Rio police tell tourists they won't be able to protect them

[Onkel Neal]

Rio police tell tourists they won't be able to protect them
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/05/sport/rio-olympics-2016-security/index.html

Rio de Janeiro (CNN)The Olympic Games are 31 days away -- and Rio de Janeiro is in crisis.

Violence is on the rise, and police officers are at loggerheads with the Rio state government after claiming they've not been paid for months.

The message from police to tourists is clear: We won't be able to protect you.
The state's police officers vented their anger Monday with a sign saying, "Welcome to Hell," outside Rio's main airport. "Police and firefighters don't get paid, whoever comes to Rio de Janeiro will not be safe," the sign said.

Wow, add in the likelihood that ISIS will target this event and this could be a disaster.

[Oberon]

It's certainly putting out a lot of bad signals before the Olympics.
I do wonder if Daesh will make an effort to attack it though, I don't think they have much in the way of structure in South America, but it's still possible that it could be done, although they'd have to be careful how they organise it to avoid increasing the chatter level too much. :hmmm:
Either which way, it's ominous...I mean, most of us in the UK had pretty low expectations of the 2012 Olympics and we expected an attack then, but despite the G4S screw-ups we had nowhere near as much trouble as Brazil is going through.
Not good.

[Betonov]

Ruined historical sites and plundered museums ---> gold ---> melted down into makeshift untrecable ingots ---> find a crime lord (Brazil has enough for export) ---> get terror infrastructure for gold ---> attack

Crime lords have an underground infrastructure decades above what daesh would need. Crime needs an exit strategy, terror doesn't.

If I can think of it and I'm a pacifist :dead:

[Jimbuna]

Not looking good for such an auspicious occasion.

[Skybird]

The UEFA Cup still running, French police have spoiled several terror attacks, there also were raids taking out terror cells in Belgium and Germany, related to the French event. Imagine these attacks to have targetted in Brazil.

But then, why even having the Olympics at Brazil, a place in utmost financial troubles? Those living at the lower end of the social ladder, once again got kicked and gotten rid of like garbage.

Then, the Olympic committee and FIFA are criminal organisation and gangster cartels in themselves. Why these monumental amounts of tax money get wasted on these big events, is beyond me.

If you think about it, even Western countries cannot afford these events. The promises regarding investments into infrastructure, before the event always reach into the heavens, but we know by now that the economic and financial bill in the end and years later, ALWAYS is negative. These events are always, always deficitary for the hosting country.

[Mr Quatro]

plus the Zika virus, plus bad water, plus body parts found washed up on the beach last week, plus the super bug of bacteria has just been found in the area too ...

spells stay home :yep:

Rio Olympic Games 2016 begins on
Friday, August 5
and ends on
Sunday, August 21

[Platapus]

I wonder if this will affect viewership?

Probably not

[Jimbuna]

I wonder if this will affect viewership?

Probably not

I should imagine it will only add to the number of viewers.

[Skybird]

plus the Zika virus, plus bad water, plus body parts found washed up on the beach last week, plus the super bug of bacteria has just been found in the area too ...

spells stay home :yep:

Rio Olympic Games 2016 begins on
Friday, August 5
and ends on
Sunday, August 21


End of world somewhere in between, I assume...? :D

The Olympics I followed and watched most intensely, ever, was Los Angeles 1984. Every day and night, as much as I could - and I could a lot: I was mostly alone, and it were holidays... The only time I ever followed, lived and breathed such an event on TV like a junky, and followed the statistics on medals and tables as if my life depended on it. It was a good time, and those years it were different times somehow anyway. When I think about a positive Olympics, I immediately think L.A. '84. And no other.

Heck, even that damn soundtrack "Reach Out" still echoes in my ears... :D

Today, it all has over-lived itself for me. Zero interest now: none, rien, nada, nix. Plus the corruption, if not to say: organised crime, in IOC (and FIFA)... And the big business show just kills it even more for me.

[Moonlight]

I watch the athletics these days to see who is probably taking drugs, errr, I meant to say supplements. :yep:

I can't find a strikethrough text thingamajig, do we have one :hmph:

[Dowly]

I can't find a strikethrough text thingamajig, do we have one :hmph:
No. :cry:

[AVGWarhawk]

Prime for the picking concerning ISIS. :down:

[Oberon]

Ruined historical sites and plundered museums ---> gold ---> melted down into makeshift untrecable ingots ---> find a crime lord (Brazil has enough for export) ---> get terror infrastructure for gold ---> attack

Crime lords have an underground infrastructure decades above what daesh would need. Crime needs an exit strategy, terror doesn't.

If I can think of it and I'm a pacifist :dead:

Valid point, but have Daesh got a history of working with local non-Islamic sources? In Europe at least, from what I can tell, most of their organisation is based around mosques and communities, although I guess they must get their weaponry through the black market. :hmmm:

[Betonov]

Valid point, but have Daesh got a history of working with local non-Islamic sources? In Europe at least, from what I can tell, most of their organisation is based around mosques and communities, although I guess they must get their weaponry through the black market. :hmmm:

Europes underground is either mafia (and russians and italians will rather skin the terrorists rather work with them) or small scale operations partially linked by a smugling ring.
S. America has barons and they're called that because they own estate and fiefs and I doubt they'll shy away from some free gold just to hide a few nutjobs from the already bought police.
Not to mention the police. I wonder which already bought cop won't mind some money just to let a few spoiled western tourists die.

[Oberon]

Europes underground is either mafia (and russians and italians will rather skin the terrorists rather work with them) or small scale operations partially linked by a smugling ring.
S. America has barons and they're called that because they own estate and fiefs and I doubt they'll shy away from some free gold just to hide a few nutjobs from the already bought police.
Not to mention the police. I wonder which already bought cop won't mind some money just to let a few spoiled western tourists die.

True, but I was thinking more from the other end, would Daesh 'stoop' to working with major non-Islamic criminal enterprises in order to further their goals, I mean these guys are not the sharpest knives in the drawer, because if they were then we'd have had more terror attacks in Europe by now. :hmmm:

[Betonov]

True, but I was thinking more from the other end, would Daesh 'stoop' to working with major non-Islamic criminal enterprises in order to further their goals, I mean these guys are not the sharpest knives in the drawer, because if they were then we'd have had more terror attacks in Europe by now. :hmmm:

I want to dissagre since I'm thinking as a pragmatist, the end justifies the means but....

They are crackpots

[Oberon]

I want to dissagre since I'm thinking as a pragmatist, the end justifies the means but....

They are crackpots

Well, same, and I'm sure that there are some pragmatists in Daesh, but yeah, there's that big crackpot element which you have to factor in.
Now Al'Qaeda strike me as a more pragmatic organisation and I would expect them to have links to non-Islamic criminal organisations, because they have a wider international support base, but they are more concerned on reasserting their power in Middle Eastern affairs than striking at the west at the moment.
Still, it's possible, I can't rule it out that Daesh or Al'Qaeda would strike at the Olympics, it's certainly a prime target for it, but equally I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't and decided to let all the other myriad problems in Brazil do the dirty work for them ("Hajim, there's no point in destroying the Olympic stadium, it already falls down by itself! We are just doing the infidels work for them."). Now the 2022 World Cup on the other hand....