Gargamel
07-21-17, 07:27 AM
From the Subsim frontpage:
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/07/20/538338758/the-navy-gets-its-first-female-seal-candidate
Female candidates for these jobs will have to complete the same training that men do, without any allowances for differing average physical capabilities.
I think that aspect is a very good thing, as it means all candidates would have to pass the same tests and requirements.
Jimbuna
07-21-17, 08:00 AM
Agreed and I'd expect many a female candidate to pass.
They claim that it will be the same training but that has not been the case so far with other combat arms schools like Infantry and Ranger school.
Problem is the great majority of women just can't hack the heavy physical strain common to these types of schools so they flunk out in numbers that are ripe for charges of gender discrimination which then forces the Brass to lower or ignore standards so that more of them will pass.
Jimbuna
07-21-17, 09:50 AM
That is most likely the case but I should have been more detailed in my post when I was trying to compare to some of the more manly/portly females I have come across in LEO uniforms (saved my bacon on two occasions).
Skybird
07-21-17, 12:07 PM
They claim that it will be the same training but that has not been the case so far with other combat arms schools like Infantry and Ranger school.
Problem is the great majority of women just can't hack the heavy physical strain common to these types of schools so they flunk out in numbers that are ripe for charges of gender discrimination which then forces the Brass to lower or ignore standards so that more of them will pass.
^ This. This book's for you:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=232657
Or more precise, it is not...
One reviewer: "In 1948, Congress authorized the Armed Services to take in women on a permanent basis for the first time. In 1967, during the Vietnam war, the Armed Forces turned to women for needed manpower. The percent of women in the military rose from 2% to 7% and eventually to 11%. The first female general got her star.
But two problems existed: bodily strength and pregnancy. Men were stronger.
Women were excused from competing in feats of strength. And women get pregnant.
In Sandhurst, three Royal Air Force women on parade with their male comrades were forced to take longer strides than usual. The Ministry of Defense had to pay each $150,000. In Iraq and Afghanistan, the fastest way to be transferred home was to get pregnant. Between 2003 and 2011, 50,634 American troops were flown out of Iraq and Afghanistan for medical reasons. Of these, 6,376 were women who did not participate in combat. In 2013, there were 156,000 single parent families in the US armed forces. In 131,000, a woman soldier was the head of the household.
There are lower standards for physical performance for females but preferred promotion to commissioned rank. For many men, aggressive feminism means the end of masculinity and the courageous warrior. While the demand for equality is made in a plea for fairness, the net result is a privileged status often obtained by resort to the courts.
Courage requires mental discipline because fear drives out understanding and the ability to think. In World War I and II, “shell shock” and “combat fatigue” were in common usage. During WWII, 23% of American troops evacuated were psychiatric casualties. During the Vietnam war, the incidence of PTSD exploded. In 1972, 60% of evacuees were psychiatric casualties. In 1981, PTSD entered the Diagnostic Manual of Mental Disorders and in 1987, the cause could be a normal human experience.
Starting in 2010, no American combat veteran could be discharged without being first examined for PTSD. The results were a common finding of disability, the prescription of drugs and associated pensions."
Its save to say that in Germany things are probably even worse. I know one guy personally, a major, who has quit early - in resignation. His tales you find hard to believe. He said many units of the army and air force are in advanced stages of moral self-erosion. Our fantastic feminist super nanny, defence ministress Ursula "wonder mummy" van der Leyen, has dramatically increased this process.
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