Test Post

[Gray Lensman]

Testing post signature

[Nippelspanner]

I'd edit that signature if I were you, it is against the rules unfortunately.
Also there's a signature preview function and you can check any former post to see how your new signature looks, no need for a new post.

[Gray Lensman]

I'd edit that signature if I were you, it is against the rules unfortunately.
Also there's a signature preview function and you can check any former post to see how your new signature looks, no need for a new post.

That was a pic of a banner embroiderd by Mush Morton himself (re: the book "Wahoo" by Richard O'Kane) with a little Mare Island added overlaid embellishment.

I saw/used the preview function, but the signature was not showing up in previous posts and since this was my first attempt at a signature picture I did the test post to see if it would show in new posts which it obviously did.

edit: Now that's interesting... A sig pic does not show up in previous posts BUT, when removed, it disappears from the post(s) that it showed up in... Every little bit of knowledge helps for the future, so this test post was more useful than I thought it would be.

[Nippelspanner]

That's weird indeed.
Anyways, the sig contained a word that would get you in trouble, I should have been more specific. Writing it a little different also doesn't help, this actually counts as 'masking' and will summon the moderator-demon-of-doom, I just tried to prevent that! :timeout:
(one shall not speak his name!)

[Dowly]

If you had no sig picture when you made your old posts, then they will not show the new sig pic either. (I think)

[Eichhörnchen]

Yes you're right about that. I never knew that. If you look at my first thread, 'CRAZY BALDHEADS' http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2235297&postcount=1 you'll see I have no squirrel sig, yet my buddy Rockstar does have his squirrel sig where he posts in that thread :)

[Nippelspanner]

One mystery down.

[Gray Lensman]

That's weird indeed.
Anyways, the sig contained a word that would get you in trouble, I should have been more specific. Writing it a little different also doesn't help, this actually counts as 'masking' and will summon the moderator-demon-of-doom, I just tried to prevent that! :timeout:
(one shall not speak his name!)

I read the forum rules after your comment. However, the masking seemed to apply to a deliberate attempt to state something different in a post by the poster. In the case of the picture, it was a close reproduction done by someone else, not me and was somewhat historically accurate other than the overlaid Mare Island info. I presume the Mare Island sub production facility was pretty darn proud of "Mush" Morton and their submarine 'Wahoo'. Back then there was no such thing as political PC crap.

The reason I decided to take it down was because of all the over indoctrinated PC younger types that cannot/will not understand the difference against true offensive behavior and historical events.

[Nippelspanner]

The reason I decided to take it down was because of all the over indoctrinated PC younger types that cannot/will not understand the difference against true offensive behavior and historical events.
I agree with you, I have no problem with that at all, quite the opposite and I debated the administration of this board on this topic a while ago as well.
However, rules are rules and they are very strict here, I just wanted to warn you.

[Jimbuna]

I read the forum rules after your comment. However, the masking seemed to apply to a deliberate attempt to state something different in a post by the poster. In the case of the picture, it was a close reproduction done by someone else, not me and was somewhat historically accurate other than the overlaid Mare Island info. I presume the Mare Island sub production facility was pretty darn proud of "Mush" Morton and their submarine 'Wahoo'. Back then there was no such thing as political PC crap.

The reason I decided to take it down was because of all the over indoctrinated PC younger types that cannot/will not understand the difference against true offensive behavior and historical events.

You can PM me the sig if you want and I'll let you know Gary.

[Eichhörnchen]

Or you can always use this one:

[Onkel Neal]

I read the forum rules after your comment. However, the masking seemed to apply to a deliberate attempt to state something different in a post by the poster. In the case of the picture, it was a close reproduction done by someone else, not me and was somewhat historically accurate other than the overlaid Mare Island info. I presume the Mare Island sub production facility was pretty darn proud of "Mush" Morton and their submarine 'Wahoo'. Back then there was no such thing as political PC crap.

The reason I decided to take it down was because of all the over indoctrinated PC younger types that cannot/will not understand the difference against true offensive behavior and historical events.

