GDPR: EU data protection regulation comes into force

[Gerald]

New European Union rules on data protection have now come into effect.

The General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) gives EU citizens more rights over how their personal information is used.

Companies working in the EU - or any association or club - must now get express consent to collect personal information, or face hefty fines.

The measure is an effort by EU lawmakers to limit tech companies' powers.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44248448

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-44224802

We will see how this will work in practice.

[JU_88]

Like most I got emails about it from every mailing i'm subscribed too, which is handy as it means i can unsub from most them with out have to run an inbox search. :O:

[Skybird]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44248448

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-44224802

We will see how this will work in practice.


For small and mid-sized local businesses as well as clubs and associations it is a nightmare. Even whena sports club files a team list for a tournament, they now fall under these new laws, the amount of background bureaucracy is immense. BBC says that many US newspapers and websites currently are down in Europe. Some US comolanies have stopped doing business in the EU to not risk getting caught by this new law.


While I welcome that the big data abuse of big companies and social media and them like gets cut back, the law has side effects that makes it extremely problematic to handle by local small and mid sized shops and businesses. Also, competitors now can eagerly scan the competition and sue them for law violations in an attempt to throw mud at them.


One should have taken much more precise aim and US big data players on the eU market and European big data companies as well.btu that would have needed too much expertise and time, to prepare such a lw, also it would have meant to confront the US.


Its like this in any socialist regime. Bureaucracy and regulation grows and grows and grows and grows, tries to strangle everything and everyone. Außer Spesen nichts gewesen.


Its not so much about the individual'S private sphere anyway, although they claim it. The real mammoth to be confronted here is not the violation of individual rights, but a whole new technology. While this is a big callibre-shot, it is way too unaimed and willcause a lot of collateral damage.


I got surprisingly few of those emails, btw. Shows with how little of conscriptions and assignments you can get along, even today. Only takes some self-restraint, and some wisdom in choice.

[Catfish]

^ I do not think that a "law" having to tell people how their personal and metadata are being used, is "socialist" lmao.

IMHO it is self evident to have to tell people, it is just that companies like Google and Facebook completely ignore this, and the privacy of their 'clients'. It now seems they get the bill for that anyway.

Other US companies, as well as China and Russia try to get their hands on any data, preferably industrial, scientific and last not least secret political background information.

That the EU finally tries to limit that is the right move, and as far as i konw it is the only organistion worldwide to even try it. If you want to know how it will look like without it in a few years, go for China.

Of course it is unclear if it works at all, if people give away their personal data and information publicly with a US president as their shining example.


And by the way, this new law coming into effect has been announced two. years. ago. With the full wording and text being visibble for everyone.

[Skybird]

^ I do not think that a "law" having to tell people how their personal and metadata are being used, is "socialist" lmao.
Meditate a bit about what I really have said.

[Jimbuna]

Like most I got emails about it from every mailing i'm subscribed too, which is handy as it means i can unsub from most them with out have to run an inbox search. :O:

My thoughts entirely :03:

[Catfish]

Skybird: "Its like this in any socialist regime. Bureaucracy and regulation grows and grows and grows and grows, tries to strangle everything and everyone. Außer Spesen nichts gewesen. I do not understand the last sentence in this context anyway, but the first is clear enough. A law being introduced to protect customers or at least make them aware what is being done with their data on websites etc., is "like in any socialist regime", with "bureaucracy and regulation" trying to strangle those good-mooded and intentionally caring big business companies, and foreign secret services.

I bet your wisdom is highly appraised by Trump, May, or Xi Jin Ping. Why don't you finally emigrate?




See, your people are as dumb as mine. Why not exploit that?

https://i.imgur.com/glPF4Nt.jpg

[Gerald]

From LA Times site:Unfortunately, our website is currently unavailable in most European countries. We are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options that support our full range of digital offerings to the EU market. We continue to identify technical compliance solutions that will provide all readers with our award-winning journalism.

http://www.tronc.com/gdpr/latimes.com/

[Catfish]

Like most I got emails about it from every mailing i'm subscribed too, which is handy as it means i can unsub from most them with out have to run an inbox search. :O:


My thoughts entirely :03:



Ah eMails.. yes.
You are aware what happens when you visit whatever website?
No? This is why this new law has been created.

[Jimbuna]

Ah eMails.. yes.
You are aware what happens when you visit whatever website?
No? This is why this new law has been created.

All one can do is put up their best safeguards and defences or alternatively, cease opening emails and visiting websites.

[JU_88]

Ah eMails.. yes.
You are aware what happens when you visit whatever website?
No? This is why this new law has been created.


Vaguely yes, whats your point?

