need a new browser recommendation for win 7

[Webster]

explorer 11 just doesn't work anymore, way too many incompatibilities with certain websites causing it to constantly be hanging up and crashing

thing is, firefox looked great at first but I quickly found it is just as bad and even worse for hanging up and crashing on some websites

I really really really don't want chrome and try to avoid anything google related


I tried opera but has a laptop browser touch screen format and from what I see most of the browsers that come up in searches are like that now

I just want a simple desktop PC browser that works and wont hang up loading tons of crap or be filled with built in spyware to sell my browsing habits to spammers.

what is out there that is very similar to explorer format and designed for PCs and not laptops?

I don't know much about browser software and just want something basic that works without conflicts.

I hope I can get something with a familiar looking layout to what I am used to with explorer. hell I don't even know if I can go back to an older version of explorer to find something that works but if I could, im good with that too.

[Gerald]

Chrome.Safari.

[BarracudaUAK]

I'm using firefox, no problems here.
Even have it on my phone, does all the stuff that the built in browser won't.

Currently have Firefox 55 installed...

I'm avoiding all others except Konqueror (https://konqueror.org/download/), which doesn't appear to be available for Windows...:hmmm:

Which OS do you have?


Barracuda

[Skybird]

Chrome is secure from a malware-related point. No other browsers get patched as often and quickly. The big negative is that Google denies you any privacy with it. Security top, privacy flop. Fail.

Explorer: dont cry for it. No other browser got attacked as much as this one. Fail.

Firefox: the only browser amongst the big ones that I know that allows oyu both security and privacy. Seal it up, have a few addons adding to safety (ask for adds and I gove a short list), and enjoy. If you constantly run into problems with it, then most likely the prioblem is with your generla system, connection, whatever. The browser itself runs very stable both under Windows 7 and Linux Mint. Pass.

You could check out Opera. Years ago I used it, and it was quite good in security and privacy, but then they messed up the UI and thought they had to reinvent the wheel, and it became a mess and they lost half their user base, they also went with some stuff by Google. I have not followed it since years anymore, I am happy with Firefox now. But Opera is maybe worth to be re-checked out. But I promise you nothing. Unknown.

My vote goes for Firefox.

[Skybird]

hell I don't even know if I can go back to an older version of explorer to find something that works but if I could, im good with that too.
You. Dont. Want. That.

[Onkel Neal]

I switched from IE to Chrome some years back. I'm not allowed to endorse Chrome but I can say I don't have any big complaints.

[Webster]

Chrome is secure from a malware-related point. No other browsers get patched as often and quickly. The big negative is that Google denies you any privacy with it. Security top, privacy flop. Fail.

Explorer: dont cry for it. No other browser got attacked as much as this one. Fail.

Firefox: the only browser amongst the big ones that I know that allows oyu both security and privacy. Seal it up, have a few addons adding to safety (ask for adds and I gove a short list), and enjoy. If you constantly run into problems with it, then most likely the prioblem is with your generla system, connection, whatever. The browser itself runs very stable both under Windows 7 and Linux Mint. Pass.

You could check out Opera. Years ago I used it, and it was quite good in security and privacy, but then they messed up the UI and thought they had to reinvent the wheel, and it became a mess and they lost half their user base, they also went with some stuff by Google. I have not followed it since years anymore, I am happy with Firefox now. But Opera is maybe worth to be re-checked out. But I promise you nothing. Unknown.

My vote goes for Firefox.

well firefox works great until you come across certain websites that have some sort of compatibility issues which I assume are somehow cookie related, but if you use one of those websites it goes into endless cookie loading and being blocked issues until it freezes, then you have to reload the page and it happens again. sometimes its not the main page but when you open a forum post is when it does it. its just one or two websites I have issues with but I use those 40% of my online activity so its something of a huge problem for me but I don't know what is so different about those websites software that causes issues

I love using firefox except for this issue but its very similar to the problems explorer has where some pages wont load because of (im assuming) the same loading cookies issues. plus explorer is slow as a turtle
I switched from IE to Chrome some years back. I'm not allowed to endorse Chrome but I can say I don't have any big complaints.

well I don't agree with googles privacy invasion policies or their SJW politics and censorship so chrome is definitely NOT what I want unless I have no other choice, and I mean "absolutely" no other choice.

why Microsoft made "edge" incompatible with older OS is infuriating but SOP for those crooks trying to force win 10 down our throats.

from what I am hearing, it seems like my only two good options are, use chrome and have everything I do online recorded and sold to spammers or upgrade to win 10 (which I don't like at all) and then I can use edge browser that comes with it

[propbeanie]

