Samsung on fire, introducing the Galaxy Note 14

[Skybird]

http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/5/13175000/samsung-galaxy-note-7-fire-replacement-plane-battery-southwest

2x7=14. Cheap humour of mine, sorry.

I probably never will understand why some people spend hundreds and hundreds on a telephone every year or every second year. Reminds me of the dress code in the Capitol of Panem: to me its all ga-ga.

[Torplexed]

Nasty news for Samsung. If these smart phone incidents keep up, the South Korean economy may go up in smoke too.

[Jimbuna]

There is always a competitor out there waiting to take any advantage they can.

[MaDef]

http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/5/13175000/samsung-galaxy-note-7-fire-replacement-plane-battery-southwest

2x7=14. Cheap humour of mine, sorry.

I probably never will understand why some people spend hundreds and hundreds on a telephone every year or every second year. Reminds me of the dress code in the Capitol of Panem: to me its all ga-ga. I own a note 7, and in my defense I use it more as a pda than a phone, and the reason I bought it was to replace my note 3 that quit working.

since the problem seems to be limited to about .0008% of the phones they are recalling, odds of the phone exploding is an acceptable risk until I get a chance to swap it out at the AT&T store.

[mapuc]

For a very long time I had problems with my HTC Wildfire smartphone. I was looking a new and better phone, but forget that I would pay hundred of dollars for smartphone after some searching and some advice from my Little sister I bought

Dancell Vina price 165 $

And I'm very pleased with this phone.

Markus

[Skybird]

My smart phone.

http://cdn.phonemore.com/content/2012/jpg/774.jpg
Smart enough since ten years to stay offline 330 days per year. Thats why it survived my ownership and actually became these ten years old. :D

[Dowly]

Mine:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BHeomd3TRUc/U3Gx08lOKSI/AAAAAAAACco/JOieFUCmaHo/s1600/Samsung+Xcover+271+Flash+Files+Download.jpg
The Samsung Xcover 271. Been dropped multiple times, have taken a swim in my pocket a couple of times, have been submerged in a pint of beer once (and washed afterwards under running water), and everything works just fine. :up:

[Skybird]

^It has "2.0" written on it - pfffft, looser phone. Can't afford the original, eh?

:woot:

[STEED]

I have a cheap nasty phone still going strong and none of that crap that people fall for. Bought my mobile back in 2009 and still working unlike my mate who has gone though so many smart phones I have lost count.

[Skybird]

To me there is an even stronger argument against samsung devices than just exploding batteries, that is the extreme intense pollution with forceware and crapware that cannot be deleted/deinstalled. With Samsung, this is especially bad, only few companies score as bad in this category as the Koreans do. I have a 12" Galaxy Tab and in principle I like it, technically. But I would not buy Samsung mobile devices like this again. No tablets. Not smartphones.

Plus it is Android/Google running this.

If I would consider to get a smartphone, I would chose one of the few Linux-based alternatives.

We get pushed more and more into the corner by this advertising and profiling and survceillance nightmare. Why do not more people say No to all this? I cannot get it. Maybe I am a genetic mutation.

[Aktungbby]

Bought my mobile back in 2009 and still working unlike my mate who has gone though so many smart phones I have lost count. HEAR HEAR! I'm still (a decade +:hmmm:) using this BBY for work in the fieldhttp://cdn3.volusion.com/qyzvt.cwfvv/v/vspfiles/photos/lgvx8300-5T.jpg?1396389229 as it has great speakers for the half-deaf; and blue-tooths to my nifty Jabra visor-speaker while driving- as per the law. (All the high tech I can stand!:oops:) Mostly, with a new Verizon tablet and mancave's WIN-7 computer, it simply saves me (age 65) new-tech learning headaches in the 21 century...I had gotten a newer 'flip' phone four years ago on my high-tech savvy daughter's urging, but the speakers weren't as good; so I reactivated the old one; the newer one sits in reserve in my car console: always charged.:subsim: wisdom: U can always use '911' even on an unactivated phone.

[Betonov]

I have an actuall smart phone and while I do miss the simplicity and the couple days lasting battery, I am never going back.
I love photography and preffer my 8 megapixel to the 16 pixel I had in high school.
Work can be boring at times, so the less picturesque parts of hiking so I can't imagine going somewhere without my audiobooks.
I don't do well on long trips so I love my internet connections so I can youtube or read articles while forcing myself to sit still for more than 10min.
And I am bored easily around normal people so I wouldn't replace my phone for a phone that can't run Farming Simulator for anything.

