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I assume you all know the UEFA Euro 2016 start on Friday 10th of June i France
Let it be a sports event which will be remembered for the great achievements on the field and not what everyone goes around and fear will happen.
So let the party begin
I hope Germany will go all the way
Markus
zulu354
06-08-16, 04:19 PM
Hoping too for Germany. But I am afraid, it is just not enought what the team has...it seems as it is leaking something...
The odds I fear are good for Spain (again) as well as for France. France at least always claimed the title when a tournement was at their place. However, may even Belgium as a secret favourite I would bet. Iceland would be cool, if they rock the championship after their really nice qualification.:D
Eichhörnchen
06-08-16, 11:45 PM
After Eurovision, do you think we'll see Australia too?
Jimbuna
06-09-16, 05:40 AM
Ever the optimist I'll stick with my Country England and as already alluded to, hope the tournament is remembered for what happens on the pitch and not off it.
Skybird
06-09-16, 04:25 PM
Spanish clubs dominated the champions league, and I imagine the Spanish team will do the same in this tournament.
The Germans, just my feeling, are not as strong anymore as they were when the humiliated Brazil two years ago. As usual they will get far. But that they claim the championship in the end is anything but certain. Maybe yes, maybe not.
Somehow I feel not that much interested anymore this time. I felt stronger for German teams there were in the past.
I see the English fans have wasted no time getting down to business (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/french-police-use-tear-gas-8153963). :yep:
HunterICX
06-10-16, 11:38 AM
I see the English fans have wasted no time getting down to business (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/french-police-use-tear-gas-8153963). :yep:
So...the movie Eurotrip does have a 100% accurate portrayal of British Football fans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyFwViOiAqY
:haha:
So...the movie Eurotrip does have a 100% accurate portrayal of British Football fans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyFwViOiAqY
:haha:
:har:
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty much spot on. :yep:
Skybird
06-11-16, 05:07 AM
Alienating result yesterday, France-Romania, because the 1:0 was after the French attacker fouled the Romanian keeper (very hard to see, but decisive action), and the penalty was unjustified: the Romanian attacker before again had committed a foul the ref did not see.
The match was so-la-la, a draw would have been fairer, me thinks.
Video evidence form next tournament on. Many many years too late. It works in American sport leagues so well, is a sign for fairness and professionalism. The opening match of a tournament: and two of three scored goals were due to misjudgements by the referee: how could traditionalists defend that with "sportsmanship" and "spirit of the game"? At least the two mistakes neutralised each other, without these goals, the win still would have been France.
HunterICX
06-11-16, 05:40 AM
Video evidence form next tournament on. Many many years too late. It works in American sport leagues so well, is a sign for fairness and professionalism. The opening match of a tournament: and two of three scored goals were due to misjudgements by the referee: how could traditionalists defend that with "sportsmanship" and "spirit of the game"? At least the two mistakes neutralised each other, without these goals, the win still would have been France.
One has just to look at the ones that organizes these Cups and I've already said enough me thinks.
Anyway apart from the fact that Netherlands didn't qualify which could've given me the minimal of reasons to watch any of it, after having watched the Rugby World Cup last year I find myself in a position I can't stand to watch this pansyball anymore where you have a bunch of overpaid clowns that are too busy with their hair, complaining at the referee and crying on the ground.
Skybird
06-11-16, 05:48 AM
You... got some points there... :yep:
Feuer Frei!
06-11-16, 07:23 AM
Gomez as lone striker, along with Goetze. Gomez a god send for Die Mannschaft after having a blinder in.......wait for it.....the Turkish League :haha:
Once again the defense looks suspect.
But then that's what they said 2 years ago.
Skybird
06-11-16, 07:37 AM
Fitness looks suspicious with many of the established names. Even Teamgeist and fighting spirit can get exhausted, physically.
Jimbuna
06-11-16, 08:10 AM
I see the English fans have wasted no time getting down to business (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/french-police-use-tear-gas-8153963). :yep:
As if the French security services haven't already got enough to contend with :nope:
Mind you, in all fairness, I've read reports stating the Russian fans and some locals started it.
I don't think England footie fans really have to do anything, TBH. Even if they don't look for one, a fight normally finds them.:hmmm:
Mike.
Jimbuna
06-11-16, 10:26 AM
True that :yep:
The football match between Switzerland and Albania, wasn't much to write home about. I stop counting the yellow card after 5 or 6.
Otherwise I agree with Skybird, in tournament like Euro and World Cup and other big tournament, "video help" for the referee should be at hand when needed.
Markus
As if the French security services haven't already got enough to contend with :nope:
Mind you, in all fairness, I've read reports stating the Russian fans and some locals started it.
I've heard that too, but honestly either way wouldn't surprise me, we have form and it being France there was bound to be clashes, considering how we traditionally view them, and of course...
I don't think England footie fans really have to do anything, TBH. Even if they don't look for one, a fight normally finds them.:hmmm:
Mike.
There's that too. :haha:
Anyway, we're up against Russia tonight, the winner gets the vaccine from the FSB. :yep:
So, 1-1...
Something tells me that -
http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/l/698515-sid-meier-s-civilization-dos-screenshot-civil-disorder.png
(replace Paris with Marseilles)
Have through the news, heard that the Russian supporters started to attack the English supporter section right after the referee had blown the whistle.
Markus
Skybird
06-11-16, 06:18 PM
I learned one thing with the England match score: Britons are even more radical traditionalists, than I believed to already know. :) Although they saved the tradition just in the very last minute...
VipertheSniper
06-11-16, 07:39 PM
we have little bet running in our company and todays results in Group B played right into my hands... dozed off during Switzerland vs. Albania, luckily the goal was early or I would've missed it
Enhanced security at French stadiums...
https://twitter.com/miketipster/status/741880412960624640
https://media.giphy.com/media/gj8bDcA9gKi5i/giphy.gif
Skybird
06-12-16, 06:00 AM
Every "man-force" has its performance limits, and the French police is in overload mode since half a year. I believe they simply are overburdened. Policemen must be tired and exhausted - probably since many weeks already, anti-terror, tests during tournament preparation and all that. I do not want to know how many after hours have come together this year for the French policemen. Exhaustion, family life cut short. All this takes its toll, you cannot avoid it.
True, I don't blame the members of the force, I blame those who should be making sure that such a situation doesn't get this bad. I dare say the UK would have a similar problem if it was faced with such an event because of all the cutbacks the force has faced in recent years. :nope:
Jimbuna
06-12-16, 07:51 AM
I doubt I'm looking through rose tinted glasses but the news footage I have observed definitely shows the Russian fans as the instigators of the violence.
Pay back for international sanctions...amongst other things/excuses? :hmm2:
I doubt any of the above will help them in their efforts to persuade the IAAF they are now 'clean'.
Skybird
06-12-16, 10:46 AM
UEFA threatens to ban both Russia and England from the tournament.
I would not ban the teams, but demand passports on stadion entry - and ban all Russian audience, maybe also all British audience. I have no understanding of to what degree Britons also provoked the civil war in the streets, thats why I am split there.
A german journalist yesterday reported how he observed that a man on two crooks, trying to get away, was attacked from behind by having a chair being slammed over his head with full power.
One wonders what this scum would do if they would get a hand on somebody in a wheelchair. Setting him ablaze, maybe? Reminds me of the case of German holligans last time in france, 16 or 18 years ago, almost killing a French flic, who already laid motionless on the ground - and somebody still continued to beat his head with an iron stick as if he was playing Golf.