Webster, for Windows 7-64, I've got IE11, Firefox (whatever the latest version) and Opera all on the same computers, and all for the same reason. Some sites want and need IE 11 and only IE 11. Others are OK with Firefox, but I use mostly Opera because it is "lighter" in its load size, and faster. However, like all the others, certain web site "techniques" will cause it problems, just like all the others. It used to be that a site might have a logo on the home page that would say "Optimized to work with IE6" or "Opitmized for Firefox" or whatever, but now it's up to the user to figure it out, I guess. If a particular page gives me trouble, I try one of the other browsers. I keep IE 11 as my "default" browser, which is what opens when certain programs (Photoshop LE) open their "Help" page, but it can be a bit inconvenient to always having to answer "Not now" or whatever it is, to the pop-up "This is not your default browser. Do you want to change that?", every time I open one of the other browsers first. My XP boots are no longer allowed on the internet, and I'll pull the wire whenever going into XP, but I had a similar set-up on them. I have two school-age sons, both on Windows 10-64 laptops, and one uses Firefox almost exclusively, the other uses Opera, but they both still have IE whatever the last number was, and that Edge, which is nothing more than IE whatever, with the guts cut out, so that it resembles an Opera install... But they also have to swap browsers also whenever they encounter page issues. I'd say that the http "standard" isn't quite so...

[mapuc]

I have two browser.

The one I use daily and one I use on occasion.

Skybird wrote:

Explorer: dont cry for it. No other browser got attacked as much as this one. Fail.

Can't say if he's right or not about this statement, I do know however that every FB-friends and other online friends who have been hacked, tried to be hacked or other bad things have or had Chrome-

This made me remember an article I once read in a Computer magasin (while I was waiting at the barbershop)

"Though more a software or similar gets though more the hacker get interested in it, it has to reach about 50.000 or more before the hacker start looking at it with interest"

In the beginning Chrome wasn't that popular or was quite new-Hackers didn't bother to make virus program for this browser-Now everyone is taking about Chrome, everyone is saying a person with his brain in order use Chrome a.s.o.

year maybe-but it also makes the hacker a lot more interested in

That is my conclusion after having talked with my FB-friends and other friends when I ask them-Which browser do you use and they all have said-Chrome.

Markus

[Rockin Robbins]

There's a new Chrome based browser out called Vivaldi (https://vivaldi.com/?lang=en_US). It's a GEM! It's been my primary browser for the last couple of months. Before that I used a Firefox derivative called Waterfox (https://www.waterfoxproject.org/). It's probably the ultimate power user's browser, but Vivaldi is so darned snappy and fresh that it's really compelling. Just what they've done for history display will curl your toenails.

[Skybird]

well firefox works great until you come across certain websites that have some sort of compatibility issues which I assume are somehow cookie related, but if you use one of those websites it goes into endless cookie loading and being blocked issues until it freezes, then you have to reload the page and it happens again. sometimes its not the main page but when you open a forum post is when it does it. its just one or two websites I have issues with but I use those 40% of my online activity so its something of a huge problem for me but I don't know what is so different about those websites software that causes issues

I love using firefox except for this issue but its very similar to the problems explorer has where some pages wont load because of (im assuming) the same loading cookies issues. plus explorer is slow as a turtle

Well, I have a lot of thigns switched off any must activate them per websire again. Active scripts, pop ups, Java, cookies. If website depebd ion cookies, and you do not allow themn, then it is logical that the website doe snot correctly load. On some website, you have to allow compromise, if you realyl want to visit them.

My idea is that thigns should not happen automatically. A pop-up with commercials shoupold not pop up in the firstm, but when it does, it shall not run its script autmatially, since such popups can be malware-infested, and you do not want to havbe malware scripots runnign automatically. So I use browser settigns and addons to have such stuff manually allowed every tikme it happens or I visit a site.

If I do not give certain permissions, sites will not load.

I suspect you have your cookie policies tuned too tight, excluding too much stuff. Try to loosen it a bit - but not with Explorer, but Firefox.

[Skybird]

There's a new Chrome based browser out called Vivaldi (https://vivaldi.com/?lang=en_US). It's a GEM! It's been my primary browser for the last couple of months. Before that I used a Firefox derivative called Waterfox (https://www.waterfoxproject.org/). It's probably the ultimate power user's browser, but Vivaldi is so darned snappy and fresh that it's really compelling. Just what they've done for history display will curl your toenails.
Vivaldi is kind of successor to Opera. Many coders and programmers who worked on Opera, left Opera and now work on Vivaldi.

I read this ^. I do not know the browser, however. I also read that the former opera people in the Vivaldi team left Opera in anger and/or dissappointement. I take from that that Opera has not recovered from its unneeded, intentional fall.

[Skybird]

I have two browser.