[Catfish]

The point is most people do not know what happens, and i do not mean the URL requests and how DNS resolution works, but how and why your IP address is stored, the cookies and all those other widgets and gizzmoes instantly placed on your PC and generally how they track, store and analyze you moves through the Web, building a more or less exact user profile.
They also use you metadata, like from where you access, at which time, in a certain rhythm, and so on.
They also stay on you PC if you cut the internet, and record what they are programmed for. They will also release the gathered informatioin the next time you go online. IF you are not online 24 hours a day anyway, via your router.

It does not stop there though. You entire recorded data are being sold to other companies, which is how e.g. Google and Facebook make money. From bank account information to credit requests, to which things you buy. You become predictable and transparent, and can be blackmailed.

Self-evident, but it seems a lot of especially Facebook users are not aware of that, or they do not care.
Some years ago, people have already protested against population censuses, now they publish their innermost secrets, along with financial and address information without a care.

The web has been built without laws or any care for the customer, and while it did wonderful things, it is now being censored, exploited and abused. The EU law tries(!) to give the people some awareness, and legal certainty.
I have no high hopes because after all it depends on the individual's consciousness and knowledge, but it still is a step in the right direction.

[JU_88]

The point is most people do not know what happens, and i do not mean the URL requests and how DNS resolution works, but how and why your IP address is stored, the cookies and all those other widgets and gizzmoes instantly placed on your PC and generally how they track, store and analyze you moves through the Web, building a more or less exact user profile.
They also use you metadata, like from where you access, at which time, in a certain rhythm, and so on.
They also stay on you PC if you cut the internet, and record what they are programmed for. They will also release the gathered informatioin the next time you go online. IF you are not online 24 hours a day anyway, via your router.

It does not stop there though. You entire recorded data are being sold to other companies, which is how e.g. Google and Facebook make money. From bank account information to credit requests, to which things you buy. You become predictable and transparent, and can be blackmailed.

Self-evident, but it seems a lot of especially Facebook users are not aware of that, or they do not care.
Some years ago, people have already protested against population censuses, now they publish their innermost secrets, along with financial and address information without a care.

The web has been built without laws or any care for the customer, and while it did wonderful things, it is now being censored, exploited and abused. The EU law tries(!) to give the people some awareness, and legal certainty.
I have no high hopes because after all it depends on the individual's consciousness and knowledge, but it still is a step in the right direction.

Yes i was aware of that and i agree with your conclusion / sentiment.

[STEED]

Its all crap! Nothing is protected these days, live with it or get off the grid.

[Rhodes]

Bahhh, yes, yes, no, no, yes, and no. And all is the same! :doh::D:Kaleun_Cheers:

[STEED]

https://s16315.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Amazon-Echo-Dot-by-@philww.jpg


This came on the radio I'm listening too, apparently it transmitted a personnel conversation! I suspect "alexa" will be shown as another device not to trust. GET OFF THE GRID OR LIVE WITH IT!

[Skybird]

https://s16315.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Amazon-Echo-Dot-by-@philww.jpg


This came on the radio I'm listening too, apparently it transmitted a personnel conversation! I suspect "alexa" will be shown as another device not to trust. GET OFF THE GRID OR LIVE WITH IT!
Yes, it "overheard" a private conversation and then connected to a link form the adress book and sent it to it.


What do people expect of these things? They are running microphones, all the time on!



Smart-TVs. A European consumer protection organisation sued Samsung already one or two years ago for one of its "smart" TVs and its ability to film pics and record conversations in the living room sending them somewhere.



The "sensors" of the Oculus are webcams - with added IR capability, they already have been demonstrated to be hackable.



But young people get conditioned from teen years on now to believe such things are "cool". Its like with smoking - the commercial and tobacco industry knew very well that if you had not turned people into addicts already by their 18th or 20th birthday, after that the probability would drop dramatically, making non-smokers beyond that age an unattractive target audience. And so what happened, whom were they focussing on...?



People are made to behave like babies, dependent and helpless if they do not have their techno gizzmos around them.



Last summer I had a boy age maybe 14 or 15 pointing at my open compass and asking "What is that?"


:o

[STEED]

I find this very scary and as more and more of this is sold under the banner it will help you make your life easy, really for who?


1984, The Prisoner are now a fact. Stand by for the trap to snap shut and by then it will be game over.

[Skybird]

I put a tiny sticker on the selfie-camera of my pseudosmartphone. Free again, free again, finally free again!

[Jimbuna]

Yes, it "overheard" a private conversation and then connected to a link form the adress book and sent it to it.


What do people expect of these things? They are running microphones, all the time on!





*Note to self* Never site one in the bedroom :)