And the hours of boredom and nervous outbursts prevented more than compensates the price of the phone.

[Skybird]

Honestly said you sound like a candidate for some serious therapy. ;)

Personally I cannot get used to the sight of over half of the people in busses and trains staring at their cellphones like zombies, or even when walking on the street. Or pulling them out to check what important stuff they have missed every 5 minutes.

And when somebody enters a room or a train or bus or sits on a bank to wait for the train, the first thing he does after having sat down is check his smartphone.

Something is out of balance there. As a former clinical psychologist I see the behaviour of junkies there, and with many of the behavioural characteristics of "craving".

No personal attack tried or intended, Betonov. Just making a strong counter-point: the former meditation teacher in me gets dizzy from rolling his eyes.

[Takeda Shingen]

My Galaxy S5 is fantastic. Runs without issue. Haven't lost a hand yet.

[Schroeder]

I'm still using my Nokia 1208.
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/54/1012554/3238356234666531.jpg

I can definitely see why people would want smartphones but it's just not worth it for me at the moment and I'm not sure I could get used to not having a battery stand by time of 10 days.:D

[Eichhörnchen]

Nasty news for Samsung. If these smart phone incidents keep up, the South Korean economy may go up in smoke too.

Why can't one of these smart-asses invent a fire-extinguisher app?

[Betonov]

Personally I cannot get used to the sight of over half of the people in busses and trains staring at their cellphones like zombies, or even when walking on the street. Or pulling them out to check what important stuff they have missed every 5 minutes.

And when somebody enters a room or a train or bus or sits on a bank to wait for the train, the first thing he does after having sat down is check his smartphone.


Compared to staring like a zombie at an old chewing gum stuck to the seat in front ??
Or newspaper, school book, regular book ??

What you people fail to understand is that we donst stare at static. Teens may watch crap and social media. Some of us read the news from the phone or articles about anything interests us. Or talk to friends and family.

And please Sky, you're the absolute last person on this forum that has any moral right to tell others that we need therapy.

[Skybird]

But maybe I am one of the most qualified persons on this board to recognise classical addictive behaviour. ;)

But then I am also the guy who calls social media as anti-social media.

Recently there was a report on a man however, who for unknown reason stared into emtpy space.

http://diw.adpo.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/starren-600x508.jpg

[Skybird]

Samsung meanwhile once again told customers to shut down their cellphones. :D Cold withdrawal, so to speak.

edit: P.S. And Samsung announced that the selling and production of the burning cellphone is being discontinued from immediately on. That was it, then. Worst possible accident.

[Catfish]

I would agree that the name "social media" is a joke, it clearly supports and leads to anti-social behaviour.
@Betonov this is not what you mean, looking at it from time to time for information or checking a map for trecking, this is using the mobile to text and "share" (better: show off) e.g. all the time during a meal, or at a meeting, thus disregarding the physical presence of others.

Looking at Facebook with (people being people) ranting, sheer hate and insulting, or trying to put your fellow worker or student into a certain corner so all can kick him, this is not "social" at all.
What they call "freedom of expression" is nothing than an invitation for endless ranting, in your small corner of the web.

The only thing why you do not see so much of it, is tailored information. You only get what they think you want to see, based on your click behaviour and the sites you visit, so what you see is delusional crap, only supporting your point of view. Just like with Google ads i might say.
As soon as you join other discussion areas you see what really is going on.
"Once i wished i could read the minds of the people. Then came Facebook ... now i do not want to any more."

Mark Suckerberg initially invented his platform for young guys, to publicly "discuss" and criticize the looks and bodies of their female fellow students on – "Facebook" – lmao. I really wonder how this disgusting platform could grow in such a way, and especially what Mark and those other suckers at silicone valley think what they are doing, to our future.

Rant closed, ok :03:

[Oberon]

Ah, we playing the old 'Them millennials and their gadgetry' game again?

http://i.lvme.me/2ioosox.jpg

[moose1am]

I could have easily bought the Note 7 but I chose the older Note 4. The Note 4 had a rechargeable battery that can be changed wirelessly and it can be replace by ME. I can replace the Note 4's battery with a new one easily by taking the plastic back off the phone and taking the old battery out and putting a new one in. I don't have to take it to the store to do this.