This is not a problem, that's Mush Morton's flag.

[Catfish]

This is not a problem, that's Mush Morton's flag.

+1 for historically correct graphics :03:

[Nippelspanner]

This is not a problem, that's Mush Morton's flag.
Whatever happened to the rules?
Please use language that you would use around your mother. No vulgarities, obscenities, hate speech, or foul language. Do not use *******ing w*rds with aster*cks, that's the same thing as vulgar languge.So we can say 'sons of bitches' now because your patriotism got stimulated, or because it is a quote/motto by someone famous? :hmmm:
Considering that others, me included, received infractions and/or warnings over the years for much less, I find it difficult to take the rules here serious if they are enforced in one case and abandoned in the next, due to lower motives or whatever excuse.

:down:

[Jimbuna]

Whatever happened to the rules?
So we can say 'sons of bitches' now because your patriotism got stimulated, or because it is a quote/motto by someone famous? :hmmm:
Considering that others, me included, received infractions and/or warnings over the years for much less, I find it difficult to take the rules here serious if they are enforced in one case and abandoned in the next, due to lower motives or whatever excuse.

:down:

Just for the record....This is nothing to do with patriotism regarding Neal because I gave the initial permission for the graphic yesterday and conveyed as such to Gray Lensman after he had sent me an example via PM as publicly requested by me on this thread.

Add to that the fact I am a British national I doubt I can be accused of being overly patriotic on the subject matter.

My reason for coming to said decision is because the words in the graphic are not proscribed words according to the SubSim language bot. Therefore I can detect no breach of the forum rules.

Neal has posted after the event because I informed him of my decision on TS less than an hour ago.

[Aktungbby]

Saying Sunzabitches is an admissable play on words as the ample rising suns on the banner constitute the 'pun'; As Neal (CONAN:O:) points out: that is the flag and if the rule is to B vigorously enforced, we also could not say :"Damn the torpedoes" by https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Admiral_Farragut2.jpg/220px-Admiral_Farragut2.jpg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Admiral_Farragut2.jpg)<ADM David Farragut, ironically the first commandant of Mare Island...he'd probably approved of Mush's flag! His Lashed to mast broom was the better flag (imho) https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/WahooBroom.jpg Naturally Farragut, being short of brooms, had to make do at the climatic battle of Mobile Bay...and lashed himself to mast!https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/David_Farragut_WWI_poster.jpg and that's why http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/ironclads2_bunner_v3.jpg (http://www.totemgames.ru/) is a big :subsim: seller!:D:/\\!!

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Okay, fine. Writing it isn't okay, historical piece with same stuff is. Where do you draw the line?

Owner of the house sets the rules - thats fine - but as a guest it would be nice to know.

(...and for the record: I don't have problem with Mush's flag...)

[Sailor Steve]

Okay, fine. Writing it isn't okay, historical piece with same stuff is. Where do you draw the line?
No, it's not. I guess you missed it. "Sunzabitches" is okay, not because of a distinction between writing it here and posting a historical piece, but because of the word itself. "Bitch" is obviously not a proscribed word, because I (or Nippelspanner) can write it and the autobot won't censor it. The picture is okay because the website says the word is okay. We have several times asked people to take down images that had much worse language, or graphic pictures. We have also sometimes edited the posts ourselves. We have also infracted people for violating those rules, mostly in cases where the member has ignored repeated requests and warnings and pushed the issue beyond what we felt was reasonable.

If you want to know whether the word is okay, send it to yourself in a PM. If it gets censored, then don't use it. If not, it's okay.

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

No, it's not. I guess you missed it. "Sunzabitches" is okay, not because of a distinction between writing it here and posting a historical piece, but because of the word itself. "Bitch" is obviously not a proscribed word, because I (or Nippelspanner) can write it and the autobot won't censor it. The picture is okay because the website says the word is okay. We have several times asked people to take down images that had much worse language, or graphic pictures. We have also sometimes edited the posts ourselves. We have also infracted people for violating those rules, mostly in cases where the member has ignored repeated requests and warnings and pushed the issue beyond what we felt was reasonable.True, I misread it somehow. Also missed Aktungbby's post where it was written in black on white (or actually white on black with high-contrast). :doh:

If you want to know whether the word is okay, send it to yourself in a PM. If it gets censored, then don't use it. If not, it's okay.Didn't know that censorship feature extends to PMs. Thanks Steve!