Football, the bloodyful game. Well done, MAFIFA - see you in two years in Russia, thanks to you.
Germany versus Ukraine this evening. After that we hopefully will have an idea of how strong the Germans really are. I'm a bit clueless, honestly said.
Again I agree with Skybird, its not the two teams fault that their supporters don't know who to behave.
Send the supporters back to their own country and let the authorities in these two country give them the punishment they think they deserve.
And if necessary ban them from seeing any football.
Markus
Schroeder
06-12-16, 01:35 PM
Well, we feared a terror strike from DAESH but I guess they'll just lean back and watch us do the terror ourself instead. 50 German Hooligans have been reported to have attacked fans of other nations as well... This Euro Championship is an absolute disgrace so far. :down:
Has there ever been that much violence at one before? And how comes that all those police and military units can't get a hold of the situation?:/\\!!
BossMark
06-12-16, 01:38 PM
Well there's one thing for sure, our fans are always on there best behavior :har::har::har:
Skybird
06-12-16, 04:45 PM
An okay-launch for the German team into the tournament: not less, but also: not more. 2:0, in parts showing okay gameplay. But the Germans presented a shaky defense, were extremely lucky in the time from minute 30 to 45, and the attack is too often lacking the needed precision.
As a tournament start, it was okay, but they have to improve. Ukrainian team was good, full of fighting spirit in first half, lacking breath in the second, but always trying to fight - however, the Ukrainians are not Spain, Italy, the fast, agile English attackers I saw yesterday, the French. For being on par with the Spaniards or to defeat their Angstgegner Italy, the Germans need more: precision, better defence, safe routine.
Boateng's last-second defense on the goal line is one of those unique moments of the tournament, no doubt. And Schweinsteiger's reporting back on duty in overtime will certainly also be the material for stories being told. But he has not really lost in weight, if I can trust my eyes?! Neuer sowed why he was voted the world'S best goalie in the past three consecutive years. No field player in the german team who rewalyl showed obvious weaknesses and deficits that would have put them in question. Seems to me Löw put a good team together.
Good referee, no obvious errors by him, and an unobstrusive but fully sufficient presence. Also, no really nasty, really evil fouls were played.
Compliment to the team in yellow, they had their moments for sure. The result could have been a draw or even a win for Ukraine, too.
Thursday it will be against Robert Lewandowski and ten others. :) One of the world's absolutely best strikers - this will show what the German defence really is worth. Today's performance would not stop him, I think.
According to some prosecutor in France, the investigation has come to the conclusion, that it was the Russian supporters who started the riots.
In the Danish newspapers, it says Russian politician have given their supports to these hooligans
Moreover, also in the article these hooligans seems well trained in what they do and have taken hooliganism to a new level
Markus
Jimbuna
06-13-16, 03:03 PM
According to some prosecutor in France, the investigation has come to the conclusion, that it was the Russian supporters who started the riots.
In the Danish newspapers, it says Russian politician have given their supports to these hooligans
Well one at least certainly has.
Meanwhile, an ultra-nationalist Russian politician has praised the country's fans for fighting England supporters and has told them to "keep it up!"
Igor Lebedev, who also sits on the Russian Football Union executive committee, said on Twitter: "I don't see anything wrong with fans fighting."
He said the violence was "not the fans' fault" and blamed the French police's "inability to organize such events".
Von Due
06-13-16, 03:33 PM
One can wonder if the Russians involved understand anything of what consequences are concerned. Official support is not the card you want to play if you want to have a team in any upcoming international events :nope:
Jimbuna
06-13-16, 03:41 PM
One can wonder if the Russians involved understand anything of what consequences are concerned. Official support is not the card you want to play if you want to have a team in any upcoming international events :nope:
True that.....the IAAF have already set the precedent.
Von Due
06-13-16, 04:18 PM
True that.....the IAAF have already set the precedent.
Time will show how that works out. Might be an issue, controlling their athletes'... medications... if their officials are all high as kites or busy working late night with Igor at the chemical lab.
Been a while since the Headhunters made headlines but they never got much open support from MPs.
Time will tell...
Jimbuna
06-14-16, 03:01 PM
Russia have been given a suspended disqualification.
Russia will be thrown out of Euro 2016 if their fans cause further trouble, says European governing body Uefa.
The Russians have also been fined 150,000 euros (£119,000) following violent scenes at the game against England in Marseille on Saturday.
The suspended disqualification and fine relate only to incidents that happened inside the stadium.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36528403
So, best behavior or away home with you all.
Cambada de coxos!!! E de Cepos! :/\\!!:/\\!!:/\\!!:/\\!!:/\\!!:/\\!!
:down::Kaleun_Goofy::Kaleun_Crying::k_confused::k_ confused::k_confused::-j:/\\x::eek::hulk::hulk::hulk:
When will a team learn to never underestimate an opponent in a game
Two time on this day we have been witness to two big surprises
Hungary beating Austria and Iceland manage to play equal against Portugal.
Markus
"We" fall asleep, and simple try to manage the score with the lower advantage. :/\\!! C'mon...
"We" fall asleep, and simple try to manage the score with the lower advantage. :/\\!! C'mon...
if Portugal should have any chances to advance they have to win the next two game, a draw is not enough or maybe they could advance as one of the best third
Markus
Mapuc, one country team can not aspired to win (yes, because programs/people/commentators here did give that idea, because we could win do the X factors [group, team, ronaldo, etc.] and being in France), and then tie/draw... :/\\!!:-j
Feuer Frei!
06-14-16, 07:34 PM
Cry-baby Ronaldo at it again:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/06/14/cristiano-ronaldo-in-astonishing-attack-on-iceland-as-minnows-ma/
I thought they'd won the Euros the way they celebrated at the end, it was unbelievable. When they don't try to play and just defend, defend, defend this in my opinion shows a small mentality and they are not going to do anything in the competition
What a clown!
This guy is so far up himself it's astonishing.
I knew he was beforehand but does this guy even have a minute level of respect for anything other than his hair, his football skills?
Nippelspanner
06-15-16, 02:40 AM
Cry-baby Ronaldo at it again:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/06/14/cristiano-ronaldo-in-astonishing-attack-on-iceland-as-minnows-ma/
What a clown!
He did notice they scored a pretty cool goal against them because their defense failed hard, does he? He probably didn't notice because he was fixing his hair while the ball wasn't up front with him anyways.
Iceland was a joy to watch, they did the only thing they could do and they did great. They fought like warrior poets. They fought like Vikings.
It is unrealistic, but I'd love them to win the whole thing - how awesome would that be?
And I'd love to see Portugal not even making it beyond group-phase... :D
And I'd love to see Portugal not even making it beyond group-phase... :D
+1!:woot:
Skybird
06-15-16, 05:22 AM
Gotta love team and fans from Iceland! :yeah:
And Ronaldo did what he can do best: being a sorehead. Such belittling comments about Iceland after the game can be made if in the match before you have wiped the other team off the green by 10:0 goals, and even then it would be considered bad style and lack of sportsmanship. But to give these comments while not even having defeated the opponent is rich, really. I will never become a fan of him, not in this life. In the end, what is he more than just a skilled but narcissistic ballplayer with a lack of character and class. Germany's former goalie Oliver Kahn, also not a real fan of Ronaldo like me, recently commented best on his notorious posing on the grass by saying "In recent times I have seen his sixpack more often than the breasts of my wife."
