Noah's Ark Replica

[Feuer Frei!]

it's like building one of these:

http://www.timisoaramuzicala.ro/images/hansel1.jpg


Sinking time and resources into nonsense.

Although it's always nice to see something shaking up Scientists.


Nathaniel Jeanson is a Harvard-educated biologist. For the past year, he has been involved in a spectacular $100 million project, designed to educate and astonish the world

SOURCE (https://arkencounter.com/)

[Catfish]

Nathaniel Jeanson is a Harvard-educated biologist. [...]
What do they teach about biology and evolution, in Harvard? :hmmm:

To "educate" the world, like with the creation museum?! :doh:
"Whatever floats your boat", but i bet it even doesn't.
In other news it was said that this "ark" is the perfect example, why this story with Noah has some weak points..
But it seems it's only a theme park.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7CSEEtzGiY
:03:

[AVGWarhawk]

Who cares what is built in KY? It could use the tourist dollars. Enough said.

[Aktungbby]

What do they teach about biology and evolution, in Harvard? :hmmm:

To "educate" the world, like with the creation museum?! :doh:
"Whatever floats your boat", but i bet it even doesn't.
In other news it was said that this "ark" is the perfect example, why this story with Noah has some weak points..
But it seems it's only a theme park.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7CSEEtzGiY
:03:

THAT LINK IS NOT AVAIALABLE IN MY COUNTRY This video contains content from Canal Plus. It is not available in your country. Sorry about that. :stare:

[Buddahaid]

Can't be a replica unless you know what it looked like and how it was made in the first place.

[Betonov]

Can't be a replica unless you know what it looked like and how it was made in the first place.

Apparently with fiberglass, mill processed wood and power tools

[Mittelwaechter]

Probably way more advanced - to store the genetic material of the whole planet.

[fireftr18]

It's just down the street from me. I honestly don't understand why people are so big against it. It's built entirely from private funds and is a for profit theme park and petting zoo. It doesn't get any special tax breaks. It complies with all the same laws as other similar businesses. It is meant as a religious based educational park. The purpose is to teach and display the Biblical version of the Noah's Ark story. It also has general nature and conservation teachings also. The ark itself is not an exact replica, nor is it meant to be. It is built to the exact dimensions mentioned in The Bible. The purpose is to show just how enormous the boat was.
https://arkencounter.com/

[Armistead]

Ark or not, the story or Noah's ark ask as in science is silly. One, take the biblical year of the flood, the world's 5 greatest civilizations were thriving with their own written history. 100's of years previous, during and after the flood date story. Add, they're numerous ancient structures that way predate the flood standing in full or partial that would've been destroyed by such flood pressures that show no flood damage at all.

[Betonov]

I one watched this good documentary how a supposed livestock merchant in Assyria got caught in a flash flood with his raft, fammily and livestock and then drifted on the sea until the currents brought them back to shore.
That is theorised to be one of the basis folklore that deleveloped into the noahs ark myth.
I'll try and find it after work.

[Catfish]

THAT LINK IS NOT AVAIALABLE IN MY COUNTRY :stare:

Hmm does that link work?

http://www.mikrosimage.eu/tag/unicorn/

[Cybermat47]

I'm not religous, but the camel rides and ziplines sound like they could be fun.

[clive bradbury]

It's just down the street from me. I honestly don't understand why people are so big against it. It's built entirely from private funds and is a for profit theme park and petting zoo. It doesn't get any special tax breaks. It complies with all the same laws as other similar businesses. It is meant as a religious based educational park. The purpose is to teach and display the Biblical version of the Noah's Ark story. It also has general nature and conservation teachings also. The ark itself is not an exact replica, nor is it meant to be. It is built to the exact dimensions mentioned in The Bible. The purpose is to show just how enormous the boat was.
https://arkencounter.com/

According to the BBC they do get tax breaks to $18m. And is it law in the US that you can insist that all employees are christians?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36737185

[Aktungbby]

Hmm does that link work?

http://www.mikrosimage.eu/tag/unicorn/ YUP

I'm not religous, but the camel rides and ziplines sound like they could be fun. RGR that!:O:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/bb/4f/56/bb4f5644a9d558e93f5fbedb18f52cd3.jpg

[AVGWarhawk]

According to the BBC they do get tax breaks to $18m. And is it law in the US that you can insist that all employees are christians?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36737185

There was a tax break. However, the Ark will attract a lot of tourist dollars.

[AVGWarhawk]

The real ark is located on Mount Ararat, Turkey. Or is it something else? :hmmm:

[vienna]

There was a tax break. However, the Ark will attract a lot of tourist dollars.

I have long been against tax breaks for religious endeavors other than for the church building itself, the residences of the clergy, school buildings, hospitals, and other social needs property such as shelters. Any other projects or holding that generate income should be taxed just as any other secular business or property...



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[AVGWarhawk]

I have long been against tax breaks for religious endeavors other than for the church building itself, the residences of the clergy, school buildings, hospitals, and other social needs property such as shelters. Any other projects or holding that generate income should be taxed just as any other secular business or property...



