer, and I used that, but cannot remember...

But, let me get this straight, a newer Linux distro, 64-bit, and a newer Wine do not ~need~ the DirectX v9.0c and the Windows Media Codec install from the SH4 install package?... but 32-bit Linux installs do - or might?... ??

As a little side comment to your "freezes", I'm getting the same thing on my Win7-64 install, and the dirty fingernail is being pointed at the first signs of hard drive failure on my Seagate 3G "back-up" drive (which somehow became a "data" drive over the course of time... :o ). My Windows swap file is on the drive, and I'll have all sorts of weirdness as the drive is accessed. A move of the swap file, and the computer is fine. At this time, I'm trying to do a true back-up of the data, and going nutz trying to do it and mod FotRSU right now - and keeping my tootsies crossed that the drive lives long enough to get the data off of it... :salute:

[BarracudaUAK]

Someone (you??) has some notes on their adventure getting S3D on their computer, and I used that, but cannot remember...
...




It is entirely possible that I covered it in one of the many threads where I covered a little bit (as necessary to clarify my point), but it's not in the thread you linked.
(Planned, but has yet to happen.)




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But, let me get this straight, a newer Linux distro, 64-bit, and a newer Wine do not ~need~ the DirectX v9.0c and the Windows Media Codec install from the SH4 install package?... but 32-bit Linux installs do - or might?... ??
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The vast majority of DirectX 9 "redirects" are in place in WINE. Certain programs may have been programmed with certain DX 'bugs' in mind (for example: 99% of Win95 programs), as a such may require a certain DirectX to be installed.


However, even if they are installed, by default WINE will not use them.
You must set the .dll 'overrides' in winecfg.
WINETRICKS does this automatically when you use it to install DirectX/Dotnet/etc.
My Steam based SH4 "installed" DX9 on it's first run.
As several other games, all in that same prefix.
WINETRICKS won't install certain items to a 64bit prefix, Dotnet is one of them.
(Makes it hard to use some mod tools for certain games.)


S3D requires Dotnet 2.0, which will NOT install (last I checked) in a 64bit prefix.
So it would require a 32bit prefix with it installed.
I setup one because a few games, "way back" in 1.7.xx (late 2014, when dinosaurs roamed the earth) required it to work properly.
WINE v1.7-1.8 finished up the DX9 work (based on what I've read), and 1.9+ has started on DX10/11...







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As a little side comment to your "freezes", I'm getting the same thing on my Win7-64 install, and the dirty fingernail is being pointed at the first signs of hard drive failure on my Seagate 3G "back-up" drive (which somehow became a "data" drive over the course of time... :o ). My Windows swap file is on the drive, and I'll have all sorts of weirdness as the drive is accessed. A move of the swap file, and the computer is fine. At this time, I'm trying to do a true back-up of the data, and going nutz trying to do it and mod FotRSU right now - and keeping my tootsies crossed that the drive lives long enough to get the data off of it... :salute:


I'm running through the basic test to check what it is, but it started with an upgrade, but the old 5200x2 is working fine, for now...


I thought maybe it was settings as I used the backup "test" user which is 'stock' on all the settings to test if maybe it was a case of conflicting settings, but it still froze on running the Unigine Heaven benchmark.


So I'm thinking it video driver related, I'll swap back to my R9 380, and my R7 370X later to test and see if it's just the RX 580's drivers or if is something else.


Drive test came up clean, RAID is in good shape.
Plus I'm running a RAID 10 f2, so I've got a backup, a single drive failure wouldn't stop it.


Odd thing is, it's not a "hard" freeze, music still plays, and you might even be able to "ctrl-alt-f2" and login there. But even then it'll eventually hang if I try to shut it down.




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:hijacked:






Back to the no sound problem.....




Only thing I can think of through all of this, is that maybe there is a bug for that sound card, or maybe something is simply turned "off".


But without being able to sit in front of it, I'm almost "wandering around in the dark..."

Things have changed a lot lately.