Nippelspanner
06-15-16, 05:48 AM
Kahn really said that? Haha, I really started to like the guy after he ended his career. His knowledge about the sport is tremendous, same as Mehmet Scholl, who I love to listen to. Both are spot on with their comments and predictions and real characters.
Miss Netzer & Delling though.
Von Due
06-15-16, 06:02 AM
Isn't Ronaldo cute? Iceland didn't try, he said. Well, that speaks volumes about Ronaldo and his teammates when their opponents don't even have to try, they don't even have to do anything at all, and they will still not lose. Not sure if Ronaldo is aware of it but not losing is kinda important if you want to win.
Jimbuna
06-15-16, 06:20 AM
Does anyone actually take any notice of Ronaldo these days? :hmm2:
Von Due
06-15-16, 04:26 PM
After France - Albania I must say that even if Albania wasn't a power house going godzilla mode on the French, they have very little to be down and blue about despite the loss. Being in the game for almost the entire game against someone who on paper should have made foie gras of the Albanians, I'll give the boys in white a solid round of applause.
After France - Albania I must say that even if Albania wasn't a power house going godzilla mode on the French, they have very little to be down and blue about despite the loss. Being in the game for almost the entire game against someone who on paper should have made foie gras of the Albanians, I'll give the boys in white a solid round of applause.
One thing is what it is written on a paper another thing is the reality on the soccer field.
What some seem to forget is the psychology in a game-France is at home-people expect them to win. They have a huge pressure on them and that can sometime backfire.
Markus
Jimbuna
06-16-16, 10:09 AM
England beat Wales 2-1. Good to see us scoring in injury time instead of conceding as we did against Russia.
About this England-Wales match and the referee
One thing is almost sure-He has probably blown his whistle for the last time in this tournament.
The penalty committed by the Welsh player in their defend area in the first half, was coarse and should have been discovered by the referee.
The UEFA referees comity see these things and this referee got a big minus in his performance book.
Markus
Skybird
06-16-16, 05:11 PM
German draw with Poland, 0-0.
German defence improved, German striking still lacks precision and that last bit of determination.
Both teams neutralised each other, the result - both the draw and the two zeroes - is okay.
Ukraine is already out in this group, Ireland, Poland and Germany still must kill one more amongst them.
And since the Irish seem to not wanting to be just cannon fodder and played quite strong, it is absolutely possible that on a bad day next Tuesday - it will be the Germans driving home, too. :o They are good and have the strongest player pool of the tournament, but they still do not show to be as superior as many people before the tournament expected, hoped, wished for. Too much fruitless arts in their gameplay so far. Bang-buck-ratio needs to improve drastically - and quickly now. I think the Poles will beat the Ukraine. They defeated Germany in the last match of the qualification round, so they are absolutely capable. If Ireland lands a winning punch, it would be the Poles and the Irish surviving the group.
Last call for Löw to be deeply worried. Its not the time to pose "cool" and "relaxed" any longer.
Götze disappointed. Gomez did not fit in, or the team did not understand how to play in his support.
Feuer Frei!
06-16-16, 08:23 PM
German draw with Poland, 0-0.
The biggest and only real chances fell to Poland.
48th minute an absolute shocker for Poland missing dead on in front of goal!
Die Mannschaft extremely lucky to escape with a draw.
After the game Jogy was quoted as saying he was happy with the draw!
Of course he was!
He knew.
Historically Germany has always had poor showings in their second game in a major competition, and you are right of course, the time to act cool is over, although you know of course that amongst other things, a sign that the coach isn't cool, calm and collected anymore is not a clever move.
Certainly not to the outside world, but even internally, what show would that be to the players?
If the coach isn't cool.
Yes, realistically Germany so far haven't shown good form, they haven't shown good and consistent form since winning the world cup.
Poland only needs to draw in their last game, so do Germany.
That is enough for both teams to advance, no wins needed by either.
Although it's important that Germany go for a win.
Will they play recklessly, open and fast counterattacks, not stack players in defense, play a passing game and keep posession or will they play open football?
They have to be careful Nth Ireland are fast on the wings, and play a good counterattack.
Much like Poland. And indeed Ukraine.
I think the former, to avoid that drive home.
They have always had problems in scoring since Klose retired and when he was in his prime.
Gomez is a dud, they picked him purely because of his goal haul in that infamous Turkish league, i mean you have to be kidding that a player gets picked purely on a goal haul in a league that no-one cares about and isn't really competitive on the world stage along with other leagues.
If he had scored majorly in lets say the Premier League or the La Liga or Bundes League then i could understand.
It isd what it is, Goetze is out of form.
Hummels had a good game, very strong defensively, Boateng of course as well.
Kroos once again proving he is such a talent.
It won't be enough for stallwarts like Boateng, Kroos, Hummels and Khedira to carry them thrtough to the final.
Drexler shows signs of being a important cog to the team but still developing, and a major tourney is not the place to have players who are still developing their careers, an arguement can be made that players need to be blooded, but when so much is at stake, caution and clever selections take precedence.
In the voice of Bruce Buffer: It's time!
BossMark
06-17-16, 03:20 AM
Does anyone actually take any notice of Ronaldo these days? :hmm2:
Whos he :hmmm:
Jimbuna
06-17-16, 05:16 AM
Whos he :hmmm:
I hear he is in the same club side as that Welsh Planet of the Apes stand-in :hmm2:
Skybird
06-17-16, 06:05 AM
German team is like Abba with a ball: well-behaved, kind, clean and tidy.
Jimbuna
06-17-16, 06:22 AM
German team is like Abba with a ball: well-behaved, kind, clean and tidy.
They could soon be facing their 'Waterloo' :)
So could England for that matter :hmm2:
Catfish
06-17-16, 07:29 AM
German team is like Abba with a ball: well-behaved, kind, clean and tidy.
But Abba was more fun. And they made way better music. :O:
Nippelspanner
06-17-16, 08:08 AM
"Oh, Sweden vs. Italy, let's watch that and have a good tim....*hears voice of female commentator* ... nevermind." :shifty:
BossMark
06-18-16, 04:28 AM
They could soon be facing their 'Waterloo' :)
So could England for that matter :hmm2:
I think England could actually go all the way this time.
Catfish
06-18-16, 05:17 AM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y174/penaeus/comparisons_zpsqfcgbltz.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/penaeus/media/comparisons_zpsqfcgbltz.jpg.html)
:haha:
Skybird
06-18-16, 06:11 AM
Storming Spaniard stampede the Turks. Spain is the team to beat in this tournament. German newspaper titles: "They are like the Germans. Just better in all regards."
Currently I cannot imagine Germany beating Spain. The Germans whisper "Tikki.......? :huh:" The Spaniards reply "Takkkaaaaah...!!! :arrgh!: "
Jimbuna
06-18-16, 07:19 AM
I think England could actually go all the way this time.
I wish I could feel as optomistic as you :)
Storming Spaniard stampede the Turks. Spain is the team to beat in this tournament. German newspaper titles: "They are like the Germans. Just better in all regards."
Currently I cannot imagine Germany beating Spain. The Germans whisper "Tikki.......? :huh:" The Spaniards reply "Takkkaaaaah...!!! :arrgh!: "
Aye, the Spaniards are looking that little bit better than the rest :yep:
0-0, enfim...
