Watch out Neal, first Brexit now Texit!?!

[eddie]

Support seems to be growing in Texas, to leave the union again! Where does this lead to,lol

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/24/after-brexit-support-soars-texas-secession-push/

[em2nought]

To pay for Texit, all they have to do is sell Texas citizenship to those of us stuck in going down the toilet states. :salute:

[Buddahaid]

You couldn't pay me to live there. Go ahead and leave. :O:

[Betonov]

Europe has an oil rich country that never entered the union and is prospering.
Texas has the same idea

[Onkel Neal]

The plan was to get Gov Perry elected President and make the rest of the US so mad they would kick us out. Thanks, Trump. Lol

[HunterICX]

In case of a Texit, Neal.

interested in joining the EU?
we just got an opening you see :D

[STEED]

The South shall rise again. :D

[Platapus]

Texas vs White (1869)

Unfortunately, we are stuck with Texas being a state. :D

[Onkel Neal]

Texas vs White (1869)

Unfortunately, we are stuck with Texas being a state. :D
Let's work together to get us out :)

[Penguin]

Wanna join a confederation with an independent Rhineland when we do our Rhinexit and split from those nasty Westphalians? :arrgh!:
We have experience, our last independence isn't as long ago as Texas'. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhenish_Republic)

[Onkel Neal]

Wanna join a confederation with an independent Rhineland when we do our Rhinexit and split from those nasty Westphalians? :arrgh!:
We have experience, our last independence isn't as long ago as Texas'. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhenish_Republic)
Count me in!

[Penguin]

Great! With Rheinmetall located here, we could also...support Texas' defensive needs, in case those pesky Okies bother you. May I interest you in some nice Leopard 2s in exchange for some cases of Dublin Dr. Pepper?

[Platapus]

I think a lot of people are in favour of a wall on the border.

Whether that wall should be built on the Southern border of Texas or the Northern border of Texas is still undecided. :D:D

[Onkel Neal]

Great! With Rheinmetall located here, we could also...support Texas' defensive needs, in case those pesky Okies bother you. May I interest you in some nice Leopard 2s in exchange for some cases of Dublin Dr. Pepper?

That's gonna take a lot of Dr Pepper!

Actually, all we need to keep out the Americans is cannon loaded with job applications.:arrgh!:

I think a lot of people are in favour of a wall on the border.

Whether that wall should be built on the Southern border of Texas or the Northern border of Texas is still undecided. :D:D

God, build both. You are aware that a lot more people want in Texas than want to leave, I guess not :haha:
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Gallup-Map.png

[Jimbuna]

I think a lot of people are in favour of a wall on the border.

Whether that wall should be built on the Southern border of Texas or the Northern border of Texas is still undecided. :D:D

LOL :)

[em2nought]

Actually, all we need to keep out the Americans is cannon loaded with job applications.

They'll take a job, just don't expect them to work. :03:

[Onkel Neal]

I thought it would scare 'em away, let me rethink this....:D

[Aktungbby]

I think a lot of people are in favour of a wall on the border.

Whether that wall should be built on the Southern border of Texas or the Northern border of Texas is still undecided. :D:D

JEEZE! if the northern boarder: there'd be a lot of (OK) 'panhandlers' just like Tijuana ...using babies as props.:O:http://gothamist.com/attachments/byakas/111514homeless.jpg

[Takeda Shingen]

Leaving? Thought you guys left back in 2012 after the scary black man was reelected. Well, see you guys around. We'll make sure to tie off the water and utilities. Don't want things getting banged up when Mexico comes back for what's theirs. Have fun!

[Oberon]

One of these days Texas will leave and no-one will believe it. :haha:

[vienna]

...or, perhaps, even care... :D



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[Onkel Neal]

Oh, words hurt! :up:

[Bubblehead1980]

The idea of the United States splitting up is a great one and part of me hopes things get terrible enough sometime in the future it could happen.I would love to see Texas once again be it's own nation.Perhaps the southern states form it's own country, the NE it's own etc.Can maintain relations, trade, mutual protection agreements etc but remove DC from the equation.Of course if have another tyrant along the lines of Lincoln it would start another war, but it would be for the best if America divorced at this point. This would be most fair and logical thing to solve the problems facing our people.