Barracuda

[propbeanie]

... The vast majority of DirectX 9 "redirects" are in place in WINE. Certain programs ...
Things have changed a LOT, and a lot lately, within the last year and a half... what's that 'law' they said about computers that they'd double in speed every 3 years? Welllll... what about the software, OS and networking???

In the meantime, I remember now the S3D thingie, was I've got on a Windows partition that my Ubuntu can reach out and touch... maybe that was how?... naw... net2... == We interrupt this oldmanitis stream of distracted thoughts ==

We now return you to our original stream:
... what about those Windows Media 9 codecs of the regular SH4 install though? Are those in the Wine, or just more alcohol?... :arrgh!: :salute:

[Caption Ranker]

Media 9 codec had no effect. Valve just released Steam Play today and I'm gonna see if I can get it to run with that.

[BarracudaUAK]

Media 9 codec had no effect. Valve just released Steam Play today and I'm gonna see if I can get it to run with that.






At this point I have no clue, but then again... it is late and I'm really tired.


I'll do some more digging as soon as I can not doze off at the keyboard....


Barracuda

[Caption Ranker]

Yeah something's gotta be wrong with my computer. It seems Linux mint has had issues with their sound drivers in the past. I wonder if I should submit a bug to them. I tried to play some Skyrim and the sound worked for a little bit until loaded a new area.

[BarracudaUAK]

Yeah something's gotta be wrong with my computer. It seems Linux mint has had issues with their sound drivers in the past. I wonder if I should submit a bug to them. I tried to play some Skyrim and the sound worked for a little bit until loaded a new area.




Although it is usually fixable...


Sometimes with Linux, if I'm playing with an area that is new to me, or that I'm out of practice with.... and I mess it up.

Sometimes a re-install can fix it. (Other times, deleting the config files in your /home/[username] will fix it.)
Although, then you have to redo any changes that you know are not the problem.


But for me, installing Fedora is about 20 minutes from "insert DVD" to " boot OS from hard drive", and most of that is me setting up user accounts and passwords.
Add in another 5 minutes if I'm tweaking my RAID setup (which I've found a setup I like now).
Updates may take a while, depending of how long that version has been out (28 now, 29 should be here in a few months) 2 GB worth of updates take about 20 minutes to download and install.




Faster than WinXP... Which would take all day.
Especially with Dotnet.... that always seemed to take forever. :doh:


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>>This is the section where I start suggesting swapping out "parts" to see what is broken. <<




You might consider giving another distro a try, you could try a LIVE CD/DVD...
Maybe a version of Ubuntu, which Mint is based on, or Debian (which Ubuntu is based on), or, maybe (just maybe) try something that rides a little closer to the "bleeding edge". Arch or Fedora are a few options.


Just long enough to see if it is MINT.


Start by backing up your SH4 WINE prefix first (just copying it should do),
Install WINE while running the LIVE DVD (which would go away as soon as you reboot), and test if you have sound.


All of the data would be in the default WINE prefix.
Steam, etc. would work (if SH4 is through steam), and you could test that way without needing to install another distro.




If the sound works, then it is an issue with MINT.
If not, then it is a problem with WINE/SH4.


LIVE DVDs, usually won't touch your Hard Drive unless you tell it to.


Just a thought.




Barracuda

[Caption Ranker]

Yeah I downloaded Ubuntu Studio, just haven't installed it yet.

This is one issue with Linux that really irritates me, and usually causes me to switch back to windows. Why do I constantly need to reinstall my OS because something broke? You never need to do that in windows, but in linux you push the system too hard and you might find out your desktop environment is broken. Good luck surfing the net for a solution in a terminal! I am making liberal use of the system backup utility though, and so far- I have not had that issues yet (fingers crossed).

I can't go back to windows though. I jumped ship because they started censoring people. Now that they took out Alex Jones and everybody was like "Good!", they are taking even more people down now. They just removed 653 Facebook pages Today!

I mean if they can just start censoring people like they are now, what's to stop Apple and Windows from taking the next logical step and introduce updates that remove "harmful foreign content" from your computer, your phone.

I would highly suggest people consider switching over to Linux, or setting up a backup system. Start downloading information you like that is controversial and save if because nothing is forever on internet anymore.

