Transgender woman arrested in voyeurism incident [Archive]

August

07-13-16, 01:18 PM

That didn't take very long.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/13/transgender-woman-arrested-in-voyeurism-incident-at-idaho-target.html

An Idaho man who told police he identifies as a woman was arrested Tuesday after allegedly taking photos of a woman in a Target fitting room, officials said.
Sean Patrick Smith, 43, was allegedly dressed in women’s clothing when he entered the fitting room in the women’s section of the store in Ammon on Monday, East Idaho News reported. Smith, also known as Shauna Patricia Smith, then began taking pictures of a woman in the changing stall next to him, police said.

Oberon

07-13-16, 01:49 PM

Eh, there was always going to be someone who was going to do that, glad that they got them though.
Doesn't mean that all transgender people are in it for the chance to perve though and there's no point in punishing all transgender people for the actions of a minority.

Betonov

07-13-16, 02:02 PM

Plus, this is a mentally challenged person.
Nobody sane would dress as a woman just to take pictures of women trying underwear when everything is on google

Actually, why do you even need to dress as a woman to get into a store to take pictures of women trying underwear.
I can do it unshaven and in work gear.

Skybird

07-13-16, 02:07 PM

I thought it could not become much more crazy than "gender-ideologic" - until some weeks ago I learned that now there are even transagers.

Transagers are people who refuse to accept a biological age of their body and their cells, but claim they are as old or young only like they feel. Thats why you may meet a 55 year old woman who dresses like and claims to be a 7 year old boy: she, pardon, he, no wait: she is transgender AND transager.

Somebody must have forgotten to lock the door to the mental asylum.

If you log an account in Facebook, I read you now can choose between over 50 sexual "identities". :har:

P.S. There are cases of real transgender, I know for sure. But these are much, much more rare than the multitude of cases now beign talked about and mentioned. Its a bit like "multiple personalities". Everybody knows what the temrmmeans, but the overwhelming majority of psychiatrists never see a single case in their career, and would even claim that such a thing does not even exist. Its more myth than anything else.

And the concept of "genderism" is slighty different than "transgender" anyway, claiming that there are no sexual identies anyway, that biological traits mean nothing, and that every boy can be turned into a girl and vice versa if you educate him (her) accordingly. Your sex is a rersult of your education. Could it become any more insane than this? Man is a tabula rasa for these nutheads, and genetical heritage means nothing and is meaningless, if not even unreal. Yerah, and the world was build in six days, and is just 6000 years old.

Anti-intellectual idiocy this genderism is. But it has gained enormous political influence and power, and that is what makes it so dangerous.

August

07-13-16, 02:14 PM

If you log an account in Facebook, I read you now can choose between over 50 sexual "identities". :har:

Is there one called noneoyabusiness? :)

Betonov

07-13-16, 02:18 PM

If you log an account in Facebook, I read you now can choose between over 50 sexual "identities". :har:

The number is a bit off.
By 48

http://i.imgur.com/P3DBPpU.jpg?1

Skybird

07-13-16, 02:21 PM

56.

http://readwrite.com/2014/02/13/facebook-provides-50-new-gender-identity-options/

Agender
Androgyne
Androgynous
Bigender
Cis
Cis Female
Cis Male
Cis Man
Cis Woman
Cisgender
Cisgender Female
Cisgender Male
Cisgender Man
Cisgender Woman
Female to Male
FTM
Gender Fluid
Gender Nonconforming
Gender Questioning
Gender Variant
Genderqueer
Intersex
Male to Female
MTF
Neither
Neutrois
Non-binary
Other
Pangender
Trans
Trans Female
Trans Male
Trans Man
Trans Person
Trans Woman
Trans*
Trans* Female
Trans* Male
Trans* Man
Trans* Person
Trans* Woman
Transfeminine
Transgender
Transgender Female
Transgender Male
Transgender Man
Transgender Person
Transgender Woman
Transmasculine
Transsexual
Transsexual Female
Transsexual Male
Transsexual Man
Transsexual Person
Transsexual Woman
Two-spirit

Or here:

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/13/tech/social-media/facebook-gender-custom/index.html

Or here (58!)

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/02/heres-a-list-of-58-gender-options-for-facebook-users/

Any many other links possible.

Betonov

07-13-16, 02:26 PM

It only gave me 2 options.
XX or XY chromosome.

My FB is assuming my gender :wah:

What if I want to be a cis-alpine slav... wait :hmmm:

Skybird

07-13-16, 02:29 PM

It only gave me 2 options.

Discrimination!

Betonov

07-13-16, 02:36 PM

Outraged.