[Dowly]

If you want to know whether the word is okay, send it to yourself in a PM. If it gets censored, then don't use it. If not, it's okay.
Easier to preview your post, that works too.

[Nippelspanner]

Just for the record....This is nothing to do with patriotism regarding Neal...
Right Jim, that's probably why he said: This is not a problem, that's Mush Morton's flag.But of course, now it is suddenly OK because "the filter doesn't contain it". If that's what makes a difference, this place could get a lot more... colorful in the future.
The actual rules don't say anything about the filter, they are absolutely clear that Subsim enforces a zero-tolerance doctrine on this.

Either, some here don't know their own rules, or the own rules are being circumvented to make an arbitrary exception, yet no one is honest about it.
Both is simply not okay.

[Onkel Neal]

That is Mush Morton's flag, isn't it? How does patriotism have anything to do with visual recognition of a historical artifact?

Anyway, don't get so excited about rules, man, this isn't the KGB.

[Nippelspanner]

That is Mush Morton's flag, isn't it? How does patriotism have anything to do with visual recognition of a historical artifact?You might say that, but that won't change my initial impression at all. The reason for it to be OK was "that is Mush Morton's flag". What if not patriotism is the factor when you chose this words, when the exception is made due to the fact that this is some flag of some US soldier from WW2, when under other circumstances, it would not be OK?

But it doesn't matter anyways in the end, the why isn't important -I just happen to notice this strange reasoning.
But that's my problem of course, don't worry.

Anyway, don't get so excited about rules, man, this isn't the KGB.Thank you for supporting what I just said.
First, Subsim has a strict zero-tolerance doctrine that also was enforced by Steve for years, even in the most trivial cases... and now the admin says "who cares".

Rather mind blowing.

Edit: It's your board. Do what you want. However, don't expect anyone to take this place's rules serious if they are broken randomly and no one has the balls to admit it and rather fishes for excuses.

[Sailor Steve]

Easier to preview your post, that works too.
A good point, and one that I continually forget. :oops:

[Onkel Neal]

You might say that, but that won't change my initial impression at all. The reason for it to be OK was "that is Mush Morton's flag". What if not patriotism is the factor when you chose this words, when the exception is made due to the fact that this is some flag of some US soldier from WW2, when under other circumstances, it would not be OK?

But it doesn't matter anyways in the end, the why isn't important -I just happen to notice this strange reasoning.
But that's my problem of course, don't worry.

Thank you for supporting what I just said.
First, Subsim has a strict zero-tolerance doctrine that also was enforced by Steve for years, even in the most trivial cases... and now the admin says "who cares".

Rather mind blowing.

Edit: It's your board. Do what you want. However, don't expect anyone to take this place's rules serious if they are broken randomly and no one has the balls to admit it and rather fishes for excuses.

Whatever man.

[Gray Lensman]

This post has turned up some rather interesting information on "how-to"'s of different posting items. Aside from the PC discussion on what is to be determined offensive or not, the techniques here for determining such things before an actual post is useful to know.

Since this is a test post garnering such comments and I started it as the OP, there is something else I'd like to know that I've always failed to ask in numerous forums over the years for one reason or another and if someone could demonstrate to me here how to do it, this is a most appropriate thread for me to be shown how to do it also.

Example:

Ive noticed in a great many posts that posters are able to embed a hyperlink into an underlined word commonly using here for example, instead of placing the entire ugly http//example.com/blahblah text in their post. Just how the heck is that accomplished?

p.s. anyone else having questions on how to do something with posting that they don't know about, feel free to use this thread to ask... won't bother me in the least bit.

