The new German frigate class F-125 - mad ein Germany, unfortunately

[Skybird]

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Oh dear. Is there anything left that German engineers and planners and strategist still can achieve without messing it up? Wasn't German engineering and German managing and precise planning once proverbial core virtues of "German-ness"?


Well, I coudl answer that, but that uis a debate reaching far beyond those ships.



A surprise the F-125 drama certainly is not.

[Gerald]

Sky! Is this a brand new concept.:hmmm:

[Skybird]

Planning started in 2007, I think. By now, two units already should have been in full service.

One should scrap them, write off the money already wasted, and avoid wasting even more money on them. They will be hopelessly outdated when they enter service. They already were from planning on, it seems to me.

Like with the BER airport. Scrap it. Start new. Or better, do not start at all.

[Gerald]

Money destruction.

[Skybird]

Business as usual.

[Rockstar]

Welcome Germany, glad you could join us at the club of piss poor planning and government boondoggles.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/05/navy-accelerates-plans-for-up-gunned-lcs-frigate-takes-delivery-of-zumwalt/

The LCS program has experienced a number of glitches over its lifetime—canceled weapons systems, mine-hunting systems that can't pass acceptance tests (http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/naval/ships/2015/08/02/navy-lcs-littoral-combat-ship-mission-module-asw-anti-submarine-warfare-mcm-mine-countermeasures-surface-moton-hellfire-coronado-independence/31026563/), failures of gears aboard two ships (https://news.usni.org/2016/01/21/littoral-combat-ship-uss-fort-worth-sidelined-in-singapore-with-propulsion-system-damage) that left them stranded, and the realization that no one asked for hull corrosion protection (http://www.nace.org/CORROSION-FAILURE-LCS-2-USS-Independence-Naval-Ship-Engine-Corrosion.aspx) on one variant.
The biggest problem the LCS faces, however, is that its capabilities that do work match up against a very specific class of adversary: something on the level of 1990s-era Iranian Revolutionary Guard Navy patrol boats and suicide speedboats. And with the rise of China's blue-water navy and the growing tensions over claims in the South China Sea, the LCS is facing missions where the threat will be beyond its current capabilities.

[em2nought]

The LCS program has experienced a number of glitches over its lifetime
Shush, I was getting ready to offer our Littorals in trade for their frigates.

:har:

[Jimbuna]

Shush, I was getting ready to offer our Littorals in trade for their frigates.

:har:

:haha: