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Ridley Scott seems to be doing it again first it was Prometheus 2 now its moved on too some sort of zombie alien end of the world as it seems to stand at the moment.
Has Ridley's cheese fallen off the cracker only time will tell. :hmmm:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3600337/On-set-photographs-upcoming-Prometheus-sequel-Alien-Covenant-directed-Sir-Ridley-Scott-filmed-Sydney-big-budget-sci-fi-film-starring-Michael-Fassbender-scheduled-August-2017-release.html
Onkel Neal
05-21-16, 05:00 PM
Ridley Scott, 78, told Empire Magazine last year that the film will 'connect' the strands between the Prometheus trilogy and the character of Ellen Ripley, who served as the protagonist in the Alien series
Sounds quite promising....:yep:
Skybird
05-21-16, 05:30 PM
Does it? Already Prometheus was very lame, barely covered by foul excuses.
I like many of Scott's movies, some are amongst my all time stars - but he also shot some hilariously lousy movies as well.
I only hope Blade Runner 2 will never become reality. Ruining that heritage as well I would not forgive him. Sometimes great things of the past better should be left alone instead of trying to repeat them, no matter the cost. Prometheus already was a warning.
I must admit I am worried this may turn out to be visually a good looking film but the storyline all over the place and confusing.
I agree with Skybird, please Ridley do not do Blade Runner 2.
Betonov
05-22-16, 08:43 AM
I must admit I am worried this may turn out to be visually a good looking film but the storyline all over the place and confusing.
Yep.
I'm not that affraid it wil go into Michael Bay teritory, writing some shell of a story around explosions, but it will go into artsy fartsy deep meaning of origin of life and our place in the void, M. Shaylaman level of confusing the audience and then responding by [use heavy arristocratic voice] ''you peasants do not understand my deep meaning and the art of cinematography''
Yep.
I'm not that affraid it wil go into Michael Bay teritory, writing some shell of a story around explosions, but it will go into artsy fartsy deep meaning of origin of life and our place in the void, M. Shaylaman level of confusing the audience and then responding by [use heavy arristocratic voice] ''you peasants do not understand my deep meaning and the art of cinematography''
Had to be. :)
https://memecrunch.com/meme/BFP6G/you-peasants-do-not-understand-my-deep-meaning-and-the-art-of-cinematography/image.jpg?w=450&c=1
Betonov
05-22-16, 02:41 PM
You are not a full member of the internet generation until your words or image are turned into a meme :shucks:
http://i.imgur.com/5pIZtFOl.jpg (http://imgur.com/5pIZtFO)
Katherine Waterston as 'Daniels'
EDIT: Higher resolution version.
New set picture:
https://i.imgur.com/7dPGcoO.jpg
Red October1984
06-23-16, 03:45 PM
I, for one, am excited for this.
There's also a plan in the works for a Neil Blomkamp Alien film so I've heard.
Supposed to undo Alien 3 and Rez? :hmmm:
Alien: Covenant release date has been pulled forward to May 19 (from August 4).
Also, official teaser poster:
http://i.imgur.com/yoaLnee.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IkpJxey.jpg
Two new production stills have been released.
http://i.imgur.com/s6MDhDPm.jpg (http://imgur.com/s6MDhDP)
http://i.imgur.com/yv5LtYtm.jpg (http://imgur.com/yv5LtYt)
There's also a rumour that the first trailer might be released in the following few days (it has been rated already).
GoldenRivet
12-20-16, 04:17 PM
I have to say i rather liked the idea of the story that completely altered the timeline... the one where Ripley, Hicks, Bishop and Newt aboard the Solaco successfully return to Earth, the entire events of Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection being Ripley's nightmares while in cryostasis and Ripley and Hicks are again called upon to confront the Alien.
the very best addition to the Alien franchise in my opinion was the story line of the video game Alien Isolation
Amada Ripley (daughter of Ellen Ripley) grows to a young 20 something who now works for WY in the region of space where her mother went missing 15 years earlier. She is approached by a company representative who states that a salvage crew found the Nostromo's flight data recorder jettisoned onto the nearby planet LV-426 and is invited to tag along to the Space Station Sevastopol where the flight data recorder is being held. Amanda hopes it will help bring closure in coping with her mother's loss so she tags along. Upon arrival, Sevastopol Station is in ruin and the few humans which remain there have devolved into a state of social breakdown and chaos and the stations' master computer "APOLLO" has taken almost complete control. it turns out the crew of the salvage vessel that found the flight data recorder brought an Alien back with them and all hell has broken loose. its a really great storyline and an awesome game.
Alien was a great, classic piece of Sci-Fi cinema history, Aliens added a considerable number of concepts and story arcs to the series but After Alien 3, things have begun to fall apart for the saga... i hope that they don't deliver us another stinker.
Platapus
12-20-16, 07:19 PM
http://i.imgur.com/IkpJxey.jpg
That is an awesome picture. Where do you guys find these. :yeah:
That is an awesome picture. Where do you guys find these. :yeah:
:hmmm:
The internet? :88)
In other news, here's yet another new prod. still:
http://i.imgur.com/ZKHHHxCm.jpg (http://imgur.com/ZKHHHxC)
Also, someone over at 4chan who had seen the movie during a test screening gave away the entire plot. :haha:
And another still.
http://i.imgur.com/260Vo26m.jpg (http://imgur.com/260Vo26)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0VW6sg50Pk
See what happens when you ignore the no sex in the shower sign. :haha:
Thank You Dowly. :)
I'm really skeptical about this one. Like a lot of things, like Prometheus, there's probably going to be good aspects and then that stuff that drives you crazy, like the zombie or the dumb cobra scene from Prometheus. The shower scene totally reeks of slasher flick stupid.
it also feels already like we've seen this movie before. I'm getting tired of these great directors just doing the same George Lucas thing, you know "its like poetry, it rhymes."
Meanwhile I'm actually pretty interested in seeing what happens with Bladerunner 2, though the question of Deckard being or not being a... you know should remain unknown but we already know that Ridley Scott was WRONG about it back then too even at his height.
The man is such a mixed bag. Also, apparently ACOGs and EOTechs will be used in the distant future when we're colonizing the galaxy.
I though the debate about Deckard was put to rest already?
I though the debate about Deckard was put to rest already?
Not exactly.
“The whole concept [of Deckard being a Replicant] evolved really through Gaff’s origami – Gaff wasn’t in the book, he’s an invention to thread through the story so, at the end of the film, he can leave his calling card which fundamentally says, ‘I know something about your inernal thinking that only you know – and there’s only one way I could possibly know that – and that is because I am part of the office that created you.'”
At this point, co-screenwriter Hampton Fancher, who has always staunchly denied that Deckard was anything other than human, shook his head and blurted out, “Ridley’s off, he’s totally wrong!” The audience burst out laughing, after which Fancher continued. “His idea is too complex. I think there is a metaphor in the film that works – for me anyway – and it’s about how we aspire to be something and we fall short of it; we always do. And we’re not sure if we’re being authentic. I don’t feel authentic – maybe Ridley does [Scott enthusiastically nods].
“So that question [is Deckard a Replicant] has to be an eternal question,” the writer concluded. “It doesn’t have an answer, and what I alway say about that is what Pound says: ‘Art that remains news is art in which the question ‘what does it mean’ has no correct answer.” I like asking the question [about Deckard] and I like it to be asked but I think it’s nonsense to answer it… that’s not interesting to me.”
https://darthmojo.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/scott-on-blade-runner/
You can take it both ways of course, say that one way or another Scott got his way given what he put into the film, or you can reject it and say its only suggestive not factual whats in the film, and also we should remember that the Unicorn dream wasn't in any of the original cuts but only showed up in the final cut. Without that superimposition of a new scene you can argue that Gaff's calling card was merely to say he was there and let him go.
I agree ultimately with the screenwriter. The question is interesting, but the answer isn't and for some reason Ridley Scott is one of those idiots that wants to answer the question, but we already know he's a very flawed artist. I think Deckard being a replicant guts the story. Roy sparing him loses all meaning because rather than just killing him his sparing a human in an act of mercy that the human doesn't express is him aspiring to be that greater thing, which stands in the face of his apparent thus far role as a lesser life, beneath that of humans, damned to early retirement. However if Deckard is a replicant sparing Deckard then becomes what? Doing a favour for a fellow replicant? Giving a meaningful speech to what he thought was a human but wasn't? It muddies the meaning and value of Roy's final gesture. He also clearly identifies himself as not of Deckard's tribe, ie. I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. To me the the most poignant moment in the film gets confused and loses its effect with Scott's version of things.
I think Scott is a great visual director, but a **** story teller and its on the men writing for him to make it great.
Recut version of the Alien: Covenant trailer -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYVQlvEdL6s
This one is better but it all comes down will the unanswered questions get a answer and will it be better than Prometheus? :hmmm:
Skybird
12-31-16, 09:20 AM
The debate on Deckard being a replicant or not, is done since long. He is. Scott confirmed that years ago, and what is more important: the story telling of the directo's cuts also show it quite clearly, both of them. Even the first commecial cinema release. The first movie release was not what Scott wanted, it was softened, Hollywood-ended happy-end movie with explanations from the off that both Scott and Ford found very disgusting, but were forced upon by the studio that thought the audience was too stupid to understand the film without these explanations from the off. The happy ending, taken from unused material from Shining that Kubrick shot, also was such a "coup".
The unicorn scene already was in the first of the two directos cuts. The glowing eyes of Deckard - after he got rescued by Rachel and the speak in the kitchen of his appartment - are in all movie versions.
If Scott now says Deckard's status is unclear, then he is zigzagging and stupid babbling like he did in the campaign for Prometheus not having anything to do with the Alien universe. In fact, Prometheus looks for the most parts like an almost exact remake of the first alien movie, even the sequences in wich 80% of the scenes gets called up seems to be the same. To say this has nothing to do with Alien, like he initially did, obviously was total nonsense. Not to mention the similiarities in creature design. I remember that I seriously questioned his mental health when hearing him talking about Prometheus back then. To me, its nothing more and nothign less than a remake, plain and simple.
If they tell a story in Blade Runner 2 that only works by now painting Deckard as a non-replicant again, that would be a violation of the first movie, and a reason good enough to scrap the new movie from the list and forget about it. And something tells me that in this way or in a similiar fashion they indeed ruin the Blade Runner legacy now.
Foolish old men. All too often do not know when it is time to stop, or wanting to revive their youth by repeating the old stuff from back those times.
What has happened to The Forever War...? For twenty years he has chased the copyrights for the novel to make it a movie, and he was full of words of how important it was a project for him, a love of his youth. And now? The moment he bought it finally, he fell silent about it. Have not hearded of it since a felt decade . And Scott does not become younger. And he has made some lousy movies since then. Anyone recalling Robin Hood? Brrrrrr...
The crew of the Covenant. (Click to see larger photo)
http://i.imgur.com/pBB8Prql.jpg (http://imgur.com/pBB8Prq)
The Weylan(d)-Yutani 'Aspen Beer' can is a nice touch. :yep:
^How many out of that lot get bumped off? :hmmm:
^How many out of that lot get bumped off? :hmmm:Considering the trailer already confirmed.. err.. 5 deaths? I'd say only Daniels and Walter survive to the end. :hmmm:
Considering the trailer already confirmed.. err.. 5 deaths? I'd say only Daniels and Walter survive to the end. :hmmm:
Useless Aliens just can not wipe the lot out. :shifty: :arrgh!:
Bilge_Rat
02-22-17, 02:50 PM
well you need to keep someone for the eventual sequel...
too bad Charlize Theron got bumped off in the first one.
The official poster......
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/GT182/Run.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkXgRlRao5I
http://i.imgur.com/qe1jZ2ym.jpg (http://imgur.com/qe1jZ2y)http://i.imgur.com/weBSqIhm.jpg (http://imgur.com/weBSqIh)http://i.imgur.com/t0mrAb8m.jpg (http://imgur.com/t0mrAb8)http://i.imgur.com/ITau4nxm.jpg (http://imgur.com/ITau4nx)http://i.imgur.com/We7diZMm.jpg (http://imgur.com/We7diZM)http://i.imgur.com/XxI0tqsm.jpg (http://imgur.com/XxI0tqs)http://i.imgur.com/FS3j2rim.jpg (http://imgur.com/FS3j2ri)http://i.imgur.com/qQpUSRym.jpg (http://imgur.com/qQpUSRy)
Even more moving pictures, this time the green band trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svnAD0TApb8
:salute:
Looks good, hope it holds up. :)
Screenshot of one of the two (I think) new bits on the red band trailer that was released today:
http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/152063WUT.png
I don't even want to know what that spidery thing drawing is.
(The trailer is 99% the same as the green band, so I wont post it here)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4Cmf4BuNgg
https://www.meetwalter.com/
Hope this turns out to be a great movie, trailer looks good!
New poster
http://i.imgur.com/ONxVRSI.jpg
TV spots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlOU5InhDSU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvrilPDKVLI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNgzx_IbMqw
Extended "Take me home" spot. Contains spoilers for Shaw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFRjP_J0o3U
Dowly, have you seen this article and do you think they should bring her character back in some form?
http://screenrant.com/alien-covenant-sequels-sigourney-weaver-ripley-de-aged/
@eddie I'm all for bringing Ripley back for example in Blomkamp's Alien, which may or may not get made.
But not in this Scott's current trilogy.
Ho-Ho-Ho, Happy ALIEN Day!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeMVrnYNwus
https://youtu.be/0Xbyl6Djzfk?t=3471
Now and then I have watched the Cinema here in Denmark to see if they had any plans on showing this movie, I couldn't find any cinema that was planning to do so. Today I toke another look-Some cinemas in Denmark are going to show this movie-Start date 17 May.
I myself have to wait for its release on Blue-Ray or on stream, which will be somewhere in October.
Markus
Skybird
04-26-17, 03:52 PM
@eddie I'm all for bringing Ripley back for example in Blomkamp's Alien, which may or may not get made.
But not in this Scott's current trilogy.
Did somebody just say- "trilogy"...?
[gulp]
Oh-oh.
As long as Covenant is no miraculous U-turn on the course set by Prometheus, this is no good news in my ears.
Did somebody just say- "trilogy"...?Yup, one or two movies after Covenant. No one's quite sure whether Prometheus counts.
Prometheus was supposed to be the prequel to Aliens wasn't it. So Ripley shouldn't be in it, just as she shouldn't in this one if it's a prequel continuation.
But then again..... Aliens isn't Aliens without Ripley.... young or old.
Sigourney Weaver Returns as Ripley in Alien Spoof Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4X8pwE2tok
:haha:
Future Alien Movies Could Feature De-Aged Sigourney Weaver as Ripley
http://screenrant.com/alien-covenant-sequels-sigourney-weaver-ripley-de-aged/
:hmmm:
Gargamel
04-27-17, 09:10 AM
I get the feeling dowly is looking forward to this movie...
Bilge_Rat
04-27-17, 12:29 PM
classic.
https://youtu.be/DGAHtWV7Ua8
http://www.vox.com/culture/2017/3/2/14782338/alien-covenant-trailer-horror-tropes
I get the feeling dowly is looking forward to this movie...Sure, it's a new Alien film. Not hyped, but interested.
Nippelspanner
04-27-17, 01:02 PM
Sure, it's a new Alien film. Not hyped, but interested.
More or less how I see it, though I have very negative expectations for it by now. Trailers gave me nothing, nothing at all - besides this unsympathetic "Prometheus vibe" and the impression that in May we'll get just another sub-par movie, instead of a valuable addition to the franchise.
Yes, yes, negative Nips is negative - but I fear I'll be right in the end.
Yes, yes, negative Nips is negative - but I fear I'll be right in the end.With that attitude there's no choice, but for you to dislike it. :)
Nippelspanner
04-27-17, 01:20 PM
It can still convince me of the opposite, wouldn't be the first movie.
ValoWay
04-27-17, 03:03 PM
I find that Ridley Scott actually did a great job establishing the world with Prometheus even when the plot went weird at times.. 'World-building' and atmosphere were top-notch.. Not like avatar or battleship where the entire movie looks like a cartoon or is flat out retarded from the get-go. I also liked cringeworthy independence day for its visuals, basically the only movie where an alien invasion is portrayed with a hollywood budget even when the plot is silly at best :haha:
Very interesting..... but creepy as all hell.
:confused: I couldn't get heads or tails it watching the Trailers. But maybe that was their plan all along.
:confused: I couldn't get heads or tails it watching the Trailers. But maybe that was their plan all along.The premise is the same as in A L I E N more or less. Ship is going to destination X, diverts to destination Y after picking up a signal aaaand poop hits the fan.
Saw the full "backbuster" scene earlier today. Put a smile on my face. :)
Nippelspanner
04-28-17, 01:32 PM
The premise is the same as in A L I E N more or less. Ship is going to destination X, diverts to destination Y after picking up a signal aaaand poop hits the fan.
Indeed.
Do you consider this good, bad - or are you neutral about it?
I'm neutral about that and do not believe that one has to re-invent the wheel constantly, as long as a system works and gets polished up, I'm fine with it.
Same goes for movies.
After all, most movies are remakes of very old stories, just told differently.
Most people don't even notice that.
I wonder if Ridley Scott will do anything with the Predators?
Saw the full "backbuster" scene earlier today. Put a smile on my face. :)
Oh did you now!...Booze binge with Ridley, come back to my gaff for a sneak preview.
:O:
Indeed.
Do you consider this good, bad - or are you neutral about it?
I'm neutral about that and do not believe that one has to re-invent the wheel constantly, as long as a system works and gets polished up, I'm fine with it.
Same goes for movies.
After all, most movies are remakes of very old stories, just told differently.
Most people don't even notice that.All the same to me as long as it works.
I wonder if Ridley Scott will do anything with the Predators?Why would he? :doh: He has never shown any interest in making a Predator movie. Besides, there's one already being made by Shane Black.
Premiere was yesterday in the UK, first reaction on twitter is positive though this is what an 'ALIEN fan' (admin of AvPG) said:
Rightio - I liked it, I didn't love it. It was a better experience than Prometheus (and the AvPs and Resurrection) but it wasn't pretending to be some lofty film. I loved the characters and the cast. Fassbender still rocks - as David and Walter. The film looks gorgeous as expected.
However, it's brisk as ****. This is Ridley chopping his film up like he did Prometheus. And the way the Alien's are handled...I wouldn't say it ruined the film for me but I'm surprised I didn't smash my face in with some facepalms.
Review embargo ends tomorrow (Saturday) at 8:45PM PST.
Premiere was yesterday in the UK, first reaction on twitter is positive though this is what an 'ALIEN fan' (admin of AvPG) said:
Review embargo ends tomorrow (Saturday) at 8:45PM PST.
Pay a good £30 odd plus just to see it a week before general release who are these rich sods?
I will be seeing it maybe next week or the week after.
Jimbuna
05-05-17, 07:47 AM
Pay a good £30 odd plus just to see it a week before general release who are these rich sods?
I will be seeing it maybe next week or the week after.
Surprise you haven't purchased a private box :)
Surprise you haven't purchased a private box :)
My name is not Rothschilds :O:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKRb4KtZVDE
Alien Covenant Reviews Roundup (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2017/05/07/alien-covenant-reviews-roundup/)
Nippelspanner
05-07-17, 02:50 AM
Intriguing...
Skybird
05-07-17, 05:59 AM
12 scores rated as positive, 12 scores rates as mixed, and 4 negatives. Thats leaves me not craving for spending money on it.
I wait until second-hand DVDs have become available.
Stuff reviews round up, they are just like us..bias for or against. I say make your own mind up if you want to watch it on the big screen or hang on for three months for the DVD release or sod it altogether. :)
I'm a fan of Horror and Sci-fi and I like Alien I'm not so much into the movie like others are. Have alle four aliens movie on dvd(collection)
I'm looking forward to the BR-release
Markus
Isn't anyone sick and tired of any Alien movie these days. I'm a wee bit tired of them all and don't really care if I see it or not.
Are there any Predators in it this time around? If not I definitely don't want to see it?
Are there any Predators in it this time around? If not I definitely don't want to see it?Yes, all the predators.
Nippelspanner
05-08-17, 06:24 AM
:haha:
Ridley Scott talks about the origin of the Xenomorph and about the future of the franchise. BIG spoiler at 3:27 - 3:38.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo30bZc10D0
http://i.imgur.com/UleWeWT.jpg
I was going to watch this on the big screen until i saw the price..£15! :o
No way am i going to pay that, i rather wait another three months for it to come out on DVD and buy it for under £10 and watch it more than once. Looks like my days are over going to the flicks, as for the new BladeRunner well that will be early next year for me.
Rip off Britain dam right when it comes to the flicks.
Jimbuna
05-17-17, 10:07 AM
I was going to watch this on the big screen until i saw the price..£15! :o
No way am i going to pay that, i rather wait another three months for it to come out on DVD and buy it for under £10 and watch it more than once. Looks like my days are over going to the flicks, as for the new BladeRunner well that will be early next year for me.
Rip off Britain dam right when it comes to the flicks.
Open a Club Lloyds account and you receive six cinema tickets per year. Photocopy them as often as you like, the cinema never check the small serial numbers :03:
My daughters never away from the cinema :)
Open a Club Lloyds account and you receive six cinema tickets per year. Photocopy them as often as you like, the cinema never check the small serial numbers :03:
My daughters never away from the cinema :)
Isn't that against the law? :hmmm:
Nippelspanner
05-17-17, 04:17 PM
Isn't that against the law? :hmmm:
Lol.
Checked the movie thread lately?
I must say that I enjoyed it. Michael Fassbender in great form.
I my view it paves the road for linking Prometheus with Alien.
Prometheus actually got better when seeing it a second time before seeing Covenant, but its still the worst Alien movie. I would rate Covenant better than resurrection, which was destroyed with the introduction of the white ghost.
I have been picking up on mix reaction to the film and no one has said it was good. I noticed comments from...another mess to fair and ok. :hmmm:
I have been picking up on mix reaction to the film and no one has said it was good. I noticed comments from...another mess to fair and ok. :hmmm:As far as I can tell the satisfaction/dissatisfaction comes from what you are looking for. If you are looking for pure horror and action, then this is not for you. If you are looking for a combination of the background for the alien movies and action, then this is for you.
In some respect this movie has much more depth than Alien and Aliens, which really dont spend time on the origins of the race, but solely focuses on action/horror/suspense.
This movies does not go into detail about the Engineers, but focus more on the bridge between Prometheus and Alien.
As far as I can tell the satisfaction/dissatisfaction comes from what you are looking for. If you are looking for pure horror and action, then this is not for you. If you are looking for a combination of the background for the alien movies and action, then this is for you.
In some respect this movie has much more depth than Alien and Aliens, which really dont spend time on the origins of the race, but solely focuses on action/horror/suspense.
This movies does not go into detail about the Engineers, but focus more on the bridge between Prometheus and Alien.
I will be buying it in three months time as stated cheaper for me. Any how as you say folks look for different aspects in films as i do. I look for a good story line and well acted and not over the top cgi effects.
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