[em2nought]

One of these days Texas will leave and no-one will believe it. :haha:

I'm telling you they should start selling citizenships. :woot:

[Onkel Neal]

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[Oberon]

The idea of the United States splitting up is a great one

Because it would end so well. :yep:

http://cowgernation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/A-New-York-Destroyed-.jpg

You guys managed to kill nearly a million Americans last time, think you can go better this time? :hmmm:

[Catfish]

^ why don't you stop them negative waves :haha:

[August]

The idea of the United States splitting up is a great one and part of me hopes things get terrible enough sometime in the future it could happen.I would love to see Texas once again be it's own nation.Perhaps the southern states form it's own country, the NE it's own etc.Can maintain relations, trade, mutual protection agreements etc but remove DC from the equation.Of course if have another tyrant along the lines of Lincoln it would start another war, but it would be for the best if America divorced at this point. This would be most fair and logical thing to solve the problems facing our people.


Just curious, exactly what problems do you think would be solved by splitting up?

[Jimbuna]

^Try Russia or China (It is certainly one or the other).

[Betonov]

Absolutely.
British cops always wear reflective jackets.

[Aktungbby]

Minneapolis; look at all those hockey shin-guards!

[Betonov]

The color scheme is eastern european.
But not Russian, I'm guessing Macedonian or Serb

[em2nought]

Just curious, exactly what problems do you think would be solved by splitting up?

Well, we'd know for sure which bathroom to use. Very important in an emergency. I'm pretty sure one of the split off places wouldn't limit free speech to only the supposedly oppressed either. In military boots the choice wouldn't be between flats or pumps in one of those places. Plus if Texas secedes I could live right beside the new gold depository so I can visit mine. :D Oh, and most importantly in one of the split off places it wouldn't be a daily battle to keep your 2nd amendment rights. If the IRS has a stockpile of weapons, why shouldn't I? LMAO

[Sailor Steve]

Well, we'd know for sure which bathroom to use. Very important in an Oh, and most importantly in one of the split off places it wouldn't be a daily battle to keep your 2nd amendment rights. If the IRS has a stockpile of weapons, why shouldn't I? LMAO
Come to Utah then. We kept ours even during the period when Texas outlawed handgun. :O:

[Oberon]

^Try Russia or China (It is certainly one or the other).

Quite...now, this is UK police:

http://i.imgur.com/XLMmN8O.jpg

[Sailor Steve]

Quite...now, this is UK police:
Why am I expecting them to suddenly break into a song-and-dance routine?

[Jimbuna]

^Try Russia or China (It is certainly one or the other).

The color scheme is eastern european.
But not Russian, I'm guessing Macedonian or Serb

Kiev, Russia: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=30862.80

China: http://backthen-magna.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/yange-youde.html

[Betonov]

Kiev is in Ukraine :O:

[Oberon]

Kiev is in Ukraine :O:

http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/secondary/Putin-358895.jpg

[Betonov]

Jezus, take a look at Peru cops :o

http://www.tierraunica.com/.a/6a00e551962103883300e553e9177e8834-800wi

God help them if there's another faschist coup

[Jimbuna]

Kiev is in Ukraine :O:

http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/secondary/Putin-358895.jpg

LOL :)

[Oberon]

Jezus, take a look at Peru cops :o



God help them if there's another faschist coup

South America

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/68/68948b86a631398251f58e9cdbc3c3a2d9cf6550321f5ae93c dd4a12a266cff4.jpg

[Onkel Neal]

Texas Secession 'Closer' Than Anyone Thinks
https://www.newsweek.com/texas-secession-closer-anyone-thinks-1884088

Speaking on his podcast Miller said that Texan independence, dubbed TEXIT by some supporters, is "closer than pretty much anyone else thinks" and argued a single external or internal shock could push this over "the finish line."

Miller suggested the reelection of Biden, concerns about the validity of the 2024 election result, immigration issues, or a financial crisis could also trigger a Texas independence movement.

He said: "If you were to see major anomalies in the 2024 election again accelerator down to the floor. The fact of the matter is legitimate concerns about the integrity of our electoral system have gone unanswered ... . If you see major anomalies in the 2024 election the calls for TEXIT will become overwhelming and I believe the same thing happens if Joe Biden gets reelected as president of the United States."

Let my people go-go! :Kaleun_Wink:

[Aktungbby]

Nominated: Necro post of the year!:O::haha: Buddahaid and I would have to manage :subsim: from California!:o We simply couldn't abide an 'out-of-country headquartered forum!:timeout: Then again, Texas, having seceeded from Mexico in 1836, and the Union in 1861...:hmmm: perhaps "the third time could actually be the charm"!:arrgh!:

[Gerald]

What happened before this Texas exit post since it take 8 year's to progress an update, just curious 🧐..

[em2nought]

I need to get myself to Texas before it's too late. :D

I imagine I'll lose my social security, but the way we're going I'm not sure I would ever get that anyway. I doubt they'll have dual citizenships. LOL

[Jimbuna]

I'm reliably informed by a Texan friend of mind that the state has been in a right state since I visited in the year dot :shucks:

[August]

Hmmm, well I think if the Feds actually were to let Texas go they'd first remove all their military personnel and hardware from the state, leaving it vulnerable to attack. With a 1200 mile border with Mexico and an even longer one with the United States i'd guess that half the population will be permanently engaged in defending them.

If the Feds don't want to let Texas go (the more likely scenario), then between the Armored division stationed at Ft Bliss, the Armored Corps stationed Fort Hood and the many other federal military bases that are located in the state you basically have a modern Shermans Army already in position to begin a new March to the Sea. :)

[mapuc]

Been re-reading it and Platapus have said it can't be done(on page 1)

Now if Texas decide through some referendum to leave USA-What will happen politically and in societies in Texas and it neighbour states ?

Markus

[August]

Been re-reading it and Platapus have said it can't be done(on page 1)

Now if Texas decide through some referendum to leave USA-What will happen politically and in societies in Texas and it neighbour states ?

Markus


The last time it was tried back in the 1860's the rouge states involved were brought back under federal control by force, hence my reference to General Shermans March to the Sea.

[mapuc]

The last time it was tried back in the 1860's the rouge states involved were brought back under federal control by force, hence my reference to General Shermans March to the Sea.

Hmm did Texas joined the southern part of the civil war in an effort to gain independent from America ?

Markus

[August]

Hmm did Texas joined the southern part of the civil war in an effort to gain independent from America ?

Markus


It did. Texas had only been a part of the US for 16 years before it seceded along with the other twelve Confederate states.

[Jeff-Groves]

if the Feds actually were to let Texas go they'd first remove all their military personnel and hardware

:hmmm:
Think they would follow the "Get the Hell outta Afganistan" model?

[Rockstar]

Joining the Union is like getting a room at the Hotel California.

“We are programmed to receive
You can check out any time you like
But you can never leave!" :D


https://youtu.be/09839DpTctU?feature=shared

[Buddahaid]

Hmmm, well I think if the Feds actually were to let Texas go they'd first remove all their military personnel and hardware from the state, leaving it vulnerable to attack. With a 1200 mile border with Mexico and an even longer one with the United States i'd guess that half the population will be permanently engaged in defending them.

...

I might get behind building a wall then....:shucks:

[August]

:hmmm:
Think they would follow the "Get the Hell outta Afganistan" model?


I could see a scenario like that happening if those Federal forces I mentioned above weren't enough to crush the rebellion. Texas has a pretty strong national guard contingent that one could expect to side with the secessionists.

[Jeff-Groves]

IF it happened. Think of how many Forces would be coming in BEHIND the Feds!
All coming from other states. No way I can see that not happening.
And forces working to stop Federales heading to Texas. Blowing up railways, bridges, and anything else to hinder said forces.
If anyone thinks the IED's in Afganistan were wicked? Imagine them here in the States! Not to mention the trained War Fighters still living here that have a thing against the Military. Yeah. Joe could be the "Lincoln" of our age.

[August]

IF it happened. Think of how many Forces would be coming in BEHIND the Feds!
All coming from other states. No way I can see that not happening.
And forces working to stop Federales heading to Texas. Blowing up railways, bridges, and anything else to hinder said forces.

Just remember that the "Federales" have a lot more military assets too. What's in Texas right now, while considerable, represents only a fraction of the military might they can bring to bear.

Worst case scenario for them is not a "Get the hell out of Afghanistan" scenario. I would expect to to be more like Xenophon's March of the Ten Thousand, if the ancient Greeks had complete Air Supremacy over the route.

[Jeff-Groves]

Air Supremacy didn't help much in Vietnam. Didn't win Afganistan either.
And a Government move of force on Texas is gonna make 47 other States sit up and notice.
If they do that toTexas? We may be next. Not to mention not ALL in the Military are gonna just comply.