The one I use daily and one I use on occasion.

Skybird wrote:

Explorer: dont cry for it. No other browser got attacked as much as this one. Fail.

Can't say if he's right or not about this statement, I do know however that every FB-friends and other online friends who have been hacked, tried to be hacked or other bad things have or had Chrome-

This made me remember an article I once read in a Computer magasin (while I was waiting at the barbershop)

"Though more a software or similar gets though more the hacker get interested in it, it has to reach about 50.000 or more before the hacker start looking at it with interest"

In the beginning Chrome wasn't that popular or was quite new-Hackers didn't bother to make virus program for this browser-Now everyone is taking about Chrome, everyone is saying a person with his brain in order use Chrome a.s.o.

year maybe-but it also makes the hacker a lot more interested in

That is my conclusion after having talked with my FB-friends and other friends when I ask them-Which browser do you use and they all have said-Chrome.

Markus

The more popular a browser or operaiton system is, the more thnakful a target it becomes. Thats why you see a correlation bertween popularity of a software, and the number of attacks on it. You code one malware - and reach many users with it. That was why the older Opera until severla years ago was quite safe, it had no big user base. That also is why Linux does not get attacked as much as Windows, it has a minimal user base in the private user segment. Intially Android was safe, with popularity came the attacks, Now even the webstore by Google is no longer the sterile security zone it once has been.

If you want to reduce the chances of attacks aiming at software you usek, use software that is not popular and not widespread. You get no guarantee, but you push chances in your favour. Thats why I use no stuff by Adobe, Microsoft, no Java, no flashplayer etc.

[Skybird]

I rsearched a bit about Opera. It seems that they reversed over their mistake to no longer have bookmark lists in Opera. They came up with this fantastic (careful, cyncism) idea when they changed their browser engine to Chromium. Three months later half of their user base had disappeared. Since some versions they have brought it back recently, however. I read the browser now is one of the fastest if not the fastest out there, and has some comfort and security features you do not have in other browsers or that they must install via addons, it also comes with by default included popup blocker. Hoiwever, i have no info about privacy, and the thing bases on Chromium (Google). Scepticism is on order.

Maybe its time to give it another look. Its been five years or so since I left it behind. Sounds as if their deep fall has taught them some lessons, and the started to listen to people once again.

Its availabe for Windows, Mac, Android and Linux as well.

[Webster]

Webster, for Windows 7-64, I've got IE11, Firefox (whatever the latest version) and Opera all on the same computers, and all for the same reason. Some sites want and need IE 11 and only IE 11. Others are OK with Firefox, but I use mostly Opera because it is "lighter" in its load size, and faster. However, like all the others, certain web site "techniques" will cause it problems, just like all the others. It used to be that a site might have a logo on the home page that would say "Optimized to work with IE6" or "Opitmized for Firefox" or whatever, but now it's up to the user to figure it out, I guess. If a particular page gives me trouble, I try one of the other browsers. I keep IE 11 as my "default" browser, which is what opens when certain programs (Photoshop LE) open their "Help" page, but it can be a bit inconvenient to always having to answer "Not now" or whatever it is, to the pop-up "This is not your default browser. Do you want to change that?", every time I open one of the other browsers first. My XP boots are no longer allowed on the internet, and I'll pull the wire whenever going into XP, but I had a similar set-up on them. I have two school-age sons, both on Windows 10-64 laptops, and one uses Firefox almost exclusively, the other uses Opera, but they both still have IE whatever the last number was, and that Edge, which is nothing more than IE whatever, with the guts cut out, so that it resembles an Opera install... But they also have to swap browsers also whenever they encounter page issues. I'd say that the http "standard" isn't quite so...

wow, so even if I upgraded to win 10 "against my will" just to get edge in hopes it will give me trouble free browsing, I will still have all this website not working BS?????? what the hell?

I find it simply amazing that with todays tech this is an issue that a browser cant function on any and all websites that you go to.

I just want "1" browser that works trouble free on any website I go to and secondary is it would be nice if it was secure, lastly would be my concerns about the amount of spyware and selling my online activity.

is chrome also going to not work on some websites? as much as I hate google and loath the idea of using it, if it runs trouble free, then I guess I will just have to learn to live with it and its invasiveness.

at the end of the day im just going to be practical and what ever works and does it all "without issues" that's what I will use, even if its not what I "want to use"

[Webster]

Chrome is secure from a malware-related point. No other browsers get patched as often and quickly. The big negative is that Google denies you any privacy with it. Security top, privacy flop. Fail.



can you explain more about the privacy issues with chrome

and does it have the same issues as the others with not working with all websites?

im not going to be running multiple browsers I know that much, my OCD wont allow it

[Rockin Robbins]

can you explain more about the privacy issues with chrome

and does it have the same issues as the others with not working with all websites?

im not going to be running multiple browsers I know that much, my OCD wont allow it

Unlike Microsoft, Google gives you full access to their data mining options, even including the option not to be tracked for targeted ads at all. You will still see ads, they just won't be all about travel to Bermuda just because six months ago you were clickbaited into looking at a site on Bermuda. You can substitute stupider/more embarrassing ads that they inflict you with for months because you ended up somewhere you weren't the least bit interested in once months ago.

