Oh boy, here we go again! Hurricane breathing down my neck

[Onkel Neal]

I have not been paying any attention to the disturbance in the Gulf. I started hear some mention of a tropical storm Harvey that might make landfall late Friday night on the Texas coast. Then it's "Hurricane" Harvey, expected to maybe get to a Cat 1. Whatever.

All right, now there's a steady stream of people on the highway pulling boats and campers from Sargent (the beach town, 9 miles east of me). Oh come on! @*&%#*! Now it's going to be a Cat 3 with 25 inches of rain? :k_confused:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1101&pictureid=9568

Well, I have my preps ready, plenty of water, batteries, and propane. I hope it doesn't make it to full strength they are saying, I am hoping it's weatherman hype.

[Buddahaid]

Good luck.

[August]

Keep your hatches battened down Matey!

[Schroeder]

Best of luck.

[Catfish]

:o looks like an interesting weekend coming.. all the best!

[u crank]

Take care and good luck Neal. :salute:

[Rhodes]

Hang in there and best of luck!:Kaleun_Salute:

[Jimbuna]

Stay safe my friend.

[Mr Quatro]

Get out of dodge Neal or Cougar Trap, Texas I mean ... :yep:

All seven Texas counties on the coast from Corpus Christi to the western end of Galveston Island have ordered the mandatory evacuations of tens of thousands of residents from all low-lying areas.

Voluntary evacuations have been urged for Corpus Christi and for the Bolivar Peninsula, where many homes were washed away by the storm surge of Hurricane Ike in 2008.

What we know about what is expected to be the strongest storm to hit the United States in more than a decade.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/weather/hurricane-harvey-what-we-know/ar-AAqGdAu?ocid=mailsignout

[AVGWarhawk]

Going to be much rain to contend with. Be safe.

[Aktungbby]

Hey! I was in tropical storm Amelia> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Amelia_1978_track.png/220px-Amelia_1978_track.png (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Amelia_1978_track.png) in '78 delivering kitty litter to Wynn-Dixie stores in Houston. The rivets of my freightliner cab were virtual faucets! Throw in two Minn. tornadoes in 1950's childhood-spent in the basement....and my thoughts are with U! Hopin' it dissipates down to a 'tropical storm' on landfall. :Kaleun_Salute:

[Skybird]

Just saw a wind animation of it, and it does not look good, State governor has called in additional federal aid and warns the population that this is becoming a big one. Hunker down, Neal, and keep your head down and safe. I wish you best luck!

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-96.09,26.44,3000

https://www2.pic-upload.de/img/33805633/Unbenannt.jpg (https://www.pic-upload.de)

I watched several taifuns and hurricans on this site in the past years - cannot remember that any of them illustrated such fast rotating eyes (winds at the centre) like this one currently does. Frightening

[AVGWarhawk]

Additional Federal aid is ongoing. Sequin, Denton, Roseland and of course Fort Worth TX(FEMA distribution center) are staged with relief supplies.

[Rockstar]

Batten down the hatches and protect the beer.

Pictures or didnt happen! :D

[STEED]

Relax Neal, forecasters always blow it out of all portion. Stick on a collections of films you like and lots of cold beer will see you though.

[Rockin Robbins]

Prepare for the worst and hope for the best. Seems like yesterday you were digging out from underneath Katrina. Wishing you the best, Neal. It beats an earthquake but hurricanes are not fun, even if you personally don't take any damage. Report in when you can and be safe.

[mookiemookie]

RIG FOR DIVE, OPEN BULKHEAD FLAPPERS AND START VENTILATON

Stay safe, y'all. Best of luck to you, Onkel. :Kaleun_Salute:

[Onkel Neal]

So far, not bad. Lots of rain and a few hours of high winds... but pretty calm now. No electricity for the last 4 hours, so no movies or games.

[mookiemookie]

So far so good on the power front here inside the 610 loop. The real buttpounding is yet to come though.

[August]

How is the Texas fairing?

[razark]

It's a big place. They can't flood us all out at once.

Edit:
Hurricane Harvey made landfall Friday night between Port Aransas and Port O'Connor, Texas, as a Category 4 storm with winds of 130 mph, the National Hurricane Center says.

[Aktungbby]

It beats an earthquake but hurricanes are not fun, even if you personally don't take any damage. actually; having survived '1989's Loma Prieta and two Napa quakes in a decade with foundation and brick chimney damage...I prefer the earthquakes to an out and out hurricane. Two tornadoes in Minnesota were the most dreadful; the first time I, age 6, ever saw fear in adults (mommy) and us kids pronto into the Southwest corner of the cellar as we heard the unmistakable reverberating-throbbing sound of an uber-locomotive in a tunnel bearing down, seemingly on you, in torrential rain with major thunder and lightning...https://media3.giphy.com/media/ZGTw0X0WhitIA/giphy.gif
U can 'stock up' for hurricanes, floods and 'quakes ...tornados are pure demons and escape is by the grace of god alone...and a decent cellar.

[August]

This is why I live in New England where the worst that can happen is we get a bunch of snow. :)

[Skybird]

no movies or games.

Ouch, no wonder they rate this as a cat 3.

[Gerald]

https://www.pixeltopic.com/image/xcbtilacbhknfai/?size=full

[Onkel Neal]

Since I am 100 miles north of the storm center, this was not nearly as bad as Hurricane Ike. Probably not so nice for folks in Corpus Christi and Victoria. Slept most of the night (hot and sticky, though), just a steady howl of wind and some rain. Now, they predict Harvey will loop and head north towards us here and remain a tropical storm dumping a lot of rain--if that happens, life will get complicated. We'll see.

[Catfish]

Good to hear, wishing all the best for the weekend. :salute:
No electricity is bad of course.. no refrigerator, and no subsimming :03:

[Rockin Robbins]

Last night seems like there was a big disconnect between the 130 mph of the storm winds and the wind speed of all the towns on the dirty, west and northwest side of the storm. As the eyewall was coming ashore they were showing 50 mph gusts and lower wind speeds. That is decidedly not typical. The highest winds are usually at the eyewall and northwest, right where those under 50 mph wind speeds were coming from. Very strange.

Unlike my hurricane last year, which was dry with a potent wind punch, looks like this one might be understated wind-wise and drop 30" of rain on everyone. I'll take the wind every time..... Water does A LOT more damage.

[Skybird]

No electricity is bad of course.. no refrigerator,

:o

Cat 3 for not able to play, and I rate it cat 4 that there is no cold beer.

Adds up for a cat 7, in my book. :03:

[Onkel Neal]

:o

Cat 3 for not able to play, and I rate it cat 4 that there is no cold beer.

Adds up for a cat 7, in my book. :03:


:Kaleun_Applaud: Indeed. Just give me juice! I can take the rain.

[Platapus]

Was this a 3 or a 4 when it landed? Getting conflicting news reports on this.

[HW3]

130 mph winds puts it at the top of a cat 3 hurricane chart.

[STEED]

News here reports it has been downgraded to a tropical storm.

[Mr Quatro]

130 mph winds puts it at the top of a cat 3 hurricane chart.

I think they meant 130 mph gust of wind ...

Neal did your ride it out? Wow!

[razark]

8:00 am
http://i.imgur.com/XS4QHJ1.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/LUg77eT.jpg

By 1;00, water was in the garage but not the house, and we left. Walked a block and caught a boat.

The good news is that the creek has begun to drop.

[Gargamel]

Walked a block and caught a boat.



The modern Uber.

[mookiemookie]

Was this a 3 or a 4 when it landed? Getting conflicting news reports on this.

Was a 4, but the problem for Houston was never going to be the hurricane wind and whatnot. It's the rain bands that it keeps pulling from the gulf. It's almost stationary and keeps sweeping more water into the area.

Luckily I'm high and dry at this point. Many folks aren't. :down:

[Mr Quatro]

https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21077745_1674645505934056_909132214006905420_n.jpg ?oh=033d9e63390a632fa21fb9653264d380&oe=5A28A2E3

[Rockstar]

Mind stopping at Omega Burger in Galena Park?

[nikimcbee]

8:00 am
http://i.imgur.com/XS4QHJ1.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/LUg77eT.jpg

By 1;00, water was in the garage but not the house, and we left. Walked a block and caught a boat.

The good news is that the creek has begun to drop.

Can you spot all the alligators?:lurk::gulp:

[nikimcbee]

So far so good on the power front here inside the 610 loop. The real buttpounding is yet to come though.


Good to see you Mookie!:Kaleun_Salute:

[nikimcbee]

Meanwhile, somewhere in Houston......

Mookie has been sighted! Das ist Mookie!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLguQtArm8A

[vienna]

There are no words for this:


https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/hurricane-harvey-nursing-home.jpg?h=580



18P People Rescued From Flooded Assisted Living Facility --

http://www.galvnews.com/news/free/article_e1ffff8e-435d-5c78-ab46-57d6bc7dc6a5.html

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/hurricane-harvey-photo-texas-nursing-home-residents-waist-210704862--abc-news-topstories.html

This should never have happened. Whoever was responsible for the care of these people or those who should have been responsible for their timely evacuation should be held to whatever consequence they deserve... :nope:




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[Aktungbby]

^HEY nobody died! They'll talk about for the rest of their lives!:03: :oops: I know I still am: I Had a near disaster myself. I got summoned forth to San Francisco at 9PM-50 miles- with rain to-beat-the-band and 30+mph cross-winds to match across three major toll-bridges and Corolla's front-drive wheels slipping, even in low torque. For the toll-free return direction, I first called my boat captain who monitors road and weather to inquire about returning the toll free direction across the Golden Gate Bridge, and avoiding the windy Bay Bridge I'd arrived on. The route has been closed for flooding this month for several days. I finally get to a one-lane route at Sonoma around midnight approx 15 mile from my home and am following the vehicle in front, when the road disappears...70 yards of six-inch very brown deep water from a nearby creek and I'm in it! Real sudden-like (Flash really means Flash BBY!) with utterly no chance to turn around; and I can't see the deep ditches on both sides anyhow. (note: flood water/sewage does not smell good at all)With no options: I managed to punch through, creeping in second gear w/o stopping(fatal) and got back onto the dry road. I called the road condition into to 911 and made it home by 00:45. It's till pouring rain as I post and 31 road closures R in effect in Sonoma County today. It's gonna rain all week...there goes my golf game!:wah: :k_confused:

[Skybird]

Oh dear, once the water has gone, the time of the stink begins. My hometown drowned three years ago, the stink was on the streets for weeks and inside buildings for months.