I'm running all the features that I need. The phone of course it what I bought a cell phone for. My older flip type cell phone developed a problem with the charging port. I could not get the charger to fit into the port anymore due to some damage to the wires inside the port. I had two external battery chargers and two batteries for the flip phone that I used but one day I got a bill from my land mine phone company (AT&T) with a 400 dollar bill for long distance changes that I didn't own. I decided to get rid of AT&T and buy a new smartphone and then get all my phone needs done by Verizon and the new smart phone. I ended up keeping the AT&T account and the land mine for a while. AT&T agreed to drop the $400 long distance charges on my account. I'll get rid of AT&T later after I learn to use the smart phone.

So far the phone doesn't even get hot when I charge it at a fast rate. I can plug it into a mini USB plug and then into a wall socket at home or into the cigarette lighter in the car. Or I can simply put in on a stand at about 40 Degrees upright and it charges though the back of the phone wirelessly. I had to buy a new back for my phone to make it wirelessly charge. But it was relatively inexpensive. I was told that the Note 5 was not as good as the Note 4 because the battery was sealed inside the phone and you had to take the phone back to the dealer to get a new battery installed. The Note 5 is water resistant but I don't allow my Note 4 to go swimming .

It's a two year old phone but it's one of their best. It has the stylus which I love. I can write notes on the home screen and save them to a file in the phone. I can take excellent photos. I don't' have to lung my heavy DSLR camera and bag around with me to take high resolution pictures. I have a calendar which acts like a day planner which I love. I use that feature all the time. And it syncs with my Windows 10 on my notebook computer too. So all my appointments are easily seen from all my computing devices. If I make a change on one devise it shows up on the others.

:Kaleun_Cheers:

[Wolferz]

Which these days is like saying common sense is common.

Don't buy a phone made in a ROK sweatshop.

Get the one made in a Chines sweatshop. I did.:O:

[Betonov]

Recently there was a report on a man however, who for unknown reason stared into emtpy space.

http://diw.adpo.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/starren-600x508.jpg

My favourite activity when I was waiting for trains before my smart phone. Countring railroad ties. It got boring after the 35th turn, the number never changed.
And the mans hands are hidden, maybe he has a phone in his hands.


Sky, for your overbloated ego you sure have a simple mind.
Because there are angsty teens that dig themselves into screens it also means others that found a use for these new gadgets are addicted. Give me a break.

Since I'm going to get infracted for this I'll ad one more, how's your typewritter, some of us can't wait for you to start using something that can't connect to the internet.

[Skybird]

But at my end of the wire I have set up a posting bot just to keep guys like you happy and in never-ending supply of text stuff to stare at...

[Oberon]

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/scoobydoo/images/9/90/Robot_soldier.png/revision/latest?cb=20120814100836

"MUST...COMPLAIN...ABOUT...EVERYTHING!!"

[Betonov]

But at my end of the wire I have set up a posting bot just to keep guys like you happy and in never-ending supply of text stuff to stare at...

Well, your posts are like a car crash. Highway pileup level. Can't really look away no matter how wrong and disgusting it is.

Don't you worry your purrty little ego, I'm taking a vacation from GT. You can continue to create a cesspit out of the forum with your hatred and self righteous dribble without this slavic untermensch telling you where you can shove it.

I'll be in my garden. Goodnight y'all

[Skybird]

Take your time out there. No need to hurry with your return.

[Oberon]

Take your time out there. No need to hurry with your return.

Don't worry sweetheart, I'll never leave you. :/\\k:

[Skybird]

If only he knew that I am probably 1/8 of Slavic Untermenschen blood myself. Czech infested, to be precise. Hope one day there is some genetic blood cleaning possible. On hot days, being an 1/8 Untermensch really feels itchy behind the ears.

[Jimbuna]

Come on guys, enough of the insults.

Time for a cooling off period.

[Onkel Neal]

No need to make this personal. Some people are irritated by new social behavior. Others see nothing wrong with it. Let them make their comments, as long as its not topic spamming rants.

[Buddahaid]

Sure we do and I do. I look at GT like a local watering hole where the patrons BS, vent gripes, talk serious, and have occasional bar fights. The best part being the locals are an international mix. Cheers!:Kaleun_Cheers:

[Sailor Steve]

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/SubSim_zpsldxqmjab.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/SailorSteve/media/SubSim_zpsldxqmjab.jpg.html)

[Aktungbby]

Getting back on thread :subsim::yeah:: This just in yesterday's paper; u cannot carry the fire-prone Samsung aboard some commercial aircraft.:doh:https://techcrunch.com/2016/09/16/faa-note/ (https://techcrunch.com/2016/09/16/faa-note/) http://qz.com/778146/an-airline-ban-of-the-samsung-galaxy-note-7-would-be-a-nightmare-to-enforce/ (http://qz.com/778146/an-airline-ban-of-the-samsung-galaxy-note-7-would-be-a-nightmare-to-enforce/) EDIT: The phone is banned on all US flights as of Saturday; they will B confiscated and violators face a $180,000 fine. European airlines still allow them : turned off. There have been 92 incidents of overheating thus far.