You can also retain targeted ads, but cancel your old identifying number and be issued a brand new one if you want. Just look at the difference between a Gmail account and a Hotmail/MSN Mail/somekindaOutlook online e-mail account. The Microsoft ones are infested with all manner of spam, clickbait and scams. Gmail stays clean. Says something about the inherent integrity of the underlying company. Microsoft and Google are NOT equivalent.

Even so, that's one of the reasons I run Vivaldi.

[propbeanie]

... I find it simply amazing that with todays tech this is an issue that a browser cant function on any and all websites that you go to...
they are all out to do the others in, and corner the market for themselves, so that they can sell your info to the highest bidder... that's the cynical me... sorry. :salute:

I'm going to have to check-out that Vivaldi also, RR. I might also sic my boys on it. They're always experimenting with that stuff, and will try to break it, stretch it, bend it, etc. They will put it through its paces fershur ferserttin...

[Webster]

so does google chrome have the same issues with "some" websites freezing up and not loading correctly as the others do?

honestly, just having smooth trouble free browsing that works is my first concern, that is far more important then any privacy issues

[Skybird]

can you explain more about the privacy issues with chrome

and does it have the same issues as the others with not working with all websites?

im not going to be running multiple browsers I know that much, my OCD wont allow it

It does not delete your DNS cache when you delete your browser history. When you use zoom on a website, the zoom function gets logged as welll - with reference to to the website it is used for. So even when you delete your browsing history, your history nevertheless get saved and extracted, linked to your IPN.

There are more issues as well, some may have changed over time, some not, I do not know the specifics that are actual, I just gave two quick shots of what I still have in memory. Also: I know that profiling people is the business model of Google and this data is what they see as their payment, so I will not believe one second that Google does its browser service "fore free". In fact, many people consider the data kraken named Google as worse than that named Microsoft.

When the first versions of Chrome were released years ago, they were so invasive and violating that the German federal office for IT security officially rated Chrome as malware and issued an official warning against the use of Chrome. A first! It was also found that at that time severla switches that gave the user the impression of influencing his privacy settings, indeed were functionless: were dummy switches.

I would not trust a company that starts its browser with practices like this. Like I do not trust Microsoft anymore since its practice with GWX, and then W10. It is pointless to attack Microsoft - but to embrace Google. Reject both, I say.

Also consider that Google combines data it gaisn via Chrome with data it already has abiout you: via gmail, or your smartphone, or your other computer activities, or your G+ account, or - well, where is Google not these days? See my sig. Snowden is very right with that quote.

Before you go with Chrome, I would check Opera and Vivaldi, and make sure that it is not some settings of yours that cause your "problems". Becasue I hjave the same symptoms iover here - but form t he settings I have chosen I expect nothign else but right these symptoms, they confirm to me that I have switched many unwated automatic things off.

I always say: the more comfortable your browsing experience is, the more open and unsecure and privacy-abusing your browser is set up to be. You cannot have both: comfortability, AND privacy/security.

[Rockin Robbins]

From the prime mover at the Vivaldi team:
My friends at Google: it is time to return to not being evil (https://vivaldi.com/blog/google-return-to-not-being-evil/)

Basically, Google shuts off income streams of affiliates who stray from the party line: how that affected Opera before it went to the dark side and how it affected Vivaldi until recently. Jon von Tetzchner was the man responsible for Opera until it went south and now spearheads Vivaldi. This is a very interesting article on the direction of Vivaldi and why it deserves your support.

[Skybird]

A monopoly that leads to the abuse of power - quelle surprise. Isn'T that why monopolists want to build monopolies and increase and defend them? The purpose is to eliminate competition and to bypass the mechnaisms of the free market. Market, and monopolies, are antagonists.

Always.

[Rockin Robbins]

so does google chrome have the same issues with "some" websites freezing up and not loading correctly as the others do?

honestly, just having smooth trouble free browsing that works is my first concern, that is far more important then any privacy issues

The root cause of web sites not working on all browsers is Microsoft, ignoring established worldwide web standards and doing things their own way. When they had a giant share of the browser market, that forced web sites to use non-standard Microsloth ways of doing things, making their websites incompatible with other browsers. This was exactly what Microsoft wanted.

