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Onkel Neal
12-20-16, 10:40 PM
PC trumped again, Navy going to cut out the silly rating-revisions. :Kaleun_Applaud:

https://www.navytimes.com/articles/ratings-restored-effective-immediately-sailors-will-get-their-job-titles-back

Navy leaders are reversing their controversial decision to eliminate sailors’ ratings and will restore job titles across the fleet, according to a Navy message set for release Wednesday.

Effective immediately, enlisted sailors will officially regain their ratings, the traditional job titles that have inspired a deep cultural loyalty and that have defined enlisted career tracks for generations, Navy officials said.

The move comes three months after the Navy stunned sailors around the world in September by eliminated ratings titles, including those such as boatswain’s mate that dated back to the founding of the service.

The extraordinarily rare move comes after a fierce backlash from the fleet that became a distraction from the Navy's broader effort to reform the antiquated personnel system, Navy officials said.

Adm. John Richardson, the chief of naval operations, called it a “course correction” and acknowledged the overwhelmingly negative reaction from the fleet was a key factor in the decision.

Oberon
12-20-16, 11:17 PM
How is the simplification and modernisation of employment titles PC? :hmmm:

em2nought
12-21-16, 01:14 AM
No more Chinese Route Navy? Good! Dumb $H!#$ should have more important things to sit around thinking about. :Kaleun_Applaud:

This would have just been more work for engineering ratings, or any intelligent ratings for that matter. Deck division certainly isn't going to rig up shore power, unless you all want to get fried. :03:

Cross training in the Navy means more work for smart people less work for dumb people, but equal pay for both. IMHO

Squeaky(whiny) wheels getting the grease

Now get that second class out of khakis, wtf?

Aktungbby
12-21-16, 01:25 AM
A naval rating is an enlisted member of a country's navy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navy), subordinate to warrant officers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_officer) and officers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Officer_(armed_forces)) hence not conferred by commission (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commissioned_officer) or warrant (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_(law)). The naval term comes from the general nautical usage of rating - a seaman's class or grade as recorded in the ship's books,[ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_rating#cite_note-1) In short, two rules: a general pride in one's military specialty and pay grade-generally attractively represented by a good lookin' uniform insignia; and "if it ain't broke don't fix it!" Military personnel take pride in their 'rating' the system adapted from the British works...( jus' dandy for 241 years!) just fine; no need to alter it. Every service branch has its culture and tradition; often a source of enlistment incentive-none more so than the US Navy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Navy_ratings (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Navy_ratings)

Jimbuna
12-21-16, 06:55 AM
Common sense and a return to the age-old tradition.
http://i.imgur.com/n7WQxTJ.gif

Onkel Neal
12-21-16, 07:39 AM
The changes are the result of an eight-month review initiated by Navy Secretary Ray Mabus in January in as part of an effort to make job titles gender neutral as women entered previously closed fields.

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/09/29/hello-seaman-navy-ditches-ratings-system-after-review.html

Rockstar
12-21-16, 09:35 AM
cant make rate? go boatswains mate!

Mr Quatro
12-21-16, 11:47 AM
I heard that the only rate they couldn't figure out how to change was the 'Seaman' rate ... kind of funny to blame it on the gender gap. :yep:

Mike Abberton
12-21-16, 03:12 PM
I wonder how much money was spent on this boondoggle. First to do the study to come up with the idea. Then to start remaking all the uniforms/patches, and now to put them all back again.

Your government in action.

Mike

Oberon
12-21-16, 04:03 PM
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/09/29/hello-seaman-navy-ditches-ratings-system-after-review.html

Gotcha, that wasn't covered in the first article.

Stupid idea, and if you asked most women in the fleet they'd tell you the same thing I'd wager. :haha:

Wolferz
12-23-16, 09:28 PM
I wonder how much money was spent on this boondoggle. First to do the study to come up with the idea. Then to start remaking all the uniforms/patches, and now to put them all back again.

Your government in action.

Mike
Military intelligence:doh: Duuuhhh!