If I were Neal, I would open the house (in case it good flooded, too), let the sun do its magic and go for 3 months holiday somewehre else. :)

[Onkel Neal]

I'm out in the countryside, between Brazoria and Sargent, TX. We got a few hours of strong wind and hard rain Friday, but nothing too severe (thanks to being 130 miles north of the storm).
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1101&pictureid=9576

We did lose electricity, but I have a generator. I went over to a neighbor's house and chainsawed a tree up that was blocking his drive.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1101&pictureid=9579

Sat and Sun we saw occasional hard rains and the area is flooded, but our ranchhouse is on a slight ridge so no danger of water entering. The creek in the back is nearly at its limit but I don't think it can threaten us, unless things go completely crazy.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1101&pictureid=9578

We made a run to town and there are sections of the highway that are covered with fast water. My sister made the same trip later and said it has lessened somewhat, so that's good.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1101&pictureid=9577

Hearing that Bay City is expected to flood completely due to rivers overflowing. I'll be standing by for assistance if I can.

[Skybird]

Looks as if you got off with a slap on the wrist. :up:

For the state of Texas, and the US, it might become much less easy. Air Worldwide, a company specialising in risk model projections, estimates the damages to be 1.2 - 2.3 billion dollars, which is surprisingly low. Analyst company CoreLogic rates the damages much higher, giving numbers as high as 40 billion dollars. NewOrleans-killer Katrina caused damages of around 100 billion dollars, half of which were covered by insurrances.

^ German media write that.

[Mr Quatro]

Snakes have holes and live in the ground can swim and now they will be dropping out of the trees and can be seen on top of mail boxes and fence post and even caught up in the barb wire when the water starts to recede. You can't believe how many snakes Texas has till there is a flood of this magnitude.

I feel so sorry for some of these people ... they look like all they have left are the clothes on their backs.

[Catfish]

God i just saw videos from Houston, in the news. No food for more than 24 hours, the amount of rain has obviously surprised all, and it is raining again.
I had no idea it was that bad, after reading your comments here.
Has that happened before, in the last years? :o

[Kendras]

Batten down the hatches and protect the beer.

Pictures or didnt happen! :D

:har: :har: :har: :har: :har: :har:

Good luck anyway.

[Jimbuna]

I'd go into hiding Neal, I hear Donald is coming to visit :03:

[Onkel Neal]

I'd go into hiding Neal, I hear Donald is coming to visit :03:
I hope they drop him in the water, that hair might suck up a lot of moisture.



God i just saw videos from Houston, in the news. No food for more than 24 hours, the amount of rain has obviously surprised all, and it is raining again.
I had no idea it was that bad, after reading your comments here.
Has that happened before, in the last years? :o

It's bad in beach communities and low lying areas, areas next to rivers, and of course, Houston.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzQGgyrxXiI

[Catfish]

Ouch. A lot of flat area with too few slope for draining those water masses.
So much property and infrastructure destroyed..
Hope you are located high enough, all the best.


(Regarding politicians they tend to fly around in a helicopter, land and let themselves photograph with a spade, before returning asap to their next meal and important press conferences to spluttering of that they take full responsibility and promise to do all to help. And so on.
The important measures are the long term ones, like emergency rescue systems, planning and the people working to help. I won't mention climate change, we all know it's fake news since EPA's chief Pruitt (ex oil) knows it all better).

[razark]

The good news is that the creek has begun to drop.
The creek did not continue to drop.

[Jimbuna]

I hope they drop him in the water, that hair might suck up a lot of moisture.




:haha:

[Skybird]

I hope they drop him in the water, that hair might suck up a lot of moisture.

Dont bet on it. Waterfowls always swim on top, no matter how stinking the brew.

[vienna]

Actually, to be fair, these sorts of disasters are "damned if you do, damned if you don't" sort of situations for Governors or Presidents; if you go into the disaster area, some critics will say the visit is a political grandstanding photo-op and the visitor is in the way of rescue efforts, etc.; if you don't go, then you are uncaring and insensitive, a viewpoint which is magnified if the area in question happens to be under the administration of an opposing party. Personally, given the advances in communication and audio/visual technology, I don't think it is entirely necessary for a Governor or President to actually go into a disaster area unless there is some sort of pressing need that can only be addressed personally, and those are few and rare. Not going does require some stringent oversight of the individuals or agencies overseeing the disaster relief efforts; we all remember how Dubbya was left with a red face when "Brownie" was found not to be doing such "a good job" after all...




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[Mr Quatro]

Not going does require some stringent oversight of the individuals or agencies overseeing the disaster relief efforts; we all remember how Dubbya was left with a red face when "Brownie" was found not to be doing such "a good job" after all...


<O>

That was a classic, "Your doing a great job Brownie" said President Bush after his low fly over of Louisiana in Airforce One after Katrina, but don't forget his father ... didn't the other Bush make a mistake when he ignored the aftermath of another hurricane (forget which one) in Florida that the people were still living in tents for years after wards?

This is one big mess that will take years to partially fix and more money than the US Congress can find in their empty FEMA bank vaults.

Print more paper money? This is no longer Bush or Obama's problem ... it's President Trumps problem and he still has the health care bill and the budget by the end of September to take care of ... oh no there I go again.

I'm off to see the wizard. :haha:

[Skybird]

Actually it is pretty much a "damned cause you did it" thing, pretty much of the mess now may be made man-made. I do not even talk of the climate heating thing, but about something I read this eveniing:

In the twenty years between 1990 and 2010, over 30% of the open areas in and around Houston, have been sealed by tarmac, concrete, buildings, roads. Houston is inviting investements by low taxes and relaxed restrictions on building. Its booming, the demand on building and construction permissions is ver yhugh. The sealing of natural ground no doubt continued after 2010 until today, but their statistics ended in 2010. That may be 40% in total, maybe even more, of the soils of 1990 no longer available for soaking up water, also slowing its travelling speeds.

Add to this what I said above: the warmer temperatures, and consider the physics of Hurricans: what warmth of atmosphere as well as the coean has to do with Hurrikans becoming more or less "wet".

It certainly does not help that Harvey is locked in place by several Highs north of it, staying where it is with his thirsty mouth over the water of the Gulf and his youknowwhat over land. Somewhere all the moisture he soaks up must go. And it goes onto the surface of an environment that got sealed off by around 40+ percent of its surface area in the past 27 years.

"Damned cause you did it."

[Onkel Neal]

Actually it is pretty much a "damned cause you did it" thing, pretty much of the mess now may be made man-made. I do not even talk of the climate heating thing, but about something I read this eveniing:

In the twenty years between 1990 and 2010, over 30% of the open areas in and around Houston, have been sealed by tarmac, concrete, buildings, roads. Houston is inviting investements by low taxes and relaxed restrictions on building. Its booming, the demand on building and construction permissions is ver yhugh. The sealing of natural ground no doubt continued after 2010 until today, but their statistics ended in 2010. That may be 40% in total, maybe even more, of the soils of 1990 no longer available for soaking up water, also slowing its travelling speeds.

Add to this what I said above: the warmer temperatures, and consider the physics of Hurricans: what warmth of atmosphere as well as the coean has to do with Hurrikans becoming more or less "wet".

It certainly does not help that Harvey is locked in place by several Highs north of it, staying where it is with his thirsty mouth over the water of the Gulf and his youknowwhat over land. Somewhere all the moisture he soaks up must go. And it goes onto the surface of an environment that got sealed off by around 40+ percent of its surface area in the past 27 years.

"Damned cause you did it."


I think that is pretty accurate. Houston has outgrown itself.

[August]

Any word yet on how the USS Texas fared in the storm?

[STEED]

Get Donald to build a wall a Hurricane proof wall. :03:

[vienna]

One of the biggest irritants when a disaster happens is the media reporters who seem to be obnoxiously in the face of the very victims while those poor souls are just trying to cope with the situation. A mother in Houston was placed in just such a situation and responded n a most emphatic fashion (caution: strong language):

Mother's furious outburst at CNN reporter for interviewing Harvey evacuees live on air 'during their worst times' --

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4834886/Mother-shouts-interviewer-Houston-shelter-live-TV.html

Houston Mother Tells Off CNN --

http://www.thedailybeast.com/houston-mother-tells-off-cnn-dont-ask-what-the-fck-is-wrong-with-us

I notice the network very quickly moved to cut off the interview; I also noticed the network did not apologize for being self-serving vultures...





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[STEED]

One of the biggest irritants when a disaster happens is the media reporters who seem to be obnoxiously in the face of the very victims while those poor souls are just trying to cope with the situation. A mother in Houston was placed in just such a situation and responded n a most emphatic fashion (caution: strong language):

Mother's furious outburst at CNN reporter for interviewing Harvey evacuees live on air 'during their worst times' --

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4834886/Mother-shouts-interviewer-Houston-shelter-live-TV.html

Houston Mother Tells Off CNN --

http://www.thedailybeast.com/houston-mother-tells-off-cnn-dont-ask-what-the-fck-is-wrong-with-us

I notice the network very quickly moved to cut off the interview; I also noticed the network did not apologize for being self-serving vultures...





<O>

Today's media can be a right royal pain in the arse at times.

[Platapus]

If people are choosing to be interviewed by the media, they should be allowed to be interviewed. The media can't force anyone to talk to them.

A quick no thank you or no comment is all that is needed and the press quickly moves to the next person. The press is not going to waste their time trying to convince one of many ordinary citizens to be interviewed. There are always people willing to be interviewed by the press.

[Eichhörnchen]

Actually, to be fair, these sorts of disasters are "damned if you do, damned if you don't" sort of situations

Speaking of which:

http://www.wideopencountry.com/houston-man-uses-massive-inflatable-dam-save-house/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=partner&utm_term=trancos&utm_campaign=trancos

[Skybird]

No pleasant encounter, but fascinating nevertheless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwCzwHT_9ZM

[vienna]

If people are choosing to be interviewed by the media, they should be allowed to be interviewed. The media can't force anyone to talk to them.

A quick no thank you or no comment is all that is needed and the press quickly moves to the next person. The press is not going to waste their time trying to convince one of many ordinary citizens to be interviewed. There are always people willing to be interviewed by the press.