Nowdays, we are still saddled with Microsoft ignoring web standards and websites having to identify which browser you are using and format accordingly. Some web programmers aren't up to speed and do this badly. Some, like Microsoft itself, feed you a message that you must use Internet Exploder or that abortion of theirs that they claim is a "modern browser" and people are just running away from like it was a leper. It is.

[mapuc]

(an off topic memory)

My first browser was Netscape don't know if its correct spelled.

Markus
(end of an off topic memory)

[aanker]

(an off topic memory)

My first browser was Netscape don't know if its correct spelled.

Markus
(end of an off topic memory)
Yes, I too fondly remember Netscape.

I have Win 7 64 bit and have used Firefox for many years without trouble on any website. I think the Mozilla (Mozilla Firefox) browser is descended from the Netscape source code that Mozilla wrote for Netscape.

My Cable TV provider that I hate - I won't mention 'Comcast' cough, cough, by name : ) requires the Adobe Flash Player plugin so I don't go to their site. YouTube videos play just fine without it.

I don't use the Java plugin either and the chess sites that I visit don't require it.

So, I recommend Firefox on Win 7 the OP asked about. I have refused to use IE, the browser Rockin Robbins affectionately calls 'Exploder' for years.

[propbeanie]

Was Netscape the one that could run from the Comman Line, back in Win31 days? I can't remember, but I ~think~ my first forays were with Netscape 3.0... ?? Before that, I'd been doing a C-64 with bbs software. :o

In the meantime, I have been using Vivaldi for a few days now, and I do like it. It is very similar to Opera, but better. Like a cross between Opera and Firefox, only faster and seemingly more stable. No issues thus far. No bad page loads or anything. I don't know about their "security", but I haven't had pop-ups when going to some of the sites that will generate those in Firefox and / or IE11 (both with "pop-up blockers")...

[Rockin Robbins]

Was Netscape the one that could run from the Comman Line, back in Win31 days? I can't remember, but I ~think~ my first forays were with Netscape 3.0... ?? Before that, I'd been doing a C-64 with bbs software. :o

In the meantime, I have been using Vivaldi for a few days now, and I do like it. It is very similar to Opera, but better. Like a cross between Opera and Firefox, only faster and seemingly more stable. No issues thus far. No bad page loads or anything. I don't know about their "security", but I haven't had pop-ups when going to some of the sites that will generate those in Firefox and / or IE11 (both with "pop-up blockers")...
It was Netscape Navigator, the first graphical web browser that changed the world from the text-based Gopher evolution that was the WWW to the absolute killer app we have today. I'll never forget using Netscape Navigator 4.7 I think the version was, to download Pathfinder photos from Mars, taking an hour to download one or two images, marveling that I could go to Microsoft's Terraserver (https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/8q89q4/microsofts-terraserver-was-google-earth-before-there-was-google-earth) to see satellite photos of any spot on the entire planet!

Yes it took 20 minutes to assemble the mosaic to view a page, but the detail from space was breathtaking. I could see my house! Yes, Microsoft scooped Google Earth by ten years and just tossed it all in the garbage, leaving the territory to Google. Surrendered without a fight.

[propbeanie]

Ahhh yeshh, I remember it well... I was actually back in school for about the 4th time, taking computer programming classes, and had a job on the side doing Access db programming, before Microsoft ruined the Jet DB Engine... like it needed any help with that... :har: But one of the fellows in my class was really into the blooming web, and found that site also... "Killer" stuff indeed it was...

I really think Webster should try Vivaldi... I've got it on four different computers, with four different cpu's, RAM configs, etc., I mean, wildly different machines from 1 gig to 8 gig of ram, and I do NOT have any issues whatsoever. Good stuff, like the days of old, and all sorts of ways to set-up the pages and tabs the way you want them... two thumbs up! :yeah:

[Rockin Robbins]

I really think Webster should try Vivaldi... I've got it on four different computers, with four different cpu's, RAM configs, etc., I mean, wildly different machines from 1 gig to 8 gig of ram, and I do NOT have any issues whatsoever. Good stuff, like the days of old, and all sorts of ways to set-up the pages and tabs the way you want them... two thumbs up! :yeah:
My experience also. It works exactly the same in Linux and on Windows. It's fast, attractive, stable as a rock and the side panels are genius, as is their history function. This is the first new thinking in browsers in ten years.

I complained about all the "Windoze 10" square corners and their admins told me now to fix it! The thing is very nicely cusomizable.

But they didn't just load a bucket of crap on the browser. It's lean, doesn't tax your system resources, and fast. I highly recommend it.