Also Linux is a lot better now, and I'm having fun playing Doom in the native Linux client!

[BarracudaUAK]

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Why do I constantly need to reinstall my OS because something broke?
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What I meant was, IF you break it, you can always re-install _-IF-_ you don't know enough to un-break it.
There isn't an "activation" limit stopping you...


I've recovered from situations I thought my system was beyond hope.
But IF you don't want to figure out how to fix it, you can do a -quick- re-install.

My point in my last post was: Don't worry about breaking it!!!!




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You never need to do that in windows,
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I've had to re-install Windows more than Linux in my time...
Most of it XP, 98SE too. There were some days I couldn't "un-break" it, unless I used Linux (dual boot, or a Knoppix live-cd) to replace the affected files.
Even then, XP would eventually crash.

(Or *DOS* in the Win95 days.)



It is the main reason I used 2 hard drives in Windows, 1 for the OS, and 1 for all my games/downloads. Most of my games would skip files from a previous install, so it took me 2 minutes per game, instead of 10-20 minutes per game.
DOS ruled here, it didn't have a registry! Didn't crash on me either.




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but in linux you push the system too hard and you might find out your desktop environment is broken.
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I had a problem with my Fedora install, I re-installed, and it didn't fix it....

I finally found the problem, it was the settings files...
I had played with something, that I really shouldn't have, then updated and caused a problem....

The fix was simple, delete the KDE settings folder in the .config directory, and TADA!!! fixed.

Most of my Desktop (i.e. GUI) problems have been fixable with deleting configuration/settings files, or worst case, upgrading/re-installing/downgrading -just those files-.
(using DNF the Redhat/Fedora package manager.)


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In addtion to computer issues, I had this adventure today in car land:



I just finished swapping a "coil on plug" on a Nissan car (not mine thankfully!), and I had to pull the intake to get to the coils/plugs/injectors.


But Wait, That's Not All!
Act Now and you have to pull the Throttle body to get to the last intake bolt.
Which means you have to unplug a bunch of connectors and hoses.
And pull the hose from the Mass Airflow Sensor (only to find it torn in 2 places :damn:)


And then you have to pull all of the vacuum hoses and connections on all of these items to get them loose.


Then after that, you have to work around the bracket that you can't get loose because the Nissan tech/mechanic stripped the head on one of the bolts (that would make this slightly simpler).


Then you get it all off, only to realize that the "mis-fire" on Cylinder #1, just might have been a loose connection on the Fuel Injector...:nope:
(That you would have to pull the intake to reach anyway!)

Ohh well, too late now!


I seriously doubt that the "lean" error is the O2 sensor, now that I know the intake hose is torn...:doh: (between the MAF sensor and the Throttle body).


Any way, off topic!!!



Barracuda

[Caption Ranker]

Well I guess yesterday Valve accidentally released the Dev version of their software, and when I ran SH4 no text would load. Today they fixed it and text loads. It runs with the same sound issue however.

It's gotta be an issue with Linux mint sound drivers. Still gotta install ubunut Studio I guess.

[propbeanie]

Make a "live" cd (dvd??) first to test, like BarracudaUAK mentioned above. That's how I decided to use Ubuntu to begin with. You can "point" it at files just about anywhere when its running... :salute:

[Caption Ranker]

Well I went through the Laborious task of installing Ubuntu Studio because I messed up the system trying to install it along side mint. No regrets though, I'm still having the same issue sadly, but I'm actually kinda happy about it.

The fact I'm having this level of consistency between Ubuntu studio and Linux mint is big step for Linux IMO. I remember back in the day when installing a different Distro was actually suggested as a fix to your problem. Now I can reinstall Linux Mint and feel confident I never need to switch to fix again.

Still, I must be having a hardware issue then. Guess I gotta figure out what Mobo I have.

[Caption Ranker]

Hey you know thanks for letting me know about deleting config files in .config folder. I decided to install KDE again (always a bad idea), and I went back to xfce and everything was broken. This is about the time I usually reinstall Linux (or worse, windows), but Instead I deleted the config files for xfce and something else that had to do with text color on the desktop, rebooted, and it was fixed.