[HunterICX]

Since this is a test post garnering such comments and I started it as the OP, there is something else I'd like to know that I've always failed to ask in numerous forums over the years for one reason or another and if someone could demonstrate to me here how to do it, this is a most appropriate thread for me to be shown how to do it also.

Example:

Ive noticed in a great many posts that posters are able to embed a hyperlink into an underlined word commonly using here for example, instead of placing the entire ugly http//example.com/blahblah text in their post. Just how the heck is that accomplished?

p.s. anyone else having questions on how to do something with posting that they don't know about, feel free to use this thread to ask... won't bother me in the least bit.

You type the following

[*url=http://www.subsim.com/index.php]Click here![/url] (Remove the * ) and you get :

Click here! (http://www.subsim.com/index.php)

[Onkel Neal]

Or you can highlight some text in your post, click the http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/smartdark/createlink.gif button, then paste the URL in and click ok.

[Gray Lensman]

You type the following

[*url=http://www.subsim.com/index.php]Click here![/url] (Remove the * ) and you get :

Click here! (http://www.subsim.com/index.php)

Thanks for the almost immediate response. I knew it would be something simple like that but I just could not seem to find an example that worked.

Or you can highlight some text in your post, click the http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/smartdark/createlink.gif button, then paste the URL in and click ok.

Oh, that's even better!

Here goes! Testing a link (http://www.subsim.com) here.

edit: Obviously the button idea is used the most because it does not show the actual link test in the edit box... Now I know why I couldn't see an example in anything I looked at.

[HunterICX]

Oh, that's even better!

It's magic! :o
I didn't even know that the http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/smartdark/createlink.gif button worked like that.

Here goes! Testing a link (http://www.subsim.com) here.:up: You got it!

[Dowly]

Obviously the button idea is used the most because it does not show the actual link test in the edit box... Now I know why I couldn't see an example in anything I looked at.
You can switch the editor mode to show the 'raw' format of the post:
http://i.imgur.com/NiXt5Aw.jpg

[Gray Lensman]

You can switch the editor mode to show the 'raw' format of the post:
http://i.imgur.com/NiXt5Aw.jpg

Wow! Duh! I would never have had to ask how to embed the link if I'd known how to switch modes to see examples, BUT... I'd have been doing it manually without the shortcut button. This thread is turning out to be really useful info.

Thanks again.

[Sailor Steve]

Edit: It's your board. Do what you want. However, don't expect anyone to take this place's rules serious if they are broken randomly and no one has the balls to admit it and rather fishes for excuses.

The last time you received an infraction for a language violation, it was because you intentionally used one letter so there was no mistaking your meaning, and then tried to make a joke about "almost typing it out". In other words, you violated the rules on purpose just to see what reaction you would get. There's nothing random about that.

You can't play that game and then turn around and complain about it being unfair.

[Nippelspanner]

The last time you received an infraction for a language violation, it was because you intentionally used one letter so there was no mistaking your meaning, and then tried to make a joke about "almost typing it out". In other words, you violated the rules on purpose just to see what reaction you would get. There's nothing random about that.

You can't play that game and then turn around and complain about it being unfair.
That was the last incident maybe, but not the only and this isn't about me, this is about everyone here Steve, but nice try.

How is "son of a bitch" NOT violating the very clear rules we had here so far?
Whatever happened to "family friendly?"
And what about this new weird "if the filter..." thing? Why was that just made up? The actual rules don't mention it, they only say to refrain from any kind of 'language' and if son of a bitch isn't among it, I don't know what is.

[Eichhörnchen]

http://i.imgur.com/AbAnIYE.jpg

"Most peculiar business, this. Last week in a PM I used a four-letter word describing the past tense of soiling one's trousers and it got past the pesky bots, what?"

[Rockstar]

So what you're saying is I cannot call Nipplespanner a ***-*****, ** **** who*****'** and prefers to ***********. But the flag is OK? Thats cool with me.

