Challenger Demon

[Onkel Neal]

840 HP (http://jalopnik.com/the-2018-dodge-challenger-srt-demon-is-officially-a-840-1794227910)

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Wow. My buddy has a Hell Cat with 707HP, it got up to 140 so quick my reflect was "OK, Ok, slow down!" before I could think.

Oh, to be a rich man, this would be a sweet toy. Thing will pull the front tires of the ground.

[GT182]

LOL.... I'd rather have my 66 GTO. These new retro classics with all of this horse power will only get their owners in a big heap of trouble. Besides that, how can anyone afford the insurance for these thing?

[Sailor Steve]

Besides that, how can anyone afford the insurance for these thing?
Once upon a time in a tire shop I noticed that 'Z'-rated tires were $300 each. When I pointed them out the salesman asked how anyone could afford those.

My reply: For someone who can afford the car they go on, $1200 for a set of tires is probably a drop in the bucket. Same probably goes for insurance.

Neal, did he let you drive it?

[Jimbuna]

Certainly looks like a speed monster and relating to what Steve posted, I remember when I was seventeen my father purchased a Jaguar XJ6 4.2 litre (approx 16 mpg) which was quite heavy consumption for a UK car.

From time to time someone would ask how he could afford the petrol bills and his answer was along the lines of "If petrol bills worry you, then you can't afford the car in the first place".

[Catfish]

" ... 770 lb-ft of torque ..."

http://www.convertunits.com/from/pound+foot/to/newton-meter

More than thousand newtonmeters of torque?! This is more impressive than the sheer horsepower :o
Maybe it does not make sense but to hell with it, I would really like to try this out :03:

[Onkel Neal]

Once upon a time in a tire shop I noticed that 'Z'-rated tires were $300 each. When I pointed them out the salesman asked how anyone could afford those.

My reply: For someone who can afford the car they go on, $1200 for a set of tires is probably a drop in the bucket. Same probably goes for insurance.

Neal, did he let you drive it?
No, he did not offer, and I did not ask. My goal is to live to 80.

It's an amazing machine, one that I would not really have any good use for, but for what it is, it's pretty cool.

There's an hour long video of the staged event unveiling and the cheesy PR hype is as impressive as the car itself.

[Skybird]

Assetto Corsa. The closest you can get to driving a real car without actually buying a real car. And I think in its early days there was a mod for the Dodge Challenger. AC, plus VR, plus some good pedals and wheel rims by Fanatec...

:D

[Catfish]

^ well it's not quite the real thing, but then you can virtually race it w/o having to fear for your or other's lives :03:

What no Farrari Lusso from 1962 in this sim? :wah:

I somehow like the Alfa MiTo http://www.assettocorsa.net/wp-content/uploads/preview-6.jpg, but it is small and it looks terrible from behind :hmmm:

If i had money, i would get:
Ferrari Lusso 1962 okok.. they are not even close in technology to what you have to pay for, but this form...
Jaguar 60ies E-type (helping a friend of mine to restore his, currently 4,2 litre engine and carbs rebuild)
Spitfire Mk.III (don't laugh, for me one of the most beautiful cars in the world, and affordable)
Maybe an MG TC..

Any ideas of becoming a millionaire in 5 years? Please write.

[Gargamel]

One article I read said it's capped at 140 mph?

And I kinda of snickered when it said "fastest US production car in the World".

No wonder them Euros laugh at us when we try to make a car.

[Skybird]

Last year, the sales number of originally imported US brand cars like Dodge and so forth, were below 600 (not counting Ford producing European designs in Europe). They are so exotic and rare on German streets over here that all heads are turning if their is one, like black GIs turned heads in Germany in the fifties. :)

Trump lies when saying that is just due to "unfairness". He should know better, its simply is market in action. The cars of design for American consumer desires (or tolerance) simply are not wanted over here, they do not match what German and European car customers want and look for in car design. I have no idea whether these cars are better or worse. i only say they are of a kind and look and design and technical specs that are not wanted by customers over here, not more, not less. Thjats why many American car importing car traders in the past 20 years have given up the import branch of their business. That is no active boycott by us - it simply is a reaction to non-existent consumer interest.

That simple it is, Donny. :up:

[Commander Wallace]

Certainly looks like a speed monster and relating to what Steve posted, I remember when I was seventeen my father purchased a Jaguar XJ6 4.2 litre (approx 16 mpg) which was quite heavy consumption for a UK car.

From time to time someone would ask how he could afford the petrol bills and his answer was along the lines of "If petrol bills worry you, then you can't afford the car in the first place".


I heard the same thing here when I asked people who built Hot Rods, some of which were pretty radical. " If you have to ask what it costs to build, maintain or run something like this car, you can't afford it anyhow. I always thought the Jaguar XJ6 was fairly well fuel efficient. They are beautiful cars regardless. A friend has a number of Jaguar XKE's, some of which have the 12 cylinder engine. Certainly, one of the most beautiful cars ever made.