I'm half tempted to dig into xfce's source code and put a button in the system options somewhere that deletes all these config files for the user. But I guess like everyone else, once you learn this Linux trick you no longer see the need in building something to hold your hand.

[BarracudaUAK]

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I'm still having the same issue sadly, but I'm actually kinda happy about it.

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Still, I must be having a hardware issue then. Guess I gotta figure out what Mobo I have.
Sorry it took me a few days, I've been dealing with a Video issue, trying to resolve if it was hardware or drivers (since I updated to kernel 4.17.14 I've been having issues with my RX 580).




Well, good to know it was consistent... Not so good that it still isn't working...

Fortunately I had a good (vioeo) card to fall back on.


Do you have an older sound card laying around that you could try?
Might be that one last thing to make it work...






Hey you know thanks for letting me know about deleting config files in .config folder. I decided to install KDE again (always a bad idea), and I went back to xfce and everything was broken. This is about the time I usually reinstall Linux (or worse, windows), but Instead I deleted the config files for xfce and something else that had to do with text color on the desktop, rebooted, and it was fixed.

I'm half tempted to dig into xfce's source code and put a button in the system options somewhere that deletes all these config files for the user. But I guess like everyone else, once you learn this Linux trick you no longer see the need in building something to hold your hand.


No problem, glad it helped! :up:



I used to have to re-install all the time (Redhat 9 & Fedora 3-10 days) because either my anti-virus would "clean" the MBR and wipe-out the boot loader (lilo at the time)....


OR, WinXP would crash and I would need to re-install XP, and as a result Fedora would need to be as well.


I installed 12, then 14 about a year later (lack of broad-band) and then 16.
Put, 14 and 16 on their own drive, but with a Knoppix LiveCD, I didn't need it as often, so I didn't upgrade it...


With Fedora 20, almost everything was different.
THEN I found out about the ".config" folder.
Some things have moved since then, I'm on 28 now, so I still have to go hunting "where are the settings for.... aha... go to directory... aaaaaaaand it's not there? *google* ohh, they moved it as of version... why? ahh, it's all in the same place now, ok..."



My mother read somewhere that if you keep reading and learning new things, it can delay the onset of old-timers... I'm not there yet, but if the info is accurate...
Then Linux should keep me good for a while.

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I've run KDE since I tried Gnome the first time (about RedHat 5), and I couldn't find the settings menu to tweak a setting for the desktop.


I swapped over to KDE (had them both installed) and found the settings instantly, so I stayed with it.
I used to install a bunch of DEs and that way switch over if I wanted a change of pace.
Bonus was I could show anybody that asked "what's that?", if I showed them one and they said "I don't like it", then I could swap over and say "how about this one?".


With the FGLRX (Catalyst) drivers wanting to pick a "primary" desktop to configure itself to, I stuck with KDE (4 at the time, Fedora 20).

But Since the new(-ish) AMDGPU kernel driver (and RadeonSI on the Mesa/desktop side) handling the video, I installed LXDE as well while I was trying to troubleshoot my RX 580 issues.

My old Athlon 5600 X2, with a HD6750 has KDE (5), LXDE, XFCE, MATE, Cinnamon, and I think something else as well (openbox??? :hmmm:).
I may put them all back on, just need to find a way to separate the programs by DE, otherwise I'll have a list of programs as long as my arm... :doh:


I run several of the Gnome tools (Sound recorder, Gnome Disk Utility) because they have things I like, but I want my "desktop computer" to look and feel like a "desktop computer".
Gnome Shell and Unity are a bit too "cell phone" for me...


But there's "no accounting for taste" for any of us! :haha:


Barracuda




P.S. Keep us posted about any progress, I'll keep my eye out for sound driver bugs or any WINE sound info.
If I see anything I'll post it in this thread.

[Caption Ranker]

I have no idea what I did, I reinstalled Linux Mint a few days ago, and tried SH4 today, Now the sound works in steam proton just fine.

[BarracudaUAK]

Good to know it is working for you.


Barracuda