View Full Version : Erwin Rommel as peacekeeper
A friend posted this on his wall and I thought you had to see and hear this with your own eyes and ears
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImY0dMK_Upg
I frankly don't know what to say.
Markus
I liked the part where absolutely no one seemed to know anything about Rommel in the video.
Jimbuna
10-04-16, 05:48 AM
I shouldn't laugh really because I remember asking my kids when they were at school age which side Japan was on during WWII and neither had a clue.
The history of WWII was simply not taught to them at school.
Von Due
10-04-16, 06:52 AM
I shouldn't laugh really because I remember asking my kids when they were at school age which side Japan was on during WWII and neither had a clue.
The history of WWII was simply not taught to them at school.
No kidding. History, it seems, is 2 weeks ago, tops, when you were born, if you're a pro DIY historian. I kid you not, some kids here answered Iraq and North Korea when the question was "which nations made up the Axis powers during WW2?". I'm surprised they didn't ask back "whaaah? They used axes in WW2?" :har:
Well, I learnt about WWII in school, so perhaps the problem is that it's taught but no-one is listening. :hmmm:
Rockstar
10-04-16, 09:14 AM
Rommel was a soldier.
Id like to see the civilians who send these soldiers to fight the wars they start. I think Edward Robert Lytton Bulwer-Lytton, 1st Earl of Lytton would be a great choice, he's got skills, and a Lord which is a lot better than a lowly general, it would be a hoot. :Kaleun_Cheers:
http://i.imgur.com/1P3pWmZ.jpg
Betonov
10-04-16, 12:15 PM
Media at it's finest.
Shove the microphone into someones face while minding their own business and then out of 200 people showing only 5 of those that were either too shocked about the sudden intrusion into personal space or genuine idiots.
If a journalist did that to me I'd look like a mute because I'd be thinking about non-violent reactions to the microphone and camera wielding morons in front of me.
Schroeder
10-04-16, 12:50 PM
If a journalist did that to me I'd look like a mute because I'd be thinking about non-violent reactions to the microphone and camera wielding morons in front of me.
But that doesn't involve Kukris....:doh:
Betonov
10-04-16, 01:59 PM
But that doesn't involve Kukris....:doh:
The last thing I want is the media here opening a debate on our lax knife laws.
Flash a kukri once and the population will get a regular brain wash until the laws state I cant own anything sharper than a mushroom
Catfish
10-04-16, 02:17 PM
I think from all those people who fought and committed atrocities in WW2 Rommel will not be getting the badest of ranks, especially but not only because partaking in the assassination of he who may not be named.
Apart from that i would like to think of Rommel fight in Syria with state-of-the-art weapons, against the IS and Assad right now. In contrast to the current western "peacekeeping" he might accomplish something, and maybe even without attacking hospitals and killing civilians.
Regarding this video .. meh. Ask them if they would like to see Churchill commanding the ground troops in Syria.
u crank
10-04-16, 03:30 PM
I have two children in their mid 30's. I would bet my next weeks pay that either one of them doesn't know who Erwin Rommel was.
I try to remember my own school days and what we learned about WWII in history class
The only thing i can remember-when it started-German started then England and France declared war
Germany attack Russia
Japan attack USA
War ends in Europe
War ends in Pacific
But we didn't learn that much about generals, only who was in lead in major countries, like USA, England, Germany
It was my own huge interest in history, war history that made me search for more info about the war, that I read about Erwin Rommel and other German, English, American generals.( I didn't read so much about the Russian)
So the question is how much do we want the youth to know about WWII and how detailed has it to be ?
Markus
Jimbuna
10-04-16, 04:03 PM
I have two children in their mid 30's. I would bet my next weeks pay that either one of them doesn't know who Erwin Rommel was.
If they're anything like my two (mid 20's) I'd wager you were correct.
Rockstar
10-04-16, 04:03 PM
Meh, its best they forget. Its always easier to mold them into what you want if they dont remember the past.
Eichhörnchen
10-04-16, 06:17 PM
It was painful to watch. I think I mentioned once before that my American nephew, on telling a school classmate about his relatives in England, was asked what language we speak :o
Another great example of journalistic/intellectual rigor from a conservative medium...:stare:
At the very beginning he explains to his audience who was Erwin Rommel with Wikipedia article, quote and video footage keeping in mind that the viewer may not know who was that WWII General.
Of course, everyone on this forum knows who he was. But what about HIS audience, why did he show all those images from WWII?? or just be honest and show the same images to the students.