And... Some one should be drag trough the street and flogged in the public square. After that, every one should had the chance to pull a pubic hair from his derrière. Since he may not have any, that would take longer...
http://thumbs.web.sapo.io/?W=800&H=533&Q=65&pic=http%3A%2F%2F7.fotos.web.sapo.io%2Fi%2Fu1a04b7 76%2F19710750_Yi7IU.png&hash=2b710477f34dec7ebb298159a0fb5bdc&errorpic=http%3A%2F%2Fassets.web.sapo.io%2Fdesport o%2Fimgs%2Fno-photo.jpg&png=1
Nippelspanner
06-18-16, 03:57 PM
Portugal :haha:
Before this tournament started Danish Bet had a 12 bets coupon where you had to predict the Euro 2016 in all
1. Who's going to win the trophy and
2 to 7 who will win each group (from group A to F)
I put Portugal as the winner in their group I did so after having studying the other- Hungary, Iceland and Austria.
Markus
Feuer Frei!
06-18-16, 08:24 PM
Spain beating Turkey......
well to be fair Turkey aren't exactly quality opposition.
Do they look good so far?
Yes.
Do Italy and France?
Yes.
Judging a team on their performance against the likes of Turkey is.....well, a bit premature.
Let's not forget what happened in the second group game against Ghana and Germany in the world cup.
A little reminder that the score was 2:2.
And look what Germany did in that tournament.
For neutral fans it's good.
For German fans, it's not the sky falling in.
Far from it.
Was a pleasure to see Crybaby botch the penalty :haha:
I put Portugal as the winner in their group I did so after having studying the other- Hungary, Iceland and Austria.
Markus
Not even us put that kind of faith in our team, why did you do that???:huh::huh::huh::03:
Jimbuna
06-19-16, 07:14 AM
A Scotsman walks into a bar, normally he'd be with an Englishman, an Irishman and a Welshman but they were at the Euros :O:
Sorry, couldn't resist....I'll get my coat http://i.imgur.com/Kzdr7qy.gif
Not even us put that kind of faith in our team, why did you do that???:huh::huh::huh::03:
After have seen some of the test matches and read about other test matches from the team in that group I picked Portugal as the winner of the Group.
Todays matches was only Switzerland-France worth watching.
The first match between Romania-Albania was not so intense as the match I'm watching right now France-Switzerland.
Tomorrow it's
Russia-Wales
And
Slovakia-England
Wonder which match will be best to watch
Markus
Jimbuna
06-19-16, 07:05 PM
England :sunny:
After have seen some of the test matches and read about other test matches from the team in that group I picked Portugal as the winner of the Group.
Markus
In theory, yes. Speaking franklin Portugal team is not a bad one, or a great one. It's a good one (IMO) with some good players and one great one.
The problem for me is that it is a old team, with some players that can not pick the ball and run fast in an attack or counter-attack. We have young players that the coach do not use (from the beginning of the match or ever). Why? Possible the experience/youth dilemma? Maybe.
Ronaldo, besides all one can call him, for me, he is a great player and one of the best. And defend him, since he is Portuguese! He can be arrogant, crybaby,pretty,ugly, only do commercial for hair style, etc. But I respect all that since he is not something above critics or opinions.
He does poorly in our country team, but does great in RM. That is something not exclusive of him, other great Portuguese players suffer of that. Many players of his team are better than ours and so, explains a lot. Of course, that is no excuse for his behaviour or way of playing.
Portugal team also does not have a striker player, and who do you think they choose for that? Again, that is no excuse, since in the end, even I get mad for the results, I do not get angry. They win millions per month, I work for 500 €. They should only won some € if they won the competition, not X by game, possibly that would make them play better.
To end, about the last game, it was not a bad game, Portugal did (for me) play quite good, but didn't win. Austria was dangerous in the beginning and end of both parts, and had 3 or 4 chances of goal. Portugal dominated the game, but besides no scoring, I also saw a little of bad luck. And the Austrian goal keeper is there for a reason, to defend and he was the man of the match.
Jimbuna
06-20-16, 08:29 AM
Tis in Englands own hands tonight. If they win, none of the other match scores matter.
Jimbuna
06-20-16, 04:10 PM
Despite totally dominating the game England couldn't score and with Wales beating Russia 3-0 it means runner-up spot in the group will have to do.
If Portugal does its job for once, England could be facing most likely Hungary. or less likely Austria. if not Iceland steal 1 points from Austria which I think is very possible if you look at the way Austria have played so far.
Markus
Skybird
06-21-16, 03:24 PM
Na bitte, geht doch! :) After the German repaired their defence in the match against Poland, they used the match against Northern Ireland to fix their offense as well. With the result that they played the Irish into the ground. The Irish tried to fight back, but were pressed against the wall where they sunk unsung.
The only construction site that remains is conversion of chances. The Germans had 17 grade-1-goal opportunities of the absolute top category - but scored just one goal. The result should have been something in the range of 6:0.
Germany has arrived in the tournament. In this state one has to count with them.
Remarkable - no card shown. Very fair match.
Skybird
06-21-16, 06:19 PM
Croatia beats Spain, which is absolutely a sensation.
It also means that Spain will face Italy next.
Which is a match the Germans will have a sharp eye on - because they will one round later meet the winner of that ^ match.
Finals are very early in this tournament...
Italy is an Angstgegner for German teams, having not defeated them at major events since long time. The numbers against Spain also are not in favour of Germany. But if they want to become European title holders, they must be able to beat everybody. So why not starting early this time? :)
Ahahahahaah.
1-0
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Nippelspanner
06-22-16, 12:05 PM
Go Hungary!
Show the Gockel!
Edit: OH FFS! 5 seconds after posting this, that arrogant bastard scores...ARGH.
Edit²: Fixed again. 3:2 now. :cool:
Go Hungary!
Show the Gockel!
Edit: OH FFS! 5 seconds after posting this, that arrogant bastard scores...ARGH.
Edit²: Fixed again. 3:2 now. :cool:
Fixed again :O:
Bahhh... Ridiculous... 3 games and 3 draws, it must count for something!!!
And that 3 last minutes…
Well, now is Croatia:dead::dead::dead:!
Catfish
06-22-16, 03:44 PM
Ireland scores against Italy in the 84th minute !! 1:0 for Ireland !
Nippelspanner
06-22-16, 03:53 PM
Yeah that's right Zlatan, take a hike... a long one.
Hahaha...
So glad to see this piece of work go.
Feuer Frei!
06-22-16, 06:35 PM
So it begins:
SWITZERLAND v POLAND
(Poland to win)
WALES v NORTHERN IRELAND
(NI to win)
CROATIA v PORTUGAL
(Portugal to win although go Croatia)
FRANCE v REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
(No-brainer here, France)
GERMANY v SLOVAKIA
(Deutschland to win)
HUNGARY v BELGIUM
(Belgium to win)
ITALY v SPAIN
(Spain to win)
ENGLAND v ICELAND
(England to win, go Iceland)
^ If any surprises, in which matches do you think it will happen ?
If Portugal don't start to play football I see a surprise in that game.
I think Iceland will manage to play 0-0 or 1-1 the first 90 minutes and lose 2-1 in the extra time.
Markus
Feuer Frei!
06-22-16, 06:50 PM
^ If any surprises, in which matches do you think it will happen
This is the knock-out stage now.
The surprises will be kept to a minimum from now on i think.
The bigger teams who are 'expected' to win, will win as one loss and it's over.
Possibly Croatia against Portugal, although Croatia winning wouldn't be a surprise.