Truth be told. Gender should be defined only by either you have XX or XY chromosome and that would apply to every official document or action.
When it comes to free time and online shenanigance, I really can't care less if you identify yourself as a male or a jewish panda-kawai crossbreed with a pokemon ancestry.
My FB name is Garmin multifunctional whore Beton because 1) I can and 2) I want my online life detached from the real one.

Torplexed

07-13-16, 07:55 PM

I'm surprised FB didn't have self-identification categories like Otherkin or Dragonkin or Furry.

As a species, I think we're rapidly approaching Cis tupid myself. :O:

Eichhörnchen

07-13-16, 11:58 PM

http://i.imgur.com/0Vuzo2I.jpg "Do I need to be worried?"

Von Due

07-14-16, 02:59 AM

And what about the tri-sexual?

Im not entirely sure if that FB thing is a commentary on diversity or absurdity.

Oberon

07-14-16, 05:38 AM

Who exactly is being harmed by it though? Is your facebook experience so precious that the mere thought of more gender options than two is enough to explode your mind? :hmmm: :doh:

Jimbuna

07-14-16, 05:44 AM

Who exactly is being harmed by it though? Is your facebook experience so precious that the mere thought of more gender options than two is enough to explode your mind? :hmmm: :doh:

Best I don't check mine :o

Skybird

07-14-16, 06:51 AM

Who exactly is being harmed by it though? Is your facebook experience so precious that the mere thought of more gender options than two is enough to explode your mind? :hmmm: :doh:
Always endlessly relativising, yes? Never knowing no stop nowhwere, yes?

Problem is that this nonsens is embedde din greater context, and that cotnext leads to poublic toilets beign reconstructed, established moral value schemes and role models beign violated, which can represent a form of personal attack, and pupils in some German schools by demand of super-progressive genderist "pedagogues" being taught at the age of ten about anal sex, gang bang, and in school books that these pedagogues want to see spreading in German schools these 10 and 11 year old shall get encouraged to collect homosexual experiences even if they are not homosexual at all, and should have at school things like theatre group projects where they think about and realise brothel scenes that please orientations and practices of every kind. 10 and 11 years old. Public school. Anal sex, dildos and lobbying for trying homosexuality.

Tax money even was wasted to print according school books with this criminal garbage in some states.

I suggest you now relativise even more, by claiming that this and that are isolated incidents that have nothing to do with each other.

Already in the 80s, the Green Party was massively campaigning for the legalization of pedophilia, and had many activists and pedophiles as members. They squirm about that until today.

Total sexual disinhibition, lack of moral/ethical values, brutal selfishness and the total conviction of one's own individual uniqueness and preciousness that gives you claim - thats what it it all is about, and what combines all these "non-related" things.

Or in short: cultural degeneration.

And while we already have men being discriminated in more and more state office jobs, and private busienss as well, due to women quota - doesn't justice and equality demand that the other 50+ gender identities get their own quota priviliges as well...?

Von Due

07-14-16, 07:12 AM

When did we go from transgenders to pedophiles and all things sex acts & toys? Being a transgender says absolutely nothing about that person's sex life. For all we know there could be transgender straight edge people around. Never met any but that doesn't mean there aren't transgenders living in strict celibacy. Just as there could be transgenders who go from one orgy to the next together with your favourite politician, lawyer, judge, if those lawyers and judges aren't like they had in Belgium a few decades back, with a number of them in a busted pedophile ring. Men in suits and ties they were. Those people's moral values? At least they wore a smart suit and tie. Ok, enough of this. A transgender is one who identifies him/herself as of the other gender. That's it. That's all it means.

The OP was about one guy caught who said he was a transgender. Was he? Or did he think that would be a clever alibi? I don't know, that's why I'm asking.

As for that one guy, I wouldn't mind if they locked him up in a mental hospital to have a thorough examination of his mind, and possibly jail time if the guy was nothing but a fake with no barriers against what he did.

Oberon

07-14-16, 07:17 AM

Or in short: cultural degeneration.

According to who?
What right do you or anyone else have to dictate to someone what they can or cannot do so long as it is within the boundary of the laws of the land?
If a man feels that he was born with the wrong gender and wants to be a woman, then what's wrong with that?
I agree that the line should be drawn at pedophilia, no question about that, but otherwise I think that people should have the freedom to live their life however they want to so long as they abide by the law.
If a transgender person wants to perve on someone in a toilet, then they are breaking the law and should be arrested, but this does not mean that every transgender person should be banned from the toilet of their choosing.
Quite frankly, in regards to children, the message to them should be, be whatever you want to be. There's enough bullying in schools because of people being different without trying to reinforce it through doctrine.

Skybird

07-14-16, 07:35 AM

You put claims and en vogue hear-say over evidence.

I put medical evidence over claims.

Damn that science and reason stuff.

Oberon

07-14-16, 08:00 AM

Medical evidence?! Of what, that being transgender makes you an intrinsic threat to society? :hmmm:

Skybird

07-14-16, 08:24 AM

Evidence for your gender.

As I said earlier: the phenomenon is far, far less often for real than there are claims, and that so many people run around in the belief they could artificially decide on what they want to be, is hilarious.

And that is the link between transgender activism, radical feminism, and pedophile pedagogues wanting to teach 11 year old in public schools that they can chose their gender at will, and that it only is a result of cultural context and education. All this, plus homo-marriages, aim at declaring all gender role models and all social institutions basing on them, nill and void, as if nature does not know biological sexes and according supportive cognitive and emotional psychological structures were just imaginations.

Its bull. Take 99% of that genderism bull and shove it.

And I do not even mention the methodology of gender "research", the laughter I would burst into maybe would end up lethal for me. You know, I have stuck my nose into these things since several years now, not all the time, but time and again. I got myself a solid overview over the matter. And the matter is what astrology is compared to physics and astronomy: bull.

Oberon

07-14-16, 08:36 AM

Evidence for your gender.

As I said earlier: the phenomenon is far, far less often for real than there are claims, and that many people run around in the belief they could artificially deicde on what they want to be, is hilarious.

And that is the link between transgender activism, radical feminism, and pedophile pedagogues wanting to teach 11 year old in public school that they can chose their gender at will, and that it only is a result of cultural context and education. All this, plus homo-marriages, aim at declaring all gender role models and all social institutions basing on them, nill and void, as if nature does not know biological sexes and according supportive cognitive and emotional psychological structures were just imaginations.

Its bull. Take 99% of that genderism bull and shove it.

So everyone who is transgender is mentally unstable and a threat to children and society?

http://cdn0.whiskeyriff.com/wp-content/uploads/screw-this-1.jpg

MaDef

07-14-16, 08:38 AM

According to who?
What right do you or anyone else have to dictate to someone what they can or cannot do so long as it is within the boundary of the laws of the land?
If a man feels that he was born with the wrong gender and wants to be a woman, then what's wrong with that?
I agree that the line should be drawn at pedophilia, no question about that, but otherwise I think that people should have the freedom to live their life however they want to so long as they abide by the law.
If a transgender person wants to perve on someone in a toilet, then they are breaking the law and should be arrested, but this does not mean that every transgender person should be banned from the toilet of their choosing.
Quite frankly, in regards to children, the message to them should be, be whatever you want to be. There's enough bullying in schools because of people being different without trying to reinforce it through doctrine.Easy way to fix this kind of BS, people should use the appropriate facilities (bathroom, dressing rm, etc) based on their actual plumbing not on what gender they self identify as.

Oberon

07-14-16, 08:40 AM

Easy way to fix this kind of BS, people should use the appropriate facilities (bathroom, dressing rm, etc) based on their actual plumbing not on what gender they self identify as.

And if they've had their plumbing surgically altered to comply to the gender they identify as?

Skybird

07-14-16, 09:07 AM

So everyone who is transgender is mentally unstable and a threat to children and society?

No, but not everyone who claims to be transthis or transthat, actually is that, but most of these have just some lose screws that need to be tightened. Like I am not a five-legged blue-skinned Martian just becasue I claim it, and like a 52 year old father is not a 6 year old girl just because he claims that.

http://www.mrctv.org/blog/52-year-old-father-lives-6-year-old-girl

As a former psychologist, I can think of several possible diagnosis here. "Trans-something" is not one amongst them. Pathological regression is more on my mind.

I say again: transgender phenomenons exist for real, I know that for a certainty - but it is like with "multiple personalities in one body": a lot of rumours and ideas about it, but most cases claimed are simply fake, are wrong, and most psychiatrists will never meet a single case of multiple personalities in one body in all their career, it is even disputed that this "phenomenon" even exists for real. But you can make wonderful crime movies using this concept. Anyone remembering the young Sharon Stone in this double feature in the series Magnum, episode title was I think The Dark Mirror?

But hey, there are people who claim that they remember their earlier incarnation and life and that they were Nero, Napoleon or Nofretete, so what...

Skybird

07-14-16, 09:16 AM

Easy way to fix this kind of BS, people should use the appropriate facilities (bathroom, dressing rm, etc) based on their actual plumbing not on what gender they self identify as.
This. Reason and pragmatism in action.

But in more and more cities they now build one-size-fits-all toilets. In Germany the gender-lobby campaigns for this becoming nation-wide mandadory law, in some cities it already is - the vast majority has to obey the small minority. That the feeling of shame of normal ordinary heterosexual people might get violated by this, has not been considered.
Violation of the culturally established standards for "shame", all too easily can represent an aggression that I rate as a personal attack. And I tend to react accordingly.

Wolferz

07-14-16, 04:51 PM

Butt punking monkey frogs!!!!