Don't know how it is around your whereabouts, but I have seen an awful lot of instances where reporters have hounded victims of various sorts of bad experiences rather than go for the "easy" interview. The willing interviewee is quite often not the sought after subject when there is an opportunity for a dramatic "get"; if a reporter sees one person just standing around adapting easily to a situation, that is not news; if a reporter sees another person in emotional distress, well, that makes for good video. It all falls into the old news cliche: "If it bleeds, it leads". When I used to work in downtown LA at the County Civic Center, I would sometimes see the news vans clustered outside the Courthouses, the reporters waiting for whatever sensational scandal or crime du jour case to let out and I'd see them rush to be first to get their interviews, The fastest beeline was made towards the individuals who were the most in distress; they would rush past all the other 'normal' participants and go straight for the drama. Dull and mundane does not make for "good" reporting or the advancement of a reporter's career...

As far as not going after someone who doesn't want to be interviewed, how often have you seen a reporter chase after someone who has explicitly declined to be interviewed or declined comment while being barraged by repeated questions? There have been times when I have seen people being badgered by insensitive reporters and I have wished there where some sort of restriction on their behavior, sort of "If the person says 'No', you must back off and move on"...

As long as I'm on the subject of reporters, there is another pet peeve: reporters who show up at a disaster scene and immediately seem to make it seem they are part of the emergency effort; I'll never forget one scene where there was a massive wildfire and some of the firefighters were coming off the line following being relived by new firefighters; as they came down into the base camp, a reporter, all fresh in his California casual outfit, ran up to the firefighter who was the senior leader of the team, and cheerfully asked "How is our effort to stop the fire going? How are we doing?" The tired and dirty senior firefighter didn't miss the 'our' and 'we' and, with a classic 'looks that kill' glance, gestured to the other tired firefighters and said "We are doing our best and we will be back on line after we rest and eat. I hope you have a nice day." And. with that, he walked away towards his team...




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[HW3]

Reporters can be the worst. Most are only looking for that next big scoop to put in their portfolio to help move them up the network ladder towards the coveted anchor chair.

[Skybird]

Risk analyst company RIT numbers the costs for Harvey now at "minimum 90 billion dollars". - Katrina costed around 100 billion.

[Platapus]

how often have you seen a reporter chase after someone who has explicitly declined to be interviewed or declined comment while being barraged by repeated questions?

An ordinary citizen that is not exclusively tied to the story? Never.

Reporters I have seen want to get the story (any story it seams) the quickest so they can transmit it back to the office in minutes. They want the low hanging fruit and would much rather talk to 5 willing people quickly than try to convince one person.

Especially since getting the facts is not exactly the top priority with some reporters.

Now if there is only one person to interview, then yes, the competition can get quite invasive.

During my time with some NGOs when we were holding one of our events, the reporters had no problems getting people to talk to them. Unfortunately, they often talked to the wrong people so often it was the NGO chasing down the reporter so we can give them the accurate information.

Reporters that don't want to be talked to can be just as rude as citizens who don't want to be talked to. :03:

[Skybird]

Some insurrance companies have numbered the damage now to record maximums of over 170 billion. :doh: That is, so the media say, because a greater area is affected than during Katrina, and this area affected also holds far more industrialised and business areas.

[Platapus]

"Texas officials say they've gotten hundreds of complaints about price gouging and scams in the wake of Hurricane Harvey.

One convenience store in Houston reportedly charged $20 for a gallon of gas, $8.50 for a bottle of water and $99 for a case of water, according to the Texas Attorney General's office.



The state has received 684 complaints in all, according to Kayleigh Lovvorn, a spokeswoman for the office."


People suck

[Mr Quatro]

CNN said the estimated cost is up to 190 billion dollars with 100,000 homes flooded
and over 500,000 cars under water and they are running out of gas in Dallas
and here comes Hurricane Irma already a cat 3 storm at 115 mph, expected to hit land
on 9/11 no less (Atlantic or the Gulf Coast they don't know yet): https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/hurricane-harvey/hurricane-irma-packing-100-mph-winds-it-gains-strength-atlantic-n797791

Packing 115-mph winds and strengthening rapidly, Irma was declared a Category 3 hurricane just before 5 p.m. and was heading west at 12 mph and picking up speed, the National Hurricane Center reported. At the time, it was about 3,000 miles southeast of Miami.

https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2017_35/2139721/170831-irma-black-and-white-ew-1219p_copy_33a62ee78dd5a7c03a596d75a7505ef0.nbcnew s-ux-2880-1000.png

[Onkel Neal]

Yes, it’s a little crazy here right now. First the hurricane, then the unending rains and flooding, and then as the sun came out, the rivers are all overflowing so more flooding.

We got in to work yesterday, got started on catching up, then this morning the town where my office is had a state trooper on the road turning people around. Had to get to the EOC and get this fixed, they allowed us to work today but tomorrow is mandatory evacuation. Yikes, it's really going to hurt business.

[Buddahaid]

It's going to hurt a lot more than business. I don't see any way to build a way around this happening again.

[Mr Quatro]

Hurricane Irma has been strengthening, and they are already warning that if it hits the United States as a high level category 5 storm the devastation would be absolutely unprecedented.



http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Hurricane-Public-Domain.jpg

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/09/01/hurricane-irma-expected-to-strengthen-in-atlantic-ocean-this-weekend.html

http://a57.foxnews.com/media2.foxnews.com/BrightCove/694940094001/2017/09/02/876/493/694940094001_5562354417001_5562346758001-vs.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

One week from this Monday is September 11th ... :hmmm:

[Skybird]

Irma now is officially a cat 5, German media report. On its current course it will hit Cuba and then Florida and/or the coast west of Florida. Since it must not stay on a linear path, it can very well turn and pass Florida left or right.

[Rockstar]

spaghettimodels.com

TropicalTidbits.com

https://youtu.be/l30eClrQtCA

[Mr Quatro]

I don't really understand all of this high's and low's that can steer a hurricane, but this seems to make sense: http://www.mlive.com/weather/index.ssf/2017/09/great_lakes_weather_key_to_hur.html

The weather pattern over the Great Lakes region and northeast U.S. over the next five days will be a big influence of the eventual track of Hurricane Irma.

A deep upper-air low pressure system over the Great Lakes, followed by a strong high pressure system will be the main steering mechanisms for Hurricane Irma.

Timing of placement of these two weather features will dictate whether intense category 5 Hurricane Irma gets pushed eastward and misses the southeast U.S. or gets steered west and plows into the U.S.

http://image.mlive.com/home/mlive-media/width620/img/weather_impact/photo/23359198-mmmain.jpg

Sometimes I just read the first part, but this time I went back and read the entire web page ...

Hurricane Irma is now so strong, the National Hurricane Center issued a "Special Advisory" in between regularly scheduled updates. The National Hurricane Center now forecasts maximum sustained winds increasing to an incredible 178 mph, and maximum gusts to 218 mph.

To compare Hurricane Irma winds to Hurricane Harvey, the storm that flooded parts of Texas had maximum sustained winds around 140 mph.

Currently, there are two differences between Irma and Harvey. Irma looks like it has the potential for higher winds, and more wind damage. However, Irma looks like it may keep moving, which would not bring the catastrophic rainfall amounts that Harvey did.

Stay tuned to this situation very closely. There will likely be significant changes to the forecast track and other details as it gets closer to the U.S.

[Onkel Neal]

If the models I've seen are correct and the eye passes just south of the tip of Florida then this storm will be unbelievable

[Rockstar]

Latest from Mike's and Tropical Tidbits

East / West / Flip / Flop... GFS teasing east coast FL and still very strong and very large. Here is the latest 12z from tropicaltidbits.com. We will get these slight changes each run so can't focus on EXACT landfall spots. EURO trending more west coast. We will see in an hour the latest. The system is so big both sides of the state will get impacts no matter which side it chooses to follow. Still some tracks take Irma over Atlantic waters putting GA/SC/NC and maybe VA still at risk. Irma is 180mph now. A turn is expected near Cuba and close to Florida... but when and how wide the turn are big big questions. New NHC map at 5pm. Latest 11am map touching the Tampa Bay area. Everything you need on Hurricane Irma on my site and APP:


Northbound US1 out of Key West must be bumper to bumper. After Hugo I came to the conclusion don't waste your money buying plywood, generators and the like. Just flee, pack up your car and get the heck out. I live on DELMARVA and I already got bags packed and I'm ready to go.

[Jimbuna]

Daughter will be honeymooning in Jamaica in a fortnights time but everything should have calmed down by then hopefully.

[Mr Quatro]

If Hurricane Irma should hit the USA mainland on 9-11-17 would that be a sign that no one is ready to receive?

David Ray Wilkerson (May 19, 1931 – April 27, 2011)
said these things would happen before Jesus comes back, but all prophecy is subject to another prophet. I am not a prophet just a believer ...

If you think this hurricane is just a coincidence then don't worry ... we are not to worry anyway, but this man sure convinces me that something it going on:

Just listen to the first 3 and 1/2 minutes if you don't want to listen to the entire vision

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMfxyVvYuws

[Mr Quatro]

Hurricane Harvey, Hurricane Irma and now here comes Jose: http://abcnews.go.com/International/hurricane-irma-strengthens-closes-caribbean/story?id=49608171

Meanwhile, Tropical Storm Jose has formed over the open Atlantic, following closely behind Irma, the NHC said Tuesday.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/noaa-hurricane-irma-storm-jose-ht-jc-170905_3x2_992.jpg

[Skybird]

Daughter will be honeymooning in Jamaica in a fortnights time but everything should have calmed down by then hopefully.

Nature is nothing to foolishly place bets against. Hope is no strategy.

[Skybird]

If Hurricane Irma should hit the USA mainland on 9-11-17 would that be a sign that no one is ready to receive?

David Ray Wilkerson (May 19, 1931 – April 27, 2011)
said these things would happen before Jesus comes back, but all prophecy is subject to another prophet. I am not a prophet just a believer ...

If you think this hurricane is just a coincidence then don't worry ... we are not to worry anyway, but this man sure convinces me that something it going on:

Just listen to the first 3 and 1/2 minutes if you don't want to listen to the entire vision

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMfxyVvYuws

I took the bait, the first five minutes. It does not need to have "visions" to see famine and war and natural desasters growing in frequency and intensity if you do this and that to nature, and continue to do it, and if you implement these and those policies and ideologies and social engineering experiments and econimic strategies. No, Mr. Wilkerson, "supernatural powers are not at work" here - just natural laws, and man placing bets against them. No surprise who the winner will be.

[Rockstar]

I can't believe you took the bait. Everybody knows Jesus left Chicago and he's bound for New Orleans.

[August]

I can't believe you took the bait. Everybody knows Jesus left Chicago and he's bound for New Orleans.

That's right. The three men I admire most, the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, they took the last train for the coast.