[Webster]

Ahhh yeshh, I remember it well... I was actually back in school for about the 4th time, taking computer programming classes, and had a job on the side doing Access db programming, before Microsoft ruined the Jet DB Engine... like it needed any help with that... :har: But one of the fellows in my class was really into the blooming web, and found that site also... "Killer" stuff indeed it was...

I really think Webster should try Vivaldi... I've got it on four different computers, with four different cpu's, RAM configs, etc., I mean, wildly different machines from 1 gig to 8 gig of ram, and I do NOT have any issues whatsoever. Good stuff, like the days of old, and all sorts of ways to set-up the pages and tabs the way you want them... two thumbs up! :yeah:


we use to use netscape and liked as well

if Vivaldi works on everything with no website loading issues then I am going to try it, I will try anything before I use chrome because I want to do nothing that supports google in any way because I am appalled and repulsed by their business practices and politics

that's all I really want first and foremost, security and privacy would be second and 3rd on the priority list, but inconsequential to works on everything with no website loading issues

but I am a bit puzzled if goggle chrome was chromium and vivini was chromium then does this mean vivindi is just a better version of chrome without the spyware and lack of privacy? or are they just google "light" we aren't quite as bad as the other guy type of browser?

[Webster]

Just look at the difference between a Gmail account and a Hotmail/MSN Mail/somekindaOutlook online e-mail account. The Microsoft ones are infested with all manner of spam, clickbait and scams. Gmail stays clean. Says something about the inherent integrity of the underlying company. Microsoft and Google are NOT equivalent.

Even so, that's one of the reasons I run Vivaldi.

I have also been considering a different email account because yahoo has turned into a monster with so much BS and advertising its often made me wonder why I cant get a simple email provider that is just email but I guess that's how they make their money.

sure would be nice if companies would just stop adding more and more features and BS and remember the basic rule of KISS

because yahoo has so much BS going on its always slow and having issues because everything causes conflicts with everything else and even the slightest change causes a needed update and then a ripple effect of everything else needing updates because the whole spider web of BS is interconnected and the not so funny thing is, 99% of the time the problems they have are due to the software for ads and spyware and not the actual mail service itself. its fairly common for it to be having problems causing it t be down for a few hours at least one day a week every week

[mapuc]

(off topic about email account)
Regarding email account

I have two email account the one is free and I use it for spam mails and not so important mails

Then I have one I pay for-Here the lowest you have to pay for is 100 Mb and the highest is 1000 or higher - Can't remember how much you can get.

I pay for 100 Mb

Markus

(End of off topic about email account)

[Webster]

i will be giving vivaldi a try

as i said numberous times, i mainly want

1, 2, & 3 to have trouble free fast browsing


4 & 5 on the list are security and privacy

[Webster]

Vivaldi seems nice so far but when I open something in vivaldi and create a shortcut to desktop, the shortcut created reverts to opening only with explorer even though my default browser is set to vivaldi and i created the shortcut from vivaldi so I cant figure that out.?

i have to assume i am supposed to "only" do all my internet shortcuts from within the open vivindi browser page instead of the desktop by creating those "speed dial" links and not try to open internet links from the desktop like I used to with explorer?

the only trouble with this is i cant name them as i want to name them (must use the web address) and the icons are huge so this will be kinda hard to get used to and my OCD doesnt like that i cant name my shortcut links like i want to

[Rockin Robbins]

Webster, you have Windows 10? You CAN set the default browser for Vivaldi but changing it from a Microsoft product takes an act of Congress and the Control Panel. Even if the option to make your default browser Vivaldi exists in the Vivaldi menus, Windows 10 ignores this. Your choices don't matter to Microsoft. Like I said, you can work around in Control Panel.

Once you get Windows bludgeoned into recognizing Vivaldi as your default web browser desktop shortcuts will automatically open Vivaldi, not that Edge monster thing.

[propbeanie]

I could have sworn that I posted yesterday on here Webster, about some of the settings you asked about... If you have Vivaldi at its "Default" settings still, in the lower left border is a gear wheel. click on that for the settings

1. Startup tab: Set the "Home Page" (upper right) to "Specific Page", and put in what you want.

2. Same tab: Startup with section to "Home Page"

3. Appearance tab: middle of the page is the "Zoom" - set it to what you want.

4. Tabs tab: Set the "New Tab Page" to "Homepage, and new tabs will open to what you start with...

150% zoom is too much on my computer, and I'd have to use about a 135% instead, else I've got all sorts of sites that don't fit on a single page properly... That means that I needs to go out an buy me a new monitor screen mates... Arrrrr - Happy US National Talk Like A Pirate Day!