One article I read said it's capped at 140 mph?

And I kinda of snickered when it said "fastest US production car in the World".

No wonder them Euros laugh at us when we try to make a car.

That may well just be for insurance purposes. If you can afford the car but insurance companies won't insure it or you driving it, what good is it ? There are certainly American made cars that can easily reach 140 MPH and well beyond. Reality being what it is, why would anyone want to drive that fast anyway. Racing Motorcycle's or as they are called, " crouch rockets " are even faster.

One time, years ago, my car was blocked in and a friend offered to give me the relatively short ride to college for classes on his racing motorcycle. I accepted and he proceeded to drive as fast as he could, well over 100 mph, with my head buried in his shoulder, eyes closed, screaming the whole way. He on the other hand was laughing like a loon. I lost my voice for a few days and never got on his or any other motorcycle like that racing bike. He still laughs about it when I see him. With friends like that, who needs nightmares ?

If on the other hand you live in Germany, You can easily obtain quality made German cars built to drive on the Autobahn which in certain areas, have unrestricted speed limits and are generally a " leadfoot's " dream. :D

[AVGWarhawk]

LOL.... I'd rather have my 66 GTO. These new retro classics with all of this horse power will only get their owners in a big heap of trouble. Besides that, how can anyone afford the insurance for these thing?

Haggerty will cover the car. Not sure if anyone else will.

[nikimcbee]

So, last month when I was in Austin. The rental car place asked me if I wanted to "upgrade" to a Dodge Challenger?

Yes.
Yes I would like that.

It was a fun drive to Fredericksburg.:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

[AVGWarhawk]

Once upon a time in a tire shop I noticed that 'Z'-rated tires were $300 each. When I pointed them out the salesman asked how anyone could afford those.

My reply: For someone who can afford the car they go on, $1200 for a set of tires is probably a drop in the bucket. Same probably goes for insurance.

Neal, did he let you drive it?

You would be surprised, Steve. I worked at Goodyear 11 years. Many purchased cars without thinking ahead to cost of maintenance. Many showed up for a new set of Gator Back tires for their IROC Chevy. When the 4 figure quote for the tires was presented many walked out of the door not realizing tires for the IROC were costly and not affordable. However, the car owner could pay the month to month on the loan because the finance folks made it "work" for the buyer. It "worked" up to the point the vehicle needed tires or other general maintenance.

[AVGWarhawk]

840 HP (http://jalopnik.com/the-2018-dodge-challenger-srt-demon-is-officially-a-840-1794227910)



Wow. My buddy has a Hell Cat with 707HP, it got up to 140 so quick my reflect was "OK, Ok, slow down!" before I could think.

Oh, to be a rich man, this would be a sweet toy. Thing will pull the front tires of the ground.

Left a lasting impression on your arse as it accelerated to light speed!

[nikimcbee]

I'm not sure why anyone would buy a high end sports car in Ore-gone though.

Metro speed limit is 55:doh: and rural is 60:har::har::har::har:.

It was so hard to comeback to OR and drive after being in TX.

Washington State, where Or-gone drivers go to drive fast. WA speed limit is 70.

[AVGWarhawk]

One article I read said it's capped at 140 mph?

And I kinda of snickered when it said "fastest US production car in the World".

No wonder them Euros laugh at us when we try to make a car.

The computer can be capped to shut down the injectors or retard the timing to slow the car when a set speed is obtained. Your standard vehicle is generally capped at 120. However, there are tuner boxes to plug into the ALDL so the owner my "tinker" with perimeters set in the computer. VW has a preprogrammed download to spool up turbos to higher PSI than factor stock. VW is in enough trouble with that.

140 mph is great. It is even better when you can reach 140 mph between stop lights! :D

[Onkel Neal]

So, last month when I was in Austin. The rental car place asked me if I wanted to "upgrade" to a Dodge Challenger?

Yes.
Yes I would like that.

It was a fun drive to Fredericksburg.:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

And you didn't invite me. For shame!

[nikimcbee]

And you didn't invite me. For shame!

I tried calling, but I think I'm on call block.:D

More Torchy's Tacos for me I guess. Fredericksburg was great though, it's like Oktoberfest, but every day!

[Rockin Robbins]

The cars of design for American consumer desires (or tolerance) simply are not wanted over here, they do not match what German and European car customers want and look for in car design.
That simple it is, Donny. :up:

So let's take a garden variety Lamborghini Murcielago and go looking for a lowly American Corvette to slay mercilessly on a middle east highway. Take the cell phone. This will be fun!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CatMjAzEt3c

[AVGWarhawk]

Bye bye baby!

[mapuc]

As some of you I like to put the pedal to the metal-If I'm the driver.