[Rockstar]

Tuesday evening 11PM EST report

I see no use Trying To Reason With Hurricane Season.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFW2B5Og5yM&feature=youtu.be

[Onkel Neal]

Irma from space
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJAZFp-WAAASbhm.jpg

[Mr Quatro]

That would make a great desktop ... :up:

hope you can get one at night with all of the lights in the big cities and the dark places in the rural areas. :yep:

[Gerald]

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico - Hurricane Irma howled past Puerto Rico after thrashing several smaller Caribbean islands with roof-ripping winds, drenching rains and pounding surf on a collision course with Florida.

http://live.reuters.com/Event/Live_Hurricane_Irma

Nooo not again.:timeout:

Edit: Do try to keep up, there are already numerous references to Irma on this thread, we don't need another. TIA

[Jimbuna]

Nature is nothing to foolishly place bets against. Hope is no strategy.

Catch 22 Sky, the honeymoon was booked over eight months ago so you pays your money and takes your chance although holiday insurance will undoubtedly cover such events.

Reminds me of 2008 when Hurrican Ike hit Texas just a few weeks prior to the SubSim Meet.

[Skybird]

Catch 22 Sky, the honeymoon was booked over eight months ago so you pays your money and takes your chance although holiday insurance will undoubtedly cover such events.

Reminds me of 2008 when Hurrican Ike hit Texas just a few weeks prior to the SubSim Meet.
They say that Bunas always float on top.

[Jimbuna]

They say that Bunas always float on top.

Yes, Correct, the cream always floats to the top :smug:

:D:03:

[Reece]

Oh brother!!!:doh:

[Skybird]

Meteo France says that Irma is the most energetic and intensive Hurricane that was ever monitored in the history of weather recordings. Never before has a Hurricane rotated with speeds of cat 5 for 33 hours. And that was 26 hours ago - yesterday. And Irma brings her family with her. Say Hello to José and Katia.

[Jimbuna]

Just came from a conversation with Neal two minutes ago and he is safe and soldiering on :cool:

[Mr Quatro]

How about this? Subsim on the 7th page link on google search :up:

https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZislfmVP7SJ5aQJp_1thMx9_1ZTKgot NclqgoRNTuFN3V8x2GZnojnM7gcFybePl0BKPZTnNSX4N1M9NY 5m1wFgEGW-xzMIlGUYimMcf5Od4lmWqzxBXxZehRpFueAtUIbrUMHdd0Vbpn-37ktjJPwhJiodbPdUkeWmsb4MnoydxKZW8gGJk6ZTzqfVs-6KdooCLdxjue8vyeGDTxdrxR19sfSod97Tg3-S-9DDNC4Yy6QXp2Db2N6gsk5Y6l25twKF8EHsbVSnELFM9b515b-h3LmOd4SXQbRAZLT2wddG2e1HzB3vFWSmu1PhvArIgHUSvCzDQ qwhkbsv28qIfB4f2CbnXXC_1g

Oh boy, here we go again! Hurricane Harvey breathing down my neck ...

www.subsim.com › ... › General › General Topics
1 day ago - 2 posts - ‎2 authors
760 × 741 - Oh boy, here we go again! Hurricane Harvey breathing down my neck General Topics.

[Catfish]

I hope Neal and all others in the region affected will get by without problems :o

[Mr Quatro]

Irma on the way to Florida and Jose right behind her and I think another one is forming already, plus the one in the Gulf of Mexico

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/gglcontent/natl.gif

[Platapus]

I am cat sitting for some very unwise friends of mine. They are flying down to Disney World on Friday to spend the week at the park.

They don't seem to be worried, but I think their trip is ill timed. She told me that they may have to spend a day or two in the hotel but the rest of the week should be OK.

Yikes!

[razark]

I hope Neal and all others in the region affected will get by without problems :o
I had hoped that, too. :(

(Typed from my mother-in-law's house, the day after finishing moving everything I own on to the lawn or into a storage unit.)

[STEED]

Hurricane Irma has claimed at least 10 lives and caused "unprecedented carnage" in the Caribbean - and storm Jose is gathering pace as it is upgraded to a category three hurricane. http://news.sky.com/story/hurricane-irma-causing-unprecedented-carnage-to-caribbean-islands-11024297

Cripes you guys in this region are really getting a hammering. :eek:

[Gerald]

http://news.sky.com/story/hurricane-irma-causing-unprecedented-carnage-to-caribbean-islands-11024297

Cripes you guys in this region are really getting a hammering. :eek: See post 93.:up:

[Onkel Neal]

I am cat sitting for some very unwise friends of mine. They are flying down to Disney World on Friday to spend the week at the park.

They don't seem to be worried, but I think their trip is ill timed. She told me that they may have to spend a day or two in the hotel but the rest of the week should be OK.

Yikes!

Oh man, tomorrow? Seriously? Really bad idea.

I hope Neal and all others in the region affected will get by without problems :o

Thanks. Texas Gulf Coast is not affected by Irma, and the rivers are finally starting to go down. I was able to take my normal route home from work tonight, saved me 45 minutes of driving time.

Man, Florida is going to be hit hard.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/this-storm-has-the-potential-to-catastrophically-devastate-our-state/2017/09/07/3fedb8f2-93ff-11e7-89fa-bb822a46da5b_story.html?utm_term=.795f89f2245a

[Skybird]

You American hurricanehunters really mean no half business this year, eh? :O:

Stay save, Neal.

[fireftr18]

I have a few fire dept friends that retired and moved to Florida. They're riding it out. I also have a cousin who is a TV news person in Florida. They have him Tallahasse right now. He's was reporting on preparation and evacuation. Now he is supposed to report on recovery efforts.
Yes, I am concerned.

[Gerald]

Update:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-storm-irma/hurricane-irma-strengthens-tears-into-cubas-northern-coast-idUSKCN1BG0KL

[Gerald]

https://i.imgur.com/A3Keac7.png
The number of people killed by a powerful earthquake off the southern coast of Mexico has risen to at least 61, officials say.
A huge rescue operation is under way in the worst-hit states of Tabasco, Oaxaca and Chiapas where people are feared trapped under rubble.
President Enrique Peña Nieto says at least 200 people have been injured.
The 8.1-magnitude quake, which hit late on Thursday, was the strongest to hit the region in a century.
President Peña Nieto has declared a day of mourning, saying flags would fly at half mast out of respect for the dead and bereaved.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-41209243

Nature personified as a creative and controlling force.

[Jimbuna]

I have a few fire dept friends that retired and moved to Florida. They're riding it out. I also have a cousin who is a TV news person in Florida. They have him Tallahasse right now. He's was reporting on preparation and evacuation. Now he is supposed to report on recovery efforts.
Yes, I am concerned.

I have two relatives who live in Florida and yes, I have similar concerns.

[Onkel Neal]

I think as long as I could evacuate to a strong, high structure 30+ miles from the coast I could ride this out, but not any closer.


Live stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGD1byu7gJc

[Rockin Robbins]

Well, I'm in DeLand, FL and everybody is relieved that the storm track has been shifted a little west. However, they misread the NHS map. Each 12 hour separated position forecast is surrounded by a circle. That circle represents the error envelope of their prediction.

Yes, there is a probability that the storm will be in the center of that circle, maybe not quite 50%. But there is a 50% or higher probability that the center of the storm will be somewhere else inside that circle! People get so fixated on the cute little hurricane icon in the center of the circle, that they forget that the prediction is REALLY saying that the center of Hurricane Irma could come by 50 miles out to sea in the Gulf, but there is an equal probability of it being within 10 miles of DeLand. The actual prediction is that at that time the center of Irma will be somewhere inside that circle.

https://image.ibb.co/ccWSGv/Capture.jpg

So we're NOT in the clear. My theory is that putting plywood over all my windows will just terrify the storm with my awesome prepairedness and keep it further away. But theories are disproven every day.:up:

[Mr Quatro]

Yes, Irma has shifted to the west and it has also be downgraded to a Cat 3 storm, but that doesn't matter. The wind speed will pick up as it nears the Florida Keys and the 90 degree waters will cause it to strengthen.

The real danger all along has been the flooding not the wind speed ... with a 10' storm surge at high tide will still be a very dangerous situation for the west coast tip of Florida and even on up to Tampa Bay.

The good news is that the other storm Jose is headed out to sea in the Atlantic. They say this is the first time in weather history that two 150 mph storms have been in the Atlantic at the same time.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/gglcontent/natl.gif

[Rockin Robbins]

The Gulf of Mexico, full of shallow sun-warmed water, has the same effect on hurricanes as tossing gasoline on a fire. We better hope the storm tends away from the shoreline and stays mostly over land.

[Mr Quatro]

I think as long as I could evacuate to a strong, high structure 30+ miles from the coast I could ride this out, but not any closer.


Live stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGD1byu7gJc

Thanks Neal this is cool ... I didn't see the words live stream till I went there. Now we can listen to music on youtube and watch the hurricane at the same time on subsim.

I hope no one looses their life over wanting to stay :o

Here's another live stream in Key West:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYEXQdUFha8

[mapuc]

About 5 minutes ago I saw the weather forecast for Denmark, they had also something about IRMA and they made a comparison between IRMA and Katrina from 1992.

When I saw IRMA was about 2-3 times bigger in width than Katrina, a question popped up in my head

Wonder when they will add an additional number to this hurricane scale ?

It's not an if, but more when this will happen, when we hear the news and they say-it has been upgraded to 6.

Markus

[Buddahaid]

No point in adding another number really. It would be like going to plaid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP6DXoNKITc

[Buddahaid]

Both live cameras from the Florida keys are down so the power must be out. Everyone be safe.

[Jimbuna]

Stay safe everyone...

[Skybird]

Irma has shifted her course westward. It seems she will kiss not the Atlantic coast, but the Gulf coast again? The eye currently is at vector 225° from Florida's southern tip, precisely keeping its centre over the water between Florida and Cuba. I think it is the borderline between eye and outer activity zones where most water gets soaked up?! If so, Irma is not set to weaken any time soon. And Texas may get wet feet again.

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-85.74,26.85,2194

[Mr Quatro]

Irma made landfall precisely at 9:10am on 9-10-17 in the Florida Keys

The storm made landfall at Cudjoe Key in the lower Florida Keys at 9:10 am ET

[Aktungbby]

http://www.newser.com/story/248426/people-fled-irma-left-dogs-tied-up.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=earthlink&utm_campaign=rss_topnews (http://www.newser.com/story/248426/people-fled-irma-left-dogs-tied-up.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=earthlink&utm_campaign=rss_topnews) As Floridians fled the wrath of Hurricane Irma, scores left behind man's best friend—some of them tied up, in pens, or in fenced yards, reports the Sun Sentinel (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/weather/hurricane/fl-pn-lost-animals-20170909-story.html).