Ridiculous :nope:
Nippelspanner
10-04-16, 06:31 PM
Media at it's finest.
Shove the microphone into someones face while minding their own business and then out of 200 people showing only 5 of those that were either too shocked about the sudden intrusion into personal space or genuine idiots.
And that's all there is to this nonsense, really.
There's a lot of this sort of stuff about, the whole "Oh look how stupid X are, they can't even identify Y". It's just made to make one group of people feel superior to another.
There's a lot of this sort of stuff about, the whole "Oh look how stupid X are, they can't even identify Y". It's just made to make one group of people feel superior to another.
I wonder if Trump knows who Rommel was? :lol:
Don't want to start a new debate here, just kidding...
Eichhörnchen
10-04-16, 11:42 PM
I suppose us older geezers just have to accept that the world has moved on big time, and not to expect youngsters to know the names of such as Rommel. it was extremely disingenuous of the interviewer to refer to him in the present tense and fool them into thinking he was still around.
I suppose us older geezers just have to accept that the world has moved on big time, and not to expect youngsters to know the names of such as Rommel. it was extremely disingenuous of the interviewer to refer to him in the present tense and fool them into thinking he was still around.
Journalistic tricks aside, I think it comes down to who you talk to. For example, even of the older post-war generation there will be many who have not heard of Rommel, and many in the younger generation who have. It depends not so much on age but their interests. There are a few young members on this forum and I imagine that they know who Rommel was.
Schroeder
10-05-16, 06:02 AM
Journalistic tricks aside, I think it comes down to who you talk to. For example, even of the older post-war generation there will be many who have not heard of Rommel, and many in the younger generation who have. It depends not so much on age but their interests. There are a few young members on this forum and I imagine that they know who Rommel was.
The question is also is it really important to know who Rommel was? I mean seriously why would non Germans (or even today's German) need to know a German Field Marshal from WWII? Why would any young German need to know who Patton or Montgomery were? It's not really important as long as they know who fought who in WWII and for what reason.
And if people think it's important then where do you draw the line? WWI leaders? 30 years war or all the way back to the Roman Empire?
As a matter of fact that stuff is just nice to know but nothing more. If they hadn't known who Hitler, Roosevelt, Churchill or Stalin were now THAT would have shocked me.
Betonov
10-05-16, 06:26 AM
One thing to ad to Schroeder.
All this fixation on knowing facts, but as I remember school we werent taught hiw the economy works, how to prepare for a job interwiew, grow my own food, being a cautious consumer when shopping, personal finances and preparing emergency/secondary funds in case the primary income source is shut. Or how to respond if a fammily member falls ill, proper 112 (911) call, keeping a cool head when lost or just something as basic as preparing food.
And then we laugh because people cant remember who Simon Bolivar is, while ourselves cant even check the store fruit from good to one about to expire.
Knowing history is important but knowing all the little details is pointless outside solving crosswords.
Skills should be the focus. An employer doesnt care you can point Eritrea on the map, tax department wont leave you alone over a mistake because you can whistle the entire works of Chopin and knowing Mao Zedongs birthday wont save you when you slip during mountain hikes.
Just saying.
One thing to ad to Schroeder.
All this fixation on knowing facts, but as I remember school we werent taught hiw the economy works, how to prepare for a job interwiew, grow my own food, being a cautious consumer when shopping, personal finances and preparing emergency/secondary funds in case the primary income source is shut. Or how to respond if a fammily member falls ill, proper 112 (911) call, keeping a cool head when lost or just something as basic as preparing food.
And then we laugh because people cant remember who Simon Bolivar is, while ourselves cant even check the store fruit from good to one about to expire.
Knowing history is important but knowing all the little details is pointless outside solving crosswords.
Skills should be the focus. An employer doesnt care you can point Eritrea on the map, tax department wont leave you alone over a mistake because you can whistle the entire works of Chopin and knowing Mao Zedongs birthday wont save you when you slip during mountain hikes.
Just saying. You're forgetting, book smart and common sense are two different things.
Schroeder
10-05-16, 09:44 AM
You're forgetting, book smart and common sense are two different things.
I think he isn't forgetting but actually pointing exactly that out.:03:
Betonov
10-05-16, 10:16 AM
You're forgetting, book smart and common sense are two different things.
I think he isn't forgetting but actually pointing exactly that out.:03:
Yeah, MaDef managed to compress what I said into one sentence.
For an introvert I sure do love to talk a lot :oops:
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