[Aktungbby]

Samsung SELF-TESTED ITS OWN BATTERIES! :k_confused:http://www.androidheadlines.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-7-Fire-Explode-AH-NS-07.jpg
The batteries used in Samsung Electronics (http://quotes.wsj.com/SSNHZ) Co. troubled Galaxy Note 7 were tested by a lab that belongs to the South Korean electronics giant, a practice that sets it apart from other smartphone manufacturers.:doh:
To sell smartphones at major U.S. carriers, phone makers are required to test phone batteries at one of the 28 labs certified by the U.S. wireless industry’s trade group, the CTIA, to ensure compliance with standards set by the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers.
Samsung is the only such manufacturer using in-house battery-testing facilities for CTIA certification, according to the association.
In a statement Friday, Samsung said its plans to make “significant changes” in its quality-assurance processes in light of the Note 7 crisis. Samsung declined to comment on whether it has plans to use third-party labs for battery testing.:oops:
Tom Sawanobori, the chief technology officer at the CTIA, said the association audits test labs to ensure personnel are qualified, that they comply with standards, and that there is no undue influence from manufacturers. Test labs are typically in separate facilities and under separate control, he said.
“We’ve certified over 1,500 batteries,” he said. “This is the first time we’ve had an issue.”
Last week, engineers from CTIA certification labs gathered in Atlanta for an annual meetup. While the scuttlebutt was focused on what could be behind the Note 7’s battery problem, a CTIA representative told the gathering that neither the group nor Samsung would discuss it, two attendees said.
In the early 2000s, as cellphones were proliferating around the globe, a flood of cheap batteries from inexperienced manufacturers caused increasing failures, battery experts say. In response, the CTIA, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission and the IEEE worked together in 2005 to create a voluntary program for battery testing, which the CTIA administers.
Eddie Forouzan, a member of the IEEE committee that developed the battery standard, says the process significantly reduced problems, and that safety failure rates in cellphone batteries went from being measured by the parts per million to the parts per billion. There have been at least 92 reports of batteries overheating in the Note 7, which went on sale in August.
Mr. Forouzan, who now runs his own lab in San Diego, says letting manufacturers test their own phones creates the potential for conflicts of interest.:timeout:
John Copeland, who used to work for Motorola’s lab and now helps run a test lab in Atlanta, said it was normal for cellphone makers to use their own labs because it helps the companies protect trade secrets.
Phone makers are “very concerned about their proprietary information leaking out,” he said. Mr. Copeland said the audits were sufficient to ensure there wasn’t a conflict of interest.
Jason Howard, chair of the IEEE working group that wrote the battery certification standard, said that “on the outside that might make people nervous that a company is self certifying, but that’s common practice on a lot of standards.” Companies that use their own labs can get products out to market faster than if they had to wait in a queue at an outside test lab, Mr. Howard said.
Samsung has been testing phones at its internal CTIA-certified lab since 2009.
For CTIA certification, smartphone batteries are tested on their own and while being operated inside a device, says Kim Tae-young, director at the Korea Testing Laboratory, the only other CTIA-certified battery testing lab in South Korea. The tests mainly focus on whether batteries work properly while a phone is being charged or used for calls, which is when they are most likely to heat up. “We also put batteries in high temperatures that simulate summer conditions to monitor potential overheating or combustion hazards,” he said
A spokesman for Samsung said Thursday that it is “working around the clock” to identify causes for why some Note 7 devices caught fire and that it was “premature” to speculate on investigation outcomes.
Mr. Forouzan said he hopes Samsung quickly releases details about how the batteries failed so experts can determine if safety tests need to be improved. “They have to tell us what happened so we can fix it.”
Bottom Line: "Greed is Good"; nuthin' bad goes outta style either...:doh: It's amazing: thus far no one is dead; ie an entire aircraft for example...:up: The first incident was on an aircraft when the phone overheated was hastily dropped and then burned through the aircraft's floor carpet.