EDIT:
Quarter-finals
QF1: Switzerland/Poland v Croatia/Portugal – Thursday 30 June, 21:00 (Marseille)
QF2: Wales/Northern Ireland v Hungary/Belgium – Friday 1 July, 21:00 (Lille)
QF3: Germany/Slovakia v Italy/Spain – Saturday 2 July, 21:00 (Bordeaux)
QF4: France/Republic of Ireland v England/Iceland – Sunday 3 July, 21:00 (Saint-Denis)
Semi-finals
SF1: winner QF1 v winner QF2 – Wednesday 6 July, 21:00 (Lyon)
SF2: winner QF3 v winner QF4 – Thursday 7 July, 21:00 (Marseille)
Final
Winner SF 1 v winner SF2 – Sunday 10 July, 21:00 (Saint-Denis)
Skybird
06-22-16, 08:18 PM
^ Everything is possible.
Last time Germany played Slovakia, Germany was processed 1:3 (1:2). That was - three weeks ago, a test match in preparation for the tournament. Possible that Germany plays Slovakia through the wall this time, but once again does not score sufficiently - and Slovakia landing that one lucky punch.
All the other matches could very well be imagined as well to be won by the other team than Feuerfrei mentioned.
And sorry, England, but I am with Iceland in that match. The Icelanders have won me over in this tournament.
I would prefer England, at least we have a good history in the knock-out phases with it!
But no, we will not win against Croatia. The easiest group and we do not win any match, 3 draws and we pass in 3rd?
:shifty::down::hmph::88)!!!
Jimbuna
06-23-16, 06:42 AM
Iceland have certainly turned out to be the surprise package in the tournament and England will need to be at their best to overcome them.
One problem being Iceland are scoring goals and England aren't firing on all pistons up front.
Watching the Portugal vs Croatia game
http://i27.tinypic.com/r7t5wl.jpg
Catfish
06-25-16, 04:24 PM
Watching the Portugal vs Croatia game
http://i27.tinypic.com/r7t5wl.jpg
So true. Yawn. :dead:
Catfish
06-25-16, 04:29 PM
Whaddaya say, 1:0 for Portugal.
Yeahhhh! :O: The PIC was true, this game was bachelors vs married (expression here). But finally, fortuna smiled!
During the World Cup in Brazil, some viewer came up with the idea, that the penalty shootout should be before the ordinary match instead.
I remember clearly some Danish and some Swedish sport journalist speaking highly about that idea.
I myself think that would be an great idea-Having the penalty shootout before the ordinary match.
Markus
Skybird
06-26-16, 01:59 AM
During the World Cup in Brazil, some viewer came up with the idea, that the penalty shootout should be before the ordinary match instead.
I remember clearly some Danish and some Swedish sport journalist speaking highly about that idea.
I myself think that would be an great idea-Having the penalty shootout before the ordinary match.
Markus
"I am [Rank] [Name], and I am dead. As of this moment, we are all dead. We go into battle to reclaim our lives. This, we do gladly, for we are Jem'Hadar. Remember - victory is life."
Tempting. :D
Have not watched it, but I read the match Wales-Ireland has been even worse. "Collective refusal to work", somebody called it.
Jimbuna
06-26-16, 08:15 AM
Well done Wales.
Skybird
06-27-16, 10:56 AM
Nice match by the German team, 3:0, but considering the number of chances: still not goal-efficient enough. Superior Draxler and Boateng. Slovakians tried what they could, but were chanceless, they got plowed under.
However - it seems the beast has awakened. But they really must learn to score better. No points are awarded for just beautifully playing. German press says Löw again was anything but happy after the match. Rumour even said he was fuming.
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And the Belgians showed why before the tournament they were seen as secret favourites. Scoring style: cold as ice. When you play against these, do not party too long the night before, else they might shock-frost you and store you on the rocks.
Italy wins 2-0! There goes Spain (champion in title).
How was the match? I only saw the scores now.
Jimbuna
06-27-16, 01:13 PM
Italy completely controlled the match making Spain look rather ordinary and could easily have won by a margin of one or two goals more.
Next up is England v Iceland, the reward for the winners of that game being a quarter final game against France.
It is being rumored Sterling will be in the starting line up, I hope not.
Jimbuna
06-27-16, 02:52 PM
England 1- 2 Iceland at half time and no complaints from me.
Schroeder
06-27-16, 02:55 PM
It is being rumored Sterling will be in the starting line up, I hope not.
Really? After all the value he lost after the Brexit vote?:doh:
:O:
Really? After all the value he lost after the Brexit vote?:doh:
:O:
Well, at least Roy Hodgson seems to have a coherant plan for England to leave Europe... :haha:
Nippelspanner
06-27-16, 03:06 PM
Italy completely controlled the match making Spain look rather ordinary and could easily have won by a margin of one or two goals more.
I will borrow this line for later after Germany vs. Italy... :-?
Jimbuna
06-27-16, 03:13 PM
Well, at least Roy Hodgson seems to have a coherant plan for England to leave Europe... :haha:
LOL :)
Jimbuna
06-27-16, 03:14 PM
I will borrow this line for later after Germany vs. Italy... :-?
Whoever wins that one it should be a real good match with possibly the champions coming from the victor.
Catfish
06-27-16, 03:18 PM
The english team has just been offered to go whale watching by Iceland, in case they do not dare to come home :D
Nippelspanner
06-27-16, 03:52 PM
Ar rhis point, I just want them to win the whole thing.
It is definitely possible - yet unlikely.
Still, hats off to this remarkable team.
Jimbuna
06-27-16, 04:02 PM
England 1-2 Iceland and yet another chapter in English footballs book of failures.
Poor Woy won't be getting a renewed contract but no surprises there, he shouldn't have been appointed manager in the first place.
What England so desperately needs is someone who can mold a group of overpaid multi-millionaire dispassionate individuals into a team that cares passionately enough to play as a team and that is capable of beating a country with a population the size of the city of Leicester.
God only knows what France would have done to us had we been fortunate enough to progress into the next round.
Come home boys....your place in the annals of English footballing infamy is well deserved.
Catfish
06-27-16, 04:02 PM
Ar rhis point, I just want them to win the whole thing.
It is definitely possible - yet unlikely.
Still, hats off to this remarkable team.
Wow yes, they were really good. I would also like to see them win. Seldom seen a crew that plays so well together, and has obviously fun doing it.
(..this name Sigthorsson :rotfl2:)
Congratulation to Iceland.
I newer expeted this would happen-I had guessed the experience and that football is the number 1 sport in England and they have some great players on their team, would take its term and England would win with 2-1 or 3-1.
Oh well how could I be wrong.
Markus
Jimbuna
06-27-16, 04:16 PM
Woy has fallen on his sword and resigned, saving the English FA the bother of not renewing his contract...GOOD!!
Skybird
06-27-16, 04:34 PM
Gotta love team and fans from Iceland! :yeah:
Englanders are excused today, of course.
And sorry, England, but I am with Iceland in that match. The Icelanders have won me over in this tournament.
---
And Germany meets the Italians next round.
Of course.
Whom else.
How some German commentators and writers before the cup could have said that this old Italian teams is not to be counted to the favourites this time, is beyond me. A German, saying that? C'mon, its the team from Italy - and that means they are all Italians! :D So far Italy served Germany its lower bottom on a plate every time they meet at major tournaments. Maybe this time it will be different, this time its the team with the lowest against the team with the oldest age average in the competition.
Spain dissapointed. Not much to say there.
Skybird
06-27-16, 05:12 PM
I just read that the Icelandish (?) scorer is named Sigthorsson.
Sigthor. German: Siegtor=Victory Goal.
:D Nomen est omen.
Catfish
06-28-16, 01:17 AM
I just read that the Icelandish (?) scorer is named Sigthorsson.
Sigthor. German: Siegtor=Victory Goal.
:D Nomen est omen.
It seems i'm on your ignore list :D
Skybird
06-28-16, 05:30 AM
When an Italian football player gets born, its always a ball coming out first - and not before after that comes the angry baby, because it wants its ball back.
:D
Jimbuna
06-28-16, 09:00 AM
I expect the winners of the Germany v Italy game to be the eventual tournament winners.
BossMark
06-28-16, 01:15 PM
Well we did vote to get out of European...................
Unbeliveble! Yeah!
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Jimbuna
06-30-16, 06:56 PM
Portugal get through to semi finals and have yet to win a match in open play :hmm2:
Moonlight
07-01-16, 09:38 AM
Portugal beat Croatia 1-0, Ricardo Quaresma scored late in extra time as Portugal defeated Croatia to set up a Euro 2016 quarter-final match against Poland. :smug: Source http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36566064
Wales should drop out tonight, that's if Belgium play a team game tonight instead of playing like a bunch of individuals.:hmmm:
Me thinks 3-1, and with Eden Hazard hitting some form at last he might just give the Wales defence a nightmare they will not forget in a hurry.:sunny:
Jimbuna
07-01-16, 09:42 AM
Quite correct regarding Croatia I meant to say normal playing time :oops:
BossMark
07-01-16, 10:48 AM
Hoping that Wales win tonight, but cant really see it but you never know :hmm2:
Catfish
07-01-16, 03:22 PM
2:1 for Wales now :hmmm:
I know i should support Belgium (EU), they both play a good nice football but .. Go Wales! :up:
max-peck
07-01-16, 03:40 PM
Bloody well done Wales
Have played a stormer so far
Go and score another :up:
max-peck
07-01-16, 03:44 PM
Get in there :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
max-peck
07-01-16, 03:52 PM
Ah - my iplayer buffered a few times - I think I may have been several minutes behind real life :03::03::03:
max-peck
07-01-16, 03:57 PM
Absolutely incredible performance
Outstanding work by Wales :up:
If there are any Welsh members following this - well done :up:
You should be very proud of the way your fellas came back from 1-0 to deliver this outstanding result against what is rated as the second best football team in the world :D:D:D
Portugal next - good luck Wales :up:
Moonlight
07-01-16, 04:29 PM
Wales should drop out tonight, that's if Belgium play a team game tonight instead of playing like a bunch of individuals.:hmmm:
Me thinks 3-1, and with Eden Hazard hitting some form at last he might just give the Wales defence a nightmare they will not forget in a hurry.:sunny:
Its a team game Belgium, what don't you get about that fact. :/\\!!
Well done Wales, it was men against boys tonight and you spanked them good and proper.:up:
The Belgium coach is as bloody rubbish as Roy Hodgson, why did he think it was a good idea to bring Fellaini on at half time. :nope: The damned fool needs his bloody head examined and should be the next coach to be fired me thinks. :haha:
At least I got the score right tonight :hmph:
Skybird
07-01-16, 06:02 PM
Impressive Wales! I did not have them on the list. They really grew into the match.
BossMark
07-02-16, 09:55 AM
Very well done Wales :yep:, hopefully I will be saying very well done Italy later on :yep:
Nippelspanner
07-02-16, 09:55 AM
hopefully I will be saying very well done Italy later on :yep:
:stare:
Jimbuna
07-02-16, 10:22 AM
Very well done Wales :yep:, hopefully I will be saying very well done Italy later on :yep:
Agreed.
Catfish
07-02-16, 10:39 AM
If that arrogant pr.. Balotelli would still play for Italy i'd wish them the worst :haha:
In contrast to public perception just of all Italy always has a strategy and holds on to it, with a lot of discipline. Germany has not won once against Italy in the EM, in the last 30 years i think. But Loew's team is highly motivated, and i think they have a good chance.
However the outcome, Italy's trainer Conte changes to Chelsea, afterwards.
Moonlight
07-02-16, 10:46 AM
The big guns of European football meet up again, this is the matchup of the tournament so far and Germany who have been chugging along in second gear are up against the all action no stars of Italy.
Prediction time, :hmmm:
This is a tough one to call, if Germany gets into 4th gear pretty damn quick I expect it to be all over in the first half. But if that Germany midfield, ie Sami Khedira and Mesut Ozil aren't firing on all cylinders I expect Italy to grind them into the ground and win 1-0 in extra time.
Germany 3-0 Italy
Catfish
07-02-16, 01:51 PM
I hope for a 2:1 for Germany, but i would not bet on it. :)
max-peck
07-02-16, 03:52 PM
penalties again ??:):)
Catfish
07-02-16, 04:21 PM
Germany has more chances but does not manage to get one more goal.
Italian goal by 11 mtr after hand play by Boateng, which he can't be blamed for.
Five yellow cards for Italy, one for Germany, two of the best german players out because of injuries :shifty:
Well, Italy is not better, but i fear it will end like usually :-?
danasan
07-02-16, 04:35 PM
now we have the mess...
Nippelspanner
07-02-16, 04:52 PM
I hate penalties, since Argentina my nerves can't handle them anymore.
Still in awe, we really made it. :o
danasan
07-02-16, 04:55 PM
That was the crime of the century
Catfish
07-02-16, 04:59 PM
^ Indeed.
I'm devastated, can't really be happy.
But thanks to BossMark and Jim, for the good wishes :O:
Nippelspanner
07-02-16, 05:01 PM
I'm devastated, can't really be happy.
Exactly how I feel. Didn't cheer or anything, I was just glad it is finally over.
Now, I hope Iceland will beat France, that could get interesting.
I see us beating both teams - but I would be very happy for Iceland if they make it through.
Skybird
07-02-16, 05:02 PM
What a drama.
:)
Moonlight
07-02-16, 05:16 PM
Crikey!, that must have been a nightmare penalty shootout for both sets of players, at one point I said to myself "doesn't anyone want to win this bloody game. :haha:
Jimbuna
07-03-16, 07:50 AM
Didn't see the game but fair dues, it had to have an outcome on the night.
One final obstacle being France I reckon but I did say much earlier the winner of the Germany v Italy game would produce the tournament victor.
Skybird
07-03-16, 11:57 AM
Injuries strike the Germans: Gomez RTBs early, big question marks behind Khedira and Schweinsteiger.
Could be the chance for the youngsters to establish themselves even further.
Nippelspanner
07-03-16, 12:05 PM
Gomez is no loss at all. No idea why he is part of this team anyways.
Nippelspanner
07-03-16, 02:46 PM
Well, Germany vs. France it is then.
Catfish
07-03-16, 03:00 PM
I had really hoped for a better result, for Iceland. It is France alright, but 4:0 after 45 minutes.. :-?
Jimbuna
07-03-16, 07:44 PM
Bring it on.
Feuer Frei!
07-03-16, 08:43 PM
Gomez is no loss at all. No idea why he is part of this team anyways.
The real question should be why Low only chose 1 attacker for this euro.
Muller, Goetze are not attackers.
To be honest he actually surprised me here at the Euros.
He will be missed because one reason is that he draws 1 or 2 players to him when in the 16-yard box, which then frees up others around him like Ozil, Muller and co.
He will be missed, his physical strength and tall frame for set pieces and also for creating chances in the box will be a loss.
Hummels out, another blow, possibly Khedira and Schweini too, that evens the playing field up very much now with France.
France have shown their defense is suspect against Iceland.
Germany will capitalise on that.
Tchocky
07-04-16, 11:37 AM
Partying in Reykjavik last night. What an atmosphere.
The missus even made it on to ESPN!
Pictures to follow.
Nippelspanner
07-04-16, 11:58 AM
The real question should be why Low only chose 1 attacker for this euro.
Muller, Goetze are not attackers.
He picked two, you forgot Podolski (edit: and Leroy Sané!) who I (both) value more than Gomez.
To be honest he actually surprised me here at the Euros.
He will be missed because one reason is that he draws 1 or 2 players to him when in the 16-yard box
What striker doesn't draw this kind of attention? :hmmm:
And if not - easy goals.
BossMark
07-05-16, 01:35 AM
Here is my predictions for the semi finals and final
Wales to beat Portugal
Germany to beat France
The final
Wales to shock the Germans.............
Catfish
07-05-16, 03:34 AM
...
The final
Wales to shock the Germans.............
I don't know about Wales but the german players are completely overpaid. Would have wished Iceland gets on and beats Germany, but Wales would do. :arrgh!:
Feuer Frei!
07-05-16, 05:12 AM
you forgot Podolski Easy to forget him when he doesn't even register on the coaches plans.
Wouldn't be surprised if he plays Muller up front, with Goetze supplying along with Ozil and Kroos.
Schweini looks highly unlikely in playing.
Low has already been quoted as saying he will not field players who are less than 100% fit.
What striker doesn't draw this kind of attention? :hmmm:
And if not - easy goals.Well yes, you have proven my point.
He will be missed.
France has a different playstyle than Italy.
Italy is much more predictable however France with Pogba are a more mobile team.
Skybird
07-05-16, 09:22 AM
France is on fire after the last match. And it is a home match for them. And they have the one or the other warrior-type of player who could go on rampage.
That is the one thing I negatively note about the Germans: all well-edcuated, obedient, kind, sober, clean guys. No really dirty evil mean dog there, biting. No balking, all purring. - I think this is what has driven Scholl crazy a bit in his comments after the Italian match.
On paper Germany may look superior, but I fear the French will be fighting like crazy until one by one they have fallen - or scored that happy goal that decides it for them.
Chances are 50:50, this is a match where everything is possible. I rated the the Italian match with 50:50, too. It ended with pure luck deciding it, no sign of German superiority in that match - The German team had over 60% ball possession, but the Italians had as many opportunities. Which made them the more economic, more efficient team: they achieved the same statistical numbers with much lesser ball possession. And I saw nothing, absolutely nothing from the hoped-for physical inferiority and lacking breath of the Italians due to the higher average age. The German calculations before the match did not prove to be that right at all, and Scholl's criticism maybe is not as pointless as many now claim it is. Löw'S team did not win because their calculation and tactics made it so. They won because luck was in their favour. And basing on luck can hardly be called a "strategy".
Nippelspanner
07-05-16, 09:46 AM
Well yes, you have proven my point.
He will be missed.
No. Since he can be replaced by literally every other player - for that matter - he won't, not when we consider his continuously mediocre performance.
Let me rephrase what I said earlier: I won't miss him.
France is on fire after the last match. And it is a home match for them. And they have the one or the other warrior-type of player who could go on rampage.
That is the one thing I negatively note about the Germans: all well-edcuated, obedient, kind, sober, clean guys. No really dirty evil mean dog there, biting. No balking, all purring. - I think this is what has driven Scholl crazy a bit in his comments after the Italian match.
On paper Germany may look superior, but I fear the French will be fighting like crazy until one by one they have fallen - or scored that happy goal that decides it for them.
Chances are 50:50, this is a match where everything is possible. I rated the the Italian match with 50:50, too. It ended with pure luck deciding it, no sign of German superiority in that match - The German team had over 60% ball possession, but the Italians had as many opportunities. Which made them the more economic, more efficient team: they achieved the same statistical numbers with much lesser ball possession. And I saw nothing, absolutely nothing from the hoped-for physical inferiority and lacking breath of the Italians due to the higher average age. The German calculations before the match did not prove to be that right at all, and Scholl's criticism maybe is not as pointless as many now claim it is. Löw'S team did not win because their calculation and tactics made it so. They won because luck was in their favour. And basing on luck can hardly be called a "strategy".
Your comment made me remember some football expert on Danish TV before the Semifinal between Brazil and Germany in World Cup 2014.
Brazil are playing on home ground, they have some great players etc etc
Germany have(they mentioned some of the players) etc etc
All the experts agreed on this was the end station for Germany, but there could be place for surprise.
We know how it went.
Markus
Skybird
07-05-16, 11:40 AM
The Brazilians already were too drunk of their expected victory before the match had even begun. They took the outcome for granted, and that was their doom. As we say in German: man soll das Fell des Bären nicht teilen, bevor man ihn erlegt hat - there is no use in planning how to cut the bearskin before one has brought the bear down.
Do you think it will ever happen again that a German team stampedes a Brazilian team into the ground by 7 goals?
They will learn their lesson. And will never forget that defeat.
The French are on fire, yes, by that compensating for some lack in individual player quality. But they do not take a defeat of the Germans for granted, not at all. I stick to it: 50:50. There is no clear, dominant favourite. Also, there is a difference in mentality between the French and the Brazilians. And finally, Germans and French know each other better in football duels, than the Brazilians know the Germans; French and German teams have clashed often enough to know quite well how difficult both find it to play the other.
I do not say the Germans are doomed, I only say the outcome is unpredictable, and absolutely open. Any going, from total superiority of one team to total equality and penalty shooting, would not surprise me. If it already were against Portugal, I would say the Germans are a bit the favopurite, and if it already were against the team from Wales, I would say the Germans are clearly the fapourites. But this is France - beside Italy, Spain and Germany one of the real heavy guns of world football (as far as Europe is concerned). On this level, it is like heavyweight boxing: every fighter could land the lucky hit, everbodye could knockout everyone else with just one blow - its heavyweight boxing.
Nippelspanner
07-05-16, 11:44 AM
Your comment made me remember some football expert on Danish TV before the Semifinal between Brazil and Germany in World Cup 2014.
Brazil are playing on home ground, they have some great players etc etc
Germany have(they mentioned some of the players) etc etc
All the experts agreed on this was the end station for Germany, but there could be place for surprise.
We know how it went.
Markus
Yes, but what happened 2014 was something completely unique.
Something like that never happened in history, and it maybe never happen like this again.
You can't really use this as any "likely" outcome - because it is everything but that.
I totally agree - France has the upper hand.
Of course that doesn't mean no unforeseeable things can happen.
Skybird
07-05-16, 12:06 PM
Thinking of it, and recalling it, I would even say the Brazilians took the outcome of the the whole tournament in 2014 for granted, team and people alike. Different to that, the French know that they will need to fight with everything they have, to get through.
max-peck
07-06-16, 02:57 PM
Wales looking strong in defence
Could go either way
max-peck
07-06-16, 03:08 PM
I obviously spoke too soon :oops:
Yeeeaaaahh!
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Yeeeaaaahh!
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if its going to be Portugal-France in the Final, I will cross my fingers and hope Portugal will win the trophy.
If its going to be Portugal-Germany-Sorry, my favorite team in Euro cup is Germany I'm going to hope they will win the trophy
Markus
Catfish
07-06-16, 04:18 PM
You can say what you will about Ronaldo, but when it comes to football this man is brilliant.