[Jimbuna]

Those owners who surrendered nearly 60 dogs and cats shouldn't show up looking to get them back after the storm passes, says the director of Palm Beach County Animal Care and Control. "We are pretty clear when you surrender your animal you give up your rights," she says.

Couldn't have put it better.

[STEED]

Couple of guys on Sky News are enjoying it as they face the Irma at home! :huh:

[fireftr18]

No point in adding another number really. It would be like going to plaid.

I guess you're saying adding another number is ludicrous.
:Kaleun_Wink:

[Mr Quatro]

I guess it's over ... all the excitement is gone. The eye was really something to see as it passed over South Florida.

I ate so many munchies watching the hurricane
I have to go on diet now :D

[Rockin Robbins]

The storm is not even started for most Floridians. My prime time will be between 6 am and noon tomorrow, sitting in the NE quadrant of the storm. I've already had three tornado watches and warnings and expect more throughout the night. I predict that Cedar Key will be decimated and nobody is even talking about that. The entire area of Florida up the Gulf coast is sloped so gradually that a three foot raise in sea level would alter the shoreline by a mile. Especially vulnerable is Cedar Key to Perry.

But in fact, ignorant people are saying that Irma was the "fake storm." It's clear they have no experience with hurricanes. Let your guard down and you die. This is no game and Irma's bag of tricks is not empty. It's barely begun. It looks to be over 86 degree water again soon, and that will have the same effect as gasoline has on a fire. I know how to deal with hurricanes and would rather deal with them than earthquakes. But I'm not going to be stupid enough to pronounce one "over" before it's gone.

[Aktungbby]

This is no game and Irma's bag of tricks is not empty.
Some new tricks:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2017/09/09/hurricane-irma-is-literally-sucking-the-water-away-from-shorelines/?utm_term=.03424192ca13 As a meteorologist, there are things you learn in textbooks that you may never see in person. You know they happen theoretically, but the chances of seeing the most extraordinary weather phenomena are slim to none.
This is one of those things — a hurricane strong enough to change the shape of an ocean.
“This is Long Island, Bahamas and the ocean water is missing!!!”
Hurricane Irma’s winds are so strong, it’s pulling water away from the shoreline. It happened in the Bahamas on Friday and Saturday, and now it’s happening on the Gulf Coast of Florida on Sunday.
In any case, the missing water isn’t the sign of a tsunami. The water returned to Long Island on Saturday. On the Florida Gulf Coast, it will be back after the center of the storm passes north of the location.
The best advice is to not venture out onto the dry seabed. You don’t want to be there when the water returns (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/2017/live-updates/weather/hurricane-irma-a-monster-storms-devastating-path/people-warned-move-away-from-the-water/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_liveblog-950a%3Aprime-time%2Fpromo&utm_term=.39654c4c1792).

[eddie]

Heard today, that parts of Florida's west coast will be at high tide when the storm surge hits, that is going to be a hell of a lot of water coming ashore.

[Skybird]

Heard today, that parts of Florida's west coast will be at high tide when the storm surge hits, that is going to be a hell of a lot of water coming ashore.
Prepare plenty of crocoburgers then, and store them in the fridge. :up: Or filled snake necks, with a dip. :D

[Skybird]

The storm is not even started for most Floridians. My prime time will be between 6 am and noon tomorrow, sitting in the NE quadrant of the storm. I've already had three tornado watches and warnings and expect more throughout the night. I predict that Cedar Key will be decimated and nobody is even talking about that. The entire area of Florida up the Gulf coast is sloped so gradually that a three foot raise in sea level would alter the shoreline by a mile. Especially vulnerable is Cedar Key to Perry.

But in fact, ignorant people are saying that Irma was the "fake storm." It's clear they have no experience with hurricanes. Let your guard down and you die. This is no game and Irma's bag of tricks is not empty. It's barely begun. It looks to be over 86 degree water again soon, and that will have the same effect as gasoline has on a fire. I know how to deal with hurricanes and would rather deal with them than earthquakes. But I'm not going to be stupid enough to pronounce one "over" before it's gone.
May the power of Linux be with you. :up:

[Catfish]

What does Trump's "Hurricane response team" say? "Hello again"? :hmmm:

To be fair no one can exactly predict or prevent hurricanes. On the other hand i do not think that mankind's meddling with CO2 will better the situations for decades to come.

[STEED]

Hurricane Irma wrecks Sir Richard Branson's Necker Island homehttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41224243



Don't panic Branson, Jim is going to send you a nice cold beer by 1st class air mail.

[mapuc]

This is about law and law during a state who's in a state of emergency.

On Danish news they have said some have been arrested for stealing

Is the law against stealing and other criminal act, harder when a state is in a state of emergency ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

This is about law and law during a state who's in a state of emergency.

On Danish news they have said some have been arrested for stealing

Is the law against stealing and other criminal act, harder when a state is in a state of emergency ?

Markus

Can't speak for the US criminal system but here in the UK it usually comes with a tariff of between one and four years imprisonment.

[Aktungbby]

Can't speak for the US criminal system but here in the UK it usually comes with a tariff of between one and four years imprisonment.

Northhumbrians are too kind!:D http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/napavalleyregister.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/7/8e/78ea8a5d-4718-5c2e-b67b-ecdda9b83a66/55f8b43e2f829.image.jpg

[STEED]

^How rude! :o

[mapuc]

“During each hurricane season, there always appear suggestions that one should simply use nuclear weapons to try and destroy the storms,”

http://www.iflscience.com/environment/public-scientists-why-cant-nuke-hurricanes/

Markus

[fireftr18]

I am happy to announce that I have heard from all of my Florida people, and all are safe and sound.
:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

[Jimbuna]

Nice one, the wifes cousin and his wife and family are also safe.

[STEED]

Meanwhile here in the UK..

Storm Aileen set to bring strong winds to parts of the UKhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41241014



Batten down the hatches folks.


I got recycle bin day tomorrow, bet a few bins will be blown open making a mess every where.

Of course this is nothing to what you folks have and going though over the pond.

[Aktungbby]

https://www.edgarcayce.org/the-readings/ancient-mysteries/earth-changes/earth-changes-cyclones-quakes-tsunamis/ (https://www.edgarcayce.org/the-readings/ancient-mysteries/earth-changes/earth-changes-cyclones-quakes-tsunamis/) In one reading, Cayce stated that none of the physical devastation he predicted has to happen. The stability of the planet lies in humanity’s collective hands. Cayce also confirmed the biblical axiom that 10 good people can save an entire city. This brings to mind an old story told by the editor of Guideposts magazine. :hmmm:

[Mr Quatro]

https://www.edgarcayce.org/the-readings/ancient-mysteries/earth-changes/earth-changes-cyclones-quakes-tsunamis/ (https://www.edgarcayce.org/the-readings/ancient-mysteries/earth-changes/earth-changes-cyclones-quakes-tsunamis/) :hmmm:

I can't believe you brought this subject up all by yourself ... Back when I was a baby Christian I read all about Edgar Cayce and then eveyone in the church let me have it that he was a crack pot, but I could never drop the fact that many of the projected thoughts of this man were while he was in a trance, a sleep mode if you will. Edgar prophesied that the north pole and the south pole would change with each other. Many said that he was a false prophet due to the fact that didn't happen when he said it would, but in reviewing many of his projected thoughts Edgar didn't say it would happen in the mid-1990's ... instead he said that it would begin to happen in the mid-1990's.

That is truly when it began with El Nino, a small warm spot in the Pacific Ocean causing all of this strange weather. I am too busy to debate the subject right now for I am in the middle of a computer up grade from one that crashed to another one I had sitting here on the bench.

But I will leave you with this thought the changing of the north and south pole has happened before and it could take up to 1,000 years to complete while causing all kinds of mayhem in earth quakes, typhoons, hurricanes and famine and drought and of course modern communications are in jeopardy. I'll leave God out of it for right now, but you can see where I am going ... I still think Edgar was on to something who died in 1945 by the way and made these projected thought prophecies a long time ago.

A wacko who just happens to be right is not a wacko :o

[AVGWarhawk]

Selma AL 9/12. FEMA relief. These are three rows of tractor/trailers. Needless to say we have been busy.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e182/Warhawk1-avg/File_000_zpshfi8eua6.jpeg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e182/Warhawk1-avg/File_001_zpshqnxx983.jpeg

[Aktungbby]

I can't believe you brought this subject up all by yourself ... A wacko who just happens to be right is not a wacko :o I agree completely and when posting at :subsim:...
I'm always in a trance! :Kaleun_Sleep::yep: pssst! THAT'S eL niño

[August]

A bit off topic but about the concept of pole reversal causing natural disasters according to NASA:

https://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012-poleReversal.html

Scientists understand that Earth's magnetic field has flipped its polarity many times over the millennia. In other words, if you were alive about 800,000 years ago, and facing what we call north with a magnetic compass in your hand, the needle would point to 'south.' This is because a magnetic compass is calibrated based on Earth's poles. The N-S markings of a compass would be 180 degrees wrong if the polarity of today's magnetic field were reversed. Many doomsday theorists have tried to take this natural geological occurrence and suggest it could lead to Earth's destruction. But would there be any dramatic effects? The answer, from the geologic and fossil records we have from hundreds of past magnetic polarity reversals, seems to be 'no.'

Reversals are the rule, not the exception. Earth has settled in the last 20 million years into a pattern of a pole reversal about every 200,000 to 300,000 years, although it has been more than twice that long since the last reversal. A reversal happens over hundreds or thousands of years, and it is not exactly a clean back flip. Magnetic fields morph and push and pull at one another, with multiple poles emerging at odd latitudes throughout the process. Scientists estimate reversals have happened at least hundreds of times over the past three billion years. And while reversals have happened more frequently in "recent" years, when dinosaurs walked Earth a reversal was more likely to happen only about every one million years.

Sediment cores taken from deep ocean floors can tell scientists about magnetic polarity shifts, providing a direct link between magnetic field activity and the fossil record. The Earth's magnetic field determines the magnetization of lava as it is laid down on the ocean floor on either side of the Mid-Atlantic Rift where the North American and European continental plates are spreading apart. As the lava solidifies, it creates a record of the orientation of past magnetic fields much like a tape recorder records sound. The last time that Earth's poles flipped in a major reversal was about 780,000 years ago, in what scientists call the Brunhes-Matuyama reversal. The fossil record shows no drastic changes in plant or animal life. Deep ocean sediment cores from this period also indicate no changes in glacial activity, based on the amount of oxygen isotopes in the cores. This is also proof that a polarity reversal would not affect the rotation axis of Earth, as the planet's rotation axis tilt has a significant effect on climate and glaciation and any change would be evident in the glacial record.