[Mr Quatro]

I was just lurking when SH4 came out, but we had a similar problem with the word Jap :o

What if Mush had of said this instead (remember this is just a test):

"Shoot the Dirty Japs" :D

[Gray Lensman]

Wow... Why don't we just close this thread since the idea of discussing/testing functionality of forum posting techniques is being repeatedly yanked off topic (another forum rules violation) by other(s) not so "succinctly" determined to discuss violations of forum rules! The irony is almost dripping.

[Sailor Steve]

And what about this new weird "if the filter..." thing? Why was that just made up?
I've been giving people that same advice for years.

[Nippelspanner]

I've been giving people that same advice for years.
That's all dandy, but that is irrelevant when we have rules that are completely clear and that also don't say "if a word doesn't get censored: It is OK".

Again, how is "sons of bitches" (or anything like it) suddenly OK and not a word that clearly falls under the rules I quoted earlier?

[Rockstar]

Wow... Why don't we just close this thread since the idea of discussing/testing functionality of forum posting techniques is being repeatedly yanked off topic (another forum rules violation) by other(s) not so "succinctly" determined to discuss violations of forum rules! The irony is almost dripping.

Your right lets merge this thread and put it where it belongs! :up:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=225446&highlight=Asterisks

[Aktungbby]

Anyway, don't get so excited about rules, man, this isn't the KGB.
ONLY Below 7,000 feet BBY!:woot: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2364056#post2364056 (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2364056#post2364056) :har:

[HunterICX]

Again, how is "sons of bitches" (or anything like it) suddenly OK and not a word that clearly falls under the rules I quoted earlier?

It's always been OK to say son of a bitch on this forum:

https://www.google.es/search?q=son+of+a+bitch+site%3Asubsim.com&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab&gfe_rd=cr&ei=_53FV7O2AYbW8AfX-4CABQ

Geez..now knock it off. You're making a fuzz about absolutely nothing.

[Nippelspanner]

It's always been OK to say son of a bitch on this forum
Not according to the rules, no.

[Schroeder]

I can see where Nippelspanner is coming from. I've seen respectable members of this board receive infractions for stuff I considered laughable and now all of a sudden it's ok because some bot is not up to speed?:hmm2:

I find this a bit arbitrary too. I mean I'm personally fine with that flag and don't care much about "non family friendly language" (which I always found a bit schizophrenic anyway considering there are mods on this site that add floating corpses and death screams to the SH games...) but a bit of confusion remains. Generally if the bot doesn't know the latest "nasty word" or it's written in a way it can't detect it then it's ok to use it? I don't think that can be the answer. Either say such language, perhaps within limits, is ok or say it isn't. To hide behind that a bot couldn't detect a slightly altered insult as such is a bit hollow in my books. :88)

Just my 2 cents.

[Mr Quatro]

Wow... Why don't we just close this thread since the idea of discussing/testing functionality of forum posting techniques is being repeatedly yanked off topic (another forum rules violation) by other(s) not so "succinctly" determined to discuss violations of forum rules! The irony is almost dripping.

Let the little girl dance is an old song of the 60's ... you can't find a thread in GT that doesn't get headed in the wrong direction. For awhile there every thread would have the "O" word in it somewhere (meaning Obama of course)

Let the little girl dance :D

[Moonlight]

Who are in control of these bot things anyway, the admin\moderators, the forum software devs, google, it could even be a little old lady working from her living room for all I know, clarification is needed me thinks. :yep:

[Oberon]

What about the flag (http://i.imgur.com/cY82gpo.jpg) for Landing Craft Tank 157 (http://i.imgur.com/kDwsB03.jpg)? :hmmm:

[HunterICX]

Nope, because you can't write ****.

[Eichhörnchen]

That happens to have been the unofficial motto of The Royal Corps of Signals (real motto: Swift And Sure). My father-in-law and a neighbour, who both served in the Corps, told me that years ago.

[Oberon]

Nope, because you can't write ****.

Can't see it either, but you knew that already.

http://i.imgur.com/esqXVmN.jpg?1