Transgender is not an excuse for invading the privacy of others.

Someone mentioned ladies trying on undergarments in a store???!!!

It's not a thing we men do. EVER!!!

Whoever this perv is, he's kind of stupid. If you want pictures of females in their bloomers, all you have to do is visit Victoria's Secret and pick up a catalogue. Along with the foundations of his choice.

:doh:

Nippelspanner

07-14-16, 09:02 PM

Discrimination!
OMG I am SO triggered by this! :timeout:

JU_88

07-15-16, 03:43 AM

So everyone who is transgender is mentally unstable and a threat to children and society?

http://cdn0.whiskeyriff.com/wp-content/uploads/screw-this-1.jpg

I dont think that's what he said at all.
Social justice has gotten out of hand, Preaching a degree of tolerance and acceptance the liberal way was just fine, but no - for some thats just not good enough, and they demand that everyone embrace their delusion to validate their personal feelings.
I despise Social Justice because it has abandoned the principles that a person should be judged by the content of their character, Instead its advocates treating people a certain way based on their identified group and if a particular group is viewed as 'oppressed' they should be entitled to special treatment and privileges to lift them out of 'oppression'. The fact we already have equal individual rights and opportunity is not good enough for some. Welcome to the age of entitlement. This is what people look like when driven by self pity and have been encouraged to embrace victim hood.

Remember when woman were not allowed vote, Homosexuals were imprisoned and Black people were forced to sit at the back of the bus? That was also the result of having different rules for different groups. Social Justice has basically just reverse engineered the SAME principles as those from the 1950s. (pro Group rights)
They think they can create an equal society by using the forces of evil for good. Well guess what, it doesn't work.

This just about sums it up/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmeSGwVBoao

MaDef

07-15-16, 09:00 AM

And if they've had their plumbing surgically altered to comply to the gender they identify as?Really? thats a pretty weak challenge to my argument. But ok, I'll bite.

Add a third facility (bathroom, Dressing rm, etc.) marked "other". You've now accommodated everyone including One eyed one horned flying purple people eaters. The only ones who will be unhappy with this solution are the Drama Queens (pun intended), who are never happy unless they're bitching about something.

Betonov

07-15-16, 09:05 AM

What about we have just one toillet for anyone with a warning sign ''troublemakers will be met with pepper spray in face''

August

07-15-16, 09:47 AM

And if they've had their plumbing surgically altered to comply to the gender they identify as?

To me that'd be enough.

Wolferz

07-15-16, 03:14 PM

Labeled...
PISSING AND MOANING
:haha:

Platapus

07-15-16, 07:43 PM

Remove urinals from Men's room. They have evolved past their original advantage.

Install equal number of stalls so that everyone has the privacy of a stall with a locking door. Problem solved.

Forget about who is in which stall since the door will be closed. Wide stance Senators can continue as they were.

I don't know about women's rooms, but in Men's rooms the worst you will see outside of a stall/urinal is a guy tucking in his shirt. Not exactly world shattering.

Perhaps in the woman's room there are naked pillow fights in front of the sink? Probably not. The Frau tells me that pretty much everything is done in the closed stalls.

Probably everyone does their private stuff in a stall and use the sink to wash their hands. I don't think we need to protect the younglings from seeing members of the opposite/multiple genders wash their hands.

Oberon

07-15-16, 07:46 PM

August

07-15-16, 07:54 PM

Remove urinals from Men's room. They have evolved past their original advantage.

How so? Peeing standing up is still better than having to squat.

Oberon

07-15-16, 07:59 PM

How so? Peeing standing up is still better than having to squat.

And you can't pee standing up into a standard toilet? :doh:

August

07-15-16, 08:40 PM

And you can't pee standing up into a standard toilet? :doh:

Well sure I can but then I get complaints of splash back. Urinals are designed to minimize that kind of thing.

Platapus

07-16-16, 06:37 AM

Urinals used to be a single long trough. One, Two or several more men could use it as once. That design served well to keep costs down and there was always room for one more guy. :)

Now urinals are separate fixtures each within a separate two walled almost-a-stall. While each urinal may cost less than a toilet, I doubt they cost significantly less than a toilet. We have also lost the "always room for one more" capability. Three urinals = only three "customers" :D

There would be an extra cost exchanging urinals with commodes and the added cost of completing the stall, but I don't think that would be a significant cost.

Clearly this would be better in new construction. All rest rooms would have the same layout, same fixture, same plumbing That should help reduce any cost differences.

Post construction restrooms can be re-designated on a temporary basis if needed. Or ultimately we can get away with separate restrooms entirely and just have restrooms. Pick a stall.. any stall and take care of business in privacy.

I think by now we are all able to accept that all genders have noisy and stinky poops at times. . No need to protect the public.