Wales should have got at least one goal though.
if its going to be Portugal-France in the Final, I will cross my fingers and hope Portugal will win the trophy.
If its going to be Portugal-Germany-Sorry, my favorite team in Euro cup is Germany I'm going to hope they will win the trophy
Markus
Yes. And the tradition with Portugal could be meet. Normally we loose with the winning team of the tournament.
You can say what you will about Ronaldo, but when it comes to football this man is brilliant.
Wales should have got at least one goal though.
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Jimbuna
07-07-16, 05:40 AM
Top show Wales :sunny:
Nippelspanner
07-07-16, 02:52 PM
Ugh, talking about undeserved goals. :shifty:
I hope the better team will turn things around, it's always sad when the team that deserves it more doesn't win because the others got lucky.
Let's see.
Catfish
07-07-16, 03:23 PM
And now Boateng is out.. injured.
The AfD will be so happy :nope:
Skybird
07-07-16, 03:55 PM
Tja-tja, so it goes. The german team once again learns that dominating ball possession time and having many chances, does not get factored into the final scoring - only achieved goals. And in this, several other teams simply are more effective and certainly more economic than the Germans who waste more than they can afford.
In the end, the French attack class and their defensive strategy earned them the win well deserved - they are the better team. Longer fangs, sharper claws.
Germany loses for its own - lacking efficiency. If that does not sound queer. :)
Now all eyes are on Angelique Kerber. :)
Catfish
07-07-16, 04:06 PM
Congratulations to France. A bit unfortunate for the german team with good players missing, but if none of the chances you have work out in the end.. french team was not so much better, but got the upper hand after the penalty kick. In the end well done and deserved.
And good to see it going to France, after the terror acts of the last year.
Jimbuna
07-09-16, 09:45 AM
I only saw the highlights because of work commitments but my initial prediction was that Germany would win the tournament.
Routing for a French win now.
Moonlight
07-09-16, 02:59 PM
Am I the only one who will be rooting for Ronaldo to kick some French butt, that defence of France is waiting to be plucked like a dead chicken and the great magician that Ronaldo is... well......... he'll be doing the victory crowing while admiring his reflection in the Euro Cup........:haha:
Skybird
07-09-16, 03:22 PM
The match France and Germany was the strongest offence - FRA - against the strongest defence - GER - in the tournament. I think French offence will decide it. And again, they are on fire, they are playing on home soil, in front of their own audience...
Interestingly, now that it is over for Germany, many critics here in Germany have joined my chorus of - suddenly! - complaining about the Germans playing beautifully, but having no ice-cold executor, no dirty animal, to score the goals. Instead, they wanted to elegantly carry the ball into the goal.
My bet and my sympathy is with France tomorrow. Nothing against the Portugal team, they really would be ripe for a first title ever, and Ronaldo may be a fine man in private life, donating blood and raising his kid all alone and all that - but I only judge him by what he poses like on the grass, and that is an impression that makes me having a very strong bias against him.
Catfish
07-10-16, 02:21 PM
I really wanted to vote for France, but not anymore.
From the audience whistling as soon as a portugese has the ball, to the fouls, this is unsportsmanlike and not worthy of a UEFA cup.
Ronaldo is out because of a bad foul right in the first minutes.. Go Portugal!
Skybird
07-10-16, 03:34 PM
I'm with Mehmet Scholl's German comment on TV on the Ronaldogeddon event. Tough fight, but no foul, the ball was played all too obviously - simply unfortunate vectors when both men's knees collided.
I do not like Ronaldo's posing on the grass usually, but this is a nasty way of how events happened for him, I did not wish this to him.
Looks like a serious injury.
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Yeeeeaaaahhhhh!
Against all and everything! Portugal!
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I warm and hearty congratulations to your football teams EURO Cup gold Rhodes :up:
It did help I crossed my fingers and toes for Ronaldo & Co
As said on Danish TV-Portugal have never won against France since 1975(that is in a tournament)
Markus
Skybird
07-10-16, 05:20 PM
Congrats to Portugal. Obviously they did many things right - say what you want, one cannot argue with the effect. About time to finally get a first title! Lisboa will see daylight tonight...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ifuNDAw70o
Jimbuna
07-10-16, 07:21 PM
Never thought it would end this way but congratulations to the winners.
Eichhörnchen
07-10-16, 11:22 PM
Good show, Rhodes :)
Catfish
07-11-16, 01:24 AM
Well the whole play was a bit lengthy, both teams sometimes gave the impression of not knowing how to go on. But during the extra time Portugal did a lot better..
Congratulations :)
Skybird
07-11-16, 05:36 AM
However, we have to realise that this was a bad tournament.
The general quality of the matches mostly was lousy (from what I have seen, but also what I read), I agree with those critics attacking the tournament mode and saying that it is a big mistake to open the tournament from 16 to 24 teams - with plans to have 32 teams next time, and matches played in 13 countries and cities. For the UEFA, i read, fat money was earned, a win of +34% over last time, but for the sports and the game it is a disaster. With Europe having 45 countries, and 32 of these playing at Euro tournaments, any first round before the main event every 4 years almost is pointless. also, not just the best of the best play the tournament, but so to speak every Peter and Paul. This cannot help to improve general playing quality that will be seen at a tournament.
It was a boring event, and seen this way, it is logical that Portugal won: a team that played boringly and destructive, though effective, and just did the minimum of what was to be done to make it to next round. If this minimalism is the future of the game, then say good night to the game.
This Euro may be seen as a turning point, from some future's point of view. For the worse.
Positive surprises were the playing of Wales (or is the place now called Bales? :) ) , and the fans and team spirit of Iceland.
Catfish
07-11-16, 05:51 AM
... a team that played boringly and destructive, though effective, and just did the minimum of what was to be done to make it to next round. If this minimalism is the future of the game, then say good night to the game.
At least this has been the past, this is exactly like Germany has been playing for decades before Klinsmann as a trainer, and won! :O:
And with Berti Vogts making a kneefall before Kohl, plain disgusting. :shifty:
Some teams like Wales or Iceland have been a positive surprise.
Also, there were no terror attacks. I think France did a good job hosting the games. Regarding hooligans and teams, this is not France's fault.
Maybe the EU's, or Obama's :haha:
:woot::woot::woot::Kaleun_Party:
Unbelievable!:D
So, my cold report: Portugal won, fair and square.
The football that the team plays is, as Skybird put it right, is a dull one, not pretty but it is efficient.
I do not want to set a parallelism with the "Italian game style" but that model of playing did give Italy a few champion titles.
Did we have luck and also benefit of the new rules? Of course, but luck is part of the game and we are not culprits of the new rules.
Before Germany-France, I was hopping for Germany in the final, but after it I was concerned about France (strong players and also fast) and the the so call home factor...:shifty: that was so well display yesterday.:nope:
I know that I'm bias but for me, that was a fault and cost us one of our top players. And say what you can say, at least the Cry Baby tried to play to the last.
France had a few occasions to win the game, the mos flagrant in the end. We had a few (little less, yes) but also 2 shoots at the post/pole.
And in the end, in a team that shooting outside the penalty area is something that they do not do (why? I also can't understand) wins with a goal like that.
:yeah:
Looking to the future, will Portugal go far in the World Cup? Honestly in this moment, know we must but the qualification phase didn't started yet.
Will we won again the next Euro Cup? Who knows, in 4 years we will see!
Until that O Caneco É Nosso!
Catfish
07-12-16, 02:54 AM
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