[Mr Quatro]

A bit off topic but about the concept of pole reversal causing natural disasters according to NASA:

https://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012-poleReversal.html

Thank you August ... that settles that ... we still have 220,000 years left to go before the next one million year mark. I feel a lot more comfortable now.

Back to Hurricane Irma as I sit here with my air conditioning, plumbing with fresh water, plus bottled water along with a freezer full of food with plenty of electricity to run my microwave ... I feel a little guilty and sorry for all all of those people in the Islands of the Caribbean and the Florida Keys and of course mainland Florida that don't have these things.

I wonder how many are still in shelters in Houston that don't have a home to go home to?

We are blessed not to have those problems, agree?

[August]

We are blessed not to have those problems, agree?

Definitely. :yep:

[mapuc]

Earlier I was wondering if they would add 6 to this 5 scale they use.

Now I got the answer why this will not be the case.

Why is Category 5 left as the upper, unbounded section?
According to Robert Simpson, one of the brainchildren behind the SSHWS, the reason that Category 5 has no successor is that the scale is meant to infer the damage a hurricane would cause to human infrastructure. Almost any building experiencing sustained Category 5 winds simply won’t survive

http://www.iflscience.com/environment/how-powerful-can-a-hurricane-get/

Markus

[fireftr18]

Just thought this needed to be posted.

:Kaleun_Cheers:

https://youtu.be/v-n605Bch9g

[Jimbuna]

^ This video is not available :hmmm:

[Rockin Robbins]

We're not normal here in Daytona Beach.
https://image.ibb.co/byJJeQ/alice_flood_pic.jpg

Taken from my sister-in-law's condo. We have about four miles of riverfront that are under water two or three blocks in from the riverbank. I'm working on three computers now that went for a swim in salt water. They could be basket cases.

At my home in DeLand, Duke Energy says they'll have me back in power by Sunday midnight. Then they'll hit me with about a thousand dollar repair fee so they can run their fragile broken system at a profit and repair it at a profit too. They should be prohibited from charging customers to fix it and then we'd have something better than a third world electrical system overnight. But it's not going to happen until breakdowns cost them money. Now breakdowns are a profit center.

If power outages cost them money, we'd have a first-rate, resilient power system over night.

[Mr Quatro]

Then they'll hit me with about a thousand dollar repair fee so they can run their fragile broken system at a profit and repair it at a profit too. They should be prohibited from charging customers to fix it and then we'd have something better than a third world electrical system overnight. But it's not going to happen until breakdowns cost them money. Now breakdowns are a profit center.

If power outages cost them money, we'd have a first-rate, resilient power system over night.

Thanks for the update and of course we never hear about these things happening on CNN ... that is horrible that they would charge to get you back up and running. Just think of all the people that can't afford to pay these highway robbers and have their homes taken away form them with a court order.

A class action lawsuit might be in order :yep:

[Aktungbby]

After the photo of seniors sitting in a flooded Houston care facility; this: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/13/us/nursing-home-deaths-florida.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/13/us/nursing-home-deaths-florida.html)

[Platapus]

But it's not going to happen until breakdowns cost them money. Now breakdowns are a profit center.

If power outages cost them money, we'd have a first-rate, resilient power system over night.

Sadly, we can't expect corporations to make these decisions unless it affects profit.

[Buddahaid]

They're charging you for the hook up from the pole to your house no doubt.

[Rockin Robbins]

Supposedly they take the repair costs (plus......) and divide them by the number of customers and voila! $1,000 please.

[fireftr18]

^ This video is not available :hmmm:
I just tested it again and it worked for me. I don't know what to say. It might be something to do with international borders, or different copyright laws. Sorry about that.
:k_confused:

[Mr Quatro]

Supposedly they take the repair costs (plus......) and divide them by the number of customers and voila! $1,000 please.

I'm sure your telling the truth RR, but I did a search on Bing and only find this ...

The Latest: Power slowly returning; millions still without
By By The Associated Press

4:40 p.m.

Millions in Florida remain without power but the lights are continuing to come on across the state.

Florida officials and utilities report Thursday afternoon that 2.31 million homes and businesses are still without power. The total number of people who remain without electricity at those homes and business is larger.

In the immediate aftermath of the storm, roughly 65 percent of all homes and businesses in the state were in the dark. That has dropped to 22 percent.

Florida Power & Light, the state's largest utility, has said it plans to have east coast customers restored by Sunday. But FPL said it will take until Sept. 22 to restore power to the battered areas in southwest Florida.

[Jimbuna]

I just tested it again and it worked for me. I don't know what to say. It might be something to do with international borders, or different copyright laws. Sorry about that.
:k_confused:

No problem matey, these things can happen from time to time.

[Mr Quatro]

Josie back as a Cat 1:

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2017/09/15/jose-sat3_wide-12fe8626356f304f33af864a046664aee079ae4a-s1600-c85.jpg

plus another storm is forming in the Atlantic no name yet

Elsewhere, a new tropical depression formed far out over the Atlantic and is expected to become a tropical storm.
The National Hurricane Center said the depression’s maximum sustained winds are near 35 mph and it is forecast to strengthen
to a tropical storm later on Friday or on Saturday.

[Rockin Robbins]

Well, that one is Jose, a hurricane bound for New England.

I finally got my power back today, six days after hurricane day Sunday. I've been far enough out of touch I have no idea what irma did to Cedar Key.

I do know it did a crazy Ivan and tore right toward Orlando after it passed Tampa. Prominent weathermen didn't interpret the move for what it was, just a big wobble for a big storm and changed their forecast, sending to Jacksonville. Of course it was only a wobble, as storms do and big storms like Irma have big wobbles. It wobbled back to its original course and continued on track as forecast after making fools of the local weather experts. Hurricanes are good at that.

As a result, Orlando and DeLand received winds between 90 and 110 mph for most of the day. Talk about loud, the howling alone could kill. I tracked the storm without power or internet (lost power a full 10 hours before the storm really affected me) I tracked the storm by wind direction. Lay a try square along the wind direction and the right angle beam points to the center of the storm. So if the wind is going south to north, the storm bears west of you. When the wind backed around toward the west, I knew it was headed north.

Then I waited in perfect weather six days for Duke Energy to turn the power back on. Waiting for the other shoe to drop to see how much they will charge us for having a lousy infastructure which has had no progress in sixty years, which breaks whenever someone says "wind" in a loud voice.

[Mr Quatro]

Hurricane Maria Cat 3 on the way to who knows where ... I hope it doesn't hit the same places twice. They say there have never been two major hurricanes in the Caribbean in the same year.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/maria-grows-to-a-cat-3-nears-already-battered-caribbean/ar-AAs6sKy?li=BBnb7Kz&OCID=CALHeader

The storm was on a path that would take it near many of the islands already wrecked by Hurricane Irma and then on toward Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic. Maria could hit Puerto Rico on Wednesday as a Category 3 or 4 hurricane, said Ernesto Morales with the U.S. National Weather Service in San Juan.

https://tu9srvbirvvtmjikaw1nlxmtbxnulwnvbs5ha2ftywl6zwqubm v0.g00.msn.com/g00/2_d3d3Lm1zbi5jb20%3D_/TU9SRVBIRVVTMjIkaHR0cHM6Ly9pbWctcy1tc24tY29tLmFrYW 1haXplZC5uZXQvdGVuYW50L2FtcC9lbnRpdHlpZC9BQXM4d1oy LmltZz9oPTc2NiZ3PTEwMTkmbT02JnE9NjAmbz1mJmw9ZiZpMT BjLm1hcmsuaW1hZ2UudHlwZQ%3D%3D_$/$/$/$/$

This is an image from Hurricane Irma damage in Virgin Gorda in the British Virgin Islands.

Wouldn't this be a dreamers paradise to own a bar there?

[mapuc]

Found this interesting article related to the Hurricane Irma and lack of electricity

As pointed out by the Miami New Times, Florida Power and Light (FPL) – a major supplier of electricity to the state – has invested heavily in lobbying state lawmakers to disallow residents from powering their own homes with solar power panels. In fact, thanks to the current laws, it is illegal to do so; you have to connect any solar panels to your local electric grid.

http://www.iflscience.com/policy/illegal-power-home-solar-panels-florida/

Markus

[STEED]

Hurricane Maria strengthens to category five stormhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-41314881

Here comes another one!

[BlueBeard]

Hello Neal,

How did you ride the hurricane out?

Cheers,
Menno

[Mr Quatro]

Hurricane Harvey, Hurricane Irma, Hurricane Jose, Hurricane Maria plus two earthquakes in Mexico one an 8.1 and today a 7.1 on the 32nd anniversary since the last major earthquake in Mexico with Hurricane Maria just two weeks after the last one hit the Caribbean ... nothing strange going on here, right?

http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/hurricane-maria-abc-jpo-170918_4x3_992.jpg

[Onkel Neal]

Hello Neal,

How did you ride the hurricane out?

Cheers,
Menno

Aye sir, short interval of hard wind, several days of rain, and the rivers came out of their banks like never before. But we made out alright. Great to hear from you, old friend. :Kaleun_Salute:

[BlueBeard]

BTW I came across old photo's from the 2004 meeting :)
Would it be an idea to try to get a meeting up 13 years later and see how many we can bring back to the same location?

http://i63.tinypic.com/9k9nb9.jpg

[Onkel Neal]

I'm game for that. We need the three Dutch, Sharky and Rebel to agree to get started :)

[Jimbuna]

Be nice to see George/Rebel there :cool:

[BlueBeard]

I'm game for that. We need the three Dutch, Sharky and Rebel to agree to get started :)

I have started a new thread in the events section. Let's see if we can get it of the ground for 2018.

[Aktungbby]

Advocacy groups said Friday that Texas is poised to unfairly distribute billions in federal funding provided for housing repairs following Hurricane Harvey’s devastation — prioritizing wealthy homeowners over poorer victims in ways that could constitute racial discrimination....a coalition led by the Austin-based nonprofit Texas Housers says damage assessments to determine who is eligible to get help are based on data from Federal Emergency Management Agency inspections that calculate property losses rather than the full human toll of major natural disasters — making it more difficult for victims who live in lower income areas to meet damage thresholds...
Duncan said Harvey victims who rented and owned homes in 20 largely minority areas in Houston, as well coastal communities like Port Arthur, are most likely to be excluded.
“It’s absolutely a civil rights issue,” he said. “A lot of these zip codes that we’ve identified that stand to be the most underfunded are communities of color.” https://chicago.suntimes.com/environment/harvey-recovery-funds-may-prioritize-wealthy/ (https://chicago.suntimes.com/environment/harvey-recovery-funds-may-prioritize-wealthy/)

[AVGWarhawk]

https://chicago.suntimes.com/environment/harvey-recovery-funds-may-prioritize-wealthy/ (https://chicago.suntimes.com/environment/harvey-recovery-funds-may-prioritize-wealthy/)

prioritizing wealthy homeowners over poorer victims in ways that could constitute racial discrimination.

Wealthy homeowners come from all races. Poor home owners come in all races. :hmmm: I do know the state of TX has been running food trucks since the storm. They had 5 of my reefer trucks and these were just let go last week.

[Gargamel]

They had 5 of my reefer trucks and these were just let go last week.

I didn't know they had legalized yet in Texas.......

[Onkel Neal]

Hawaii catching hell...literally
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/07/us/hawaii-kilauea-volcano/index.html

[Jimbuna]

All over the UK news channels.....looks pretty bad :o

[Catfish]

But thank god it is basaltic lava, of the ocean floor type. Otherwise there would be 'plinian' eruptions, with much worse consequences.

So it is bad enough, but if you settle on a volcano... :o

[em2nought]

Suddenly, sink holes in Florida don't look too bad. :03:

[mapuc]

Saw those picture on the news today

Scenes from 2012 came into my mind.

Markus

[Mr Quatro]

Yes, this is a bad one for Kona, plus the fumes must be causing problems for everyone on the island, but these things have happen before like someone said back in 2012.

It's when records are being broken that I wonder what's going on :yep:

For example Green Bay, Wisconsin just had it's worst winter ever recorded :o

[Onkel Neal]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2373241001

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=/imgres%3Fimgurl%3Dhttps://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/09/19/USAT/207308f0-eada-4502-9d33-e18902e02bcc-6-storms.jpg%253Fcrop%253D598,449,x80,y0%2526width%2 53D640%26imgrefurl%3Dhttps://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/09/19/hurricanes-tropical-storms-atlantic-pacific-set-record-kiko-humberto-jerry-imelda-mario-lorena/2373241001/%3Futm_source%3Dgoogle%26utm_medium%3Damp%26utm_ca mpaign%3Dspeakable%26h%3D481%26w%3D640%26tbnid%3DJ eRBMQvCLulA_M%26tbnh%3D195%26tbnw%3D259%26usg%3DK_ Lim-IJMM9jQCJxTty17pFyEVJbA%3D%26docid%3DaB8lbegkKdONh M&ved=2ahUKEwio9LfU0d3kAhVHOKwKHaV7B3UQ8g0wAHoECAMQB A&usg=AOvVaw2zgXPTeB7bQSExJo4gxciP



Guess what? Imelda paid me a visit

[Mr Quatro]

Tropical storm Imeida only lasted two days ... Shortest. Tropical storm on record bringing rain and flooding to much of South Texas with up to 30" of rain and three deaths.

[Onkel Neal]

The National Hurricane Center highlighted the western Gulf of Mexico for potential development on early Saturday morning, but the chances for development remained low through Tuesday at 8 a.m. CDT.

That is, until the system quickly became more organized on Tuesday, with increasing thunderstorms bubbling just off the Texas coast.

A tropical depression formed at 12 p.m. CDT Tuesday. It was forecast to become a tropical storm and a tropical storm warning was issued for part of the Texas coast.

But it only took 45 minutes for that to happen.

Tropical Storm Imelda formed at 1245 p.m. CDT, bringing with it a sustained wind of 40 mph at Freeport, Texas.

Imelda made landfall at Freeport 15 minutes later, at 1 p.m. CDT, just an hour after first being designated a tropical depression.

Since Imelda moved over land shortly after developing, it was not able to strengthen, but heavy rainfall and flooding were always the primary concern with this system.


It went from nothing to tropical storm and then landfall in mere hours, very big surprise for all of us. One of my drivers had 8" of water in his house and his new truck flooded. :wah:

[em2nought]

It went from nothing to tropical storm and then landfall in mere hours, very big surprise for all of us. One of my drivers had 8" of water in his house and his new truck flooded. :wah:


You've expanded? You "have" drivers now. Just read this tidbit
Dana says the lube should be drained from axles and checked for water contamination, which can make the lube oil appear milky. If that’s not definitive, try a “crackle” test. Place a bit of the suspect lubricant in a metal pan and heat in on a hot plate to about 400 degrees. Any water present will boil off with a crackling sound. If it just smokes, no water is present.


https://www.todaystrucking.com/deep-trouble-how-to-repair-trucks-and-trailers-after-a-flood/

[Mr Quatro]

Good advice em2 :up:

After the winter is over Chicago ship's all of it's winter done in auto/trucks to the South and after a hurricane the South sends all of it's flooded cars/trucks to the Northern states :yep:

[Onkel Neal]

Hanna, you sneaky b*tch!! :doh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC-e2yQhaK0

[Skybird]

You've expanded? You "have" drivers now. Just
Nah, he just plays ATS2. :O:

[Onkel Neal]

Hanna took a slight left turn and all I got was rain, nice!

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/07/25/us/hurricane-hanna-tracker-map.html

[BlueBeard]

Besides the hurricanes, how are y’all doing during the corona storm?

[Onkel Neal]

Staying at home a lot more, always wearing a mask. So far not a problem. How about where you guys are?

[BlueBeard]

I have been at home since the 15th of march orso. Province North-Holland isnt the worst hit (atleast the town where I live). Home schooling also started then, so only went out for groceries and working from home 100%. Masks are only mandatory in public transit. The Netherlands is different in that then surrounding countries, like germany. We have very low cases here now, so restrictions are being lifted. Thank god the people themselves were smart enough here to follow the distancing rules in the beginning, worked from home, etc, so that helped a lot. But things are spiking here a bit again at some places in NL.����

I think people here in Europe are looking with disbelief how America handles this (most of all the americans themselves not using social distancing. Atleast thats the image you get from the media).
Home schooling has also been lifted after 2 months I believe (���� !!@%#). This month I was even able to go to the beach for a drink so thats good news ��
Nobody I know got corona (maybe asymptomic?) Luckily. Have been unemployed since end of may (I am a freelance contractor now for 2,5 years). But I found a new contract last friday to start again on 17-8 ����
Hope this nightmare ends soon .

[Onkel Neal]

Yeah, it's pretty sad, we have this mixed up with politics from both sides.

What we really need is outside management. Let Taiwan manage this for us, we just do what they did. Just think, it could have spared 140,000+ of our fellow citizens a slow, agonizing death.

.
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/attachment.php?attachmentid=3387&d=1595780640 vs. https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/attachment.php?attachmentid=3388&d=1595780644

They're miles ahead of us as a society that handles this emergency. I mean, they are right next to China, for crying out loud and they are largely free and safe from this pandemic. America is acting like bumbling retard child in comparison. Arggh!


.

[BlueBeard]

Difference is that countries in that area are more used to outbreaks, air polution, etc so more disciplined in wearing masks for example.
But no matter how many rules you apply, in the end it’s the people that need to realise that fighting this starts with practising social distancing for themselves and avoid crowded places. Then the gov doesnt have to do a total economy because that will kill the economy.

[August]

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/attachment.php?attachmentid=3388&d=1595780644




If you believe those numbers then there are 1.8 million people around the country currently sick with the virus and even if you buy that it still means the infection rate is only 0.01%.

[BlueBeard]

The point being is that if you let it burn the death rate will be very much higher, and even speaking about the permanent damage your body can get when surviving it.
Why higher death rate? Because healthcare has its limits how many people it can handle. Now people have a chance of surviving because of healthcare. If you let it burn hospitals will overflow and the death rate will be much higher.
Here in Holland they chose for intelligent lockdown so to even out the spread over longer time so healthcare could better handle it (basically controlling the fire in how it burns)
And yes we cannot be in lockdown indefinitly because then the economy collapses. Corona is a b****.

[Onkel Neal]

Difference is that countries in that area are more used to outbreaks, air polution, etc so more disciplined in wearing masks for example.
But no matter how many rules you apply, in the end it’s the people that need to realise that fighting this starts with practising social distancing for themselves and avoid crowded places. Then the gov doesnt have to do a total economy because that will kill the economy.

More disciplined is an understatement. Yeah, we wouldn't have damaged our economy to such a degree if we were as disciplined as Taiwan, if we would be as smart.

[Sean C]

Here it comes. See you on the other side ... I hope. :Kaleun_Cheers:


https://i.imgur.com/c5xRTA6h.jpg

[Onkel Neal]

Yikes,

A Scary Amount of Rain Is About to Drench the East Coast

https://earther.gizmodo.com/a-scary-amount-of-rain-is-about-to-drench-the-east-coas-1844595528

So if you’re in any of the areas along the storm’s projected path, buckle up, because it’s looking like things might get bad. The Capital Weather gang forecasts 3 to 6 inches of widespread rainfall, with some areas accumulating up to 8 inches. All that potential for flooding has caused the National Weather Service to issue flood watches along the East Coast, from Washington D.C. through the New York City Tri-State area. NYC has even set up temporary flood barriers in Lower Manhattan in preparation for a possible storm surge.

Haha, try 60 inches!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2017/08/29/harvey-marks-the-most-extreme-rain-event-in-u-s-history/

[Sean C]

It didn't rain too much here. There were times when it was pouring, but those were brief. The wind was a bit frightening. I don't recall ever seeing stronger gusts. And there were a couple of times I was sure that a tornado was coming.

But, we made it through alright. Our power is still out, but it is for many people in the area. Probably won't be back on for a few days. It's hot in here. And my phone is my only connection right now. My neighbors' generators are loud. Wish I had bought one. It's going to be a long night.

[Onkel Neal]

Good to hear no serious damage. Yeah, if you live on the coast you will want a generator. I've got one of these Chinese generators, works pretty well. Runs on gas or propane, and it's pretty quiet. When I lived in a camper it was powerful enough to run the whole house, plus AC. Now that I'm in a real house again, I use it solely for the fridges and freezers, plus a circuit for the TV and computer. The inverter model costs a lot more than the regular type but supposedly it produces a better flow for electronics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfysW--sBfc

If you go with a regular type you can get a lot more power for less $$
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Champion-Power-Equipment-5-500-Watt-Dual-Fuel-Powered-Portable-Generator-with-Champion-389-cc-4-Stroke-Engine-100231/300576764

https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/4ac2d90d-2a4a-498b-8bf0-da7daea56294/svn/champion-power-equipment-portable-generators-100231-64_1000.jpg

[Gerald]

What is the price tag?