[mapuc]

If and when Texas and it's habitants decide to leave USA I'm convinced it will be a peaceful divorce

Can Texas survive on its own ?

Markus

[Sean C]

I hate moving. I mean, I really hate it. And I like Virginia ... and the United States. But ...


If Texas seceded, I'd seriously consider moving there.

[Buddahaid]

If and when Texas and it's habitants decide to leave USA I'm convinced it will be a peaceful divorce

Can Texas survive on its own ?

Markus

Doesn't seem like it can right now even with Federal help....:Kaleun_Wink:

[August]

Air Supremacy didn't help much in Vietnam. Didn't win Afganistan either.
And a Government move of force on Texas is gonna make 47 other States sit up and notice.
If they do that to Texas? We may be next. Not to mention not ALL in the Military are gonna just comply.

Was not the scenario here that Texas had seceded from the US? The Federal government is not moving force at random here. It has an entire Army Corps and who knows how many Naval and Air Force assets stuck 100's of miles inside of now enemy territory, but not tens of thousands away in the case of Vietnam and Afghanistan. The Feds certainly have the power to defeat anything the Texans could throw at them. Would there be an insurgency? Of course but flat and open Texas will be the toughest kind of ground to fight one in if the Feds can see every move.

And i'm curious, what about the other two states you didn't mention? Why wouldn't they follow the other 47s lead? I'd think by that point concern would be unanimous!

[Onkel Neal]

No insurgency needed, we just need to push politically, constantly, employ MLK and Gandhi's victim-whining tactics, have referendums and protests, make life hell for immigrants and visitors until the liberal elite in Washington/California/NY give up and say "to hell with you, Texas". We can sort out the federal properties and cut ties with the US.

The United States of America is a dying dynasty. If Texas can break free and return to its conservative, no-nonsense roots, I'm all in.

If and when Texas and it's habitants decide to leave USA I'm convinced it will be a peaceful divorce

Can Texas survive on its own ?

Markus

Sure it could, why not? We could trade with the US and Mexico in areas where mutual interests exist.

Yes, it would have to be a peaceful divorce, for sure.

After the split, the US would take a few million liberal refugees, all the illegal aliens, the homeless and drug addled, then Texas would be set. Low crime, no nonsense, a place where decent, level-headed people would work diligently for a good life.

[Skybird]

They wont let you go peacefully, they expect you to do "your part" for "investing" into the growing state budget. Maybe you can secede by force - but you will have to fight and suffer for it.



There are a very few historians who argue that this was the real reason for the civil war. The North had pushed industrialization at the cost of letting its debts explode, now wanted the South to pay "its fair share" for it. They could not command this to independent states, so concluded they needed to enforce a one-state nation with a centralised government, and so the ball got rolling, rallying people for this cause by hiding it and instead pretending that one was about freeing the slaves.



A believable scenario in my eyes. Its always about the money.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Let's work together to get us out :)

Putin, et al., would love to see the U.S. Balkanized.

[August]

No insurgency needed, we just need to push politically, constantly, employ MLK and Gandhi's victim-whining tactics, have referendums and protests, make life hell for immigrants and visitors until the liberal elite in Washington/California/NY give up and say "to hell with you, Texas". We can sort out the federal properties and cut ties with the US.

The United States of America is a dying dynasty. If Texas can break free and return to its conservative, no-nonsense roots, I'm all in.

Sure it could, why not? We could trade with the US and Mexico in areas where mutual interests exist.

Yes, it would have to be a peaceful divorce, for sure.

After the split, the US would take a few million liberal refugees, all the illegal aliens, the homeless and drug addled, then Texas would be set. Low crime, no nonsense, a place where decent, level-headed people would work diligently for a good life.

So you guys are not only going to leave but you are going to do some ethnic cleansing when you do. I wonder though, how are you going to determine who is a liberal or not? Will there be some sort of Mischling test to prove suitability? Those subhumans are quite sneaky you know.

Then there is all those Mexicans and their descendants. What will you Pure Texans do with them?

[em2nought]

I wonder though, how are you going to determine who is a liberal or not?

Just round up anybody who walks into a Starbucks or Panera. Follow all the Grab drivers to wherever their orders were placed from. Setup a camera in the vegan isle at the grocery store. :har:

[Moonlight]

The Texas politicians are just pissing in the wind and getting wet as usual, that should show the populace they haven't got the brains to do the job.