It will be nothing than a dream-The day I win the jackpot and I can buy not only a muscle car but also my own racetrack-So I can under secured situation put pedal to the metal-Something I would NEVER do among public traffic.

Markus

[Red October1984]

It's an amazing machine, one that I would not really have any good use for, but for what it is, it's pretty cool.

This sums up my entire opinion on this car. The only thing special about it is that they get it to run 9s from the factory and a ridiculously insane 0-60 (or 0-100 for the rest of the world).

V8 muscle cars have been running 9s forever. Chevrolet small block platforms are ridiculous. The only reason to buy this car is to have the quickest factory production car and a Dodge at the same time. Which, NHRA banned...so you can't even do what it's designed for.

Yes, it's a hell of a monster and faster than damn near everything else out there...but my question is why?

At the same time, there is such a thing as personal preference. In my opinion, you shouldn't buy a car just because it's fast and powerful...you buy something you enjoy driving. If Challengers and Muscle is your thing, this car is great.

I just see an American R35 GTR.

well it's not quite the real thing, but then you can virtually race it w/o having to fear for your or other's lives :03:

Autocross is fun too. :Kaleun_Wink: And much much cheaper than racing on a circuit.

Any ideas of becoming a millionaire in 5 years? Please write.


Every time I see a BMW 3.0 CSL go up for sale i contemplate selling organs. :)

[Sailor Steve]

Markus, you should pay us a visit. We have a world-class racetrack that will let you run your car to its limits - for a price, of course, but that's a lot cheaper than having your own track. They even host races for average everyday cars, so you don't have to have the fastest car in the world to have some fun.

[Platapus]

So what kinda mileage do you get from the Challenger?:D

[mapuc]

Markus, you should pay us a visit. We have a world-class racetrack that will let you run your car to its limits - for a price, of course, but that's a lot cheaper than having your own track. They even host races for average everyday cars, so you don't have to have the fastest car in the world to have some fun.

Thank you Steve-You mentioned something that is one of my dreams too-That is if I should win the jackpot-Take a cruise ship to New York or similar city, rent a big RV and then travel the roads thin-Expect it would take 1½-2 years to travel east to west and north to south.

Markus

[em2nought]

I still think Dodge should get out of the car business and move into the rolling chassis business instead. Bring back all the old models as rolling chassis, and also sell nice new 318s built on modern machinery separately. Better than selling your soul to Fiat. :o

[Platapus]

I'm not sure why anyone would buy a high end sports car in Ore-gone though.



I wonder about that same thing here in North Virginia. We have Ferrari, Lambo, McLaren, and other super car dealerships just down the road from where I live. Nice to look at, but who would drive one of those on VA roads?

One pothole and you have a $10,000 alignment job or probably $20,000 suspension repair. Plus the roads are so crowded you would have a hard time getting out of second gear.

I have a hard enough time driving my Subaru Forester on these roads!

But evidently people do buy them. I guess they put them in storage, which seems to be a waste.

[Onkel Neal]

Yeah, I can see getting 5000 speeding tickets in the first week. If they had autobahns here, I might consider a car like that, but on every day roads... just not really a good deal.

When my buddy had his Hellcat up over 130 all I could think of was "this would be a bad time for a javelina or deer to run across the road". Even an armadillo would have sent us skyborn.

[Sailor Steve]

Back before the 1970s oil crisis Nevada was famous for having no speed limits at all. I once heard a story about a guy with a muscle car zooming across the desert at somewhere around 150 mph (or so the story goes). When he stopped at a diner for lunch he was suddenly surrounded by several cops. They all offered him money to let them "Take it for a spin".

Just a story...

[Platapus]

Back before the 1970s oil crisis Nevada was famous for having no speed limits at all. I once heard a story about a guy with a muscle car zooming across the desert at somewhere around 150 mph (or so the story goes). When he stopped at a diner for lunch he was suddenly surrounded by several cops. They all offered him money to let them "Take it for a spin".

Just a story...

Could be true. But in my limited experience police understand how dangerous high speed driving is on public roads as they are often the first on the scene when someone hits a bug at warp 2.

Maybe we need more race tracks that are properly maintained and controlled where people can have their fun in a safe and controlled environment.

[Red October1984]

Maybe we need more race tracks that are properly maintained and controlled where people can have their fun in a safe and controlled environment.

Expansion on autocross events could help with that some. It's usually 50 bucks or less and you can throttle your car out without the law looking over your shoulder. It's often done in a large open concrete pad so you don't have to worry about understeering into a wall or spinning out.

EDIT: You don't even have to have special cars or equipment. At all of my local events all safety equipment is provided if you race in the lower classes. Usually just a helmet.

I LOVE road courses...but it's so expensive to go on a track day. :doh:

[GT182]

Hennessy is saying they'll boost the HP in the Demon to 1500.

Now when is eouugh enough and the government stops the HP Wars? Or like back in the 70s the Insurance companies put the slam on cars on the highways with high HP.