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Churches have always been nonprofit. However, what outreaches do these church run? The churches in my neck of the woods help folks in need plenty. Many needs that government aid does not cover or will not cover. This comes out of the church checkbook. So, with that out there what is the Ark in KY going to do with the proceeds? Certainly I would hope a local outreach program for the needy.

[AVGWarhawk]

Looking up the rebates it appears in 2014 they were denied.

http://www.inquisitr.com/1679582/noahs-ark-park-tax-rebates-sink/

Later approved for a reason:

http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/article73971147.html

The tax break initially was approved by the Kentucky Tourism Development Finance Authority in 2014 under Gov. Steve Beshear’s administration, but it was later canceled after tourism officials learned that the theme park would hire only Christians. Bob Stewart, then secretary of the Tourism, Arts and Heritage Cabinet, said the U.S. Constitution prohibited the state from assisting a religious endeavor.

Ark Encounter officials sued the state in federal court, saying the state’s decision to withhold the tax break violated its free speech. In January, U.S. District Judge Greg Van Tatenhove ruled that the theme park was eligible to receive the tax incentive, which has neutral requirements that can be met by religious and secular groups alike. Gov. Matt Bevin said the state would not appeal the decision.

[Buddahaid]

I wonder how a theme park based on worshiping Satan and hiring only devil worshipers would have fared? Or a Nazi theme park hiring only Nazis? My guess would be no tax breaks.

[Betonov]

Churches should be taxed like anyone else and charity would reduce due amount.
Those multimillion dollar mega churches would eith infuse the goverment coffers or infuse the lower class with some spending money which is better.

[mapuc]

If people believe in these things and they want to build a replica of such a thing-then let them, as long they are using their own money or money from things they have sold.

Markus

[Buddahaid]

Just so. Tax breaks are everybody's money and where the problem starts.

[Jimbuna]

Can't be a replica unless you know what it looked like and how it was made in the first place.

My initial thoughts too.

[Catfish]

The real ark is located on Mount Ararat, Turkey. Or is it something else? :hmmm:

There have been found several "arks" on Mount Ararat, but as long as those "arks" are "made" of basalt none of them would have swum. But maybe the water was so heavy or dense at the time that ist swam. What do i know.

Thinking of the US election i think facts do not matter anyway :woot:

[Mittelwaechter]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard_Global_Seed_Vault

[Jeff-Groves]

I know what the Ark looks like.
I saw it on TV!!
Evan All mighty!!
:D

[AVGWarhawk]

Can't be a replica unless you know what it looked like and how it was made in the first place.

The ark was an incredible vessel, 450 feet in length, 75 feet wide, and 45 feet high Genesis(6:15). It would serve to save both man and animals.


III. The Size of the Ark
(When considering its size it obviously was not the backyard effort of a primitive river-dweller!)
A. It is given in cubits as being 300 cubits long by 50 cubits wide and 30 cubits high. A cubit in the OT was generally about 17.5 inches. However, an Egyptian royal cubit measured about 20.5 inches. Since Moses was educated in Egypt we must allow for the possibility that the longer measurement was meant here. The Ark, therefore, could have measured from 437 feet to 512 feet in length! It was not until the late 19th century that a ship anywhere near this size was built.
B. It's Ratio
The Ark had a ratio (length x width x height) of 30 x 5 x 3. According to ship-builders, this ratio represents an advanced knowledge of ship-building since it is the optimum design for stability in rough seas. The Ark, as designed by God, was virtually impossible to capsize! It would have to have been tilted over 90 degrees in order to capsize.
C. Its Volume.
With the shorter cubit the Ark would have an internal volume of 1,518,750 cubic feet, or the equivalent of 569 standard railroad boxcars. If the average sized animal was the size of a sheep it means the Ark could hold over 125,000 sheep. (Assuming the shape of the Ark to be rectangular there would have been over 100,000 sq. ft of floor space!)


http://www.ldolphin.org/cisflood.html

[AVGWarhawk]

There have been found several "arks" on Mount Ararat, but as long as those "arks" are "made" of basalt none of them would have swum. But maybe the water was so heavy or dense at the time that ist swam. What do i know.

Thinking of the US election i think facts do not matter anyway :woot:


V. It's Final Resting Place
The Bible says in Gen. 8:4 that the Ark came to rest on the mountains (plural) of Ararat. At the time Moses wrote Genesis Ararat was a mountainous region located in what is today Eastern Turkey. The Bible only gives a general location for the final resting place of Noah's Ark. Contrary to what many Christians believe, the Bible does not say the Ark landed on the Mt. Ararat of today. There is, however, compelling evidence from ancient history that the Ark landed on a mountain about 200 miles south of Mt. Ararat. Josephus seems to be referring to this mountain, and he claims it still existed in his day. An Arabic historian says the last remains of the Ark were hauled away about 1000 A.D.
http://www.ldolphin.org/cisflood.html

Don't know if it is true but it is fun to speculate. Scholars have studied this for centuries.