[Webster]

Webster, you have Windows 10? You CAN set the default browser for Vivaldi but changing it from a Microsoft product takes an act of Congress and the Control Panel. Even if the option to make your default browser Vivaldi exists in the Vivaldi menus, Windows 10 ignores this. Your choices don't matter to Microsoft. Like I said, you can work around in Control Panel.

Once you get Windows bludgeoned into recognizing Vivaldi as your default web browser desktop shortcuts will automatically open Vivaldi, not that Edge monster thing.

no its win 7

doesnt seem to be a way to force acceptance so im trying to get used to opening vivaldi to click my internet links,.

still dont like that though, im used to direct desktop links

its actually slower then explorer 11 but not bad, just not as quick, it doesnt load everything hangup free though :Kaleun_Cheers:

I could have sworn that I posted yesterday on here Webster, about some of the settings you asked about... If you have Vivaldi at its "Default" settings still, in the lower left border is a gear wheel. click on that for the settings

1. Startup tab: Set the "Home Page" (upper right) to "Specific Page", and put in what you want.

2. Same tab: Startup with section to "Home Page"

3. Appearance tab: middle of the page is the "Zoom" - set it to what you want.

4. Tabs tab: Set the "New Tab Page" to "Homepage, and new tabs will open to what you start with...

150% zoom is too much on my computer, and I'd have to use about a 135% instead, else I've got all sorts of sites that don't fit on a single page properly... That means that I needs to go out an buy me a new monitor screen mates... Arrrrr - Happy US National Talk Like A Pirate Day!

thanks, i managed to figure those out, the only issue im having still is, im used to internet shortcuts on my desktop, and now, i have to get used to opening the browser page first, before being able to click the links, and the fact i cant name them (because they must use the web address) bugs the heck out of me

[propbeanie]

I create a web link on the desktop by copying the link first with <Ctrl><C>, then right-click on the desktop, New, Shortcut, then <Ctrl><V> the link into the "Type the location..." box. "Next", then name it on the 2nd page, whatever I want. If you've already got a short-cut, and it's just "http:\\whatever", right-click on the icon, select Properties, use the General tab, and re-name it in the top box of that tab.

The "easiest" way to change which browser opens links, is to use the Windows 7 Start button, and in the right-hand column is "Default Programs". How convenient. I'm suspicious though... :lol: You can get to that from the Control Panel also. Anyway, from that Window, choose the 2nd one down, "Associate a file type or protocol with a program" (I had to open it up and see what it says). On that next "Set Associations" page, you'll have to scroll most of the way down, past the file extensions listed, until you get down to the "Protocols" section, and find the "HTTP" and / or the "HTTPS" listings, with the IE icon to their left. They'll both have "url: Hyper Text Transfer Protocol..." in the middle column, and the "Current Default" in the right-hand column. Select which ever one you're going to change, and then click on the "Change Program" button just above there, on the right. You should get a little pop-up and be able to choose Vivaldi right from there. As soon as you click on the program icon in the pop-up, Windows will go to work and change the setting. The only issue I've found with doing that, is that newer / better / kinder / gentler Microsoft ~knows~ that you really didn't mean to do that association change, so every once in a while, after an update, they'll put it back to Internet Explorer for you. Isn't that nice?... :timeout: - I then go back in and put it the way I want it.

My Vivaldi since yesterday afternoon has had a "hitch" in loading pages, where it will go to like 90% of a load, hang for a second or 2, and then continue. I just thought it was this computer... I'll check into that on one of the other computers I've got Vivaldi installed on... I suspect recent MS updates.

[Webster]

I create a web link on the desktop by copying the link first with <Ctrl><C>, then right-click on the desktop, New, Shortcut, then <Ctrl><V> the link into the "Type the location..." box. "Next", then name it on the 2nd page, whatever I want. If you've already got a short-cut, and it's just "http:\\whatever", right-click on the icon, select Properties, use the General tab, and re-name it in the top box of that tab.

The "easiest" way to change which browser opens links, is to use the Windows 7 Start button, and in the right-hand column is "Default Programs". How convenient. I'm suspicious though... :lol: You can get to that from the Control Panel also. Anyway, from that Window, choose the 2nd one down, "Associate a file type or protocol with a program" (I had to open it up and see what it says). On that next "Set Associations" page, you'll have to scroll most of the way down, past the file extensions listed, until you get down to the "Protocols" section, and find the "HTTP" and / or the "HTTPS" listings, with the IE icon to their left. They'll both have "url: Hyper Text Transfer Protocol..." in the middle column, and the "Current Default" in the right-hand column. Select which ever one you're going to change, and then click on the "Change Program" button just above there, on the right. You should get a little pop-up and be able to choose Vivaldi right from there. As soon as you click on the program icon in the pop-up, Windows will go to work and change the setting. The only issue I've found with doing that, is that newer / better / kinder / gentler Microsoft ~knows~ that you really didn't mean to do that association change, so every once in a while, after an update, they'll put it back to Internet Explorer for you. Isn't that nice?... :timeout: - I then go back in and put it the way I want it.