[Onkel Neal]

https://www.amazon.com/Generators-Champion-Power-Equipment-Portable/s?rh=n%3A348967011%2Cp_89%3AChampion+Power+Equipme nt

[Jimbuna]

At those prices I'd have expected a new one :03:

[Onkel Neal]

Those are new.

[Jimbuna]

Those are new.

Old British joke Neal, implying that you were robbed :)

[Onkel Neal]

Robbed? How so?

[Catfish]

Old British joke Neal, implying that you were robbed :)
:haha: well i did not know this one

[Gerald]

:haha: well i did not know this one
Neither I nor my fingers are crossed.:D

[Onkel Neal]

Aw come on! :Kaleun_Mad:

https://media.khou.com/assets/KHOU/images/794bed84-7883-41ac-8625-605c2a31edb2/794bed84-7883-41ac-8625-605c2a31edb2_360x203.jpg

First ever double hurricane could hit the Gulf of Mexico

So long, friends! :dead:

https://www.click2houston.com/resizer/pDXdeoRfgUaXX71wWz9NRoiNl0Q=/800x596/smart/filters:format(jpeg):strip_exif(true):strip_icc(tr ue):no_upscale(true):quality(65)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/gmg/6322B6GA2FAWBMGZLWJOYVRAIU.JPG

[Gerald]

It will go well for you, believe me! :up:

[Aktungbby]

Aw come on! :Kaleun_Mad:

https://media.khou.com/assets/KHOU/images/794bed84-7883-41ac-8625-605c2a31edb2/794bed84-7883-41ac-8625-605c2a31edb2_360x203.jpg

First ever double hurricane could hit the Gulf of Mexico
So long, friends!:dead:] En espanol: el derecho (like the recent super windstorm across Iowa!)...then el izquierdo!:k_confused: but in Spanish: the right then the left! Could you forward the address of your heir(s) so we know where to send our :subsim: dues?:O::arrgh!: Rest assured you
will be missed!: But if you can manage to bugout you're always welcome at Napa for a little hospitality... and a first-rate BBQ!!:Kaleun_Salute:

[Onkel Neal]

"Napa" and "BBQ", two words I never thought I would hear put together. :D

[Catfish]

:haha: I hope Aktung has stored a lot of steaks for the season.. won't need barbecue lighters i guess..

@Neal wish you all the best, sure looks impressive on the radar.

[Onkel Neal]

Reminds me of a dream I had some years back, I still remember it:

in the dream, the news announced a big hurricane enters the gulf. It is growing, becoming a cat 3, then cat 4... headed straight for my ranch. Then the news reports it has stopped forward progress, and still growing, now a cat 5... then it sits in the gulf, just sits there spinning, getting bigger and stronger, something no storm has ever done, growing stronger and stronger, stronger than any storm ever... and still getting stronger...400mph winds... omg, when it starts forward .... the devastation.... and I woke up. :-?

[Aktungbby]

"Napa" and "BBQ", two words I never thought I would hear put together. :D

:haha: I hope Aktung has stored a lot of steaks for the season.. won't need barbecue lighters i guess..

@Neal wish you all the best, sure looks impressive on the radar.Steaks, lamb chops, pork chops and my ready stock of burger patties all vacuumed packed in the garage freezer against quake/fire related cuisine-interruptus based on previous hard-learned experience. The lid of my Weber BBQ doubles as my Spartan shield with my righthand steely fork against starving intruders and damned mooching inlaws,:arrgh!: Spare-the-air is in effect; but the legal loophole allows if the BBQ is the only source of cookery...and with two power failures already-and an expectation of further PG&E failure...hey I'm off the hook with enforcement! The fire-smoke is completely down to the ground anyhow! so "air quality" is null and void.:wah: https://ktla.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2020/08/Breaking-News-NEW-1.jpg?w=900 Closer up https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_feature/public/thumbnails/image/smoke-fire-ca.jpg (https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/smoke-fire-ca.jpg)

[vienna]

Hang in there Neal; I doubt any hurricane, or pair of them, could ever seriously "mess with Texas"...

Hold fast and ride it out; our good wishes are with you...




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[Aktungbby]

Reminds me of a dream I had some years back, I still remember it:

in the dream, the news announced a big hurricane enters the gulf. It is growing, becoming a cat 3, then cat 4... headed straight for my ranch. Then the news reports it has stopped forward progress, and still growing, now a cat 5... then it sits in the gulf, just sits there spinning, getting bigger and stronger, something no storm has ever done, growing stronger and stronger, stronger than any storm ever... and still getting stronger...400mph winds... omg, when it starts forward .... the devastation.... and I woke up. :-? Just weld some serious 50 gallon drums to that storage container you converted to to dwelling all around the base; https://i.pinimg.com/564x/27/b0/dd/27b0dd15e5c3001b648fb748eabcad2a.jpg so you'll float and have a a birdcage with love doves to release when u spot dry land...again! Don't use ravens; that was #1 to go and didn't return. Doves will!:yeah::shucks: http://www.pitts.emory.edu/woodcuts/1872HolyV1/00016599.jpg https://www.gotquestions.org/Noah-raven-dove.html (https://www.gotquestions.org/Noah-raven-dove.html) :arrgh!:

[Buddahaid]

Too much! 🤣

[Catfish]

Just weld some serious 50 gallon drums to that storage container you converted to to dwelling all around the base; https://i.pinimg.com/564x/27/b0/dd/27b0dd15e5c3001b648fb748eabcad2a.jpg so you'll float and have a a birdcage with love doves to release when u spot dry land...again! Don't use ravens; that was #1 to go and didn't return. Doves will!:yeah::shucks: http://www.pitts.emory.edu/woodcuts/1872HolyV1/00016599.jpg https://www.gotquestions.org/Noah-raven-dove.html (https://www.gotquestions.org/Noah-raven-dove.html) :arrgh!:


^^ Those steel drums rust and spring a leak at the most undesired times, beware :03:
Raven and dove, pah. The raven found a nice spot better than this ark and of course did not come back to bad food and smell. The dove was just to dumb :O:

[Jimbuna]

Reminds me of a dream I had some years back, I still remember it:

in the dream, the news announced a big hurricane enters the gulf. It is growing, becoming a cat 3, then cat 4... headed straight for my ranch. Then the news reports it has stopped forward progress, and still growing, now a cat 5... then it sits in the gulf, just sits there spinning, getting bigger and stronger, something no storm has ever done, growing stronger and stronger, stronger than any storm ever... and still getting stronger...400mph winds... omg, when it starts forward .... the devastation.... and I woke up. :-?

Look on the bright side...at least you don't have those squirrels in your back garden to worry about.

Either way...stay safe my friend.

[Catfish]

Look on the bright side...at least you don't have those squirrels in your back garden to worry about. [...]

:hmmm:

https://i.imgur.com/Uve0zNOl.jpg

[vienna]

https://images-eu.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51IeNJhHH3L._SY445_QL70_ML2_.jpg





,,,and, yeah, that's a real book cover...








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[Onkel Neal]

Hang in there Neal; I doubt any hurricane, or pair of them, could ever seriously "mess with Texas"...

Hold fast and ride it out; our good wishes are with you...

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Lol, thanks, updates are now predicting a more favorable path for me, but Louisiana is going to catch hell :(

https://s.w-x.co/marco-laura-sunam.jpg?crop=16:9&format=pjpg&auto=webp&quality=60&width=160

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/back-to-back-landfalls-possible-this-week

[vienna]

Good to hear about the new better development for your situation; I'll share a few of my good wishes for Louisiana...




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[Buddahaid]

I still like this guys updates and the way he collates different models while explaining what you're looking at.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/

Just updated for today.

[Gerald]

I still like this guys updates and the way he collates different models while explaining what you're looking at.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/

Just updated for today. Morning! A similar up..about the situation? https://www.reuters.com/video/watch/idPbSv?now=true

[Sean C]

I still like this guys updates and the way he collates different models while explaining what you're looking at.


I get my weather from Frankie MacDonald. No confusing "data". Just a very loud voice telling you to be prepared! ;)

[em2nought]

I still like this guys updates and the way he collates different models while explaining what you're looking at.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/

Just updated for today.


Meanwhile the weather channel thinks I need to know about ice road truckers. :har:

[Buddahaid]

Tropical Tidbits just updated for today.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/

[Platapus]

Hurricane during a pandemic. Not a good combination.


Hope everyone takes the appropriate precautions.


I wonder if the same people who refuse to wear a mask will also refuse to evacuate?


Can't have the government tell you what to do, right?

[Mr Quatro]

Hurricane during a pandemic. Not a good combination.


Hope everyone takes the appropriate precautions.


I wonder if the same people who refuse to wear a mask will also refuse to evacuate?


Can't have the government tell you what to do, right?

even the snakes evacuate when hurricane's come to town in South Texas :yep:

[August]

Can't have the government tell you what to do, right?


Not unless you want to make a habit of it.

[Buddahaid]

Not unless you want to make a habit of it.

Well that is the way it is and has been for a good long time. What would Andy Griffith say....

[August]

Well that is the way it is and has been for a good long time. What would Andy Griffith say....


Well he wouldn't say much since he's dead but I don't give the words of Hollywood actors much weight anyways. As for resting easy in my government chains, never. Guidelines are not laws and inalienable rights should not be suspended by simple executive decree.

[mapuc]

Stay safe my friends.

I hope you when you wake Monday morning, you haven't had any major weathery problems throughout the Weekends.

Markus

[Onkel Neal]

Dodged that bullet! Not even raining here, whew!

[Jimbuna]

Hurricane Laura causes flash flooding as it makes landfall in Louisiana
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53928960

You all keep safe over there.

[vienna]

I get my weather from Frankie MacDonald. No confusing "data". Just a very loud voice telling you to be prepared! ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeUrIA64ZOI





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[Onkel Neal]

Class 1 Nicholas stealth hurricane, sneaked in and flattened the coast about 35 miles from here. No power for 20 hours, 8" rain, not bad, slept through most of it.

[Onkel Neal]

Path of Nicholas

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/attachment.php?attachmentid=4756&d=1631657454

[Reece]

slept through most of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBlhrTpi69E