My Vivaldi since yesterday afternoon has had a "hitch" in loading pages, where it will go to like 90% of a load, hang for a second or 2, and then continue. I just thought it was this computer... I'll check into that on one of the other computers I've got Vivaldi installed on... I suspect recent MS updates.

i will play around with it using your directions and see if it works

mine is also a little slow loading opening web pages after vivaldi did an update yesterday so....

[Webster]

The "easiest" way to change which browser opens links, is to use the Windows 7 Start button, and in the right-hand column is "Default Programs".

ding, ding, ding, ding, we have a winner :Kaleun_Cheers:

even though i did set vivaldi as default browser in internet tools, it wasnt using it to open links outside of an open vivaldi browser window, but when i did it through the start button default programs thing, now all my desktop shortcuts open in vivaldi now without needing to do anything else. i guess those were part of explorer and not the OS so maybe thats why it didnt work until i did it from start menu.


the only thing left is not having the favorites bar and i had a bunch of shortcuts there for things like my internet radio stations and multiple links for organizing groups of links such as money with paypal, credit card, bank, stock account. so i will just have to make a desktop folder for those and do it from the desktop now

[fred8615]

the only thing left is not having the favorites bar and i had a bunch of shortcuts there for things like my internet radio stations and multiple links for organizing groups of links such as money with paypal, credit card, bank, stock account. so i will just have to make a desktop folder for those and do it from the desktop now

Can't you use the Bookmarks Bar (Ctrl+Shift+B)?

I've been using Vivaldi for awhile now and really like it. All it needs is the builtin email and download manager, and it'll be just like Opera 12+, which I loved.

[Rockin Robbins]

Those Vivaldi guys have been doing great work with a too small crew. They'd love to drop the Chromium engine but don't have the manpower to do it yet. Same with other improvements.

Give 'em time. You can't do that much right without attracting a lot of attention. Webster, I'll get back to you on the favorites/bookmarks bar.

[Webster]

Those Vivaldi guys have been doing great work with a too small crew. They'd love to drop the Chromium engine but don't have the manpower to do it yet. Same with other improvements.

Give 'em time. You can't do that much right without attracting a lot of attention. Webster, I'll get back to you on the favorites/bookmarks bar.

ya, it looks good but i dont think they got around to making the favorites bar as user and customization friendly as it should be

daily spyware removed is down from an average of 150 with explorer to only 15-35 now :up:

[Skybird]

such as money with paypal, credit card, bank, stock account.
Red Alert... Red Alert...

I hope you now what you are doing. I did and do such things only from an ultra-tighted machine, especially stock account management and banking. Windows 7 is NOT SAFE anymore. Microsoft has reverse-installed plenty of telemetry and spyware from W10 into W7, and hid that behind misleading patch descriptions or rightout lies, and I assume you did your updates for W7 frequently? If not, your machine by now is a malware paradise. Also for bugs that ordinary scanners would not get triggered by.

In W10, every keytroke gets overwatched and phoned home to Mother. If this ind of telemetry also was put into W7, then every time you log into your accounts for banking and sticks, Micosoft reads your account names and passwords.

Do. Never. Use. Windows/Apple/Google. For. Money. Stuff.

If I ever go back to stocks buying, I would do it via a separated device and virtual network, TOR or something.

[Webster]

Red Alert... Red Alert...

I hope you now what you are doing. I did and do such things only from an ultra-tighted machine, especially stock account management and banking. Windows 7 is NOT SAFE anymore. Microsoft has reverse-installed plenty of telemetry and spyware from W10 into W7, and hid that behind misleading patch descriptions or rightout lies, and I assume you did your updates for W7 frequently? If not, your machine by now is a malware paradise. Also for bugs that ordinary scanners would not get triggered by.

In W10, every keytroke gets overwatched and phoned home to Mother. If this ind of telemetry also was put into W7, then every time you log into your accounts for banking and sticks, Micosoft reads your account names and passwords.

Do. Never. Use. Windows/Apple/Google. For. Money. Stuff.

If I ever go back to stocks buying, I would do it via a separated device and virtual network, TOR or something.

i have updates disabled and even had to uninstall some updates that auto loaded anyway which was causing problems.

i noticed a pattern with microsoft doing nefarious things after they stop supporting an older OS then "suddenly" there are "new" updates several months later and the OS stops working as well. im sure they were disabling things trying to break the OS to slow it down and cause glitches so you buy their new OS.

im as careful as i can be about it :up: